Camera's?????? Does anyone know anything about them?

[KREEP]

I am trying to buy a camera.....a used one and I am trying to get into hobby photography. Can anyone tell me any good brands?
I am talking to a guy about trading my tv for a canon eos rebel xt 350d
Let me know what you think

[Scotsman]

i think noting,lol

[coolcat]

I THINK THEY TAKE PICTURES

[KREEP]

I will kill you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is serious Bidness

[JDMJAYDC2]

pm uproot or nemesis or ejallmota i think thats right either of them should be able to point you in the right direction also try pawn shops in known rich areas you can find incredible deals buckhead roswell alpharetta any of those areas should bring in decent cameras if you want something new id wait until xmas time as a 800 cameara will mostly be 600 or so

[KREEP]

Someone has to know about cameras!

[KREEP]

pm uproot or nemesis or ejallmota i think thats right either of them should be able to point you in the right direction also try pawn shops in known rich areas you can find incredible deals buckhead roswell alpharetta any of those areas should bring in decent cameras if you want something new id wait until xmas time as a 800 cameara will mostly be 600 or so
Will do ...thanks man

[dtmcnamara]

dont get a 350...you will regret it just like my mom is already...get a 40D

since the new 5D is out they will be dropping in price

[x Resilience]

Wrong section, ask SpeedMinded or Chang.

As for camera I think you should get Justin's(13bracer) Nikon

[A.P. Photography]

dont get a 350...you will regret it just like my mom is already...get a 40D

since the new 5D is out they will be dropping in price

LOL, I have seen people with 350D's out shoot people with 40D's. It is not all about the bodies. And I think you meant the 50D.

To the OP, you can pick up a used 350D for a couple hundred now so depending on what kind of TV you could be getting an even trade or really screwed. What all is coming with the camera? Lenses, grip, extra batteries, CF cards? How many actuations are on the body? The 350D is only rated to about 50k actuations.

[collins]

ok sorry for the threadjack, but ap, i have a minolta slr... is there a way to tell how many actuations ive put on it? im just curious as to how many shots ive taken in the past couple years

[KREEP]

I have a Sony wega 50" Lcd that i BOUGHT A FEW YEARS AGO FOR $ 2700
Camera comes w/ extra lens ...card and the box and everything he had when it came new. The guy is on this forum

[A.P. Photography]

ok sorry for the threadjack, but ap, i have a minolta slr... is there a way to tell how many actuations ive put on it? im just curious as to how many shots ive taken in the past couple years

Not sure if it will work but you might try shooting a jpg image and load it straight into flickr. Do not do any processing just load it right out of the camera. Make sure your Exif is on and recording and if it is, it might show how many actuations you have in the Exif display fields on Flickr. At least it worked for me on Canon :thinking:

[A.P. Photography]

I have a Sony wega 50" Lcd that i BOUGHT A FEW YEARS AGO FOR $ 2700
Camera comes w/ extra lens ...card and the box and everything he had when it came new. The guy is on this forum

What lens? If you were to sell your tv out right, what would you want to get for it?

[KREEP]

What lens? If you were to sell your tv out right, what would you want to get for it?
Somewhere between 800 obo

[A.P. Photography]

Somewhere between 800 obo

Then no. I would not do it.

[KREEP]

Then no. I would not do it.
Well I would want + cash or something else as well

[KREEP]

So what camera would you buy on a budget??????????

[A.P. Photography]

Really depends on how serious you want to get. Just remember bodies are disposable, glass lasts forever.

[KREEP]

Really depends on how serious you want to get. Just remember bodies are disposable, glass lasts forever. You were pmd 110 times Lol sorry but let me know what you think ....I am not trying to get too serious but I need a starter camera.

[A.P. Photography]

Really comes down to preference and how the camera feels in your hands. Go to DPreview and research some of the entry level DSLR's. Nikon and Canon both have great enty levels. If you are just wanting to do hobby shooting then there is no reason to go overboard on a higher end DSLR when an entry level will give you good results and still have a lot of room for you to grow. Do some research on them and then head to Wolf and get them in your hands and see which one feels better.

[Random Hero]

I know nothing, and it sucks :(

[CHADbee]

buy this...

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/pho/886333007.html

same camera i use, but i have different lens. for samples of my work with my D50 click the smiley in my sig.

