Micheal Vick Sentenced to 23 Months!!

[Leadfoot_mf]

will he ever play foot ball again?

[soul]

23 months, with optional parol on good behavior?

[Sammich]

sweet...:gay: sweet

[1000cckiller]

will he ever play foot ball again?yep

[rndockery98]

yes, i believe he will play again.

[XLR8NMR2]

i'm still rocking his jersey

GO FALCONS

[Leadfoot_mf]

i dont think he is coming back to the falcons...lol

[Kelly]

Can we visit him in jail?

[1000cckiller]

Can we visit him in jail?begging for him back so soon. Damn you falcon fans are lame.

[Kelly]

begging for him back so soon. Damn you falcon fans are lame.

Just look at our season! lol...


Chilax

[Sammich]

begging for him back so soon. Damn you falcon fans are lame.

no she just has a thing for black superstars...or has beens

[Kelly]

Not true. I just miss watchin him play.

I'm against what he did though

[Sammich]

not me...let em fight..let em pay...

where i'm from u dont work u dont eat..the dogs were just getting their food the way we do..they just went to work..like meriweather...

[XLR8NMR2]

vick may come back to the falcons, blank made a statement saying he accepts his apology and is welcome back to the falcons but it's all up to the NFL

[BKgen®]

Good. What a lousy piece of sh*t. I hope he rots in there.

[1000cckiller]

Not true. I just miss watchin him play.

I'm against what he did thoughI am not, people do far worse **** than him and get away with it. I have two pits, I wouldn't fight them but those are his dogs.

[hondachik]

lmao @ only 23 months...wtf?

[XLR8NMR2]

lmao @ only 23 months...wtf?

Did you expect more for fighting some damn dogs?

[Ruiner]

23 months, with optional parol on good behavior?

I *believe* that federal law might make him serve at least 80%, but I'll have to confirm.

[Leadfoot_mf]

lol at kelly wanting to give ron mexico a conjugal visit.

[Spectic Tank]

Did you expect more for fighting some damn dogs?

You do realize his charges weren't just 'fighting dogs'...he violated the RICOH act by 'conspiring to commit felonies over state lines'. That's a much more serious charge than dog fighting.

[Leadfoot_mf]

I *believe* that federal law might make him serve at least 80%, but I'll have to confirm.
news hasnt said anything yet about that but also 3 years probation.

[ARFNSX]

Maybe if he flashes his pearly brown eyes, he can get out in 84 minutes like Paris Hilton or Nicole Richie...

http://simplymarvelous.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/paris-jail.jpg HAWT!!!

[blackboi50]

damn well that kills the season for 2 years and then some!!!!!!:(.....1

[Leadfoot_mf]

You do realize his charges weren't just 'fighting dogs'...he violated the RICOH act by 'conspiring to commit felonies over state lines'. That's a much more serious charge than dog fighting.
thats just bull**** govmt charges to make a case where otherwise there wouldnt be as much of a case.

[1000cckiller]

I *believe* that federal law might make him serve at least 80%, but I'll have to confirm.You are correct

[Spectic Tank]

thats just bull**** govmt charges to make a case where otherwise there wouldnt be as much of a case.

lol

[XLR8NMR2]

**** THE LAW!

[NevrNufTorq]

I *believe* that federal law might make him serve at least 80%, but I'll have to confirm.

you are correct that they could but i bet he gets 1 for 1 time served. that would put him out in under 11 mos or less if they also tack the 'good behavior' onto it. boubt theyll push for too much more with all the drama surrounding this case :2cents:

[Ruiner]

lol at kelly wanting to give ron mexico a conjugal visit.

Maybe she wants the herpes as well? :thinking:

[BLK JDM]

Michael Vick was sentenced to 23 months in federal prison and three years' probation Monday for his role in a dogfighting conspiracy. The suspended Falcons quarterback is looking at a scheduled release of October 2009.

TAKEN FROM ESPN:
The suspended Atlanta Falcons quarterback could have been sentenced up to five years by District Judge Henry E. Hudson. Vick was dressed in a black-and-white striped prison suit and apologized to the court and his family.

Hudson responded, "You need to apologize to the millions of young people who looked up to you."

"Yes, sir," Vick said.

Vick acknowledged he used "poor judgment" and added, "I'm willing to deal with the consequences and accept responsibility for my actions."

Before the hearing started, Michael Vick's brother, Marcus Vick, sat with his right arm around their mother, comforting her as she buried her head in her hands and wept.

Vick also received three years' probation. With nearly a month already served, his scheduled release would come in October 2009.

Falcons owner Arthur Blank called the sentencing "another step in his legal journey.

"This is a difficult day for Michael's family and for a lot of us, including many of our players and fans who have been emotionally invested in Michael over the years," Blank added.

"We sincerely hope that Michael will use this time to continue to focus his efforts on making positive changes in his life, and we wish him well in that regard."

Vick pleaded guilty in August, admitting he bankrolled the "Bad Newz Kennels" dogfighting operation and helped kill six to eight dogs.

In a plea agreement, he admitted bankrolling the dogfighting ring on his 15-acre property in rural southeastern Virginia and helping kill pit bulls that did not perform well in test fights. He also admitted providing money for bets on the fights but said he never shared in any winnings.

At the time of his plea agreement, Vick agreed to waive his right to appeal his sentence.

[Ruiner]

You guys make sure not to confuse state charges (Paris Hilton) with Federal charges (Vick).

[Sammich]

get thee fuct out...w/ this repost nonsense

[XLR8NMR2]

I SAY WE START A RIOT AT THE DOME TODAY

[RUFFIAN]

thats some bullsh!t.

[sshonda2004]

dang, that doesnt seem right, over some damn dogs thats breed to fight, shame shame.

[Coolstr85]

he will never play in the nfl again....1). he is going to be out for 3 years
2). then he faces punishment for the nfl commision.
3). he isnt playing for 3 years! he won't be able to train and keep up in prison. you don't get the right food or have the right equipment to train properly to be a candidate for an nfl team.
4). an nfl team has to accept what he has done and be willing to accept everything that comes along with him


he is done.....you can't be away from the game for 3 years and then just expect to pop right back in there.

[XLR8NMR2]

http://vmedia.rivals.com/UserMedia/FanPagesPhoto/Gallery/20/O65958.gif

lol at these shirts.

[Echonova]

Maybe if he flashes his pearly brown eyes, he can get out in 84 minutes like Paris Hilton or Nicole Richie...

http://simplymarvelous.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/paris-jail.jpg HAWT!!!Won't happen, they are white and have a vagina... He does not, as far as I know.

[tatodotcom]

dang, that doesnt seem right, over some damn dogs thats breed to fight, shame shame.

you're so ignorant if you think that...how can you be so uneducated and make a statement like that? how are the things he did justifiable just because of the types of dogs they were....

[1000cckiller]

he will never play in the nfl again....1). he is going to be out for 3 years
2). then he faces punishment for the nfl commision.
3). he isnt playing for 3 years! he won't be able to train and keep up in prison. you don't get the right food or have the right equipment to train properly to be a candidate for an nfl team.
4). an nfl team has to accept what he has done and be willing to accept everything that comes along with him


he is done.....you can't be away from the game for 3 years and then just expect to pop right back in there.mang shut that **** up.

[Kelly]

Won't happen, they are white and have a vagina... He does not, as far as I know.

:lmao:

[BLK JDM]

With the economy in turmoil, kids shooting up malls, troops dying in Iraq, companies stealing from employees, american education being ranked at the bottom, AIDS and HPV being rampant in young females we as Americans let the GOVT use hard earned time and money to deal w/ Vick instead of fining his ass billions not millions and using that money to help the education system rather than just making commercials about No Child Left Behind!!

I don't condone what he did but I also HATE that he gets all this attention when there are so many bigger problems in our nation. Hell if you're not a young, white kid from suburban america and you go missing don't plan on your picture being on the news and people giving a damn. But the press has time to follow him and other actors, celebs 24/7!! I'm done w/ my rant.

[Spectic Tank]

With the economy in turmoil, kids shooting up malls, troops dying in Iraq, companies stealing from employees, american education being ranked at the bottom, AIDS and HPV being rampant in young females we as Americans let the GOVT use hard earned time and money to deal w/ Vick instead of fining his ass billions not millions and using that money to help the education system rather than just making commercials about No Child Left Behind!!

I don't condone what he did but I also HATE that he gets all this attention when there are so many bigger problems in our nation. Hell if you're not a young, white kid from suburban america and you go missing don't plan on your picture being on the news and people giving a damn. But the press has time to follow him and other actors, celebs 24/7!! I'm done w/ my rant.

I see what you're saying. Yes, there are more important things going on in America...but that doesn't excuse someone from breaking the law.

It's the media's fault that this gets so much airplay.

[BLK JDM]

you're so ignorant if you think that...how can you be so uneducated and make a statement like that? how are the things he did justifiable just because of the types of dogs they were....

He may not be ignorant he just didn't have a good way of saying it. We hunt turkey, ducks, deer, and plenty of other animals around the country but b/c he killed man's best friend it's a crime?? I have a dog and I love him but I don't see the severity of him doing this. In plenty of other countries they allow cockfighting, dog fighting, and even mongoose and snake fighting.

Hell we inhumane animals on a daily basis here in america. There's bullriding-you strap on the back of a bull while some other guy yanks on his nuts to the point that he bucks, kicks, and fights and they don't go to jail. It's actually a million dollar sport. We cut the mane off horses to use for women's hair, **** we even kill horses for dog food!!

It's all how you look at things, if they're gonna charge Vick they should charge a whole lot more companies and people out there for inhumanity of animals.

[nreggie454]

dang, that doesnt seem right, over some damn dogs thats breed to fight, shame shame.

Surprising to see you again taking the moron's stance in this argument :rolleyes:.

Even if you don't think it is wrong, there are federal laws that disagree with you. Vick knew what he was doing was wrong in this society and he did it anyways, and got caught. As a result, Vick deserves to be punished. /argument

[tatodotcom]

and he more than the minimum sentence because without his money there is no way the size of the dog fighting operation would have been possible. he also smoked pot while on probation. he is an idiot who ruined his career and let down millions of people who looked at him as a role model. its just one thing after another with him. and i hope he never represents an nfl team again.

[Jaimecbr900]

Look at ole Jerel getting all political and stuff.....:goodjob:


Vick is going to get out way before that 23 months. He'll play in the NFL again, but will likely not ever be on the same level he was before all this happened.

Personally, I think he needs to take his pill and be done with it. The media needs to let him be AFTER he does his time and call it a day. I certainly don't condone for one sec what he and his retard friends call a "sport", but once the guy serves his time.....he should be allowed to go back to do his thing. Remember, this is America. Where you can kill people and then come back to make yourself a millionaire if you want to. If he serves his time, then he should have the chance to do whatever he wants AFTER that. ANY time in Federal Prison is no joke. He's not likely to not be bothered too much since he's a rich celebrity, but I certainly wouldn't want to be in there for a minute let alone a year.

