CAI + rain =

[Vuongy_Dong]

Those with CAI, this is what happens when it rains and motor hydro locks. bent the hell out of the rods. This was on a RSX type s with only 80K miles.

[Sammich]

is the last pic showing the culprit who attributed to the bent rods?

[speedminded]

Nobody ever listens when I suggest against them! :tongue: A warm air intake up high will produce just as much power as one that sitting down behind the bumper, epecially on K motor Honda's with the exhaust out the back! Wrap the header and put on a hondata intake manifold gasket and there's virtually no heat to deal with anyways...

[EJ25RUN]

Nobody ever listens when I suggest against them! :tongue: A warm air intake up high will produce just as much power as one that sitting down behind the bumper, epecially on K motor Honda's with the exhaust out the back! Wrap the header and put on a hondata intake manifold gasket and there's virtually no heat to deal with anyways...

instead of header wrap, hyper coat it. Its 60% reduction in temp.

[JITB]

how about instead of wrap, get a air bypass valve.. theymade those for a reason!! it wasnt a fad!

but that sucks,

that happened to a friend in his neon, but he was able to prove via his mechanic that it happened due to water being sucked up into the motor. And his insurance covered him a new motor..

[BKgen®]

SRI FTW! all that destruction for what, a couple of extra HP? pfff...

[BKgen®]

how about instead of wrap, get a air bypass valve.. theymade those for a reason!! it wasnt a fad!

but that sucks,

that happened to a friend in his neon, but he was able to prove via his mechanic that it happened due to water being sucked up into the motor. And his insurance covered him a new motor..

Insurance didn't screw him for having a CAI installed instead of the stock air cleaner? hmmm... :thinking:

[JITB]

Insurance didn't screw him for having a CAI installed instead of the stock air cleaner? hmmm... :thinking:


not at all, he made a call.. they contacted the mechanic.. and it was done. i was suprised.. but they cut him a 800$ check, and he upgraded to a 2.4!

[mushroom_toy]

Yeah I know right unless youre not running a bypass valve, and your car is low - pretty much knee deep in water already - then cai + rain should not be a problem. Ive been running mine for almost a little less than a year now, and ive driven through several parts of rivers even and been perfectly fine. I DO run a bypass valve though. It is essential.

[Jaimecbr900]

A simple $50 part would've avoided what is probably going to cost him 20x's more.
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/3g/parts/aem/aem-valve.jpg

[hondachik]

ahh man I know how that bs feels. I went through a puddle during heavy rains (abt 3 car lengths long) in August and my car shut down halfway through it. You could see the water in my engine (126k)..it was about a cup full. That engine prob happened @ 5pm, and my car didn't start until 11am the next day. I went out there and mashed over & over, and it sounded like a diesel engine trying to start, however finally it started and I still have the black smoke mark on the driveway from my exhaust. The engine seems fine. I avoid puddles, don't speed in the rain & will get a Mishimoto carbon fiber Short Ram next month.

[hondachik]

A simple $50 part would've avoided what is probably going to cost him 20x's more.
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/3g/parts/aem/aem-valve.jpg

funny...never heard of this part before....u would think some MF around my town would have told me about this part after my incident happened...

[Sammich]

uh..yea, it's been around for a while, but i never needed it b/c i didn't want the worries of the CAI...so i went w/ SRI...(smart move for me) never worried about puddles, even being slammed

[JITB]

funny...never heard of this part before....u would think some MF around here would have told me about this part after my incident happened...

ull spend 300$ on a carbon fiber intake but wont get the bypass valve! :screwy:

[Jaimecbr900]

^^^No offense, but why would anyone drive thru a "puddle" that is deep enough for your engine to suck in water? I understand shooting across a puddle because you didn't see it or it was small. But a puddle that's deep enough to get your engine to hydrolock is not something you sneak up on, right? So why drive thru it? Why not just U-turn and go another way? Hell, I don't tailgate in the rain because I have my turbo intake down low behind the fog light and am worried about overspray mucking up the filter. So I damn sure would freak out if I saw a puddle that could be deep enough to suck up water from.


