Finally boosting the accord

[1NonlyAccord]

Finally started my ordering process.Probably be done during spring break or beg. of May.
F23a stock block/internals..with 122xxxmiles on it.
I ordered a Tial wastegate with a .5bar spring(7.2ish psi) with a 1-3psi drop in
charge pipes. will 7psi be a safe DD with a chipped ECU with chrome,and AFC hack.
also any tips of fello boosted F guys evn OBDII guys?

so far only have-t3 xs power turbo, SS oil line,downpipe 5bolf flange, Treadstone cast turbo manifold, and a Tial wastegate with .5bar., IACV 2wire plug.
but still getting:
SS oil return line kit
HKS ssq bov
Walbro 255 fuel pump
ebay intercooler with piping
precision 440cc injectors-phearable.net
RC Plug n play obd2-obd1 injector clips
chipped ecu with basemap-Phearable.net
obd2b-obd1 wire conversion from phearable.net also
2.5" downpipe
greddy evo2 catback exhaust-optional
Autometer Airfuel,oil pressure and boost gauge-3pod pillar
NEWneeds: obd1 IACV
adapter plate for the f23 IACV-gen5alive.com

anything im forgetting or any input?

[helcat17]

fair warning dont get an xspower turbo thats what i started off with and it made it about 2800 miles and i wasnt even pushing it at all didnt even make it to the first oil change thats why i had the garrett that i was tellin you about

[EmminoDaGreat]

you dont need a 3 bar, you dont need a vacuum box, or afc if you have a chipped ecu.

[xbn83]

First, it is CROME not chrome (Cui Rom Editor). Like the guy above said, running chipped ECU, why need to run with AFC or SAFC or whatever else? You don't run enough boost for the need of the 3 bar map sensor. If you plan to run only 7 psi, stock map sensor could read up to 9 or 10 psi. Save some money to get the brand name turbo like Garrett, Precision...instead of cheap turbo. Do it cheap, do it multiple times! Do it right the first time. Look like you still need to do a lot more research before boosting your engine!

[WhiteLightning]

nice setup

[1NonlyAccord]

i just thought having a chipped ecu on a basemap wouldnt be save driving around before i get it tuned.but then again i see cars up forsale all the time here: untuned or blah blah on basemap and they seem to do fine..?

[xbn83]

Driving around a boost car without getting it tuned is a dumbest thing to do! I don't understand why people spend a lot of money to build their engine, buy expensive turbo kit then drive around with "BASEMAP", and don't tune their car right away? It only takes a second to mess up a good engine. No money? Then don't drive it until get it tuned! IMO there is no reason people can come up with the money for turbo, but can't come up with money to tune. Stay away from those people who sell their boosted cars that run on "BASEMAP"! Most likely they already messed up their engines.

[WhiteAccord]

Dude shut the **** up.... driving on a base map is ok, as long as you dont hit boost. What a ****ing idiot, on trying to say it isnt ok to drive on a base map, then why the **** was it created then?

Although it is ok to drive untune, its best to get it tuned ASAP.

Also dont use XS power as an option, and it dosent take a lot of research to figure slapping on a turbo and calling it a day.

My opinion is run the same turbo as Emino is, that spools up quick and its perfect for the F23///

btw are auto or 5spd?

[BlkCD5]

nice time to upgrade your tranny if you haven't done so?

[WhiteAccord]

If your on the auto tranny, I suggest you get it rebuilt to OEM or Build the tranny itsself.

If your on the 5spd, then upgrade the clutch and flywheel.

[1NonlyAccord]

its 5 speed. with new clutch,new hardline,master and slave cylinder.all oem tho.

[1NonlyAccord]

i was looking at the garrett aireasearch(sp?) but it had an internal wastegate.and i didnt want to have internal wastegate due to of course the mani is 35/38mm gated and i ordered the TiAl..

what if i take apart the turbo and rebuild it before i evn use it?
its the one stamped M12-iv seen a few people use them.

[EmminoDaGreat]

hes not wrong, most people who boost their cars that drive on basemaps are prone to boosting on them, its ok to drive a basemap if you drive it non aggressivly, not in boost. However do not drive on a basemap for too long.

[1NonlyAccord]

but how do you not hit boost?