Some people would have us make Vick wear his Scarlet Letter forever. While I think the guy is an idiot and what he did was stupid and barbaric, IF he serves his time then we just need to let him be. Isn't that the way its supposed to work?

[Reaper]

lol @ mike vick getting raped in jail for 23 months..

[tatodotcom]

Look at ole Jerel getting all political and stuff.....:goodjob:


Vick is going to get out way before that 23 months. He'll play in the NFL again, but will likely not ever be on the same level he was before all this happened.

Personally, I think he needs to take his pill and be done with it. The media needs to let him be AFTER he does his time and call it a day. I certainly don't condone for one sec what he and his retard friends call a "sport", but once the guy serves his time.....he should be allowed to go back to do his thing. Remember, this is America. Where you can kill people and then come back to make yourself a millionaire if you want to. If he serves his time, then he should have the chance to do whatever he wants AFTER that. ANY time in Federal Prison is no joke. He's not likely to not be bothered too much since he's a rich celebrity, but I certainly wouldn't want to be in there for a minute let alone a year.

Some people would have us make Vick wear his Scarlet Letter forever. While I think the guy is an idiot and what he did was stupid and barbaric, IF he serves his time then we just need to let him be. Isn't that the way its supposed to work?

how will he get out before 23 months? he already gave up his right to appeal in the plea bargain. and how can you say he'll play again after being out of the nfl for a minimum of 3 years? there are better athletes out there that are coming up and who will show more respect off the field. not attacking you just find it hard to believe. but yes, once he is done serving his time, it should be over with, although it will never be

[nreggie454]

He may not be ignorant he just didn't have a good way of saying it. We hunt turkey, ducks, deer, and plenty of other animals around the country but b/c he killed man's best friend it's a crime?? I have a dog and I love him but I don't see the severity of him doing this. In plenty of other countries they allow cockfighting, dog fighting, and even mongoose and snake fighting.

Hell we inhumane animals on a daily basis here in america. There's bullriding-you strap on the back of a bull while some other guy yanks on his nuts to the point that he bucks, kicks, and fights and they don't go to jail. It's actually a million dollar sport. We cut the mane off horses to use for women's hair, **** we even kill horses for dog food!!

It's all how you look at things, if they're gonna charge Vick they should charge a whole lot more companies and people out there for inhumanity of animals.

People hunt for food. Usually when a hunt is over, they clean the animal and save the meat for eating.

In bullriding, the worst that happens to the bull at the end is that it is pissed off for a while, but overall he is OK. They don't kill the bull for entertainment. That is bullfighting, and that is also illegal in the US.

We cut the mane's off horses to use for women's hair. At least the "pain" that the horse is going through has a positive result in the end.

We kill horses for dog food. Since when is killing livestock for food immoral?

Vick made dogs fight to the death in unnatural situations. Vick made dogs fight for others' entertainment and so they could gamble on it (also illegal). Vick killed multiple dogs just because they couldn't fight. Any positive from any of these? No.

These are totally different. It might be how you look at things, but don't cut out the big picture to help prove your argument.

[tatodotcom]

People hunt for food. Usually when a hunt is over, they clean the animal and save the meat for eating.

In bullriding, the worst that happens to the bull at the end is that it is pissed off for a while, but overall he is OK. They don't kill the bull for entertainment. That is bullfighting, and that is also illegal in the US.

We cut the mane's off horses to use for women's hair. At least the "pain" that the horse is going through has a positive result in the end.

We kill horses for dog food. Since when is killing livestock for food immoral?

Vick made dogs fight to the death in unnatural situations. Vick made dogs fight for others' entertainment and so they could gamble on it (also illegal). Vick killed multiple dogs just because they couldn't fight. Any positive from any of these? No.

These are totally different. It might be how you look at things, but don't cut out the big picture to help prove your argument.


thank you, these things are completly different.

[Spectic Tank]

dang, that doesnt seem right, over some damn dogs thats breed to fight, shame shame.

LOL

He was charged with 'conspiring to commit felonies across state lines'. He got off easy for what he did. You sir, are a shame.

[Reaper]

Look at ole Jerel getting all political and stuff.....:goodjob:


Vick is going to get out way before that 23 months. He'll play in the NFL again, but will likely not ever be on the same level he was before all this happened.

Personally, I think he needs to take his pill and be done with it. The media needs to let him be AFTER he does his time and call it a day. I certainly don't condone for one sec what he and his retard friends call a "sport", but once the guy serves his time.....he should be allowed to go back to do his thing. Remember, this is America. Where you can kill people and then come back to make yourself a millionaire if you want to. If he serves his time, then he should have the chance to do whatever he wants AFTER that. ANY time in Federal Prison is no joke. He's not likely to not be bothered too much since he's a rich celebrity, but I certainly wouldn't want to be in there for a minute let alone a year.

Some people would have us make Vick wear his Scarlet Letter forever. While I think the guy is an idiot and what he did was stupid and barbaric, IF he serves his time then we just need to let him be. Isn't that the way its supposed to work?

couldn't have said it better:goodjob:

He's talented, he won't be AS good as he was before. But SOMEONE will pick him up. It just wont be the falcons.

[tatodotcom]

couldn't have said it better:goodjob:

He's talented, he won't be AS good as he was before. But SOMEONE will pick him up. It just wont be the falcons.


how? do you realize missing three years of football will do to him? he won't be able to train or have the right food to train properly. I don't think an nfl team is going to risk the chance of 1). seeing if he can still play
2). risk the troubles that comes along with him
and i'm not the only one who thinks this. espn thinks so as well, as well as 3 nfl coaches stated on nfl network.

[Jaimecbr900]

how will he get out before 23 months?

Because this is America. Where your 23 month sentence doesn't mean 23 months. It means maybe 1/2 that on a good day and bad lawyering.

He'll probably get out in somewhere between 12-18 mos. Watch and see.


how can you say he'll play again after being out of the nfl for a minimum of 3 years?

Because the guy is not going to forget, not that he ever knew how:doh: , how to throw a ball or run just because he's in jail. He'll be really rusty and no where near top shape, but he's not going to suddenly become some kind of couch potato either. The guy is or atleast was an athlete. A very good athlete at that. He's not too old. There have been many athletes that come out of "retirement" all that the time and perform. Most are no where near the same level they once were, but certainly they don't embarrass themselves either.

The guy will get picked up by somebody somewhere. If for nothing else, as a publicity stunt to draw in bigger crowds just because of the same curiosity sparked in this thread. People will indeed pay money to see "Vick's return", even if he throws 5 interceptions and doesn't gain a yard. He's famous like that. He fills seats. That's really all whomever gets him cares about. Look at T.O. The guy is bafoon, but he fills seats and his bank account because of it. Vick will be no different IF he wants to play again.

[HalfBaked]

Maybe he'll get shived in prison.

[HalfBaked]

Look at T.O. The guy is bafoon, but he fills seats and his bank account because of it. Vick will be no different IF he wants to play again.

TO has never brutally killed dogs though.

[Jaimecbr900]

TO has never brutally killed dogs though.

Dang it Matt, I was trying to make a point and you come using facts and stuff.....:tongue1: :D

T.O. is an a-s-s, but he draws big money because he draws big crowds. Vick is the same. He's a-s-s, but he will one day (even if it's out of morbid curiosity) draw a crowd again. If I was a team that wasn't having sold out games all the time, I'd pick him up (he'll probably not demand anywhere near the same money when he's fresh out of jail too) and use him to fill some seats even if it's short lived. Sign him on a yr contract. If he doesn't make your money back, release him and call it a day. :goodjob:

[badboi706]

Sh!t is bs....like i said before it wasn't like he was fighting a poodle against a pit bull....those dogs are meant to fight....and americans just love their pets to much dumb @ss americans I eat that sh!t back home....

[Jaimecbr900]

Sh!t is bs....like i said before it wasn't like he was fighting a poodle against a pit bull....those dogs are meant to fight....and americans just love their pets to much dumb @ss americans I eat that sh!t back home....

Which probably explains your eloquent and well thought out post.....:rolleyes:

[XLR8NMR2]

Yeah son i eat puppies for breakfast!

[HalfBaked]

Sh!t is bs....like i said before it wasn't like he was fighting a poodle against a pit bull....those dogs are meant to fight....and americans just love their pets to much dumb @ss americans I eat that sh!t back home....
We are all now dumber for reading your post. I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.

[HalfBaked]

Yeah son i eat puppies for breakfast!
I EAT THAT **** FOR BREAKFAST LUNCH AND DINNER!

[Echonova]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/dognolaughingmatter-mark.jpg

[XLR8NMR2]

Vick will play again and the whichever teams that picks him up will make a fortune off his return and not to mention all the endorsement deals he will pick up again.....

the falcons will be dumb for not picking him up again because most of his loyal fans are in atlanta and they are the ones that will pay all the money for tickets and jerseys and what not.

I think miami will pick him up...he did buy a condo in southbeach so i guess we'll see what happens over time.

[HalfBaked]

Who would endorse Vick after he gets out of jail?

Hell Kobe still doesn't have all of the sponsors he had before he raped that girl.

[XLR8NMR2]

he had a deal with rebook i believe so it's up to nike,adidas,converse, **** maybe even vans will pick him up.

But vick probably has so much money lying around he could make his own shoe/shirt brand

[HalfBaked]

Don't forget that he failed the drug test in september. Of course that is going to make the sentence a bit stiffer, also one of the other guys Vick was convicted with got the same sentence.

[XLR8NMR2]

Falcons monday night football tonight.....

i will be out and about with my vick jersey on! W00t

[BB6dohcvtec]

how will he get out before 23 months? he already gave up his right to appeal in the plea bargain. and how can you say he'll play again after being out of the nfl for a minimum of 3 years? there are better athletes out there that are coming up and who will show more respect off the field. not attacking you just find it hard to believe. but yes, once he is done serving his time, it should be over with, although it will never be

easy because its the fed prison he has to serve at least 85% i think and the last month of the sentence will be served in a halfway house and he was already in jail for almost a month voluntarily. so he will more than likely be out in 19-20months and that not including if they give him good behavior release, which could drop it town to 18months. and he will play in the NFL again. I will GUARANTEE that.

[fucksohc]

should have gotten longer...

[GSRteg®]

23 months that all huh.

[Elbow]

Vick got owned hahaha

[GSRteg®]

Vick got owned hahaha

x2 yea, but he would have serve more than that if he didnt have money. :yes:

[Kelly]

Are you retarted??? ^^^

[XLR8NMR2]

oooOOOOOOooooOOOOoooo

[sshonda2004]

ok did i say that what he did was ok, no you dog humping ******.
you're so ignorant if you think that...how can you be so uneducated and make a statement like that? how are the things he did justifiable just because of the types of dogs they were....

