Who caused the Wreck on 85-N?

[YoTa_BoX]

From what the news is saying a red acura Integra with primer 0n it in places and no back bumper was Racing at a very high rate of speed up 85 N.It swerved in front of an SUV which made the SUV hit the medium and flip causing the car behind it to hit the SUV and killed 3 ppl and 8 are Hospitalized. First thing that came to mind was some dumb ass on here sooooooooo.... who did it?

[stillaneon]

Like they would admit even if it was them...

[YoTa_BoX]

Well maybe some one knows the car hell...IDK

[redrumracer]

not i

[blacknightteg]

well thats a ****ing great thing to happen to us

[stillaneon]

And everyone said the Southside sucks

[Deke]

This guy in a 240 was disrespectin me. I had to show that punk-ass what was up. I was kickin his ass until my diy lip came loose and got dragged under my whip causing me to swerve into the lane with the dumbass SUV that doesn't know how to use it's brakes.


Oh and btw, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR4PGt9oOto

[puregroove]

What the freakin' heck, man!!!!!!!!!! I just got home after the backup... :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: 2+ freakin' hours! Weaving in and out of highway traffic, racing, is not worth...what has happened.

Here's the link to the story:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=113778

[Deke]

^Yeah, I probably shouldn't be joking about it like that. It's a sad situation, but given the fact that they have a description of the vehicle, it seems like a decent likelihood that they'll catch the douche bag.

[iam99x]

****ing ricers...making the good look bad.

[Dracc]

i think i've seen a car like that on buford hwy.. but it was a mexican dude... older model like a 90's ish model i think

[TIGERJC]

^Yeah, I probably shouldn't be joking about it like that. It's a sad situation, but given the fact that they have a description of the vehicle, it seems like a decent likelihood that they'll catch the douche bag.
I highly doubt that, I have seen a lot of hondas/acuras that match that description

[Kyle]

i think i've seen a car like that on buford hwy.. but it was a mexican dude... older model like a 90's ish model i think
Thanks for that amazing piece of incite. That describes so many cars on buford highway, but I'm sure you've seen the guy. :rolleyes:

[yerrow]

2 hours and 45 minutes

[81911SC]

i think i've seen a car like that on buford hwy.. but it was a mexican dude... older model like a 90's ish model i think
I've seen it too. It's the largely massed produced Acura Integra. Red. Since most of them are pristine, I think it was the one I saw too.

[Dracc]

yes... its the only one missing a bumper in GA... they will find him shortly.... with in a matter of days... hmmm... did that kid who got arrested at BP for drifting his civic get another ride perhaps?

[Dracc]

I highly doubt that, I have seen a lot of hondas/acuras that match that description


the description they gave put half a million integras on the most wanted list... i mean.. he's missing a rear bumper.. who's to say he doesnt have a bumper on it by now... clearly no tag... no description of the driver.. just a red/ primed teg with no rear bumper... everyone on here has primed a car before.. acouple hours in the garage.. and the whole car can be primed.. then what.. COLD CASE

[THEONE]

dammit, dumb assed kids or wannabes in imports givin true enthusiasts a bad name. this is not a joking matter and all jokes should stop. so some ******* drove like a jerk off and killed 3 people..hahahha now thats out of the way. jack asses. stop street racing or testing on the street if you wanna run go to commerce or build a race car and run on a circle track. it is not right to even play or joke about this issue.
it may have been some poor bastard in a beat up old teg tryin to catch is wife cheatin or tryin get home from work on time. just because it was an import does not mean it was an import atlanta memeber.....

[ahmonrah]

i heard 'bout this on my way to work and was like..."NOT GOOOOOOD"

bodydropped: what's happenin!!!

[THEONE]

i heard 'bout this on my way to work and was like..."NOT GOOOOOOD"

bodydropped: what's happenin!!!

not alot man, tried pming you clean out your box...

[ahmonrah]

oops!!! ~scrambles to user cp~
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KLEEN!!

[quickdodge®]

And everyone said the Southside sucks

It does. Later, QD.

[Got Milk?]

After reading this story, kinda makes me think "why do i street race?"

[BKgen®]

After reading this story, kinda makes me think "why do i street race?"

After reading that post, kinda makes me think you should've kept your old username.... dumbwhitekid.

[Doppelgänger]

So wait, people in the SUV died? BUT I THOUGHT BECAUSE SUV'S WERE SO BIG, THEY'RE AS SAFE AS A TANK!! I mean, ask any SUV driving idiot why they have it.. 9/10 will say "because it's safe". Bullsh!t and this proves it. Maybe if they had bought a normal CAR (or maybe even a wagon if they ACTUALLY use all that space (1/1000 actually do), then maybe they would have been better off. Somehow or another the whitetrash/mexican driving the Integra found the ONE suv that had it's seats filled. Even then, i bet the driver of the SUV over-reacted, completely forgetting that farting the wrong way in it would cause a rollover. If the Integra actually clipped the SUV at 100+, it wouldn't have driven away.....

[Doppelgänger]

After reading that post, kinda makes me think you should've kept your old username.... dumbwhitetrash.

Fixed.

[soul]

dammit, dumb assed kids or wannabes in imports givin true enthusiasts a bad name. this is not a joking matter and all jokes should stop. so some ******* drove like a jerk off and killed 3 people..hahahha now thats out of the way. jack asses. stop street racing or testing on the street if you wanna run go to commerce or build a race car and run on a circle track. it is not right to even play or joke about this issue.
it may have been some poor bastard in a beat up old teg tryin to catch is wife cheatin or tryin get home from work on time. just because it was an import does not mean it was an import atlanta memeber.....
if you notice this difference in this story and many other like its compared to our "crew" of street racers on this site, in these wrecks is some POS car with a pos driver that thanks its nice or has no clue and shouldnt be on the rode with or without that car. Never once have a seen or read on one of these stories that a (insert car- supra,evo,sti,cobra,etc....) just something to think about. but either way i dont condone street racing no matter the conditions......







anyone down for some mexicon:ninja:

[ATK_Designs]

Where're IA detectives?

That's fvcking crazy. Who in their right mind would street race, in the rain. :2up:

[soul]

Where're IA detectives?

That's fvcking crazy. Who in their right mind would street race, in the rain. :2up:
teh fwd super traction mode in da rain

[Ran]

Red Integra, no rear bumper, primer...

IB4 "Illegal Immigrants" Bashing

[BKgen®]

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/gwinnett/stories/2008/03/31/wreck_0401.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

[HalfBaked]

It was probably the game guy who drove the blue 350z...

[blaknoize]

Ah, it happens... thats why yall GA insurance is so high (sike) But yea, thats over-reaction on the SUV drivers part, not the POS integra part. Yea they cut them off but still...

[DieselNuts]

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/gwinnett/stories/2008/03/31/wreck_0401.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab
well thats good. Hopefully that fuker will pay. It was probably a bogus business card though

[Jason..]

Most of the morons moved from the southside to the northside.Im sad for the loss though.Really breaks my heart to see street racers get hurt or hurt anyone it really really bothers me.




And everyone said the Southside sucks

[Nitro]

not alot man, tried pming you clean out your box...


yo wuddup son?