[87 Turbo II]

dont get a 350...you will regret it just like my mom is already...get a 40D

since the new 5D is out they will be dropping in price
what exactly is your mom regretting? A novice photographer doesn't need more features than the 350 has.

[bandydesign]

buy this...

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/pho/886333007.html

same camera i use, but i have different lens. for samples of my work with my D50 click the smiley in my sig.

x2 That is exactly what I shoot with. No fancy lenses yet; just that. Check out my work... click my sig.

[KREEP]

Sony?
Canon?
Nikon?
What brand?

[CHADbee]

Sony?
Canon?
Nikon?
What brand?
did you not clicky the linky :goodjob:

[KREEP]

So Nikon is the way to go huh?
I found a Nikon on the best buy auction website for $400 w/ warranty.....of course they were open box but I think it was a nikon d70 s 6.1 mp slr w/ lens
The other was a sony d slr a100k w80 7.2 mp

[A.P. Photography]

Sony?
Canon?
Nikon?
What brand?
Sony makes a good enty level that is idiot proof. Downside is if you want to ever upgrade the lens then it is wayyyy to expensive.

Canon/Nikon both make great enty levle cams (see Speedminded, Chadbee and Kustoms pics) and the lenses can be upgraded with the canon costing slightly less. The entry levels will give you lots of room to grow.

[A.P. Photography]

So Nikon is the way to go huh?
I found a Nikon on the best buy auction website for $400 w/ warranty.....of course they were open box but I think it was a nikon d70 s 6.1 mp slr w/ lens
The other was a sony d slr a100k w80 7.2 mp

Stay away from anything open box from a retail store like Best Buy, Circuit City as most of the time the sensor has been touched and can have more problems than it is worth.

[KREEP]

So a d40 or a d50 would do the job? I have no prior photo experience.

[KREEP]

The canon rebel eos xt 350d that i mentioned in post #1 wouldnt be ok for me? It's 2.5 years old and I am not sure if I want something that out of date.......

[A.P. Photography]

The camera is not really out of date. It is an older camera but still very capable. I have one as a back up. It would still work but you have to watch how many actuations are on the body. As for which one, go to WOLF and HOLD the camera and see which one feels better to you. Believe it or not, one might feel more comfortable to you than the other.

[mushroom_toy]

Im diggin the shit outta the Pentax I bought. I say Pentax ftw. XD

[atlantamx3]

Sony makes a good enty level that is idiot proof. Downside is if you want to ever upgrade the lens then it is wayyyy to expensive.


As a Sony/Minolta Shooter, I will disagree.


You have TONS of great Minolta Glass to choose from and they will ALL benefit from The Sony's "Super Steady Shot" Image stabilization which many consider the best in the business.

Sigma and Tamron make decentglass for them as well that isnt too much. The big money comes with the big glass (or specialty glass- a la Wide Angle)and if you step up to the Zeiss stuff.

I have a Sony a100 and an a700.

Glass in my bag:

Minolta 50mm f1.4
Minolta 11-18mm f4.5-5.6
Sigma 24-60mm f2.8
Minolta 80-200mm f2.8 (APO G)
Minolta 100-300mm f5.6

[atlantamx3]

I would recommend you hit up KEH.com. Great prices on used equipment, but it is all inspected and cleaned, etc before being re-sold.

They UNDERrate their equipment. My a700 was rated as EX+, but it was Like New and still had all of the stuff-- basically an open box. Everything was still in wrappers, never been used.

[CHADbee]

get a nikon d50, bang for the buck it really can not be beat IMHO.

the d40 is a newer camera but wont autofocus with some nikon lens. for that reason i say go with the older d50. just because its old doesnt mean it doesnt work well :D






I would recommend you hit up KEH.com. Great prices on used equipment, but it is all inspected and cleaned, etc before being re-sold.

They UNDERrate their equipment. My a700 was rated as EX+, but it was Like New and still had all of the stuff-- basically an open box. Everything was still in wrappers, never been used.
i agree, i have friends that have even bought BGN items from them and you had to REALLY look for any imperfections.

KEH.com and craigslist is where i look for my good deals.

[13Bracer]

i got a pretty much brand new d40 for sale for 400?