[sshonda2004]

and you sir, are a *****
LOL

He was charged with 'conspiring to commit felonies across state lines'. He got off easy for what he did. You sir, are a shame.

[sshonda2004]

all im saying is that theres so much more going on in the world for people to keep getting so emotional about this, theres been plenty of times where pitbulls have mauled children to death, and nobody gives a damn. all this dog worshiping mess is rediculous.

[redrumracer]

i hope i never see anybody get less than twice that for killing somebody. all he did was kill someones food in another country

[tatodotcom]

dang, that doesnt seem right, over some damn dogs thats breed to fight, shame shame.

i believe thats what you said...honestly, i could care less about dogs, but if you don't think he deserves his sentence, then i think you're retarded. if you meant to say what you said in your later post, then say it. you never mentioned that and all we had was this quote, which makes you sound ignorant and stupid.

[Spectic Tank]

and you sir, are a *****

What an excellent comback...I would expect nothing less from someone of your mental capacity.

Do you even read news article's or even the summary of what you are talking about? You come in here saying "Damn, he got 23 months over fighting some damn dogs?!". Get your head out of your ass...He was charged with conspiring to commit felonies across state lines, which is a violation of the RICOH act. He didn't get 23 months for fighting dogs.

Everybody knows that there are more important things than dog fighting going on in the world...that doesn't mean he is forgiven for what he's done or that it makes what he's done any less illegal.

Learn how to come up with an actual argument instead of calling everyone that disagrees with you a *****.

[Schugg]

good hope he gets it up the ass

[nreggie454]

all im saying is that theres so much more going on in the world for people to keep getting so emotional about this, theres been plenty of times where pitbulls have mauled children to death, and nobody gives a damn. all this dog worshiping mess is rediculous.

So you are saying that since there are worse things going on in the world, that Vick shouldn't get punished?

Using that logic....

I can go to your house and steal your car, since there are people out there that kill people and blow up cars. Not to mention cars kill people when they hit them. I would only have to deal with those emotional car worsippers then.


If you keep making excuses based on the fact that "worse things happen in the world all the time," then you can excuse any crime short of murder and rape. Just because worse things happen all the time does not make Vick's actions OK, it just makes you ignorant for thinking so.

By the way, way to triple post, oh mighty Drift King.

[sshonda2004]

lol i really dont give a **** about what any of you ass wipes gotta say to me,or think of me,IA is not my life and when it comes down to it, you and all your snobbish i think im sooo smart and sophisticated comments dont meen **** to me.

[nreggie454]

ig·no·rant (ĭg'nər-ənt) Pronunciation Key
adj.

1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.
4. sshonda2004

[sshonda2004]

i dont recall calling anyone else a *****, except for you.
What an excellent comback...I would expect nothing less from someone of your mental capacity.

Do you even read news article's or even the summary of what you are talking about? You come in here saying "Damn, he got 23 months over fighting some damn dogs?!". Get your head out of your ass...He was charged with conspiring to commit felonies across state lines, which is a violation of the RICOH act. He didn't get 23 months for fighting dogs.

Everybody knows that there are more important things than dog fighting going on in the world...that doesn't mean he is forgiven for what he's done or that it makes what he's done any less illegal.

Learn how to come up with an actual argument instead of calling everyone that disagrees with you a *****.

[sshonda2004]

lol uh yea cute :umno:, you must dont have much of a life do you?
ig·no·rant (ĭg'nər-ənt) Pronunciation Key
adj.

1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.
4. sshonda2004

[lxatlantaxl]

i saw michael vick at mcdonalds we went to this plaza to smoke and we saw him there buyin somethin and got that brown paper bag then he littered and threw his mcdonalds bag in the parkin lot and drove off in his mercedez and white 1...

TRUE STORY

[OneSlow5pt0]

he should have gotten more time....i just hope he gets banned from nfl

[lxatlantaxl]

HES A *****!

[fucksohc]

he should have gotten more time....i just hope he gets banned from nfl

X2
i agree sir!

[Vteckidd]

Dang it Matt, I was trying to make a point and you come using facts and stuff.....:tongue1: :D

T.O. is an a-s-s, but he draws big money because he draws big crowds. Vick is the same. He's a-s-s, but he will one day (even if it's out of morbid curiosity) draw a crowd again. If I was a team that wasn't having sold out games all the time, I'd pick him up (he'll probably not demand anywhere near the same money when he's fresh out of jail too) and use him to fill some seats even if it's short lived. Sign him on a yr contract. If he doesn't make your money back, release him and call it a day. :goodjob:
Mike Tyson comes to mind.

People were willing to shell out $50-65 on pay per view JUST TO SEE HIM FIGHT THE bOTTOM OF THE BARREL.

Vick WILL play again, in some capacity. Like Jaime said, his RETURN game will be enough to justify paying him the league minimum

[hondachik]

ehh @ just 23 mths...wtf

[Spectic Tank]

i dont recall calling anyone else a *****, except for you.

Because you're obviously incapable of coming up with an intellegent arguement, so all you can do is resort to personal attacks against people you have never even met...Keep that up, maybe you can make it assistant manager at whatever fast food restaurant you chose as your future career.

Then you follow it up with some emo post about how none of us matter to you and you don't care about us. THEN you continue to post more of your mindless babble that only continues to prove to everyone that you really are as ignorant as your initial post.

Excellent work sir:goodjob:

[Spectic Tank]

ig·no·rant (ĭg'nər-ənt) Pronunciation Key
adj.

1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.
4. sshonda2004

You must spread some reputation before giving to nreggie454 again.

[cactusEG]

will he ever play foot ball again?

I heard that he was suppose to get 18months but the judge bumped it up. His lawyers also made him turn in early so that he could play in the start of 2010...

[quickdodge®]

I heard that he was suppose to get 18months but the judge bumped it up. His lawyers also made him turn in early so that he could play in the start of 2010...

You should just stick to looking stupid. That way, no one(aside from the rest of IA) will actually know you are. Quit posting up what you heard all the time. It's usually wrong. Later, QD.

[sshonda2004]

lol i hear that x2
Sh!t is bs....like i said before it wasn't like he was fighting a poodle against a pit bull....those dogs are meant to fight....and americans just love their pets to much dumb @ss americans I eat that sh!t back home....

[sshonda2004]

****in snob, you dont even know me, and sorry i didnt have time to work at a fastfood joint, i was too busy working on my degree. and obviously i matter to you, because your making your posts about me instead of the topic of the thread.
Because you're obviously incapable of coming up with an intellegent arguement, so all you can do is resort to personal attacks against people you have never even met...Keep that up, maybe you can make it assistant manager at whatever fast food restaurant you chose as your future career.

Then you follow it up with some emo post about how none of us matter to you and you don't care about us. THEN you continue to post more of your mindless babble that only continues to prove to everyone that you really are as ignorant as your initial post.

Excellent work sir:goodjob:

[quickdodge®]

i dont recall calling anyone else a *****, except for you.

Nope. You're the one. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

****in snob, trust me, me and my family got more than you will ever have

The people that brag about what they have...usually don't have. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

..those dogs are meant to fight.....

Yea and along those same absurd thinking lines, black people are meant to be slaves. Later, QD.

[Kelly]

LOL QD.

Did anyone watch the game last night? A few players had MV7 painted on their face.
It was kinda sad. He is still a friend to some of them, no matter how stupid he was.

[VIP Style]

I really feel like 23months was to harsh for the crime, and considering he was a first time offender. just doesnt seem right.

[quickdodge®]

I really feel like 23months was to harsh for the crime, and considering he was a first time offender. just doesnt seem right.

Who cares? Lolol. I'm sure the justice system failed since Vick is black. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

Did anyone watch the game last night?

Lolol. It was Saints/Falcons. Who do you think watched it. I bet Lifetime Movie Network had a greater audience last night. Later, QD.

[Kelly]

:(

I hate the Saints.

[1000cckiller]

Mike Tyson comes to mind.

People were willing to shell out $50-65 on pay per view JUST TO SEE HIM FIGHT THE bOTTOM OF THE BARREL.

Vick WILL play again, in some capacity. Like Jaime said, his RETURN game will be enough to justify paying him the league minimumeveryone said the same about Kobe. Now he laughs all the way to the bank.

[chris13]

**** Vick i have 2 pitts that would love for him to try and throw them against a wall

[chris13]

Yea and along those same absurd thinking lines, black people are meant to be slaves. Later, QD.

+1

[VIP Style]

lol like you said QD, "usually", not always.
The people that brag about what they have...usually don't have. Later, QD.

[VIP Style]

lol yep, he got screwed cause he is black. im pulling the race card like a motha on this one, LOL! but seriously. It's about him being buried in the public eye. Yes, he did something wrong. He deserves his punishment. But if he's paying the consequences, why do we keep covering him in double jeopardy with additional burdens. I hate to sound like I'm supporting Michaels actions (which i'm not) but I'm just saying that he's paying his price. Stop asking for his head.
Who cares? Lolol. I'm sure the justice system failed since Vick is black. Later, QD.

[Mr.Big]

Yea and along those same absurd thinking lines, black people are meant to be slaves. Later, QD.

No NO QD u on another level
Cause blacks are on this earth like whites are on this earth
Now those Pitbulls was mix to make

[quickdodge®]

No NO QD u on another level
Cause blacks are on this earth like whites are on this earth
Now those Pitbulls was mix to make

Nope. I'm quite sure I'm on the same level. Later, QD.

[Mr.Big]

Nope. I'm quite sure I'm on the same level. Later, QD.

NAw u aint

[quickdodge®]

Whatever you say. Not sure what your thought processes go through during formation, but whatever gets you through the day. Whatever you're trying to "point out" isn't coming in on the MakeSense train. Later, QD.

[Jaimecbr900]

Nice thread. It is chock full of idiots that have no clue if they're a foot or horseback, let alone have a semi-intelligent opinion on any subject matter.

Gleaming examples:



Sh!t is bs....like i said before it wasn't like he was fighting a poodle against a pit bull....those dogs are meant to fight....and americans just love their pets to much dumb @ss americans I eat that sh!t back home....


This is no different from back in the days when slavery was around and they killed off the black people that couldn't work or they had a weak bloodline. OH! wait the white man didn't have that law in effect yet then huh.....so it was ok.....big deal he killed a few dogs that couldn't fight anyways why wastes food if you can't get your job done????? if you put pits on the street they are going to kill each other anyways they are game dogs and they have a killing motive....

You are the epitome of both ignorance and lack of communication skills. So in your little mind, dogs are meant to be fought......eaten....and are no different than BLACK people???? Wow, what a brilliant and complex mind you possess. I'm sure your parents are mighty proud and have all your finger paintings still up on their refrigerator where they keep the carcasses of dead dogs you so fancy and find delightfully yummy. :rolleyes:

Two choices for you sir: School or Lobotomy. Those are the only two ways to improve your lack of intelligence. Pick one, I don't care which, and then become a productive member of society. Until then, you are taking up space and wasting good oxygen other people need.



i hope i never see anybody get less than twice that for killing somebody. all he did was kill someones food in another country

Really? I bet you wouldn't say that if that "food" was your beloved Sarah Lee or Snoopie. :rolleyes:



lol i really dont give a **** about what any of you ass wipes gotta say to me,or think of me,IA is not my life and when it comes down to it, you and all your snobbish i think im sooo smart and sophisticated comments dont meen **** to me.