[man]

So wait, people in the SUV died? BUT I THOUGHT BECAUSE SUV'S WERE SO BIG, THEY'RE AS SAFE AS A TANK!! I mean, ask any SUV driving idiot why they have it.. 9/10 will say "because it's safe". Bullsh!t and this proves it. Maybe if they had bought a normal CAR (or maybe even a wagon if they ACTUALLY use all that space (1/1000 actually do), then maybe they would have been better off. Somehow or another the whitetrash/mexican driving the Integra found the ONE suv that had it's seats filled. Even then, i bet the driver of the SUV over-reacted, completely forgetting that farting the wrong way in it would cause a rollover. If the Integra actually clipped the SUV at 100+, it wouldn't have driven away.....

There were 7 people in the SUV, good luck fitting that in an Accord.

[ZeDFuNk]

So.. this SUV hit the MEDIUM huh..?

[mike's02ls1]

Since they found the car they should know it was a RSX not a integra...

[BanginJimmy]

Really breaks my heart to see street racers get hurt.


I laugh when a street racer kills himself, he deserved it anyways. I feel sorry for the people they kill though.

[jew_boy]

that dumbass is goin to get :idb:by bubba for awhile

[x_doug_x]

Since they found the car they should know it was a RSX not a integra...

how do you know?

[IDCoconut]

how do you know?

there was an 11alive link somewhere that showed the red RSX


EDIT: found the link

http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=113792

[x_doug_x]

thanks, i just got done reading other thread.

[jew_boy]

Since they found the car they should know it was a RSX not a integra...

they think they are in japan thats why the called it a teg :D

[KREEP]

this is by far the sadest thing I have heard about in a while. Prayers go out to the family members

[IronEagle]

This guy who left the RSX is farked. Any hotel/inn like that has security cameras and for him to walk in there and talk to the desk clerk is a huge break for those looking for him.

[_Christian_]

I'm glad they found the car. If the people in the excursion had worn their seatbelts they might still be alive. Too many dumbasses think their hondas are ****ing racecars.

[quickdodge®]

I laugh when a street racer kills himself, he deserved it anyways. I feel sorry for the people they kill though.

You and me both. I could read an OBIT full of "street racer" deaths and laugh 10 times harder than if I were reading Mad Magazine. Real life entertainment is much better than fiction. Later, QD.

[COGCaviZ24]

did anyone hear neal borts' rant about this wreck? i wasn't listening by choice. he was telling his listeners to look at these 'tuners' and see if there is a canister on the passenger windshield brace. if there is one to avoid that 'idiot' 'cause in that canister is nitrous oxide!!! OH EM GEE!! ignorance!!

[1SICKLEX]

I want to let yall know Gwinnett is going to LOCK THE HELL DOWN any Damn Honda/Acura ricers.....this incident has made yourselves the Gwinnett cop target for 2008

[YoTa_BoX]

I hope who ever the mother ****** is Has to live at least 10 years Getting ****ing ass rapped in the Pen By some Big ass Donkey **** Black guy. And i Hope that ****ing **** Brick Thinks about the Family's He has Destroyed Just so he can get his 5 mins of a rush.. After the 10 years I hope His dumb ass gets ****ing Shanked out in the yard In front of every one and No one will come to help him...even the Guards will just watch Him Bleed to ****ing death as he Feels the Blood poor out of his Body Knowing he is going to ****ing Die....... Oh and...


Have a nice Day :)

[ATK_Designs]

wow, that's sad. At least he turned himself in.

Sad day indeed. I wish it was just an april fool.

[Jimmy B]

wow, looks like there was an IA sticker on the rear window.. i might be wrong, but thats waht it looked liek to me!

[Ruiner]

The apparent driver has turned himself in for questioning...

http://www.11alive.com/video/player.aspx?aid=91540&sid=113835&bw=&cid=3

[Ruiner]

20 year old Cody Rhoden (sp?) ... 'row-den' is how it sounds, so spelling is up in the air. Anyone find his myspace page?

[Ruiner]

Cody's attorney said, "...my client was driving and was hit on the side of his vehicle...spun out of control...and basically was unaware that such a collision had occurred and what happened after..."

Yeah, that boy is going to FRY. His lawyer's statement sucks ass. Any GOOD lawyer would have NEVER given an impromptu video statement like that about their client. Holy ****...

With the number of witnesses that will come out and attest to his high rate of speed, he is ****ed.

[Ruiner]

Actually, this link will launch WMP:

http://wm.wxia.gannett.edgestreams.net/news/rowsonfatalaxie7p040108.wmv

[God]

he didnt turn himself in today so he couldnt get busted for dui

[God]

and also, i bet 100$ its a person from on here

[Leadfoot_mf]

he is ****ed yep you dont get hit and leave the area unless you have something to hide. what about dot cameras along 85 they pick up anything?

[Allstar3.8T]

and also, i bet 100$ its a person from on here
yup, we were all thinkin it, but no one will claim it. The car was completely smashed on the rt side, even wheels multiple bends...he hit something HARD.

[Leadfoot_mf]

http://www.gwinnettcountysheriff.com/asp/imageone_stage2.asp?target=%202008058342

[1gDSM]

in all actuality sliz is a great lawyer, i can vouch for that.

[Maniac1]

This sh!t went down 6 mins away from where I live and I just found out about it yesterday. LOL

[Ruiner]

in all actuality sliz is a great lawyer, i can vouch for that.

Both my father (who is a lawyer) and I laughed at his statement that he gave in front of 11alive news cams. It was ridiculous.

[Got Milk?]

NO NOT THE POOR RSX. THE RSX LOOKS FAMILIAR.

[Got Milk?]

Why they keep saying "Three people were killed and five were injured in an accident on I-85 in Gwinnett County."? The baby doesnt count as people?

[incawarrior]

****.. I was coming down south from charlotte when I seen the parking lot on 1-85 Northbound.

Crazy stuff ..

[0p7!mu5]

well i finally saw the report on the news yesterday and now im pissed the girl in the wreck (Whitney Randle) I went to school with and i think seeing that was tough. I've lost quite a few friends within the past 3 years to stupid car accidents and this is just too much. two on 85 had their cars burst into flames, my longtime buddy Ade last year and now this...i hope they find and nail this ****** into a wall. watching that made me not even want to drive anymore. everytime i watch a news report or hear something like that i just remember my friends and laughing and **** in class and realizing that we may not always have been close but i wont get another chance to chill with them eigther.

[Ruiner]

well i finally saw the report on the news yesterday and now im pissed the girl in the wreck (Whitney Randle) I went to school with and i think seeing that was tough. I've lost quite a few friends within the past 3 years to stupid car accidents and this is just too much. two on 85 had their cars burst into flames, my longtime buddy Ade last year and now this...i hope they find and nail this ****** into a wall. watching that made me not even want to drive anymore. everytime i watch a news report or hear something like that i just remember my friends and laughing and **** in class and realizing that we may not always have been close but i wont get another chance to chill with them eigther.

He turned himself in last night for questioning. He was arrested. His name is Cody Rhoden, age 20. He looks like he belongs in jail.

I guess this is Whitney's Myspace?