[87 Turbo II]

The canon rebel eos xt 350d that i mentioned in post #1 wouldnt be ok for me? It's 2.5 years old and I am not sure if I want something that out of date.......
It'd be fine, in all honesty, ignore everyhting everyone in this thread has said. Go out, play with some until you find one that feels good in your hands and has a great menu layout, then buy it knowing ALL DSLRs CAN PRODUCE THE SAME QUALITY SHOTS (with the exception of high noise performance, in which case entry level DSLRs are all about the same anyway). It'll be the lenses that matter more than the body, so buy a comfortable body, go cheap as you can, and spend the money on good glass(often will cost you as much or more than the camera, if that's too big to swallow, utilize the versitility of a non DSLR superzoom).

[A.P. Photography]

It'd be fine, in all honesty, ignore everyhting everyone in this thread has said. Go out, play with some until you find one that feels good in your hands and has a great menu layout, then buy it knowing ALL DSLRs CAN PRODUCE THE SAME QUALITY SHOTS (with the exception of high noise performance, in which case entry level DSLRs are all about the same anyway). It'll be the lenses that matter more than the body, so buy a comfortable body, go cheap as you can, and spend the money on good glass(often will cost you as much or more than the camera, if that's too big to swallow, utilize the versitility of a non DSLR superzoom).

So ignore everything that was said in this thread but you are going to say exactly what I have already said in this thread. :thinking:

As for my Sony statement, I was going by the Sony Glass. I had no idea that you could use Minolta glass on the Alphas. I stand corrected on that aspect. :goodjob:

[KREEP]

Thank you guys for all your input.
I am trying to get into photography and want to start out with a decent camera.
I am probably going to take some classes so I can learn more.
I am going by wolf camera this afternoon to get a feel for a camera
Reps for everyone

[DinanM3atl]

dont get a 350...you will regret it just like my mom is already...get a 40D

since the new 5D is out they will be dropping in price

Ummmm what?

Your mom is regretting it? What is holding her back? I doubt it is the body.

[87 Turbo II]

So ignore everything that was said in this thread but you are going to say exactly what I have already said in this thread. :thinking:

As for my Sony statement, I was going by the Sony Glass. I had no idea that you could use Minolta glass on the Alphas. I stand corrected on that aspect. :goodjob:
Even if you already said it, I didn't read the whole thing, and I used the word ignore because too many people are like "you should buy this exact camera" and I wanted them weeded out. Does that make more sense?

[SenorJ]

i knows its gots a shutta.

[A.P. Photography]

Even if you already said it, I didn't read the whole thing, and I used the word ignore because too many people are like "you should buy this exact camera" and I wanted them weeded out. Does that make more sense?

:rolleyes:

[KREEP]

I just want a camera anybody got one for sale? LOL

[A.P. Photography]

Have you gone and put one in your hands yet?

[KREEP]

Have you gone and put one in your hands yet? Yes I held one at wolf camera today....nikon d40 and a few others
I also held a canon and a sony or two. I liked the Nikon the best

[A.P. Photography]

Then start looking for a Nikon. I know Chadbee and Kustom both shoot with the entry level Nikons so might want to talk to them a lil more about those. Hit up www.KEH.com and keep a look out on craigslist as sometimes some decent ones pop up there.

[CHADbee]

I just want a camera anybody got one for sale? LOL
13bracer has that d40 for sale. hit him up.

[KREEP]

13bracer has that d40 for sale. hit him up.
13B RACER sold his right when I called him. Oh well I will look for another

[osnap]

improper apostrophe use honestly drives me nuts. dont mind my grammar naziism though lol.

[KREEP]

:D
improper apostrophe use honestly drives me nuts. dont mind my grammar naziism though lol. It's ok that your insane. The interwebz is just more serious bidness to you than others. :D

[KREEP]

Anyone else have a good camera for sale?

[CHADbee]

Anyone else have a good camera for sale?
dude just look on craigslist, they are everywhere.

here....

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/pho/887071350.html

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/pho/887069898.html

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/pho/886333007.html


d40, d50 and d70


/thread.

[KREEP]

dude just look on craigslist, they are everywhere.

here....