****in snob, you dont even know me, and sorry i didnt have time to work at a fastfood joint, i was too busy working on my degree. and obviously i matter to you, because your making your posts about me instead of the topic of the thread.

You like that word, "snob". Is it because it's the only word you can correctly spell? What "degree" do you have? I know it can't be an English degree.:lmfao: You must be friends with panda boy up there. Yall act like two peas in a very ignorant pod. I love it how when people get owned, they always use the same old tired lines of "well, well, IA is not my life so there..." :gay:

For somebody that likes the word "snob", you were really fast to try and show off what mommy and daddy have......:rolleyes: Again, very :gay: of you.



Please, if you are going to try and defend your viewpoint.....atleast multi-task and use dictionary.com, google, or some other form of reference source. All of you have confirmed by your ridiculous posts what some of us have suspected for a long time.

Any questions? Let me know. ;)

[XLR8NMR2]

what i don't understand to add to that nature vs nurture debate is, How come these peta mother****ers make such a big deal about dogs getting killed when we as humans slaughter and kill thousands of animals for sport (hunting,fishing,pride). it's in the same context, you and your buddies grabbing a case of beer and some shotguns and heading to the mountains for some deer hunting and choping their heads off as some mantle or something in there basements.

How come hunters that kill for sport get overlooked by animal activist and americans.

What i also don't understand is the same organization that tries to ban the breeding and sales of pitbulls in all 50 states is the same group that wants vicks head...it's all one big contradiction and it's not right

FREE VICK

[Kelly]

It is to be eaten! Not someones pet! Mark, I wish we had him on the team but dog fighting isn't the same as hunting! Deer get a shot to the head or heart, not thrown into the ground, drown, hung, etc... I guess you think eating a steak or piece of grilled chicken is inhumane too? :rolleyes: Come on... Don't be ignorant.

[XLR8NMR2]

It is to be eaten! Not someones pet! Mark, I wish we had him on the team but dog fighting isn't the same as hunting! Deer get a shot to the head or heart, not thrown into the ground, drown, hung, etc... I guess you think eating a steak or piece of grilled chicken is inhumane too? :rolleyes: Come on... Don't be ignorant.


are you calling me a NAGGER?

FU WHITEY!!!

[XLR8NMR2]

**** IT I'M THROWING IN THE RACE CARD

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v363/Xlr8nMr2/Race_Card1.jpg

[Kelly]

**** IT I'M THROWING IN THE RACE CARD

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v363/Xlr8nMr2/Race_Card1.jpg


http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/sammyp3003/Vickflippingthabird.jpg

[tony]

I got a response but not in a position to type it out right now, i'll do it when I get home. In a nutshell, punishment does not fit the crime and JAIL TIME is not the only way to punish someone.. I'll explain later.

[Jaimecbr900]

There is a huge difference between hunting and dog fighting.


Hunters EAT their prey.
Dog fighters don't.

Hunters PAY to be licensed.
Dog fighters don't.

Hunters PAY to preserve wildlife habitats.
Dog fighters don't.

Hunters control WILD animal populations.
Dog fighters don't.

Hunters don't hunt for money.
Dog fighters do.

Hunters don't purposely injure their prey and stand around and watch it, cheer it on, or even bet to see when it's going to die.
Dog fighters do.

Finally, and most importantly:

Hunting is LEGAL.
Dog fighting is not.

I've said it before and I'll say it again; In other cultures and countries, women are possessions and not human. In other countries and cultures, children are literally owned by their parents and even given away LEGALLY. In other countries and cultures, people get their hands chopped off or stoned to death or put in front of a firing squad as forms of punishment. In other countries and cultures, it is customary to marry your kin or have sex with them.

Does that mean it's "ok" to do here? Why not? Why can't someone from that part of the world walk up to YOUR sister or mother and slap her across the face for "disrespecting" them? Why can't someone have sex with your minor sister and justify it by saying it's ok in "their country"?

Every single criminal will find some BS sob story to justify their crime(s). Doesn't change the FACT that they still committed a crime, now does it? So in the end, you can justify all the things you do wrong, yet it doesn't make them any more "right". Get it? ;)

[Kelly]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Jaimecbr900 again.

[Jaimecbr900]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Jaimecbr900 again.

You want me, don't you???? :D

[Kelly]

I do feel like he is doing what he has to do though, and we need to move on.

It's America, everyone deserves a second chance...

[Kelly]

You want me, don't you???? :D


:ninja:

[Clegger]

I think im gonna go do something illegal

And then when I get caught I hope I get a bunch of support from people saying how what I did wasn't really that bad anyways

And then when I get convicted for doing something illegal I hope I get support from people saying to let me go free as if what I did wasn't illegal

That would be awesome

[XLR8NMR2]

I think im gonna go do something illegal

And then when I get caught I hope I get a bunch of support from people saying how what I did wasn't really that bad anyways

And then when I get convicted for doing something illegal I hope I get support from people saying to let me go free as if what I did wasn't illegal

That would be awesome

happens all the time.

welcome to america.

[OneSlow5pt0]

should have gotten the 5 years...........as long as he never plays another down in the nfl..he doesnt deserve to wear a NFL jersey....he doesnt even deserve to be a human being

[EJ25RUN]

not important!

[quickdodge®]

REPS! to all those who are glad to see the justice system doing their job. Later, QD.

[tony]

I think im gonna go do something illegal

And then when I get caught I hope I get a bunch of support from people saying how what I did wasn't really that bad anyways

And then when I get convicted for doing something illegal I hope I get support from people saying to let me go free as if what I did wasn't illegal

That would be awesome

Tell me this, is the justice system close to perfect?

[nreggie454]

Tell me this, is the justice system close to perfect?

Tell me this, does it help the justice system if you choose not to punish someone for their actions, when they are clearly defined as illegal? What if he is a good football player?

[tony]

Tell me this, does it help the justice system if you choose not to punish someone for their actions, when they are clearly defined as illegal? What if he is a good football player?


Was it really clearly defined? This became a felony 7 days before they searched Vicks house so no.. up to 5 years was not clearly defined when the acts were committed.

Is it right that a man can pay for child porn, get caught and never see jail time but someone who does provide a service to the community is locked away for 2 years for paying for a crime that is arguable just as heinous? I'm not going to argue right or wrong here but I will argue the crime and the punishment.

[Jaimecbr900]

REPS! to all those who are glad to see the justice system doing their job. Later, QD.

Liar!!! I didn't get squat from you, never gotten squat from you, and frankly I'm a little hurt about that.


Now fix that, biotch!!! :D

[Mr.Big]

Whatever you say. Not sure what your thought processes go through during formation, but whatever gets you through the day. Whatever you're trying to "point out" isn't coming in on the MakeSense train. Later, QD.

Yea whatever
cause i can say the same bull**** u just said

[Clegger]

Was it really clearly defined? This became a felony 7 days before they searched Vicks house so no.. up to 5 years was not clearly defined when the acts were committed.

Is it right that a man can pay for child porn, get caught and never see jail time but someone who does provide a service to the community is locked away for 2 years for paying for a crime that is arguable just as heinous? I'm not going to argue right or wrong here but I will argue the crime and the punishment.

are you relating child porn and dog fighting as being similar crimes?

what kind of porn do you watch man, holy ****.

If Oprah gets convicted of child molestation are you saying that because she offers a service to the communtiy she doesnt deserve the full sentence?

[ShooterMcGavin]

well, the dumbass got what he deserved. wonder how the virginia trial is gonna go.

[Jaimecbr900]

****in snob, you dont even know me, and sorry i didnt have time to work at a fastfood joint, i was too busy working on my degree. and obviously i matter to you, because your making your posts about me instead of the topic of the thread.

Did I hurt your little e-feelings? Are you butt hurt? Does the realization that you're a tool upset you? Too bad.

Did you know that your reps are as worthless as you are? Probably thought, much like life, that you would accomplish something. You were wrong yet again. Good try retard. :2up:

Instead of wasting your time with me, maybe you should go get mommy and daddy's money back for your so called "degree". :rolleyes: Ironically enough, the only one who's reps went backwards was you. Funny how that works. :lmfao:

[ShooterMcGavin]

damn, jaime goin off on someone, that's kinda rare :D

[Alan®]

I doubt that there will be an opening for vick. lets face it vick was not that good to begin with it was all hype yes he was versitle probably ran the ball more than most QB's but he was not that great of a quarterback. I doubt that 2 years in prison plus possible year suspension on top of that will help his abilities. i think the only reason he got as much as he did was because he didnt roll over on people like he was supposed to

[TIGERJC]

Damn you guys act like he killed a person. What he did was wrong, but is really no different then what happens at a slaughter house. I dont think it is right that state is finally moving its feet on the dog fighting matter, especially right after the Feds came in and did state job for them. Vick will be back, more than likely as a running back after he beefs up in jail.

Jeez when did Ia turn into a safe haven for Peta members

[bigdare23]

Damn you guys act like he killed a person. What he did was wrong, but is really no different then what happens at a slaughter house. I dont think it is right that state is finally moving its feet on the dog fighting matter, especially right after the Feds came in and did state job for them. Vick will be back, more than likely as a running back after he beefs up in jail.

Jeez when did Ia turn into a safe haven for Peta members

reps to ya :goodjob:

[Deke]

Vick will be back, more than likely as a running back after he beefs up in jail.



What he should have been playing from the start.

[nreggie454]

Damn you guys act like he killed a person. What he did was wrong, but is really no different then what happens at a slaughter house. I dont think it is right that state is finally moving its feet on the dog fighting matter, especially right after the Feds came in and did state job for them. Vick will be back, more than likely as a running back after he beefs up in jail.

Jeez when did Ia turn into a safe haven for Peta members

The only similarity is that an animal dies in both situations. In a dogfight, the loser dies a painful and inhumane death and the winner (assuming he is still fairly OK) lives. The only "benefit" comes if you bet on the right dog. In a slaughterhouse, an animal dies in a much more humane fashion. However, slaughterhouse killings are worlds more humane and there are lots of benefits (food, leather, etc.). Oh yeah, slaughterhouse killings are also LEGAL.

IMO I wouldn't even consider hiring Vick if I were a team owner. This isn't Vick's first time to have legal trouble, and he sure showed a lot of responsibility by failing that drug test when he knew it was coming :rolleyes:.