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=116487957

[0p7!mu5]

thank god i hadnt had much time to catch up on the news, no cable and havent been home i was at the laundry mat when i saw it but do you have a link?

[Ruiner]

thank god i hadnt had much time to catch up on the news, no cable and havent been home i was at the laundry mat when i saw it but do you have a link?

http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=113835

[0p7!mu5]

like i said i don't know for sure if home gurl was killed because i keep hearing diffrent things on it but i know she was involved i just havent had any luck finding a detail story on this

[B18c1Turboed]

Holy **** look at his charges!!
http://www.gwinnettcountysheriff.com/asp/charges.asp?target=%202008058342

[0p7!mu5]

i hope that fat **** gets it whitney was a really decent and down to earth person and i think that dude doesnt even look remotely sorry

[JITB]

the only ones that are the worst are the hit and run in his case. vehicular homicide isnt really as sever as murder, which sucks.. bad. If he didnt runhe could have gotten away with a few months in jail, or a year or so, and no license for awhile. but with all that hit and run charges hes done for awhile. A lady caused a accident that killed 2 people one my friend and one a pedestrian, she got 30days in jail and a 1 year license suspension...for 2 counts of vehicular homicide.

[Ruiner]

i hope that fat **** gets it whitney was a really decent and down to earth person and i think that dude doesnt even look remotely sorry

Her and her new son were killed...as well as her 14yr old brother. The dad is hanging on by a thread right now.

[0p7!mu5]

yeah i mean readin that report was hard enough. Especially since like '05 three of my friends have passed away. I think a few of you know one of them and like I said this **** to me is pretty hard to hear.

[0p7!mu5]

Holy **** look at his charges!!
http://www.gwinnettcountysheriff.com/asp/charges.asp?target=%202008058342
:eek:how the hell?! i thought only four people died... thats like taking out a soccer team!:thinking: They might try to give him a two for one or try to combine them. i hope he gets every single one of them

[Ruiner]

:eek:how the hell?! i thought only four people died... thats like taking out a soccer team!:thinking: They might try to give him a two for one or try to combine them. i hope he gets every single one of them

Yeah, those are only for the warrants. His charges aren't THAT many in number...

4 vehicular homicide...
1 reckless with injury
4 hit-n-run

Sometime like that...

[ISAtlanta300]

So did he actually hit or 'clip' the SUV to receive those hit and run charges?

If not, who was the other person that supposedly 'hit' him, and caused him to spin out?

[Ruiner]

So did he actually hit or 'clip' the SUV to receive those hit and run charges?

If not, who was the other person that supposedly 'hit' him, and caused him to spin out?

Yeah, they touched (or he touched someone). His attorney is claiming that HE was "hit" by someone, but not specific as to who.

[1SICKLEX]

Lets see how this pans out but its not looking good, especially with eye witness accounts.

[quickdodge®]

According to his parents, he didn't flee the scene. He got off at the next available exit to go get help. Where did he go? I know it couldn't have taken him a few days to find help. Later, QD.

[Leadfoot_mf]

i just hope the dot cameras caught the whole thing.

[LongLiveH2b]

wasnt it a RSX??

[DeeAOne]

yeah he just turned himself in.

[01CDMLUDER]

i went to kindergarden through high school with cody. he's actually a good guy but it doesn't look good for him at all! i feel really bad for the people that lost their lifes! but im not jumping to conclusions b/c i wasnt there. prayers go out to the family's.

[chunky]

I just wonder. How does a limo get FLIPPED? I don't care how fast that RSX was going when it contacted the limo, the limo didn't flip until the limo driver did something boneheaded.

Also, I wonder who in the limo was wearing their seatbelt and if the baby was properly secured in a car seat. Since it's a limo, chances are slim that anyone was wearing a seatbelt or that a carseat was in use.

Doesn't make the kid any less of a moron for fleeing, but I wouldn't hold him as responsible for the deaths since such accidents become significantly more survivable when seatbelts are in use.

My condolences to all involved.

[SicStang03]

What a moron.. Who goes 100+ and tries to pass someone on a shoulder.. WOW, funny why would he say someone hit hit and he didn't know there was another accident after? He just drove off after being drilled by someone else? IDIOT!! I hope the DOT cameras caught something

[quickdodge®]

I just wonder. How does a limo get FLIPPED? I don't care how fast that RSX was going when it contacted the limo, the limo didn't flip until the limo driver did something boneheaded.

Also, I wonder who in the limo was wearing their seatbelt and if the baby was properly secured in a car seat. Since it's a limo, chances are slim that anyone was wearing a seatbelt or that a carseat was in use.

Doesn't make the kid any less of a moron for fleeing, but I wouldn't hold him as responsible for the deaths since such accidents become significantly more survivable when seatbelts are in use.

My condolences to all involved.

You're a complete dumbass. Later, QD.

[Got Milk?]

I hope he burns in hell for killing those people.

[BKgen®]

i hope that white trash fat f*ck gets his sh*t pushed in by a big black guy name butch for being so damn careless. This kind of stuff is what gives us car guys a bad name.

[quickdodge®]

i hope that white trash fat f*ck gets his sh*t pushed in by a big black guy name butch for being so damn careless.

If the person's name is Butch, chances are, he's a she. Later, QD.

[BKgen®]

If the person's name is Butch, chances are, he's a she. Later, QD.


even better.

[chunky]

You're a complete dumbass. Later, QD.

You completely missed the point.

[quickdodge®]

You completely missed the point.

I'm a pretty smart guy and think of myself as tough to have the wool pulled over my eyes. But there was no word play in your post. You pretty much stated what I read. If there was an alternate point to your post, you may want to rephrase it because, from what I read, my post to you stands. Later, QD.

[Jblizzard]

when I see that car i keep thinking its the red RSX with vuongs garage sticker on the backseat side windows


though its probably not

i hope he gets every bit of the charges.

[rsxtype-svi]

well hey. at least ALL rsx drivers arent like that.....

[chunky]

I'm a pretty smart guy and think of myself as tough to have the wool pulled over my eyes. But there was no word play in your post. You pretty much stated what I read. If there was an alternate point to your post, you may want to rephrase it because, from what I read, my post to you stands. Later, QD.

You just have the classic emotional response to this, just like everyone else.

My response is to think about how to minimize the chances of something like this happening again. Is throwing this kid in jail for life going to save anymore lives? Probably not. People do stupid things all the time no matter what kind of consequences you impress upon them. I don't think this kid went out looking to kill anyone. It's just unfortunate that his stupid actions intertwined with a glaring lapse in safety precaution of another family.

You're never going to stop people from being stupid. Never. However, you can encourage people to think about safety. This accident was probably 100% survivable by all if seat belts had been worn. The two people in the Corolla that got SMASHED by the limo survived.

So the statement I made, the purpose of which you missed, is that it's really stupid that no one thinks to put on a seat belt in a limo. I for one, HATE going for limo rides for that exact reason. Riding to my ex g/f's prom, as soon as the limo got on the interstate or started moving at any decent speed, I started sweating bullets. As a kid, I always thought it was stupid that school buses didn't have seat belts. Even now, I think it's a travesty that people in cars get ticketed for not wearing seat belts or for transporting a child without a safety seat, but it's a. ok if you're in a limo. What my comment was aimed to do is to get people to think twice about getting into ANY road going vehicle w/o a seat belt. You never know if the limo driver is going to fall asleep, if you're going to get rear ended, who knows what.

