clutchless shifting

[Thighs]

anybody on here do it/know how to do it?

i can do it into all gears except 5th... for some reason my car doesnt seem to like it from 4th to 5th.

[toxxxic]

i need to learn ... my throwout bearing is going bad =( the car stalls out almost every time i push in the clutch lmao

[dabuilding]

i heard that will kill your tranny tho

[Thighs]

haha yeah, i would say thats bad. mine makes a sh*t ton of noise when i let off the gas while im in gear. at least i think thats what the noise is...

all you do is pull the trans out of gear as you let off the gas and the gearbox unloads, and gently hold a LITTLE bit of pressure on the shifter and when the rpms match it will just fall into gear. its pretty cool. you can downshift like this too but i dont usually.

[FasTech]

I did it in my dads camaro a few times! Oh and he taught me how to drive a semi truck, and once you get going you shift without the use of a clutch.

[Thighs]

^^ well arent you phucking cool!! i learned in my miata. i do it sometimes when i get lazy.

[FasTech]

^^ well arent you phucking cool!! i learned in my miata. i do it sometimes when i get lazy.



Of course I'm cool!.....lol

[Thighs]

i heard that will kill your tranny tho

if you slam it into gear and let it grind until it catches, yes.

if you do it the right way, no.

[JDMaccord]

that happened once wit my old accord by accident..... was trippy haha

g2 - gear3

[redrumracer]

anybody on here do it/know how to do it?

i can do it into all gears except 5th... for some reason my car doesnt seem to like it from 4th to 5th.
depends on how lazy i am. im able to do it in all gears. the big question is WHO CAN DO THIS DOWNSHIFTING(i can)

[Thighs]

depends on how lazy i am. im able to do it in all gears. the big question is WHO CAN DO THIS DOWNSHIFTING(i can)

i CAN but i havent perfected it.

i can do it in all gears but it likes to grind going into 5th for whatever reason, so i just clutch 5th.

[SPOOLIN]

is this in some type of race car? ...or the daily driving style.

the proper way with a race car would be a dog box with a delay box and strain gauge.

[Thighs]

is this in some type of race car? ...or the daily driving style.

the proper way with a race car would be a dog box with a delay box and strain gauge.

no, just my DD. i know all that but none of that is worth having on a mostly stock DD miata... lol

[Thighs]

is this in some type of race car? ...or the daily driving style.

the proper way with a race car would be a dog box with a delay box and strain gauge.

no, just my DD. i know all that but none of that is worth having on a mostly stock DD miata... lol

[speedminded]

Ride with droptopdrifter some time ;)

It is bad on the synchro's, any time you aren't rev matching and seamlessly changing gears it is prematurely wearing parts out.

I commuted from Gainesville to Buckhead for 5 days without a clutch in my Integra, only using the pedal to start off if i got caught at a light...that was an entertaining week! :tongue:

Even more exciting was a 8am commute from Gwinnett to the other side of Smyrna with with NO brakes...I didn't have anyone to help me bleed them after replacing a couple brake lines but had to get to work lol. :eek:

[Roadster]

haha yeah, i would say thats bad. mine makes a sh*t ton of noise when i let off the gas while im in gear. at least i think thats what the noise is...

all you do is pull the trans out of gear as you let off the gas and the gearbox unloads, and gently hold a LITTLE bit of pressure on the shifter and when the rpms match it will just fall into gear. its pretty cool. you can downshift like this too but i dont usually.

In the Miata, that's probably gear lash, and there's nothing you can do about it. It's faint when the car has full interior, but take the carpet out and it gets loud. Put a lightweight flywheel in it and it'll be almost unbearable. I replaced two transmissions, throwout and pilot bearings, and tried different tranny fluids before finding an article about the real cause of the noise. In the end I had to put a loud as hell exhaust on my previous Miata so I couldn't hear the damn tranny clattering. :D

[speedminded]

I replaced two transmissions, throwout and pilot bearings, and tried different tranny fluids before finding an article about the real cause of the noise. In the end I had to put a loud as hell exhaust on my previous Miata so I couldn't hear the damn tranny clattering. :Dlolol, wisdom comes from experience and what doesn't kill you will only make you stronger! :tongue:

[tdurr]

Ive done it. its more or less fun to say to ur friend "hey watch this" and have them look at u like ummm did i miss something lol

but my accord didnt like me going into 3rd wit out the clutch(i have no idea why tho, tranny had a fresh rebuild)

the smoothest iv ever done it was in my friends 97 cellica. dono why but it went into every gear perfect.
T-durr

[Vtak]

haha mine did the same thing it will into every gear except from 4th to 5th lol.

if u try from 4th to5th it will just stall. lol

[Thighs]

In the Miata, that's probably gear lash, and there's nothing you can do about it. It's faint when the car has full interior, but take the carpet out and it gets loud. Put a lightweight flywheel in it and it'll be almost unbearable. I replaced two transmissions, throwout and pilot bearings, and tried different tranny fluids before finding an article about the real cause of the noise. In the end I had to put a loud as hell exhaust on my previous Miata so I couldn't hear the damn tranny clattering. :D

i was thinking that too...

mines pretty loud, even with the full interior. the only time its "faint" (depends on your definition of faint i guess lol) is with the top down.

[DeeAOne]

i do it in the teg sometimes, mainly just to show someone that its possible.

downshifting though i have to rev it up in neutral to match the revs then it will drop in...i think thats how its done anyway isnt it?

[87 Turbo II]

It just sounds dumb. The clutch is there, why not use it?

[Bruce Leroy]

My clutch master is on its way out, so I'm clutchless shifting as much as possible untill it comes in on tuesday.... hopefully Ill make it

[tdurr]

lol ^^ good luck bro!!

and 87 i do it to show noobs u can shift wit out the clutch lol
T-durr

[JITB]

i wouldnt do it in a stock mazda tranny... there not the strongest pieces of equipment!