[TIGERJC]

The only similarity is that an animal dies in both situations. In a dogfight, the loser dies a painful and inhumane death and the winner (assuming he is still fairly OK) lives. The only "benefit" comes if you bet on the right dog. In a slaughterhouse, an animal dies in a much more humane fashion. :lmfao: :lmfao: I guess you don't know how some slaughterhouses prepare Kosher meat? They bleed out the animal basically, they slit the animals throat and the animals drowns in its own blood as it's lungs fill with blood. :D Thats good eating

since you think slaughter houses are more humane, here u go - http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/archive.asp

http://www.petatv.com/veg.html

take your pick


However, slaughterhouse killings are worlds more humane and there are lots of benefits (food, leather, etc.). Oh yeah, slaughterhouse killings are also LEGAL.
If the government could tax it, then it would be legal.

Those dogs are raised just like cattle in almost every way and they both face the same faith, except the dog has some control over its destiny

Make the dumb animal earn its way :devil:

Ps I still think it is wrong to dog fight, but it really as bad as other things in this country. Should have just fine the **** out of him

[quickdodge®]

Yea whatever
cause i can say the same bull**** u just said

You can, but it won't have the same effect. What I said made perfect sense. Yours didn't. You're trying to word your side into something that fits what you want to believe in. Later, QD.

[TIGERJC]

You can, but it won't have the same effect. What I said made perfect sense. Yours didn't. You're trying to word your side into something that fits what you want to believe in. Later, QD.
Why are you up? Did the Viagra finally kick in? Sorry that your wife already went to bed, I think that might have to do with you being on IA :D

[quickdodge®]

Just got home from work. Later, QD.

[TIGERJC]

Just got home from work. Later, QD.
damn, but I know you do this :D when you see your check

[quickdodge®]

Lolol. It is nice. Later, QD.

[sshonda2004]

he was a excellent QB, when your receivers drop all the damn balls of course that makes you look bad. vick was what future QB's needed to be able to do, get out of the pocket when it breaks down, and be able to escape defensive backs for some yards. if brady didnt have that good O-line, he would not be as good as he looks. defenses are getting faster by the season, and all that traditional drop back pass technique is not going to cut it.
Damn you guys act like he killed a person. What he did was wrong, but is really no different then what happens at a slaughter house. I dont think it is right that state is finally moving its feet on the dog fighting matter, especially right after the Feds came in and did state job for them. Vick will be back, more than likely as a running back after he beefs up in jail.

Jeez when did Ia turn into a safe haven for Peta members

[VIP Style]

oh my goodness is all this necessary? I think its pretty absent-minded to be trying to measure someones capabilities just over some comment they posted over the internet:no:, you have know idea what kind of people your trying to put down, and they could be just as brilliant as you think you are
Nice thread. It is chock full of idiots that have no clue if they're a foot or horseback, let alone have a semi-intelligent opinion on any subject matter.

Gleaming examples:






You are the epitome of both ignorance and lack of communication skills. So in your little mind, dogs are meant to be fought......eaten....and are no different than BLACK people???? Wow, what a brilliant and complex mind you possess. I'm sure your parents are mighty proud and have all your finger paintings still up on their refrigerator where they keep the carcasses of dead dogs you so fancy and find delightfully yummy. :rolleyes:

Two choices for you sir: School or Lobotomy. Those are the only two ways to improve your lack of intelligence. Pick one, I don't care which, and then become a productive member of society. Until then, you are taking up space and wasting good oxygen other people need.




Really? I bet you wouldn't say that if that "food" was your beloved Sarah Lee or Snoopie. :rolleyes:






You like that word, "snob". Is it because it's the only word you can correctly spell? What "degree" do you have? I know it can't be an English degree.:lmfao: You must be friends with panda boy up there. Yall act like two peas in a very ignorant pod. I love it how when people get owned, they always use the same old tired lines of "well, well, IA is not my life so there..." :gay:

For somebody that likes the word "snob", you were really fast to try and show off what mommy and daddy have......:rolleyes: Again, very :gay: of you.



Please, if you are going to try and defend your viewpoint.....atleast multi-task and use dictionary.com, google, or some other form of reference source. All of you have confirmed by your ridiculous posts what some of us have suspected for a long time.

Any questions? Let me know. ;)

[Spectic Tank]

Damn you guys act like he killed a person. What he did was wrong, but is really no different then what happens at a slaughter house. I dont think it is right that state is finally moving its feet on the dog fighting matter, especially right after the Feds came in and did state job for them. Vick will be back, more than likely as a running back after he beefs up in jail.

Jeez when did Ia turn into a safe haven for Peta members

WTF are you talking about? If he killed a person he would be serving 25 to Life...NOT 23 months.

Slaughter house = Legal

Dog fighting = Illegal, and then when you start taking it across state lines it becomes a felony

It doesn't matter if you think dog fighting isn't any different than a slaughter house(which isn't a good argument anyway). The facts are it is illegal. I think smoking pot should be legal, but if I got caught with it (especially going across state lines) I would damn sure expect jail time.

[Spectic Tank]

he was a excellent QB

:lmfao:

[Jaimecbr900]

oh my goodness is all this necessary? I think its pretty absent-minded to be trying to measure someones capabilities just over some comment they posted over the internet:no:, you have know idea what kind of people your trying to put down, and they could be just as brilliant as you think you are

Let me ask you a question: Are you his butt buddy or just his mouth piece??? OHHH, wait......neither of you are smart enough to figure out that I can SEE ALL the posts even when you TRY TO DELETE THEM.......;)

Hmmmm, so let's take a look at something, shall we?

This was posted and then quickly "deleted" allegedly by your boyfriend the drift queen:


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oh my goodness is all this necessary? I think its pretty absent-minded to be trying to measure someones capabilities just over some comment they posted over the internet:no:, you have know idea what kind of people your trying to put down, and they could be just as brilliant as you think you are.




Hmmmmm, wow......that looks quite familiar. Maybe you have the few necessary brain cells to figure out HOW that similarity happens. Same IP, same comment, only a short time apart......HMMMMM. So either yall paused your intimate activities long enough to post the SAME POST on the same computer or maybe yall is not yall at all. Which is it? Let me know or I'll make the decision all on my own and take care of it.

Time's ticking......if you don't answer, I'll be happy to ban you both. Do you still feel all smart inside??? :rolleyes:

[Jblizzard]

OJ Simpson kills a white woman and walks away, Koby rapes a white woman and walks away, Micheal Vick kills a dog and now he's doin time.

[Jaimecbr900]

OJ Simpson kills a white woman and walks away, Koby rapes a white woman and walks away, Micheal Vick kills a dog and now he's doin time.

Point?

[1000cckiller]

Because this is America. Where your 23 month sentence doesn't mean 23 months. It means maybe 1/2 that on a good day and bad lawyering.

He'll probably get out in somewhere between 12-18 mos. Watch and see.



Because the guy is not going to forget, not that he ever knew how:doh: , how to throw a ball or run just because he's in jail. He'll be really rusty and no where near top shape, but he's not going to suddenly become some kind of couch potato either. The guy is or atleast was an athlete. A very good athlete at that. He's not too old. There have been many athletes that come out of "retirement" all that the time and perform. Most are no where near the same level they once were, but certainly they don't embarrass themselves either.

The guy will get picked up by somebody somewhere. If for nothing else, as a publicity stunt to draw in bigger crowds just because of the same curiosity sparked in this thread. People will indeed pay money to see "Vick's return", even if he throws 5 interceptions and doesn't gain a yard. He's famous like that. He fills seats. That's really all whomever gets him cares about. Look at T.O. The guy is bafoon, but he fills seats and his bank account because of it. Vick will be no different IF he wants to play again.keep my boys name out ya mouth

[Spectic Tank]

OJ Simpson kills a white woman and walks away, Koby rapes a white woman and walks away, Micheal Vick kills a dog and now he's doin time.

O.J.= Not guilty in criminal court. charged in civil court and found guilty, had to pay 30 something million to the family. Not necessarily 'walking away'.

Kobe= Never convincted, why would you serve jail time for a crime you weren't convicted of?

Vick= Convicted, and got less than half the maximum sentence.


And do you people defending vick even read? HE WAS CHARGED WITH CONSPIRING TO COMMIT FELONIES ACROSS STATE LINES. So, stop saying he just 'fought some dogs'...because he didnt just fight them he bankrolled a kennel that fought dogs all over the country and sold dogs to dog fighters all over the country. If you smoke some pot and get busted the charges AREN'T as serioous as if you are growing and trafficing it all over the country.

[1000cckiller]

O.J.= Not guilty in criminal court. charged in civil court and found guilty, had to pay 30 something million to the family. Not necessarily 'walking away'.

Kobe= Never convincted, why would you serve jail time for a crime you weren't convicted of?

Vick= Convicted, and got less than half the maximum sentence.


And do you people defending vick even read? HE WAS CHARGED WITH CONSPIRING TO COMMIT FELONIES ACROSS STATE LINES. So, stop saying he just 'fought some dogs'...because he didnt just fight them he bankrolled a kennel that fought dogs all over the country and sold dogs to dog fighters all over the country. If you smoke some pot and get busted the charges AREN'T as serioous as if you are growing and trafficing it all over the country.OJ hasn't paid them one cent.

[Spectic Tank]

OJ hasn't paid them one cent.

Yea he has, he was ordered to sell almost everything he owned(including his heisman trophy) and all that went to the family. Not to mention they got the royalties to his book. He hasn't paid NEARLY what he should, but he has paid some.

I mean they got the court to order him to give them his Rolex! But, it was fake so they had to give it back...lol

[1000cckiller]

Yea he has, he was ordered to sell almost everything he owned(including his heisman trophy) and all that went to the family. Not to mention they got the royalties to his book. He hasn't paid NEARLY what he should, but he has paid some.

I mean they got the court to order him to give them his Rolex! But, it was fake so they had to give it back...lolLATEST: A Los Angeles judge has ordered OJ SIMPSON to pay any income he received from past work, including movies, television and commercials, directly to the family of murder victim RON GOLDMAN. Superior Court Judge GERALD ROSENBERG made his ruling on the royalties yesterday (20FEB07), but rejected the family's bid to collect Simpson's earnings on future projects. The former US football star was acquitted in October 2005 of murder charges in the 12 June 1994 slayings of his ex-wife NICOLE BROWN SIMPSON and Goldman. A civil court later held him liable for the murders in a wrongful death lawsuit and ordered him to pay $35.5 million (GBP18 million), which has largely remained unpaid. Simpson's attorney, YALE GALANTER, claims royalties Simpson received from past work on films such as the NAKED GUN movies amount to almost nothing. He explains, "Last year Simpson's royalty checks from all of his movies were less than 39 cents. They got kicked to the curb again. Every door they're banging on gets slammed." Goldman's attorney, DAVID J COOK, insists the ruling on past royalties was a step in the right direction, adding, "We presume there is money and we're not going to take their word for it." The judge deferred ruling on a third request by the Goldmans to collect any advance money Simpson may have received for the book and TV show IF I DID IT, in which Simpson explains how he might have committed the murders. The book was abandoned after a public backlash and Simpson claims he has already spent the advance he received for the project. A hearing on the matter has been scheduled for 13 March (07).