I never absolved this kid of the blame for his actions. He caused an accident and should have to face the consequences for just that. The accident. He probably wasn't looking to kill anyone. The deaths were just an unfortunate result of multiple factors, not just the impact with the RSX.

[quickdodge®]

You just have the classic emotional response to this, just like everyone else.

I don't have any "classical" anything for this. I have my own feelings about anything. Everyone on IA knows that I can't stand an idiot driver and wish death upon all people that drive like this guy. This was just an accident waiting to happen with his erratic driving. He wasn't being forced to drive this way. It was intentional. It wasn't like he was forced to accidentally cut the limo off. It was idiotic driving style that did it. In the case of the non-survivors and their survival chances, you used the one word that we will never know as a fact: "probably." There have been plenty of seat belt related deaths as well as no seat belts. Of course you used an ironic choice of word set. How can something be 100% probable? Isn't that a form of an oxymoron?

But back to the subject. He should face charges way more serious than just causing an accident. I think he should face murder (vehicular homicide) myself. Among reckless driving, speeding, causing an accident, fleeing the scene, hit and run and others. Why murder? Two things come to mind. Like I said before, he knew he was driving the way he was. He wasn't driving like that on accident. He was trying to "hotdog" on the freeway. The other reason? He left the scene. He says he went to go get help. It took him two days to find help? He only gave up because he was caught.

I agree with the point of wearing a seat belt wholeheartedly though. Later, QD.

[chunky]

I don't have any "classical" anything for this. I have my own feelings about anything. Everyone on IA knows that I can't stand an idiot driver and wish death upon all people that drive like this guy. This was just an accident waiting to happen with his erratic driving. He wasn't being forced to drive this way. It was intentional. It wasn't like he was forced to accidentally cut the limo off. It was idiotic driving style that did it. In the case of the non-survivors and their survival chances, you used the one word that we will never know as a fact: "probably." There have been plenty of seat belt related deaths as well as no seat belts. Of course you used an ironic choice of word set. How can something be 100% probable? Isn't that a form of an oxymoron?

But back to the subject. He should face charges way more serious than just causing an accident. I think he should face murder (vehicular homicide) myself. Among reckless driving, speeding, causing an accident, fleeing the scene, hit and run and others. Why murder? Two things come to mind. Like I said before, he knew he was driving the way he was. He wasn't driving like that on accident. He was trying to "hotdog" on the freeway. The other reason? He left the scene. He says he went to go get help. It took him two days to find help? He only gave up because he was caught.

I agree with the point of wearing a seat belt wholeheartedly though. Later, QD.

My opinion is that the kid should lose his right to drive, not his right to live. You are trying to implicate that he intentionally killed these people. You don't know what the circumstances were. Would it sway your opinion any if evidence surfaced to show that he was fully applying the brakes, but pulled into the emergency lane upon realizing that he had no chance of avoiding a direct rear end hit on the limo? At this point, there's no possible way to know what exactly what his intent was. He was quite possibly breaking the law by exceeding the speed limit. The maximum punishment for that is loss of driving privileges, not death.

As for your citation of an "oxymoron", I'm sure you are smart enough to know what I was saying. Dissecting semantics when the meaning is clear is a fool's game.

I think it's 100% probable that he got lit at the braves game, caused this accident while drunk, then hid from the cops long enough to sober up so he wouldn't get the DUI on top of everything else.

[Doppelgänger]

Hey Raz, it wasn't a Limo in the traditional sense. It was a more or less a shuttle from the airport in a Expedition, hence the easy rollover. Either way, the kid severely ****ed up driving like an idiot. I am also very suspicous that no one was wearing their seatbelts. I was pondering that from the get go. The car wasn't damages that badly considering. Also, going by the account that one of the survivors couldn't find other family members when the motion stopped indicates that they left the car during the accident.

Here is another idea for you people. Has anyone thought of the idea that he was possibly DRUNK? Seems like a pretty good reason to hide for a day...let the alcohol out of your system. Get daddy to move the car so he could get home and detox.

I do believe he should pay for what he did with harsh punishment. I was thinking more on the lines of Vehicular Manslaughter rather then homicide. But i guess the reckless driving and leaving the scene adds to the severity of the situation thus elevating the charges to homicide. Maybe if said dumbass would have stopped right then and there the outcome might have been different (assuming he was sober).

[quickdodge®]

You are trying to implicate that he intentionally killed these people.

In a sense he did. He drove like this knowingly and willingly. He knew the dangers of his driving habit.


At this point, there's no possible way to know what exactly what his intent was.

I'm sure the result of his stupidity wasn't what he intended.


The maximum punishment for that is loss of driving privileges, not death.

But the end result of his idiocy should be death, IMO.


As for your citation of an "oxymoron", I'm sure you are smart enough to know what I was saying. Dissecting semantics when the meaning is clear is a fool's game.

Call me what you want. I'm pretty sure that the popular consensus of IA will disagree with you.


I think it's 100% probable that he got lit at the braves game, caused this accident while drunk, then hid from the cops long enough to sober up so he wouldn't get the DUI on top of everything else.

So even in your theory, he pulled a hit and run that left 4 people dead. Unless there was another underlying meaning to this and I'm just not seeing the big picture.

YOU aren't going to sway my thoughts on this. IF he manages to get out of this close to unscathed, he'll be lucky. If it is proven that he wasn't the cause, then so be it. Until then, he should be dead and not the others. You say he shouldn't be dead because of his "excessive speed." I say those four people shouldn't be dead because they weren't wearing a seat belt. The fine for that is about $25. Each violation. Later, QD.

[01CDMLUDER]

i dont beleive that he should charged with killing anyone that wasn't wearing their seatbelt! we don't even know for sure that he caused the wreck because no one actually witnessed it. they saw a loud import driving "fast" on 85 and automatically put him to blame. i feel real bad for the family but you should always wear your seatbelts!

[chunky]

In a sense he did. He drove like this knowingly and willingly. He knew the dangers of his driving habit.

I'm sure the result of his stupidity wasn't what he intended.

But the end result of his idiocy should be death, IMO.

Call me what you want. I'm pretty sure that the popular consensus of IA will disagree with you.

So even in your theory, he pulled a hit and run that left 4 people dead. Unless there was another underlying meaning to this and I'm just not seeing the big picture.

YOU aren't going to sway my thoughts on this. IF he manages to get out of this close to unscathed, he'll be lucky. If it is proven that he wasn't the cause, then so be it. Until then, he should be dead and not the others. You say he shouldn't be dead because of his "excessive speed." I say those four people shouldn't be dead because they weren't wearing a seat belt. The fine for that is about $25. Each violation. Later, QD.

I disagree on the statement of "fine" for not wearing your seat belt. The maximum "fine" for that is your life.

If it is as mentioned previously, the SUV wasn't a limo, but simply a shuttle, then it makes even less sense to me why these people weren't wearing seatbelts.