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/pho/887071350.html

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/pho/887069898.html

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/pho/886333007.html


d40, d50 and d70


/thread.
Well I do thank you for your help. I have looked on CL but just was curious if anyone on IA wanted to upgrade and sell an old camera.

[A.P. Photography]

I am sure there are a couple of people on here who would want to upgrade.

If I was ready right now I would sell mine. hahaha

[collins]

damn, i forgot i posted in hear. matt, thaks for the suggestion. i'll try that and see what happens

[DinanM3atl]

guy on bf.c is selling an xt kit with lots of extras for 325. Great deal.

[KREEP]

I wanna be able to take some amazing pics and be able to adjust the photos to make some crazy shots. Will a d40 do that? Exscuse my photography retardedness I know not any of the words and terms of photography.
I am wanting to get into photography as a hobby right now but I may want to take classes so That I can maybe eventually get a job being a photographer. I love taking pictures of everything people places things and any advice would be great

[DinanM3atl]

I personally do not like the d40 because of what lens you are forced to buy and you do not have access if you want AF.

I am a Canon guy and prefer it. Why not jump into a Canon XT or XTi and start learning?

[CHADbee]

I personally do not like the d40 because of what lens you are forced to buy and you do not have access if you want AF.


thats why i bought a used d50 over a new d40 :goodjob:

[KREEP]

thats why i bought a used d50 over a new d40 :goodjob:
I can do cool things with a d40 right ? Can you not buy a better lens?

And Canon rebel eos xt is a good one?
And what is AF??????

[DinanM3atl]

XT is a good camera. A bit dated but put good glass in front of it with a good photog behind it and you will realize great photos.

AF = Auto Focus

Quick Search on Pixel Peeper - Canon XT + Canon 17-40 f/4L

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/115/291268352_783f2e985f_b.jpg

[Nemesis]

All you need to know is this:


1. ub3r l33t equipment does not make you a good photographer.

2. There are only about 3 people in this thread that are really qualified IMO to give great advice.

3. Looking into photography as a main career is just as likely as becoming Americas Next Top Model.

4. Start learning fundamentals, what everything means, and what people are using OUTSIDE OF A CAR FORUM. Not to be rude, but a car forum is the last place to really learn about good photography and the industry. Do your own foot work, its not hard, its called google.

Hope this helps you.

[CHADbee]

All you need to know is this:


1. ub3r l33t equipment does not make you a good photographer.

2. There are only about 3 people in this thread that are really qualified IMO to give great advice.

3. Looking into photography as a main career is just as likely as becoming Americas Next Top Model.

4. Start learning fundamentals, what everything means, and what people are using OUTSIDE OF A CAR FORUM. Not to be rude, but a car forum is the last place to really learn about good photography and the industry. Do your own foot work, its not hard, its called google.

Hope this helps you.
so true!!! LOL and to be honest im not one of those 3 people, i dont know jack about canon cause, well, i shoot with nikon and have never really looked into canon stuff. hell i still ask people for advice all the time, but i dont ask here ;)

just google camera reviews, there are lots of places that test camera and give you results.

car forums arent the place to learn, everybody here just says "siiiick pictures dude" the only reason i have sucked alittle less is cause i post on photography forums where i get flamed cause i suck, they tell me why i suck and then i correct my suckness. plus i put the time into learning the basics.

like nemesis said dont expect to make a living off of it, i promote my photography and try to pay for new equipment with work but to be honest i get maybe 2 $100-$200 shoots a month, if im lucky. your best bet is to go to school for something that will allow you to afford nice equipment and then read some books and just learn with experience.

[DinanM3atl]

Yah! Only listen to me!

roflmao

I would first choose a camera that fits your budget and feels good in your hands. If it feels good and is easy for you to use it is going to make it that much easier to learn in my opinion.

As said you cannot expect to just start now and make some money as a pro. It takes time and exposure. You have to be sticking with it and in my opinion you can make some side money doing it but if you want it as a career you need to do it full time and not be afraid to get try and 'force' your name and pictures out there.

I mean hell, I was happy when a site approcahed me asking me to upload my fall colors landscape :)

[A.P. Photography]

Well it has been said already. Ball is in your court to find out what fits your needs. You have already said the Nikon felt good to you, then persue that avenue. Get on some photography forums and see what kind of feedback people are giving for lenses, bodies, how they took a shot, what the settings of some of your favorite shots were. It takes time to learn the skills, I am still learning and try and find the photogs that are the tops in my area of photography and seek their advice, feedback, guidance.

