wuts the best motor to turbo

[Le_Stat]

ok i wana build me a motor to turbo but idk which one i should use i wana b able to get about 450 to 500 hp while boostn high.. as of now i have a b18b1i could build and i got a b17a1 head i could find a bock for or i could do a ls/vtec so if u have any opinions lmk thanks

[bpoweredhatch]

gsr

[thepolecat]

2 stroke!

[MR.EM1]

gsr block, ls crank, b17 head

[SiRed94]

The engine is just the engine. When you get done, hopefully most of the internal parts will be replaced anyways. I prefer GSR/Type R. But if you already have a B1 it will be fine. Have it sleeved, get an aftermarket girdle, arp main cap studs, gsr windage tray, pickup, and oil pan. Then just get forged rods and pistons. And of course the VTEC head up top tightened down with some ARP head studs and you should be able to support your goal.

[bRiAnMcIvIcS]

The engine is just the engine. When you get done, hopefully most of the internal parts will be replaced anyways. I prefer GSR/Type R. But if you already have a B1 it will be fine. Have it sleeved, get an aftermarket girdle, arp main cap studs, gsr windage tray, pickup, and oil pan. Then just get forged rods and pistons. And of course the VTEC head up top tightened down with some ARP head studs and you should be able to support your goal.

Perfect.:goodjob:
Get ready to spend about $4000, on machine shop labor and parts.lol.

[Le_Stat]

is it hard to build a ls vtec cuz this is my first build

[Axix23]

k20 or better yet a k24 :) I seen stock k24 do 500+whp on race and mid 400s on pump

[punkr6]

is it hard to build a ls vtec cuz this is my first build

NO

[RedEj8]

The engine is just the engine. When you get done, hopefully most of the internal parts will be replaced anyways. I prefer GSR/Type R. But if you already have a B1 it will be fine. Have it sleeved, get an aftermarket girdle, arp main cap studs, gsr windage tray, pickup, and oil pan. Then just get forged rods and pistons. And of course the VTEC head up top tightened down with some ARP head studs and you should be able to support your goal.

Sleeve girdles dont do shit and are pointless if its sleeved. The only ones that work are the ones that some machine shops put in WITH sleeves. They are press fit in with very tight tolerances. The ones you buy and just stick in the block don't do anything because they don't fit in tight enough and still allow sleeves to move. Everything else you said is pretty much right on.

It depends on what you want to do with the motor.

I suggest you do some research(like on Honda-tech) before you attempt this.

[Le_Stat]

well i think im jus gona build my ls because i have read that they are good motors to boost.... so the darton sleeves are np good?

[SPOOLIN]

boostin high?, the goal is to make as much power as possible on the least amount of boost. Just get a Gsr engine and build it or do the research on lsvtec, there is PLENTY of threads on that and i've been running lsvtec setups for about 5 years now.

[SiRed94]

Sleeve girdles dont do shit and are pointless if its sleeved. The only ones that work are the ones that some machine shops put in WITH sleeves. They are press fit in with very tight tolerances. The ones you buy and just stick in the block don't do anything because they don't fit in tight enough and still allow sleeves to move.

Nobody said shit about a "sleeve girdle". Please read thoroughly before you try to correct someone. If you were familiar with internal engine components, specifically Hondas, and paid attention to the after-mentioned parts, you could have concluded that I was referring to the main cap girdle and not a block guard.


Everything you said is right on.

Fixed.

[Le_Stat]

so should i got ls/vtec i mean this is my first build i jus dont want to get into sumthn real hard on my first build

[Le_Stat]

so should i got ls/vtec i mean this is my first build i jus dont want to get into sumthn real hard on my first build

[kte324]

I'd just go with a gsr to start with.

[RedEj8]

Nobody said shit about a "sleeve girdle". Please read thoroughly before you try to correct someone. If you were familiar with internal engine components, specifically Hondas, and paid attention to the after-mentioned parts, you could have concluded that I was referring to the main cap girdle and not a block guard.



Fixed.

Soz guy..Obviously I did miscomprehend what you said but no need to be a douche about it. Im also quite familiar with the workings of a Honda four cylinder engine so don't jump to conclusions..I have built a few Honda motors in my short time on this planet. GSRs and Type Rs come with them girdles, B16s and LS motors do not. D16s have girdle/maincaps in one.. Thanks for being a douche and trying to prove something. Hope that works out for you better next time but...

Why does he need an aftermarket girdle? I've seen plenty of guys making OVER than hp with the stock girdle..and the motors last. Sleeves are usually the only block work you would need for that power level.


so should i got ls/vtec i mean this is my first build i jus dont want to get into sumthn real hard on my first build
Go to Honda-tech.com and click on the "search" tab. That will pretty much answer all of your questions.

If this is your first build, I don't think you need to be shooting quite so high on the HP number. If this will be the first time you've have a boosted car, I suggest you start off at low boost, say 7-8psi and see how you like it. You will be amazed at how much faster it is (and how much you spin the tires on the street) at that boost level.

Too many people get a car with a stock NA engine and then want to make 500 hp.. Build your way to up it..

[SiRed94]

Soz guy..Obviously I did miscomprehend what you said but no need to be a douche about it.

I'm not being a douche, just a friendly Import ATLien.


Im also quite familiar with the workings of a Honda four cylinder engine so don't jump to conclusions..I have built a few Honda motors in my short time on this planet. GSRs and Type Rs come with them girdles, B16s and LS motors do not. D16s have girdle/maincaps in one.. Thanks for being a douche and trying to prove something. Hope that works out for you better next time but...

Blah blah blah, and I think it worked out pretty good this time.


Why does he need an aftermarket girdle? I've seen plenty of guys making OVER than hp with the stock girdle..and the motors last. Sleeves are usually the only block work you would need for that power level.

Not completely necessary, but when I build a race engine, I really don't cut any corners. I don't mind spending a little extra cash on ensuring that my rotating assembly is going to stay where it's suppose to on 10k revs at high HP levels. But that's just me (and a lot of others).

Does saying that I was acting like a douche qualify as name-calling and give me the right to use term twat face, in reference to you?

Anyways, I'm tired. Good talk. :cheers: Later.

[Le_Stat]

shittt after reading about that 400 whp d16y8 i think i might try that setup first cuz i have a good complete d16 and that setup dont look like it would cost that much

[RedEj8]

shittt after reading about that 400 whp d16y8 i think i might try that setup first cuz i have a good complete d16 and that setup dont look like it would cost that much

Do it. Don't be sad though when the first motor you built blows up on the dyno trying to make 400whp.

When you plan for a build, make your budget for it...then double it because that's what you'll likely end up spending and you wont be surprised.


I'm not being a douche, just a friendly Import ATLien.

Does saying that I was acting like a douche qualify as name-calling and give me the right to use term twat face, in reference to you?

Anyways, I'm tired. Good talk. :cheers: Later.

Hey im fine with name calling. It is the way of teh interwebz anyway.

I didn't realize the guy was building a race motor for his first time ever building a motor.

Cheers!