No matter how stupid he was, he should not be charged as if he intended to kill these people unless some evidence surfaces to indicate that he had a clear motive to kill.

And LMFAO @ popular consensus of IA.

[B18c1Turboed]

Why wasnt the baby in a car seat?

[quickdodge®]

I disagree on the statement of "fine" for not wearing your seat belt. The maximum "fine" for that is your life.

This is where you should insert the following:

"Originally Posted by chunky
As for your citation of an "oxymoron", I'm sure you are smart enough to know what I was saying. Dissecting semantics when the meaning is clear is a fool's game."


If it is as mentioned previously, the SUV wasn't a limo, but simply a shuttle, then it makes even less sense to me why these people weren't wearing seatbelts.

I'm not really sure why this is a kept up conversation piece. The facts are, they weren't.


No matter how stupid he was, he should not be charged as if he intended to kill these people unless some evidence surfaces to indicate that he had a clear motive to kill.

That's why I said he won't get charged with what he should be charged with. He should at least be charged with vehicular manslaughter. For some reason, you're not understanding that he knew what he was doing. he knew he was driving like an idiot. He knew what could happen if he fucced up. He was intentionally driving like that anyway. Knowing the potential consequences. You must know this fucc or advocate driving like this to keep on defending this shiit for brains.


And LMFAO @ popular consensus of IA.

All you want. We both know I'm no fool. We both know you're a nobody on here and it's "100% probable" that you're a nobody pretty much anywhere else. Later, QD.

[stillaneon]

The only thing they have on him is hit and run.

I agree, he was driving recklessly and it sucks but it happens. Changing lanes without a blinker is a reckless behavior but 45% or more of the people in Atlanta do it.

The fact that the driver of the SUV couldn't control the vehicle is the drivers fault. not the kid in the Acura (or whatever he was driving).

He may have been drunk, but there is no way to prove it, and the witness can say all day that he was to blame but, like the forums, without pics, it's bull****.

And most shuttles dont require you to wear seatbelts (although they should) so maybe the finger should be pointed towards the shuttle company or the dumbass people in the shuttle for not buckling up. If I die because I wasnt wearing my seatbelt, its not someone else fault. Its mine.

And the Expedition ran into the back of the Acura if I'm not mistaken. That would have been a ticket for the expedition driver if they adnt have died. Driving too fast for conditions or following too closely

[quickdodge®]

The fact that the driver of the SUV couldn't control the vehicle is the drivers fault. not the kid in the Acura (or whatever he was driving).

Lolol. Where is the logic in that? Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

Never mind. This is getting more humorous by the post. Logic is not the word for some of these responses. Later, QD.

[stillaneon]

Lolol. Where is the logic in that? Later, QD.

Sorry. What I meant was, If you were driving the SUV and you lost control, that's not my fault as the driver of the RSX. Although I may have weaved in front of you, the fact that you over reacted and lost control of your own vehicle is not something I should be punished for. Any sort of Driving class teaches you how to react in any situation (and to wear your seatbelts). The SUV driver lost control of his car because he didnt think logically in time to react, so he ended up over reacting emotionally and it got him killed.

i.e. If I am driving down a 2 ln rd (one going each direction) and I see a car coming towards me in my lane. The emotional thing would be to go into his lane as to not hit anything. but a class is going to tell you to go to the right. Even if you hit a pole or mailbox, a xx mile per hour accident is better than twice that (which is what would happen if you were to hit the other car head on).

You would not go into his ln because he may realize whats going on and swerve back and hit you at the last moment....

[quickdodge®]

Sorry. What I meant was, If you were driving the SUV and you lost control, that's not my fault as the driver of the RSX. Although I may have weaved in front of you, the fact that you over reacted and lost control of your own vehicle is not something I should be punished for. Any sort of Driving class teaches you how to react in any situation (and to wear your seatbelts). The SUV driver lost control of his car because he didnt think logically in time to react, so he ended up over reacting emotionally and it got him killed.

i.e. If I am driving down a 2 ln rd (one going each direction) and I see a car coming towards me in my lane. The emotional thing would be to go into his lane as to not hit anything. but a class is going to tell you to go to the right. Even if you hit a pole or mailbox, a xx mile per hour accident is better than twice that (which is what would happen if you were to hit the other car head on).

You would not go into his ln because he may realize whats going on and swerve back and hit you at the last moment....

While I understand your post, there is one main, VERY IMPORTANT factor that's being overlooked for this particular discussion. We don't know how far/close the Acura was in relation to the SUV. That would make a big difference in the reaction of the SUV driver.

But the driver should be charged manslaughter because if he hadn't cut off the SUV period (no matter his reaction), it's "100% probable" that the SUV wouldn't have just lost control on it's own.

I'm bowing out of this until more facts come to light. Later, QD.

[chunky]

This is where you should insert the following:

"Originally Posted by chunky
As for your citation of an "oxymoron", I'm sure you are smart enough to know what I was saying. Dissecting semantics when the meaning is clear is a fool's game."



I'm not really sure why this is a kept up conversation piece. The facts are, they weren't.



That's why I said he won't get charged with what he should be charged with. He should at least be charged with vehicular manslaughter. For some reason, you're not understanding that he knew what he was doing. he knew he was driving like an idiot. He knew what could happen if he fucced up. He was intentionally driving like that anyway. Knowing the potential consequences. You must know this fucc or advocate driving like this to keep on defending this shiit for brains.



All you want. We both know I'm no fool. We both know you're a nobody on here and it's "100% probable" that you're a nobody pretty much anywhere else. Later, QD.
LOL. I wasn't dissecting semantics in the same way you were - as an attack on credibility. I was highlighting a valid point related to the discussion - there is more at stake than just $25 when seat belts are not worn. Also, there is no official statement on whether seat belts were worn or not. Not that I've seen anyhow. I just presented it as a likelihood.

In a similar fashion, there is more at stake than just the $200 speeding ticket when people speed. Speeding is risky behavior and so is driving/riding without a seat belt. Just because someone engaged in risky behavior does not mean that they were looking to kill someone. By your logic, anyone riding without a seat belt is doing so with the intent of dying. There is a well known risk associated with driving w/o a seat belt on and they put their lives at risk in cold blood. Right.

It's ridiculous to say that just b/c there is a risk of death associated with a particular activity that any individual partaking in that activity does so to bring about death.

Again, I'm not saying let the kid off scott free, but it's ridiculous to argue at this point that he purposely took the lives of the SUV occupants.

[quickdodge®]

Just because someone engaged in risky behavior does not mean that they were looking to kill someone. By your logic, anyone riding without a seat belt is doing so with the intent of dying.


It's ridiculous to say that just b/c there is a risk of death associated with a particular activity that any individual partaking in that activity does so to bring about death.


but it's ridiculous to argue at this point that he purposely took the lives of the SUV occupants.

Now I see where you're getting me all mixed up. Every time you've posted a rebuttal, you've alluded to me saying something I never said. Where did I EVER say that he killed these people with intent. I never did. Don't try to read more into my opinions than what's in there. He knew what he was doing could be dangerous. He knew what could happen. And knowing this, he did it anyway. With the outcome we all see. That's why I say he should at least get manslaughter. And not involuntary because he was intending on driving recklessly. That doesn't mean he volunteered to kill those people. But he did volunteer to drive the way he did thus resulting in their demise.