And please do not think you are going to have a career in photography in a short amount of time. It takes time to build a name, show your skill, and begin lining up paying jobs. With the debut of "consumer" DSLR's the market has shrunk even more. Can it be done still? Yes. Time, prove your skill, and a TON of networking.

[KREEP]

Thank you guys....I have a budget cause I am smart with money and don't want to spend a lot on a camera when I may not even like photography. I could go out and get a 2500 camera if I wanted to but I would rather not. Just looking for a good deal...Im not a jew I swear LOL... I will go take a class, Then I am going to go talk w/ the guy who shot my wedding and follow him around like a mule on several of his jobs. Right now it will just be a hobby. Oh and the d40 doesnt have auto focus???

[KREEP]

Well it has been said already. Ball is in your court to find out what fits your needs. You have already said the Nikon felt good to you, then persue that avenue. Get on some photography forums and see what kind of feedback people are giving for lenses, bodies, how they took a shot, what the settings of some of your favorite shots were. It takes time to learn the skills, I am still learning and try and find the photogs that are the tops in my area of photography and seek their advice, feedback, guidance.

And please do not think you are going to have a career in photography in a short amount of time. It takes time to build a name, show your skill, and begin lining up paying jobs. With the debut of "consumer" DSLR's the market has shrunk even more. Can it be done still? Yes. Time, prove your skill, and a TON of networking.
I thank you above all....you have answered every question I have had. I am not looking to make a career of this any time soon if at all. I want to do this as a hobby for years before I would even trying getting into this as a career. I know I can't just jump in and do it all in one year or five. I just want to jump in and start a hobby and see where it takes me.

[DinanM3atl]

Thank you guys....I have a budget cause I am smart with money and don't want to spend a lot on a camera when I may not even like photography. I could go out and get a 2500 camera if I wanted to but I would rather not. Just looking for a good deal...Im not a jew I swear LOL... I will go take a class, Then I am going to go talk w/ the guy who shot my wedding and follow him around like a mule on several of his jobs. Right now it will just be a hobby. Oh and the d40 doesnt have auto focus???


I may have this backwards but the d40 and d40x bodies do not Auto Focus. You have to use certain Nikon mount lenses that have motors in the lens. Thus this is a smaller market and means more expensive.

A d50 for instance uses all the standard Nikon mount lenses and has an AF motor in the body as most dSLR cameras do.

[KREEP]

I may have this backwards but the d40 and d40x bodies do not Auto Focus. You have to use certain Nikon mount lenses that have motors in the lens. Thus this is a smaller market and means more expensive.

A d50 for instance uses all the standard Nikon mount lenses and has an AF motor in the body as most dSLR cameras do.
So if I wanted A nikon w/ auto focus which one would I choose?
Or is it better to not have th auto focus?

[87 Turbo II]

Ok, I'm going to give a fully unbiased summary of what I have collected over my interest of photography, and hopefully, even Nemesis won't disagree(we always get in debates over photography for some reason).

You want autofocus is is a good feature to have. And it can be turned off if you want, so drop the idea of "no autofocus capability > the option to have AF."

The Nikon D40, D40X, andD60 all lack the in-body focus motor, and this means you cannot use older Nikon lenses with the feature of autofocus. You can still focus manually, but it's much slower, and can be reletively hard to get right through the tiny D40 and other entry level viewfinders(especially if you've used a full frame film camera's viewfinder). For those aforementioned Nikons, you have to buy AF-S lenses, with an in-lens autofocus motor, rather than a body driven focus. Is this bad? Well, not if you're buying new Nikon lenses, but if you're scrounging around for old film lenses on Ebay to save money, they may not AF. If you go the Nikon route, Get an older D50, D70, or D70s with some nicer old lenses, for the budget route. If you don't mind saving the money on a brand new body, but risk more expensive lenses, go for a newer D40, D40X, or D60. If you want the best of both worlds, try and get a D80(or D90 might be out, I haven't followed up on it).