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[1000cckiller]

Understand, at least 80% of civil court rulings go unpaid.

[Spectic Tank]

Understand, at least 80% of civil court rulings go unpaid.

I understand, but you said he hasn't paid a cent. Which is untrue.

And my original point was not really that he got punished for what he did. The person I quoted said he "killed a woman and walked away". I was just saying he didn't really 'walk away', there was some form of punishment.

[1000cckiller]

I understand, but you said he hasn't paid a cent. Which is untrue.

And my original point was not really that he got punished for what he did. The person I quoted said he "killed a woman and walked away". I was just saying he didn't really 'walk away', there was some form of punishment. hh really hasn't been punished when you think about it, he still balls out of control and they cant touch his NFL pension. The dude golfs everyday, and he killed two people. Now that is ironic.

[Spectic Tank]

hh really hasn't been punished when you think about it, he still balls out of control and they cant touch his NFL pension. The dude golfs everyday, and he killed two people. Now that is ironic.

either way...

He didn't just kill her and walk away. That was my point.

[nreggie454]

I don't see why Michael Vick shouldn't get punished because the dudes handled evidence badly in the case against OJ (and Johnnie Cochran could argue his way out of Hell).

Also, I bet Kobe did as much raping of that white girl as the Duke lacrosse team did on that money grubbing hooker.

Vick still broke the law, and he deserves his punishment.

[EJ25RUN]

Did you expect more for fighting some damn dogs?

Actually....yes much more.



























much much much more!

[Glides]

not me...let em fight..let em pay...

where i'm from u dont work u dont eat..the dogs were just getting their food the way we do..they just went to work..like meriweather...

Yea, because you fight every day to eat. So by your reasoning and wonderful logic, if you fail to perform your job, you boss is free to shock you and hang you to death?

Some people make me wonder.

[Glides]

OJ Simpson kills a white woman and walks away, Koby rapes a white woman and walks away, Micheal Vick kills a dog and now he's doin time.

Maybe if Vick killed a White dog, he might have walked too. :goodjob:

[1000cckiller]

Maybe if Vick killed a White dog, he might have walked too. :goodjob:lolol

[quickdodge®]

Point?

There's not one. This is his way of making sure we all know this is a racial issue and not a criminal issue. Which, it seems, would work in his favor if he would realize the overall scheme of it. A black man (allegedly kills a white woman--was acquitted so he didn't do it) and he "got away with it." Seems that would be a plus for the African American people. Same with Kobe. Also, people are quick to forget that Vick admitted guilt. There's always someone who wants to cry foul about something. Later, QD.

[bigdare23]

Yea he has, he was ordered to sell almost everything he owned(including his heisman trophy) and all that went to the family. Not to mention they got the royalties to his book. He hasn't paid NEARLY what he should, but he has paid some.

I mean they got the court to order him to give them his Rolex! But, it was fake so they had to give it back...lol


How do you figure? Didn't you post that the charges were dropped.


dropped charges = he wasn't proven guilty

So what should he be force to pay her family anything? :thinking:

[Spectic Tank]

How do you figure? Didn't you post that the charges were dropped.


dropped charges = he wasn't proven guilty

So what should he be force to pay her family anything? :thinking:

Huh?

He was acquited on criminal charges and CONVICTED on civil charges.

NO CHARGES WERE DROPPED

He has to pay because he was found guilty in a civil court. Does that clear it up for you?

[bigdare23]

Huh?

He was acquited on criminal charges and CONVICTED on civil charges.

NO CHARGES WERE DROPPED

He has to pay because he was found guilty in a civil court. Does that clear it up for you?


Honestly, that was just a form of double jeopardy that got by, by calling it "wrong full death."

:rolleyes:

Personally, I wouldn't pay them ****. Not like they earned any of it. They were just pissed that he go free.

[Spectic Tank]

Honestly, that was just a form of double jeopardy that got by, by calling it "wrong full death."

:rolleyes:

Personally, I wouldn't pay them ****. Not like they earned any of it. They were just pissed that he go free.

Do you have any idea what double jeopardy is? or even the basics of our court systems? Because if you did you would realize that it's not double jeopardy.

Well, if you don't wanna pay. You could spend your time in jail.

[bigdare23]

Do you have any idea what double jeopardy is? or even the basics of our court systems? Because if you did you would realize that it's not double jeopardy.

Well, if you don't wanna pay. You could spend your time in jail.

:doh:

I know what double jeopardy is.


Answer my question! Throw out the reason because he is force to. Why do you think OJ should pay her family anything for "wrongful death?"

[Jaimecbr900]

Let me ask you a question: Are you his butt buddy or just his mouth piece??? OHHH, wait......neither of you are smart enough to figure out that I can SEE ALL the posts even when you TRY TO DELETE THEM.......;)

Hmmmm, so let's take a look at something, shall we?

This was posted and then quickly "deleted" allegedly by your boyfriend the drift queen:


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oh my goodness is all this necessary? I think its pretty absent-minded to be trying to measure someones capabilities just over some comment they posted over the internet:no:, you have know idea what kind of people your trying to put down, and they could be just as brilliant as you think you are.




Hmmmmm, wow......that looks quite familiar. Maybe you have the few necessary brain cells to figure out HOW that similarity happens. Same IP, same comment, only a short time apart......HMMMMM. So either yall paused your intimate activities long enough to post the SAME POST on the same computer or maybe yall is not yall at all. Which is it? Let me know or I'll make the decision all on my own and take care of it.

Time's ticking......if you don't answer, I'll be happy to ban you both. Do you still feel all smart inside??? :rolleyes:

Quoted just in case someone forgot......:goodjob:

Cat still got one or "both" your tongues??? :rolleyes:

[Spectic Tank]

:doh:

I know what double jeopardy is.


Answer my question! Throw out the reason because he is force to. Why do you think OJ should pay her family anything for "wrongful death?"

Did you read post 179? if not here it is again:


Huh?

He was acquited on criminal charges and CONVICTED on civil charges.

NO CHARGES WERE DROPPED

He has to pay because he was found guilty in a civil court. Does that clear it up for you?

And just to clear up the double jeopardy argument:


Double jeopardy also does not attach if the later charge is civil rather than criminal in nature, which involves a different legal standard. Acquittal in a criminal case does not prevent the defendant from being the defendant in a civil suit relating to the same incident (though res judicata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Res_judicata) operates within the civil court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_law_%28common_law%29) system). For example, O.J. Simpson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O.J._Simpson) was acquitted of a double homicide in a California (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California) criminal prosecution, but lost a civil wrongful death claim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_death_claim) brought over the same victims.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_jeopardy

[Spectic Tank]

Throw out the reason because he is force to. Why do you think OJ should pay her family anything for "wrongful death?"

Because he was found quilty for her death, and should be held responsible. You can't serve jail time for a civil charge, so that was the only way they could punish him.

[bigdare23]

Because he was found quilty for her death, and should be held responsible. You can't serve jail time for a civil charge, so that was the only way they could punish him.

but he was found guilty on federal charges :thinking:


ohhhh okay, you made my point.



Double jeopardy is a procedural defense (and, in many countries such as the United States, Canada, Mexico, Japan and India, a constitutional right) which forbids that a defendant be tried twice for the same crime. At common law a defendant may plead autrefois acquit or autrefois convict (a peremptory plea); meaning the defendant has already been acquitted or convicted of the same offense. If this issue is raised, evidence will be placed before the court, which will normally rule as a preliminary matter whether the plea is substantiated, and if it so finds, the projected trial will be prevented from proceeding.

You can argue that one case is federal while the other is civil, but it's still an official form a double jeopardy. That's also proves how vengeful our society is. They were stuck on the fact that they "thought" OJ was the killer, they took him to court again on the same charges that he just beat, worded the charges differently, and tried to cash in on him. GAY

[Spectic Tank]

Quoted just in case someone forgot......:goodjob:

Cat still got one or "both" your tongues??? :rolleyes:

:lmfao:

Dude, stop bein such a snob...

[bigdare23]

Because he was found quilty for her death, and should be held responsible. You can't serve jail time for a civil charge, so that was the only way they could punish him.


And you didn't answer my question :screwy:

[bigdare23]

:lmfao:

Dude, stop bein such a snob...

That fits me perfectly :lmfao:

[Spectic Tank]

but he was found guilty on federal charges :thinking:


ohhhh okay, you made my point.




You can argue that one case is federal while the other is civil, but it's still an official form a double jeopardy. That's also proves how vengeful our society is. They were stuck on the fact that they "thought" OJ was the killer, they took him to court again on the same charges that he just beat, worded the charges differently, and tried to cash in on him. GAY

Dude he was aquited on criminal charges( A.K.A. NOT GUILTY) and then found guilty in civil court. The family didn't 'think' he was guilty, he was found guilty by a jury.

I saw your excellent copy and paste from wikipedia. But, did you read past that paragraph to the section title EXCEPTIONS?

If you do you will clearly see what I quoted in my above statemant which proves exactly why this is not double jeopardy.

This thread is not about OJ...If you can't understand our justice system then you can start a new thread about it.

[Spectic Tank]

And you didn't answer my question :screwy:

How in the hell does that not answer your question? you asked me why he should have to pay right? Because he was guilty and deserves some form of punishment. Since jail sentences can't be handed out in civil cases the only way to punish him is financially.

[bigdare23]

How in the hell does that not answer your question? you asked me why he should have to pay right? Because he was guilty and deserves some form of punishment. Since jail sentences can't be handed out in civil cases the only way to punish him is financially.


are you sure u did?


:doh:

I know what double jeopardy is.


Answer my question! Throw out the reason because he is force to. Why do you think OJ should pay her family anything for "wrongful death?"

I asked for your personal opinion, but you keep giving me this "because he was found guilty" reason. Also, if it's "double jeopardy" or not, suing someone because you think they are liable for a death that was already proven otherwise is stupid. :gay:

[Spectic Tank]

are you sure u did?



I asked for your personal opinion, but you keep giving me this "because he was found guilty" reason. Also, if it's "double jeopardy" or not, suing someone because you think they are liable for a death that was already proven otherwise is stupid. :gay:

Am I sure I what?

well once you read past "because he was found guilty", you will see the rest of the sentence that explains my personal opinion:


he deserves some form of punishment. Since jail sentences can't be handed out in civil cases the only way to punish him is financially.

He needs to punished for his crime.


They thought he was liable and so did the rest of the jury in the civil case. That's how our judicial system works man. Sorry if you don't agree with it, but Canada's not too far away...

[Jaimecbr900]

I asked for your personal opinion, but you keep giving me this "because he was found guilty" reason. Also, if it's "double jeopardy" or not, suing someone because you think they are liable for a death that was already proven otherwise is stupid. :gay:

Not my fight, but you're not understanding something.