Now that I think I cleared up a misconception you had of my words, I will stand by my previous post and stay out. Later, QD.

[chunky]

Now I see where you're getting me all mixed up. Every time you've posted a rebuttal, you've alluded to me saying something I never said. Where did I EVER say that he killed these people with intent. I never did. Don't try to read more into my opinions than what's in there. He knew what he was doing could be dangerous. He knew what could happen. And knowing this, he did it anyway. With the outcome we all see. That's why I say he should at least get manslaughter. And not involuntary because he was intending on driving recklessly. That doesn't mean he volunteered to kill those people. But he did volunteer to drive the way he did thus resulting in their demise.


Now that I think I cleared up a misconception you had of my words, I will stand by my previous post and stay out. Later, QD.

I wasn't mixed up regarding your words at all. In fact, I stated previously that "You are trying to implicate that he intentionally killed these people," not that you did actually state that he willfully killed the occupants of the SUV. You make the link that he intentionally drove in a reckless fashion, which I do not disagree with. Then you state that the intention behind his manner of driving should escalate the charges, that point I do disagree with. In short, to escalate the charges, you would have to accuse him of having the intent to kill.

The present charges of vehicular homicide are appropriate because they encompass the reckless operation of a motor vehicle resulting in homicide but without any notions of the intent to kill. Vehicular homicide is a felony in the state of GA with a prison term of 3-15yrs. Involuntary manslaughter is actually a somewhat lesser charge - Since he was committing a misdemeanor (reckless) when the homicide occurred, it would be a felony involuntary manslaughter. That carries a prison term of 1-10yrs. He is up for the most prison time that the circumstances allow without upgrading to a charge that carries intent to kill.

I'm not a lawyer, but that is how I see things. If there are any lawyers reading this, I would gladly yield to your more qualified opinions.

My main point is that he should not be charged with any sort of intention to kill. Since we both agree on that, he's already up for the stiffest penalty available under the law for murder without intent. Vehicular homicide > involuntary manslaughter.

[quickdodge®]

In fact, I stated previously that "You are trying to implicate that he intentionally killed these people," not that you did actually state that he willfully killed the occupants of the SUV.

But I never implicated anything. I said he knew the possible outcomes and ignored them. If he had not ignored them, the family may still be here. He just figured this wouldn't happen, I'm sure.




My main point is that he should not be charged with any sort of intention to kill. Since we both agree on that, he's already up for the stiffest penalty available under the law for murder without intent. Vehicular homicide > involuntary manslaughter.

Agreed. Either way, it will be interesting to see how this plays out even more. You see where this dude now states that he had a passenger? Lolol. His side is just getting more bizarre and confusing each day. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

Damn, I'm supposed to be staying out of this thread, but since we've moved from this roadblock, lolol......... Later, QD.

[chunky]

But I never implicated anything. I said he knew the possible outcomes and ignored them. If he had not ignored them, the family may still be here. He just figured this wouldn't happen, I'm sure.



Agreed. Either way, it will be interesting to see how this plays out even more. You see where this dude now states that he had a passenger? Lolol. His side is just getting more bizarre and confusing each day. Later, QD.

The implication is clearly there. You said, "And not involuntary [manslaughter] because he was intending on driving recklessly." You're applying his intent to drive recklessly to his intent to kill. I don't agree with that at all. That's what I addressed when I made the distinction between partaking in a risky activity and partaking in a risky activity with the intent to cause harm.

Anyhow, I'm mostly interested to read about seat belt/child safety seat usage. This guy is going to have all kinds of wild stories before he (hopefully) just breaks down and accepts tells the truth. Hopefully it'll be something like this.

"Yes, I was driving too fast. I realized I needed to slow down and hit the brakes, but I saw that I could not stop in time. I attempted to utilize the emergency lane to avoid a collision, but the SUV swerved first into me, and then the opposite direction. I deeply regret being the trigger for the deaths of the occupants of the SUV. It was not my intention to kill anyone, but now that it has happened, I can only apologize and plea for mercy."

I'd have a lot more faith in the human spirit if this kid would just man up instead of trying to dodge the consequences.

[stillaneon]

While I understand your post, there is one main, VERY IMPORTANT factor that's being overlooked for this particular discussion. We don't know how far/close the Acura was in relation to the SUV. That would make a big difference in the reaction of the SUV driver.

But the driver should be charged manslaughter because if he hadn't cut off the SUV period (no matter his reaction), it's "100% probable" that the SUV wouldn't have just lost control on it's own.

I'm bowing out of this until more facts come to light. Later, QD.


:lmfao: :lmfao:

[ISAtlanta300]

Sorry. What I meant was, If you were driving the SUV and you lost control, that's not my fault as the driver of the RSX. Although I may have weaved in front of you, the fact that you over reacted and lost control of your own vehicle is not something I should be punished for. ....

So in other words, brake-checking is ok..... next time i'm on the freeway, i'm going to slam on my brakes for fun, so the other driver can swerve and miss me... what do i have to lose, right? I mean he should be keeping control of his vehicle at all times... me posing a hazard shouldn't matter... shame on him !!!!

[quickdodge®]

The implication is clearly there. You said, "And not involuntary [manslaughter] because he was intending on driving recklessly." You're applying his intent to drive recklessly to his intent to kill.

Actually, you are implying that that's what I said. You're reading more into this than I am. I guess to make you not look wrong? I don't think you're wrong in this. Just wrong about you THINK that I actually am saying.

But anyway.....


I'd have a lot more faith in the human spirit if this kid would just man up instead of trying to dodge the consequences.

You and me both, homey. Later, QD.

[chunky]

Actually, you are implying that that's what I said. You're reading more into this than I am. I guess to make you not look wrong? I don't think you're wrong in this. Just wrong about you THINK that I actually am saying.

But anyway.....



You and me both, homey. Later, QD.

I said:

"You are trying to implicate that he intentionally killed these people. "

You said:

"In a sense he did. He drove like this knowingly and willingly. He knew the dangers of his driving habit."

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showpost.php?p=36672606&postcount=105

Just thought I'd throw that out there. Anyhow, that point of contention is of no real consequnce anymore. :p

[BTLFED]

Sidenote: Chunky posting on IA? What is this world coming to? :eek:

Not many posts doesn't equal a "n00b" in Chunky's case. ;)

[quickdodge®]

I said:

"You are trying to implicate that he intentionally killed these people. "

You said:

"In a sense he did. He drove like this knowingly and willingly. He knew the dangers of his driving habit."

And it's true. In a sense he did. In a sense are the key words. We both know that that wasn't his intent.


Anyhow, that point of contention is of no real consequnce anymore.

Yessir. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

Not many posts doesn't equal a "n00b" in Chunky's case. ;)

Huh? Lolol. Later, QD.