If you go the Canon route, you can use all EF mount lenses back to 1987, my cheap ass has 2 EF lenses BOTH with 1987 time stamps on the mount. Each lens cost me roughly $80. They're older, and autofocus a tad bit slower than their newer counterparts, but they perform like $350 lenses (about middle class lenses by today's standards).

Sony lets you use the Minolta line of lenses, which are nice and cheap, but Sony seems to have control issues with developing their OWN media (Memory Sticks, Blu Ray, a special hot shoe for flashes, etc. etc.) and they might keep switching things up for a little while.

Pentax cameras are really full featured, and the newest models are made in a way to accept all Pentax lenses made in the past 50 years, through adapters. Some features may not make it into translation on the body, such as obviously not having autofocus on a 30 year old lens, but the oldies can be cheaper than dirt.

Olympus cameras I'm not too knowledgeable on, so I'd rather not say something false.

I don't know if I missed any but I hope all this helps. Pretty much any brand will yield you the same results, they each have their pros and cons.

[A.P. Photography]

For this question I would say ask the Nikon guys (Nemesis, Chadbee, and Kustom). I think Chad and Kustom are both using D50. So might want to look at those. I would suggest going onto www.dpreview.com and researching the Nikon models that you are looking at and see what features they have that suits you. And yes, you want Auto focus.

[DinanM3atl]

Definitely want Auto Focus...

Lots of info here so go make a choice!

[DeutscheBAG!]

I wanna be able to take some amazing pics and be able to adjust the photos to make some crazy shots. Will a d40 do that? Exscuse my photography retardedness I know not any of the words and terms of photography.
I am wanting to get into photography as a hobby right now but I may want to take classes so That I can maybe eventually get a job being a photographer. I love taking pictures of everything people places things and any advice would be great

you can take crazy shots with just about any camera..remember this A good photograph has qualities that display the skill, art, interests, and personality of the photographer..A great photograph will tell a great story.....but a lot of people fail to realize (especially on here) that photography is more than just snapping a pic..You gotta be able to be able to get your lighting down as well also..

canon or nikon you honestly can't go wrong..Like Matt says, get a feel what u like best..its like test driving a car....just do your homework and you'll come out pretty satisfied.

WARNING: if want a job becoming a professional photographer, how deep are your pockets.? because the amount you'll spend on a car is just a fart in the wind on what u can spend on photo equipment...

but Matt(A.P) and George(Nemesis) pretty much summed it up..theyre by far the ones i would trust most on this topic..

good luck :goodjob:

[KREEP]

cool I think I am going to look into a canon rebel xt that has af........

[DinanM3atl]

There is someone on bf.c that I can get you in touch with for 320 dollars, about 5000 actuations and it is a good kit...

It is super clean.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i271/Sawbladz/IMG_0001.jpg

[KREEP]

ohhhh thats nice^

[DinanM3atl]

Contacted him for info :)

[KREEP]

get that info yet???^^^^^^
Anyone know a good photographer forum???

[87 Turbo II]

www.thephotoforum.com

[A.P. Photography]

get that info yet???^^^^^^
Anyone know a good photographer forum???
www.photography-on-the.net (http://www.photography-on-the.net)

[KREEP]

Before I make the final decision to get a canon eos rebel xt 350d what does everyone think? Will it be a good first camera for me? Yes I have held a few and like the canon and nikon. The canon is 2 years old but like new condition and comes with 2 lenses and 2 cards and some other stuff. what do you think? Do you think that is too dated of a camera? Too old? or does age matter with a camera?

Let me know what you think please because I dont' want to mak ethe wrong decision w/ my first camera purchase

[DinanM3atl]

I sent you PM with the info correct?

[A.P. Photography]

The XT is still a very capable camera. It will give you room to grow and learn about photography. Like I have said, I have one as a back up. The first publications I did were with an XT. So yes, if it feels good, you like the menu, and you feel it is a good deal then go with it. You can get that and build your lens collection if you decide to persure photography more as a serious hobby or just use what you have to take nice photos.

[DinanM3atl]

The XT is still a very capable camera. It will give you room to grow and learn about photography. Like I have said, I have one as a back up. The first publications I did were with an XT. So yes, if it feels good, you like the menu, and you feel it is a good deal then go with it. You can get that and build your lens collection if you decide to persure photography more as a serious hobby or just use what you have to take nice photos.

Exactly!