The burden of PROOF is totally different between criminal and civil. In a criminal case, where your FREEDOM/LIFE is at stake, the burden of proof is much much higher than civil where only your wallet can get hurt. Personally, I'm glad that's how it is. You should need a ton MORE PROOF to put me in jail than to give me a fine. Don't you agree? Well, that's what happened to O.J. He had a hellva defense team, the prosecution screwed the pooch on their side of the table, and voila!!! O.J. walked. Not because he DIDN'T do it necessarily, but because the state failed to convince 12 people he did it beyond any doubt. Putting on a glove or a cap like they have the Ebola virus on them convinced SOME that he didn't do it. Good. But when he was tried in a CIVIL courtroom by the PARENTS, not the state, the jurors didn't have to be 100% sure, only 51% sure he was responsible. They did. That's why he lost, and that's why it's not double jeopardy.

[Spectic Tank]

^^I obviously wasn't getting the point across. Hopefully that will.

[ISAtlanta300]

Damn you guys act like he killed a person. What he did was wrong, but is really no different then what happens at a slaughter house.

I didn't know they fought cows at a slaughter house.. damn Imma need to go there and place me some bets....

[TIGERJC]

I didn't know they fought cows at a slaughter house.. damn Imma need to go there and place me some bets....
THEY SHOULD :D

Since you think dog fighting is so bad, you should stop eating meat and go save some fuc.king whales or something

[Jaimecbr900]

Since you think dog fighting is so bad, you should stop eating meat and go save some fuc.king whales or something

I'll bite......what exactly is "good" about dog fighting then?

[TIGERJC]

I'll bite......what exactly is "good" about dog fighting then?
nothing

Just pointing out this same type of cruelty is carried on a much bigger scale in totally legit way ever day. Since dog fighting pisses so many ppl off that much that they wish Vick should lose his freedom and career for 10 years, then these same people should also fight the meat industry the same way.

[Mr.Big]

I'll bite......what exactly is "good" about dog fighting then?

It aint right to fight dogs everybody knows that ****. We talk bout this ****
everytime somebody post **** bout vick

The animals yall should be bitchin bout should be animals
that are near extinction. People that hunt them for sport
and for braggin rights.

[Spectic Tank]

It aint right to fight dogs everybody knows that ****. We talk bout this ****
everytime somebody post **** bout vick

The animals yall should be bitchin bout should be animals
that are near extinction. People that hunt them for sport
and for braggin rights.

:???:

It's illegal to hunt endangered animals. Just like dogfighting, and I'm sure everyone here that agrees in Mike Vick's sentence would be happy to see someone get punished for killing an endangered species.

[Mr.Big]

:???:

It's illegal to hunt endangered animals. Just like dogfighting, and I'm sure everyone here that agrees in Mike Vick's sentence would be happy to see someone get punished for killing an endangered species.

See a damn dog aint endangered.
Us people made this line of animal

Endangered species are wild animals

[Glides]

nothing

Just pointing out this same type of cruelty is carried on a much bigger scale in totally legit way ever day. Since dog fighting pisses so many ppl off that much that they wish Vick should lose his freedom and career for 10 years, then these same people should also fight the meat industry the same way.

ACtually, you are dead wrong and stupid if you think that killing cows for food is the same as fighting dogs until they are either dead or almost dead, then killing the almost dead ones. Also if you think slaughtering cows is the same as hooking electrodes to a dogs nuts and frying him or hanging him because he won't fight then you my friend, are a fool.

Stick to the race thing, at least in that arguement a person can actually be ignorant and still have a leg to stand on.

[Spectic Tank]

See a damn dog aint endangered.
Us people made this line of animal

Endangered species are wild animals



You always say "that's what they were meant for" and that "people made them". People also made guns meant for killing, doesn't mean that it's legal just because we made it.

I guess my question is: What is your point?

[Mr.Big]

You always say "that's what they were meant for" and that "people made them". People also made guns meant for killing, doesn't mean that it's legal just because we made it.

I guess my question is: What is your point?




people with guns kill people
Yea see guns kill people ur right!!!
Guns where meant for war and killin each other(humans)


Every bloodline of dog was breed for a reasons right??

Pitbulls where meant to kill each other(dogfightin)
this bloodline has that drive when they taste blood

Thats my point

[1000cckiller]

ACtually, you are dead wrong and stupid if you think that killing cows for food is the same as fighting dogs until they are either dead or almost dead, then killing the almost dead ones. Also if you think slaughtering cows is the same as hooking electrodes to a dogs nuts and frying him or hanging him because he won't fight then you my friend, are a fool.

Stick to the race thing, at least in that arguement a person can actually be ignorant and still have a leg to stand on.I do agree with you to a point. But here in america there are inhumane things done to animals legally. like in bull riding and other things. Do you remember two weeks ago, the story about the foxes, we haven't heard anything else about it since. But we are in america where Vick can get 23 months for killing dogs, but your cocaine pusher can get a slap on the wrist.

[Spectic Tank]

Yea see guns kill people ur right!!!
Guns where meant for war and killin each other(humans)


Every bloodline of dog was breed for a reasons right??

Pitbulls where meant to kill each other(dogfightin)
this bloodline has that drive when they taste blood

Thats my point

Well, if that's your point. WAY TO STATE THE OBVIOUS.

What the hell does dogs being bred to fight have to do with Michael Vick. It doesn't make it any less illegal just because they were bred to fight. Just like it doesn't make it any less illegal when you shoot someone with a gun that was made to kill.

[Mr.Big]

Well, if that's your point. WAY TO STATE THE OBVIOUS.

What the hell does dogs being bred to fight have to do with Michael Vick. It doesn't make it any less illegal just because they were bred to fight. Just like it doesn't make it any less illegal when you shoot someone with a gun that was made to kill.

I hear u on somethings. Yes its **** up what vick did
But shootin someone is way
worst than fightin some dogs lets be real!!!

[Jaimecbr900]

Just pointing out this same type of cruelty is carried on a much bigger scale in totally legit way ever day.

Are you talking about a slaughter house? If so, that's totally different. We EAT what they kill there. It is a necessary evil, unless you're a canibal. The cows HAVE TO die BEFORE we could eat them, right? Just what part of the dog that loses a dog fight do YOU put on your plate? The only similarities between a slaughter house and a dog fighting ring is that there is death in both. That's it. One is for the benefit and consumption of the general public, while the other benefits noone but the winning dog owner. Not even in the same ballpark, my friend. Not even remotely close.



Since dog fighting pisses so many ppl off that much that they wish Vick should lose his freedom and career for 10 years, then these same people should also fight the meat industry the same way.

Michael Vick lost his own freedom.

Everyone of his "supporters" wants to minimize what he did to justify his actions. Not one single one of you can ERASE what he did, can you? So all you're really doing is trying to justify someone doing something wrong because of WHO he is or what COLOR his skin is. How ridiculous and racist is that? When the "supporters" stop justifying what he did and start focusing on what he NEEDS to do, then you will have forward progress. Until then, much like his passing rating in the NFL, we will only have negative results. ;)

[1000cckiller]

This is the only country that treats dogs, like they are humans. Anywhere else they eat them like chicken.

[Spectic Tank]

This is the only country that treats dogs, like they are humans. Anywhere else they eat them like chicken.

Well, we're not in another country...we're in America where we "treat dogs like humans". If you wanna fight/eat dogs then go to another counrty.

[Jaimecbr900]

See a damn dog aint endangered.
Us people made this line of animal

Endangered species are wild animals

Dude, you smoking some good weed or what? :rolleyes:

#1. Name an endangered animal that's hunted.
#2. Who is "us people" and what animal did they "make"?
#3. Do you even have a point somewhere?

[Spectic Tank]

I hear u on somethings. Yes its **** up what vick did
But shootin someone is way
worst than fightin some dogs lets be real!!!

I agree %100.

That's why the sentence for murder is 25-life, NOT 23 months.

[blackDAHLIA]

OJ Simpson murders 2 people..... Free man

Mike Vick kills a couple dogs.... 23 months.


Just doesnt seem right.

[Mr.Big]

Well, we're not in another country...we're in America where we "treat dogs like humans". If you wanna fight/eat dogs then go to another counrty.

Imma put it like this if a humans get hit by a car u must believe the ambulance is on its way QUICK!!

If a dog gets hitby a car it might be there for bout 2 days before someone get
it off the street

[Mr.Big]

Lets be REal yall!!

[tony]

are you relating child porn and dog fighting as being similar crimes?

what kind of porn do you watch man, holy ****.

If Oprah gets convicted of child molestation are you saying that because she offers a service to the communtiy she doesnt deserve the full sentence?

I went away from this thread cause its redundant.

Dog fighting - Anyone convicted is considered a sick individual, the sentiment is that anyone who would participate is heartless and seriously disturbed.

Child Porn - See my definition of Dog Fighting

Get my point? Difference is one person gets locked away for up to 5 years, the other no jail time depending on the case.

I have zero sympathy who would do anything to a child, let them go to the chair for all I care. Dog fighting is subjective, and I am not going to argue it because I cannot.. it is wrong.

What I can argue is the punishment.

1 a: to impose a penalty on for a fault, offense, or violation b: to inflict a penalty for the commission of (an offense) in retribution or retaliation

A penalty is used to detour the behavior, Vick has lost in excess of $100 Million dollars and most likely his livelyhood.. he has lost more than most of us will ever see in a lifetime.. THAT is a penalty and I guarantee without jail time Vick would never want to see another Pit Bull again.. so again I feel the punishment does not fit the crime because he has been well penalized more than any of us ever would without any chance of commiting the crime again.

[quickdodge®]

See a damn dog aint endangered.
Us people made this line of animal


Lolol. "Us" people did not make dogs. According to a popular theory, there was this dude(some say it's a chick) they people call God. According to his biography, he created all things living. Later, QD.

[Spectic Tank]

OJ Simpson murders 2 people..... Free man

Mike Vick kills a couple dogs.... 23 months.


Just doesnt seem right.

OJ didnt admit to killing anyone.

Vick admitted to killing dogs, and funding a kennel used for dog fighting.

[Mr.Big]

I agree %100.

That's why the sentence for murder is 25-life, NOT 23 months.

in some states its like that

[1000cckiller]

Well, we're not in another country...we're in America where we "treat dogs like humans". If you wanna fight/eat dogs then go to another counrty.STFU ***** I am being sarcastic, now if you want to speak ask permission.

[Mr.Big]

Lolol. "Us" people did not make dogs. According to a popular theory, there was this dude(some say it's a chick) they people call God. According to his biography, he created all things living. Later, QD.

Im just talkin bout PITBULL not all (dogs)

[1000cckiller]

I agree %100.

That's why the sentence for murder is 25-life, NOT 23 months.Also, not everyone gets 25 to life. So that you should have never stated.