[chunky]

Sidenote: Chunky posting on IA? What is this world coming to? :eek:

Not many posts doesn't equal a "n00b" in Chunky's case. ;)

haha. no kidding. I guess with the semester being almost over, I feel more at liberty to post.

http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/ajc/pdf/wreck0331.pdf

That's a link to the accident report in PDF format. Note the three sketched bodies indicated the passengers that were ejected. I'm not too familiar with accident reports, so I can't see where they indicate seatbelt usage, but it's probably indicated by the numerical code under "safety equip." Anyone have an accident report with the meanings of the codes listed?

[DieselNuts]

Yeah, those are only for the warrants. His charges aren't THAT many in number...

4 vehicular homicide...
1 reckless with injury
4 hit-n-run

Sometime like that...
This is what he is actually charged with:

4 counts of “Vehicular homicide in the 1st degree”
1 count of “Reckless driving”
1 count of “Serious injury by motor vehicle”
1 county of “Felony hit and Run”
3 counts of “Misdemeanor Hit and Run”

My sister works @ the Sheriff's dept. and told me.

[Ruiner]

This is what he is actually charged with:

4 counts of “Vehicular homicide in the 1st degree”
1 count of “Reckless driving”
1 count of “Serious injury by motor vehicle”
1 county of “Felony hit and Run”
3 counts of “Misdemeanor Hit and Run”

My sister works @ the Sheriff's dept. and told me.
It's listed on the webpage, I just didn't feel like formatting the words from the table...

[DieselNuts]

its all good. My sis emailed it to me. Copy & Paste is a beautiful thing.

[Ruiner]

i dont beleive that he should charged with killing anyone that wasn't wearing their seatbelt! we don't even know for sure that he caused the wreck because no one actually witnessed it. they saw a loud import driving "fast" on 85 and automatically put him to blame. i feel real bad for the family but you should always wear your seatbelts!

I do not believe that there is a state law for passengers of a limo-type vehicle to wear seatbelts, unfortunately.

[Ruiner]

The only thing they have on him is hit and run.

I agree, he was driving recklessly and it sucks but it happens. Changing lanes without a blinker is a reckless behavior but 45% or more of the people in Atlanta do it.

The fact that the driver of the SUV couldn't control the vehicle is the drivers fault. not the kid in the Acura (or whatever he was driving).

He may have been drunk, but there is no way to prove it, and the witness can say all day that he was to blame but, like the forums, without pics, it's bull****.

And most shuttles dont require you to wear seatbelts (although they should) so maybe the finger should be pointed towards the shuttle company or the dumbass people in the shuttle for not buckling up. If I die because I wasnt wearing my seatbelt, its not someone else fault. Its mine.

And the Expedition ran into the back of the Acura if I'm not mistaken. That would have been a ticket for the expedition driver if they adnt have died. Driving too fast for conditions or following too closely

I disagree. There was apparently a 911 call minutes before the wreck that reported a red RSX weaving in and out of traffic at a high rate of speed. Also, witnesses will be able to testify that the Acura passed the SUV on the shoulder of the HOV lane as well (highly illegal).

[stillaneon]

I disagree. There was apparently a 911 call minutes before the wreck that reported a red RSX weaving in and out of traffic at a high rate of speed. Also, witnesses will be able to testify that the Acura passed the SUV on the shoulder of the HOV lane as well (highly illegal).

Talking to some people at the Varsity, they Said the Acura sideswiped the SUV. I dont know what the truth is because the news doesn't disclose everything and the threads on here get things blown out of proportion....

[Ruiner]

Talking to some people at the Varsity, they Said the Acura sideswiped the SUV. I dont know what the truth is because the news doesn't disclose everything and the threads on here get things blown out of proportion....

Yes, the Acura hit and cut-off the SUV. The Acura also spun out and then left the scene.

I don't know about you, but if I was hit by an SUV or any other car on the interstate (as the 20yr old is claiming), I wouldn't flee the scene.

His story just doesn't make any sense. He claims that it was the SUV that hit him, but yet he didn't stick around to exchange insurance info and whatnot. It's all just rather fishy given his story. However, the story from all of the witnesses adds up rather easily.

[IDCoconut]

If he would have stayed, he obviously wouldn't have gotten the hit and run charges and the vehicular homicide could be made arguable. Actually, if he gets a good enough lawyer, he can possibly get out of the vehicular homicide. The reason being it was a large SUV, the driver did lose control, and the possibility that the passengers weren't wearing seatbelts.

We know it sucks, but ALL the blame cannot be put on the Acura driver. But I do hope he gets prosecuted for all his charges to prove a point for all the other morons that go way too fast on 85, and it's not just the japanese car drivers, I've seen BMW's and other cars go in excess of 100mph weaving in and out on I-85 and I-75.

[Ruiner]

If he would have stayed, he obviously wouldn't have gotten the hit and run charges and the vehicular homicide could be made arguable. Actually, if he gets a good enough lawyer, he can possibly get out of the vehicular homicide. The reason being it was a large SUV, the driver did lose control, and the possibility that the passengers weren't wearing seatbelts.

We know it sucks, but ALL the blame cannot be put on the Acura driver. But I do hope he gets prosecuted for all his charges to prove a point for all the other morons that go way too fast on 85, and it's not just the japanese car drivers, I've seen BMW's and other cars go in excess of 100mph weaving in and out on I-85 and I-75.

That bolded part, while correct, is not an argument. All that needs to be proven is that he acted in a reckless manner. Multiple independent witness statements plus the police investigation should prove this beyond a reasonable doubt.

I do not believe that it is state law to wear seatbelts in a limo-type vehicle, either.

I believe that the evidence will show that the SUV lost control because it was side-swiped by the RSX...time will tell on that one.

[DieselNuts]

Actually, if he gets a good enough lawyer, he can possibly get out of the vehicular homicide. The reason being it was a large SUV, the driver did lose control, and the possibility that the passengers weren't wearing seatbelts.

We know it sucks, but ALL the blame cannot be put on the Acura driver.
Why not? If he were driving like he was suppose to and obaying the laws, 4 people wouldnt have lost their life. End of discussion.

[chunky]

After reading the police report, a couple of things become clear.

1) The guy was driving way beyond his ability to control his car. An RSX-s, in stock form even, is a pretty capable car provided you don't do something stupid. It also shows that the SUV Limo was in the far left, but not HOV, lane. The kid had, presumably, both the HOV and emergency lane. The drawing does not show that the RSX made any contact with the median wall either. Wonder why the kid swerved. Maybe the flat tire happened before the impact with the SUV and is what caused him to swerve? Or maybe he was drunk?

2) From the bodies drawn on the road, indicating ejection, seat belts were probably not in use. The driver of the SUV was not ejected.

Anyone know what "safety equip" indicates? I see 0, 3, and 8 marked. I'm wondering if that's the field where they indicate seat belt usage.

At any rate, if the guy had STAYED, he'd possibly get through the legal proceedings without a jail sentence. He's definitely going to jail. His best option at this point would be to fess up and appear remorseful. Otherwise he's going to get locked up for a long time.

[BTLFED]

After reading the police report, a couple of things become clear.