[RUFFIAN]

I do it going all the way up and back down the gears. If you match your RPM'S with your wheel speed, you will only need to use the clutch when you take off from a stop. That what we Truckers refer to as "Floating Gears".:goodjob:

[Ricer]

haha mine did the same thing it will into every gear except from 4th to 5th lol.

if u try from 4th to5th it will just stall. lol

how do you stall your engine going from 4th to 5th? ...unless you're trying this at like 5mph i'm not seein how that is possible

[slostang]

I did it in my dads camaro a few times! Oh and he taught me how to drive a semi truck, and once you get going you shift without the use of a clutch.


x2 I learned in my dads semi too.

[southside]

I say clutches were made for a reason...My opinion

[speedminded]

I say clutches were made for a reason...My opinionLet's say you're in the middle of an endurance road race, or even just going to work, and your clutch master or slave cylinder go out. Do you call AAA for a tow or continue driving?

You can start/launch a car off with no clutch, it's hard on the starter but it's more than possible...the rest of the gears are easy.

[DieselNuts]

The clutch is there for a reason. USE IT. This is one of the reasons I dont like buying a used car...

[tdurr]

lol just dont buy a car from one of us then
:crazy:
T-durr

[southside]

Let's say you're in the middle of an endurance road race, or even just going to work, and your clutch master or slave cylinder go out. Do you call AAA for a tow or continue driving?

You can start/launch a car off with no clutch, it's hard on the starter but it's more than possible...the rest of the gears are easy.Endurance race:lmfao: .Good thing about my car I dont have a slave. :chuckles:So once again clutch was made for a reason.My OPINION!

[DieselNuts]

lol just dont buy a car from one of us then
:crazy:
T-durr
I'll keep that in mind :goodjob:

[southside]

I'll keep that in mind :goodjob:x2

[Thighs]

Endurance race:lmfao: .Good thing about my car I dont have a slave. :chuckles:So once again clutch was made for a reason.My OPINION!

well what if your cable breaks?

and the clutch is there to get you rolling. if you dont have to use it between gears, why use it? its not like it hurts the car unless you suck d1ck and grind all the time

[southside]

well what if your cable breaks?

and the clutch is there to get you rolling. if you dont have to use it between gears, why use it? its not like it hurts the car unless you suck d1ck and grind all the timeIf shifting like that doesnt hurt your car why did they create a clutch again.

[87 Turbo II]

I still say it sounds dumb. How many people do you know who've had the clutch just plain stop working. I'll practice clutchless shifting WHEN that happens, until then, my clutch works fine, and you should already rev match speeds anyway, so use the clutch.

[Thighs]

If shifting like that doesnt hurt your car why did they create a clutch again.

to make it smoother to leave a stop and to make it EASIER to shift.

its not like im just slamming the car into gear people... go try it. i promise you it wont **** your car up. ill bet you money that nothing will happen if you do it correctly.

[Thighs]

I still say it sounds dumb. How many people do you know who've had the clutch just plain stop working. I'll practice clutchless shifting WHEN that happens, until then, my clutch works fine, and you should already rev match speeds anyway, so use the clutch.

actually, it happened to me in panama city on spring break. my slave completely went out and i had to keep the reservior topped off and pump the clutch to build up enough pressure to get it into first, and then floated all the gears after that.

[Kaiser]

depends on how lazy i am. im able to do it in all gears. the big question is WHO CAN DO THIS DOWNSHIFTING(i can)

I can, but haven't in a long time, so I'd probably grind the first 5-10 times I did it. My Audi's Trans is too expensive for me to do anything besides baby it at the moment, learned how to do it in a Miata actually. I probably COULD NOT do it at race-speeds though, I'd need alot of practice at speed to do it.

[speedminded]

Endurance race:lmfao: .Good thing about my car I dont have a slave. :chuckles:So once again clutch was made for a reason.My OPINION!Hence the master OR slave. I don't know too many DRIVERS that haven't been required to do it at some time or another. I've driven well over 250,000 miles all in used vehicles, only 50k of them being in a car with less than 100k miles...from that experience you tend to learn things, one being parts fail for no particular reason. Knowing how to deal with it is the key.

...and yeah, I said endurance races. There an issue with that? I could say 20-45 minute sprint races or 3 to 13 to 25 hour endurance races. Parts break or fail, it's a part of owning, driving, or racing a car. ;)

[jew_boy]

i had to drive my friend prelude with no clutch it was hard seeing that it was my first time and i was never shown how i just remember seeing it down but i made it to were we need to get so it was all good

[tdurr]

i had to drive my friend prelude with no clutch it was hard seeing that it was my first time and i was never shown how i just remember seeing it down but i made it to were we need to get so it was all good

:thinking:...wut...

but wanna kno wuts tricky, drivn a car wit out using the gas, it sucks, i had to do it at work one day.
T-durr

[EJ25RUN]

i guess if your at a drag strip and your not scared to break parts then its ok but on a road coarse its better to clutch down gas up.

[blackboi50]

Hence the master OR slave. I don't know too many DRIVERS that haven't been required to do it at some time or another. I've driven well over 250,000 miles all in used vehicles, only 50k of them being in a car with less than 100k miles...from that experience you tend to learn things, one being parts fail for no particular reason. Knowing how to deal with it is the key.

...and yeah, I said endurance races. There an issue with that? I could say 20-45 minute sprint races or 3 to 13 to 25 hour endurance races. Parts break or fail, it's a part of owning, driving, or racing a car. ;)

yea thats what i was thinking!!!! slave cylinder will be done!!!!!:D.............1

[eYezs1ck]

only in emergencies