[quickdodge®]

OJ Simpson murders 2 people..... Free man

Mike Vick kills a couple dogs.... 23 months.


Just doesnt seem right.

What doesn't seem right? OJ was acquitted. Vick admitted his guilt. What doesn't seem right? How old are the people involved in this thread? Goddamn why harp on things that have no bearing. It's like all the Vick supporters act like they're losing something through this. Is your livelihood affected by this? You're just reaching out for **** that isn't even there. Later, QD.

[blackDAHLIA]

OJ didnt admit to killing anyone.

Vick admitted to killing dogs, and funding a kennel used for dog fighting.

Well im sure Vick could have round up 3 bad ass lawyers and gotten away with it but he is man enough to admit that he was wrong.

Im just sayin its f.ucked up how the judicial system works.

[quickdodge®]

Im just talkin bout PITBULL not all (dogs)

I'm through. Lolol. People just make anything up out of the blue to show they're right about ****. You have to live with you so you do you. Later, QD.

[Spectic Tank]

in some states its like that

I had a homeboy that set a dude on fire and only did 5 years

Well, murder is a federal crime so the punishment doesn't vary from state to state. There are however many other factors that go into sentencing. Not every case is balck and white.

[Mr.Big]

I agree %100.

That's why the sentence for murder is 25-life, NOT 23 months.

My homeboy set a dude on fire and only did 5 years

[quickdodge®]

Im just sayin its f.ucked up how the judicial system works.

Of course it is. Everyone's favorite cop out. Later, QD.

[Spectic Tank]

Well im sure Vick could have round up 3 bad ass lawyers and gotten away with it but he is man enough to admit that he was wrong.

Im just sayin its f.ucked up how the judicial system works.


:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:


Are you serious?! He denied that **** until the other defendants all made a deal and were gonna turn on him. He admitted because he had no other choice.

[Spectic Tank]

Also, not everyone gets 25 to life. So that you should have never stated.

OK fine.

It is fair to say that the punishment for killing a human is definately more severe than killing a dog. amirite?

[Mr.Big]

I'm through. Lolol. People just make anything up out of the blue to show they're right about ****. You have to live with you so you do you. Later, QD.

A man i aint making **** up out the blue
Qd u cool and **** man for the last couple of posts
u been tryin me

[blackDAHLIA]

he did at first. who wouldnt? but he had enough money to get some b.a. lawyers and pull an OJ.

[blackDAHLIA]

A man i aint making **** up out the blue
Qd u cool and **** man for the last couple of posts
u be tryin me

that was his 666th post. weird.

[Mr.Big]

that was his 666th post. weird.

Make me understand ur post

[1000cckiller]

OK fine.

It is fair to say that the punishment for killing a human is definately more severe than killing a dog. amirite?yes, I would hope so.

[Spectic Tank]

STFU ***** I am being sarcastic, now if you want to speak ask permission.

Awww, ur futile attempt at sarcasm has failed. I don't ask for permission from failures.

[Spectic Tank]

he did at first. who wouldnt? but he had enough money to get some b.a. lawyers and pull an OJ.

A Man.

[blackDAHLIA]

Make me understand ur post

666 the mark of the beast:devil:. i dunno man. just saw it thought id point it out to you.

[blackDAHLIA]

A Man.

touché

[BLK JDM]

I went away from this thread cause its redundant.

Dog fighting - Anyone convicted is considered a sick individual, the sentiment is that anyone who would participate is heartless and seriously disturbed.

Child Porn - See my definition of Dog Fighting

Get my point? Difference is one person gets locked away for up to 5 years, the other no jail time depending on the case.

I have zero sympathy who would do anything to a child, let them go to the chair for all I care. Dog fighting is subjective, and I am not going to argue it because I cannot.. it is wrong.

What I can argue is the punishment.

1 a: to impose a penalty on for a fault, offense, or violation b: to inflict a penalty for the commission of (an offense) in retribution or retaliation

A penalty is used to detour the behavior, Vick has lost in excess of $100 Million dollars and most likely his livelyhood.. he has lost more than most of us will ever see in a lifetime.. THAT is a penalty and I guarantee without jail time Vick would never want to see another Pit Bull again.. so again I feel the punishment does not fit the crime because he has been well penalized more than any of us ever would without any chance of commiting the crime again.

We got rich white bitches and dudes getting away w/ DUI, theft, and even murder. They'll get a fine and light, BS jail time.

I'LL BE THE IGNORANT ONE TO SAY IT. IF IT WAS A RICH, WHITE PERSON-THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL HE'D GET 23 MONTHS EVEN IF HE PLED GUILTY. I'll be the Kanye West of IA and say, "You can't tell me nothing!!" Plain and simple. My debate is not whether Vick was wrong nor right b/c clearly he was wrong. He even pleaded to that. Now was that excessive punishment by the Federal Government(some white holier than though MF)-I SAY YES!!.

Look at the law change that just occured in the Supreme Court. Generally it would take 10 times the amount of powder cocaine(generally sold and used by whites) compared to crack concaine(generally sold and used by blacks) to yield the same jail time in Federal and State Courts. So if you're a poor black kid selling crack rock on the corner you'll get a GUARANTEED 10yrs for 10 grams of crack cocaine. While the rich white kid on the other side of town trying to be hard gets off w/ 1 yrs probation and a fine for 10grams of powder. If he rats on his source and maybe they find 100grams of powder cocaine at his stash house then he'll get MAYBE 10yrs-generally they'll get less!!

If you want more proof I've got plenty. Look at more than half the judicial rulings in TX and LA and you'll see there is a definite difference in jail time given to black compared to whites that commited the same crime. Some even get no jail time and just probation. Why do you think blacks are so mad about the Jena 6 or Genarlow Williams.

I've not stated 1 opinion in my reply-THESE ARE ALL FACTS. AND THESE ARE THE REASONS PEOPLE LIKE ME SAY, "FREE MIKE VICK!!" I'M A DOG LOVER-ACTUALLY I'M PRETTY MUCH JUST A PITBULL LOVER AND I THINK IT'S WRONG TO FIGHT AND KILL DOGS BUT I STILL SAY AND WILL KEEP SAYING FREE MIKE VICK!!! IT'S STILL A DOUBLE STANDARD IN THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM AND HAS BEEN FOR YEARS.

[1000cckiller]

Awww, ur futile attempt at sarcasm has failed. I don't ask for permission from failures.you will ask my permission slutbucket.

[quickdodge®]

A man i aint making **** up out the blue
Qd u cool and **** man for the last couple of posts
u been tryin me

Nah, we straight homeboy. But we won't always see eye to eye on ****. But it doesn't affect anything, cuzz. Later, QD.

[Spectic Tank]

you will ask my permission slutbucket.

Don't be given out my Govmn't on a public forum.

And stop tryin to make me your *****. I'm not gonna ask you for permission, I'm not gonna follow you around and hold onto your belt, and NO! you cannot sell me to Ralph in Cell Block 6 for a carton of Newports. LEAVE ME ALONE!

[Glides]

My homeboy set a dude on fire and only did 5 years

I've lit 200 people on fire, including a 48 year old man, a History Channel announcer and a dude with one leg. I didn' get anything except paid for it.

None of what anyone says is going to change anything. Vick admitted to a crime, now he gets to do that time. No matter what that crime is, he admitted to it so game over.

[1000cckiller]

Don't be given out my Govmn't on a public forum.

And stop tryin to make me your *****. I'm not gonna ask you for permission, I'm not gonna follow you around and hold onto your belt, and NO! you cannot sell me to Ralph in Cell Block 6 for a carton of Newports. LEAVE ME ALONE!lolol

[Mr.Big]

Nah, we straight homeboy. But we won't always see eye to eye on ****. But it doesn't affect anything, cuzz. Later, QD.

Oh alright then cause u my homeboy i aint seen yet
But we srt8 cuz i hear u

[ShooterMcGavin]

Don't be given out my Govmn't on a public forum.

And stop tryin to make me your *****. I'm not gonna ask you for permission, I'm not gonna follow you around and hold onto your belt, and NO! you cannot sell me to Ralph in Cell Block 6 for a carton of Newports. LEAVE ME ALONE!
how about a carton of parliaments? lol

[BanginJimmy]

I amount of ignorant people in this world continues to suprise me.

1. Vick plead guilty and was offered 18 months. Then he smoked while on bail and got caught. Someone with less money would have been locked up awaiting sentencing.
2. OK was found innocent in criminal court BEFORE the civil action. I do believe its BS that he could be taken to court again after that. If the civil action came frst, thats another story.

[BLK JDM]

I amount of ignorant people in this world continues to suprise me.

1. Vick plead guilty and was offered 18 months. Then he smoked while on bail and got caught. Someone with less money would have been locked up awaiting sentencing.
2. OK was found innocent in criminal court BEFORE the civil action. I do believe its BS that he could be taken to court again after that. If the civil action came frst, thats another story.

We got rich white bitches and dudes getting away w/ DUI, theft, and even murder. They'll even get in trouble again while on probation or awaiting trial just like Vick. But, they'll get a fine and light, BS jail time.

I'LL BE THE IGNORANT ONE TO SAY IT. IF IT WAS A RICH, WHITE PERSON-THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL HE'D GET 23 MONTHS EVEN IF HE PLED GUILTY. I'll be the Kanye West of IA and say, "You can't tell me nothing!!" Plain and simple. My debate is not whether Vick was wrong nor right b/c clearly he was wrong. He even pleaded to that. Now was that excessive punishment by the Federal Government(some white holier than thou MF)-I SAY YES!!.

Look at the law change that just occured in the Supreme Court. Generally it would take 10 times the amount of powder cocaine(generally sold and used by whites) compared to crack concaine(generally sold and used by blacks) to yield the same jail time in Federal and State Courts. So if you're a poor black kid selling crack rock on the corner you'll get a GUARANTEED 10yrs for 10 grams of crack cocaine. While the rich white kid on the other side of town trying to be hard gets off w/ 1 yrs probation and a fine for 10grams of powder. If he rats on his source and maybe they find 100grams of powder cocaine at his stash house then he'll get MAYBE 10yrs-generally they'll get less!!

If you want more proof I've got plenty. Look at more than half the judicial rulings in TX and LA and you'll see there is a definite difference in jail time given to black compared to whites that commited the same crime. Some even get no jail time and just probation. Why do you think blacks are so mad about the Jena 6 or Genarlow Williams.

I've not stated 1 opinion in my reply-THESE ARE ALL FACTS. AND THESE ARE THE REASONS PEOPLE LIKE ME SAY, "FREE MIKE VICK!!" I'M A DOG LOVER-ACTUALLY I'M PRETTY MUCH JUST A PITBULL LOVER AND I THINK IT'S WRONG TO FIGHT AND KILL DOGS BUT I STILL SAY AND WILL KEEP SAYING FREE MIKE VICK!!! IT'S STILL A DOUBLE STANDARD IN THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM AND HAS BEEN FOR YEARS.