1) The guy was driving way beyond his ability to control his car. An RSX-s, in stock form even, is a pretty capable car provided you don't do something stupid. It also shows that the SUV Limo was in the far left, but not HOV, lane. The kid had, presumably, both the HOV and emergency lane. The drawing does not show that the RSX made any contact with the median wall either. Wonder why the kid swerved. Maybe the flat tire happened before the impact with the SUV and is what caused him to swerve? Or maybe he was drunk?

2) From the bodies drawn on the road, indicating ejection, seat belts were probably not in use. The driver of the SUV was not ejected.

Anyone know what "safety equip" indicates? I see 0, 3, and 8 marked. I'm wondering if that's the field where they indicate seat belt usage.

At any rate, if the guy had STAYED, he'd possibly get through the legal proceedings without a jail sentence. He's definitely going to jail. His best option at this point would be to fess up and appear remorseful. Otherwise he's going to get locked up for a long time.

NAIZBST would know. He's a Cobb County Police officer.

[chunky]

That bolded part, while correct, is not an argument. All that needs to be proven is that he acted in a reckless manner. Multiple independent witness statements plus the police investigation should prove this beyond a reasonable doubt.

I do not believe that it is state law to wear seatbelts in a limo-type vehicle, either.

I believe that the evidence will show that the SUV lost control because it was side-swiped by the RSX...time will tell on that one.

I think states should reconsider laws regarding seatbelts, and especially the use of child safety seats, in limos.

From the way the police sketch is drawn, there doesn't seem to be any way that the RSX caused the Limo to flip. That Limo outweighed the RSX by 3x, easily. Physics says, Limo wins, no matter where or how fast the RSX hit it. If the Limo was going 60mph, the RSX would have to be moving at 180mph to have an equal amount of momentum. Driver of the limo appears to have cranked the wheel to the right to try and avoid a collision. Although it's a natural instinct, it's probably the primary trigger for the rollover. So there is a degree of separation between the RSX hitting the Limo and the cause for rollover. Like you said, only time will tell how it is interpreted by the court.

[chunky]

NAIZBST would know. He's a Cobb County Police officer.
hopefully, he'll chime in.

[BTLFED]

I'll PM him this thread

[MistaCee]

The bottom line is, would this accident have happen without this sh!t tard doing 100+mph on a busy highway? I think not, also the fact that he fled the scene puts him in the right of guilt, he knew he was doing something wrong, crashed and didn't want to get caught. Even though the passengers in the other vehicles were not wearing and safety restraints, he still is the cause of the wreck which resulted in peoples death. He is of full account for this and cannot blame anyone.

[NAIZBST]

After reading the police report, a couple of things become clear.

1) The guy was driving way beyond his ability to control his car. An RSX-s, in stock form even, is a pretty capable car provided you don't do something stupid. It also shows that the SUV Limo was in the far left, but not HOV, lane. The kid had, presumably, both the HOV and emergency lane. The drawing does not show that the RSX made any contact with the median wall either. Wonder why the kid swerved. Maybe the flat tire happened before the impact with the SUV and is what caused him to swerve? Or maybe he was drunk?

2) From the bodies drawn on the road, indicating ejection, seat belts were probably not in use. The driver of the SUV was not ejected.

Anyone know what "safety equip" indicates? I see 0, 3, and 8 marked. I'm wondering if that's the field where they indicate seat belt usage.

At any rate, if the guy had STAYED, he'd possibly get through the legal proceedings without a jail sentence. He's definitely going to jail. His best option at this point would be to fess up and appear remorseful. Otherwise he's going to get locked up for a long time.


safety equipment can mean seatbelts, airbags,(if deployed or not), things like that. I think if I remember correctly that those numbers mean seatbelts and airbags deployed. also could indicate unknown on wearing seatbelts cuz of those ejected.

[chunky]

safety equipment can mean seatbelts, airbags,(if deployed or not), things like that. I think if I remember correctly that those numbers mean seatbelts and airbags deployed. also could indicate unknown on wearing seatbelts cuz of those ejected.

That's what I suspected. There's a separate field for airbags though. Both passengers in the RSX and the Limo Driver have 2 in that field. Thanks for the input.

[sanchez2000]

i think i found out who it was... i went to the link that puregroove has n then on the side of the video as other news so click on the one where it says "MAN CHARGED IN I-85 WRECK APPEARS TO COURT" it shows the guy and everything... his name is codey rodent...

[Ruiner]

i think i found out who it was... i went to the link that puregroove has n then on the side of the video as other news so click on the one where it says "MAN CHARGED IN I-85 WRECK APPEARS TO COURT" it shows the guy and everything... his name is codey rodent...

Cody Rhoden, actually...we've known his name for a few days now.

[Ruiner]

I think states should reconsider laws regarding seatbelts, and especially the use of child safety seats, in limos.

From the way the police sketch is drawn, there doesn't seem to be any way that the RSX caused the Limo to flip. That Limo outweighed the RSX by 3x, easily. Physics says, Limo wins, no matter where or how fast the RSX hit it. If the Limo was going 60mph, the RSX would have to be moving at 180mph to have an equal amount of momentum. Driver of the limo appears to have cranked the wheel to the right to try and avoid a collision. Although it's a natural instinct, it's probably the primary trigger for the rollover. So there is a degree of separation between the RSX hitting the Limo and the cause for rollover. Like you said, only time will tell how it is interpreted by the court.

IF the RSX hit the SUV, it could cause the SUV to swerve and then flip very easily.

[chunky]

IF the RSX hit the SUV, it could cause the SUV to swerve and then flip very easily.

I wouldn't say very easily. The SUV limo, even a regular expedition, has a relatively long wheelbase and a lot of momentum. Even if the RSX clipped it on the front corner going 120mph, the SUV would run it over, but not flip. A rollover is almost always the result of a driver cranking the wheel and slamming on the brakes, causing the front tire to give way and the rim of the wheel to dig into the pavement initiating the rollover.

The only way the impact could have initiated the rollover would be if the rsx hit the SUV directly on the front suspension and broke something causing the front of the SUV to dig in initiating a roll over. That doesn't appear to have been the case though.

[stillaneon]

I'm suprised I didnt see this earlier....




So in other words, brake-checking is ok..... next time i'm on the freeway, i'm going to slam on my brakes for fun, so the other driver can swerve and miss me... what do i have to lose, right? I mean he should be keeping control of his vehicle at all times... me posing a hazard shouldn't matter... shame on him !!!!

Brake check all you want to. The issue is the person behind you should not be so close to you that if you had to slam on the brakes, they couldnt react. And if your doing 100 plus, you should be able to get far enough ahead where this wouldnt be an issue

[PSINXS]

So in other words, brake-checking is ok..... next time i'm on the freeway, i'm going to slam on my brakes for fun, so the other driver can swerve and miss me... what do i have to lose, right? I mean he should be keeping control of his vehicle at all times... me posing a hazard shouldn't matter... shame on him !!!!
and if you hit someone that brake checks you, you get the ticket for following too close. stay off ppls bumpers. rule is their should be a 2 light pole interval between u nand the car in front. gives you plenty of time to react.

[sanchez2000]

oh didn't know ya'll know that ya'll knew the name already i just read it yesterday so yea im a lil slow hahaha

[BKgen®]

his name is codey rodent...


i just lol'd :lmfao:

[sanchez2000]

thats wats up