Sorry guys, but if you can't spend $50 to avoid this or be careful enough not to drive out into a lake.....you will get what you deserve.

[Jaimecbr900]

funny...never heard of this part before....u would think some MF around here would have told me about this part after my incident happened...

That part has been around for atleast as long as CAI's have been, which is to say that's been around forever. It's very simple to put on and works on a very simple concept. You know how a broken straw doesn't work very good when the break is above the water line? This works using the exact same physics.

[hondachik]

it was heavy rains, and I didn't see the puddle until the last second...I couldn't go around it because the one side of the road that wasn't flooded, there was a car right there. so believe me, I've been driving my car lowered for the past 2 yrs and thought about swerving...and the puddle was right there as I turned on to the road. I just couldn't see it until the last second due to the heavy ass rains.

[hondachik]

ull spend 300$ on a carbon fiber intake but wont get the bypass valve! :screwy:

nah made the decision that If I can just spend $20-$50 to fix the problem, then I wasn't going to get the bypass valve. I was only getting the carbon fiber for looks & because it would be short ram. But if I don't need to go short ram at all, then screw a new piece. That extra money will go towards my new coilovers.

[mushroom_toy]

That bypass valve posted looks kinda crappy though. Doesnt look like its made too good. I have an AEM one and its of great durability, and doesnt look cheap. Heres what I have and love it.

http://www.speedstash.com/aem/bypass_va/aem-1044-l.jpg

EDIT: Nm that picture he posted is the AEM, but without the foam covering. But you do need the foam to help keep crap from getting in the intake. Dont take the foam off.

[Jaimecbr900]

That bypass valve posted looks kinda crappy though. Doesnt look like its made too good. I have an AEM one and its of great durability, and doesnt look cheap. Heres what I have and love it.

http://www.speedstash.com/aem/bypass_va/aem-1044-l.jpg

EDIT: Nm that picture he posted is the AEM, but without the foam covering. But you do need the foam to help keep crap from getting in the intake. Dont take the foam off.

I posted that pic so people would see that a bypass valve is not just some piece of foam. ;)

BTW, the foam does absolutely nothing until the bypass valve works. Under normal conditions, it does absolutely nothing. It only works when the vaccum inside the CAI is so high that those flaps spread out....as in when the CAI is sucking up water much like a straw. Much like a straw with a slit in it, the liquid will not go up the straw as it normally would. That's how and why it works. :goodjob:

You are correct though, there is no need to take the foam off.

[mushroom_toy]

Thats what im saying...you dont want it to suck up a gallon of water and have the foam off. It does not let crap in say its off and the filter is bypasses, you might end up sucking up gunk, grime, dirt anything from the engine bay. Thats all im saying. :)

[bRiAnMcIvIcS]

I just recently got rid of my CAI. They just arent worth it.:no:

[delsolnohoe]

why is that black guy not doing anything.

[delsolnohoe]

why is voungy not doing anything.where are the girls at.

[Vuongy_Dong]

is the last pic showing the culprit who attributed to the bent rods?
lol. no. if you are thinking that the main bearing cap bolts were taken off with an impact, its not. you have to break it loose in the loosening sequence, then use an impact to take it off. unless you want to unscrew all the bolts by hand. lol

[WhiteAccord]

LOL

[RandomGuy]

lol. no. if you are thinking that the main bearing cap bolts were taken off with an impact, its not. you have to break it loose in the loosening sequence, then use an impact to take it off. unless you want to unscrew all the bolts by hand. lol
he was talking about the black guy LOL

[ATL96LX]

I got my Air Bypass right before I went to New Orleans (which we all know is below sea level) and im glad i did cuz it rain for 5 and half hours on the way down there...

[KevinT707]

I must have good luck then because I've never had a bypass on my CAI for the past 3 years and the filter sits 3" off the ground, behind the bumper.

One time I hit a deep puddle and my car sputtered, died and turned back on after 2 mins though; I was scurred ..