[1NonlyAccord]

hes not wrong, most people who boost their cars that drive on basemaps are prone to boosting on them, its ok to drive a basemap if you drive it non aggressivly, not in boost. However do not drive on a basemap for too long.

do you think you could take some pics of your Bay and PM me,so i can get the idea of what itl look like,like the vaccum lines ect..please.or atleast a detailed description.lol

[EmminoDaGreat]

oh btw, enjoy converting your car from 3 wire iacv to 2 wire.

[1NonlyAccord]

oh btw, enjoy converting your car from 3 wire iacv to 2 wire.

why do i need to convert the idel control valve to 3-2 wire?

just read on honda-tech and it said only autos are 3 wires.?

[EmminoDaGreat]

nope, why question someone that has done it? and no i dont have an auto.

[1NonlyAccord]

whats that involve?

[EmminoDaGreat]

It sucks, that 5spd accords 98+ have 3 wire iacv, anyway you have to repin some stuff at the ecu and conver the plug to a 2 wire, make an adapator plate at the intake manifold etc etc to accept the 2 wire iacv..... or you can bolt on an obd1 f series intake manifold and be done with it, still having to rewire the stuff though.

[1NonlyAccord]

so im pretty much going to waste time and money trying to bolt on a turbo to a obd2 accord? haha

[EmminoDaGreat]

just be prepared for what you are getting into.

[1NonlyAccord]

i just searched. and found the http://technet.ff-squad.com/ diagram
from the B(25p) connector move B6 wire to empty b23 and remove b15.

sound about right for the repin?

[EmminoDaGreat]

i know it took me forever to find it because everyone had the "wrong pinout" but it is in the b connector.

[1NonlyAccord]

so it just wont idle right since obd1 cars only read 2wire ? is that pretty much it summed up?

[EmminoDaGreat]

it will be hard to tune w/o the 2 wire iacv hooked up, and driveability will suck the balls

[1NonlyAccord]

well i think i have the repin diagram, but idk what else i need to do,didnt understand what u said about mounting brackets ect..:thinking:

[1NonlyAccord]

http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/wiring/wiring.96-98.jpg

does that help any?

[1NonlyAccord]

do i need to purchase a iacv from a obd1 car with the 2wire style...and 2 wire plug?

[EmminoDaGreat]

yes, and in order for it to work properly you have to make an adaptor plate to put it on the intake mani (where the 3wire is)

[1NonlyAccord]

any specific one(atucal iacv)? i found one from a obd1 accord?

[EmminoDaGreat]

nah anyone thats in working order will be fine.

[1NonlyAccord]

ok i went ahead and ordered the only 2 wire plug i can find $10.ill order the thing later on.
what kind of adapter plate exactly will be needed?

[EmminoDaGreat]

one to make a 2 wire bolt onto ur existing 3 wire spot.

[1NonlyAccord]

do you have any pics you could pm me of your personal car?

also this one is off a civic ?
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/mr_crispy1011/iacv.jpg

[EmminoDaGreat]

not of that stuff, but ya thats what you need/.

[1NonlyAccord]

so that goes on the TB,and just plug back up the hoses and the new 2wire plug?
and does the bolt holes go over something that needs to be air tight or anything?

[EmminoDaGreat]

it doesnt need to leak....

[1NonlyAccord]

i meant like is there a hole opening on the TB where this sits on top making it air tight or somthing i can bolt up to a plate i fab up?

also would i repin before the conversion harness starts?

[EmminoDaGreat]

yes , yes

[1NonlyAccord]

ok im looking at that section in my haynes manual.
anything else i should now about? haha

[1NonlyAccord]

our OE valves has 3 nipples on it..as that civic obd1 has 2nipples? any input with that also..

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/mr_crispy1011/AC271.jpg

[EmminoDaGreat]

i have nipples greg, can you milk me?

[WhiteAccord]

/\/\ WTF????

[1NonlyAccord]

sorry,this is just the 1st iv heard of all this 3-2 wire.just want to get everything planned out so i can do it right and wont run like crap evn on basemap.

[1NonlyAccord]

found a already made adapter plate for 35$ but probably since ik what it looks like can fab one myself.
http://www.gen5alive.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=503_4_423&products_id=621