Imus just lost his show

[Lucky DAWG]

CNBC just dropped him, this is the most ridiculous shit i have ever heard, he made a comment about a team with white and black girls on the team and it gets blown out of preportion when much worse is said everyday.

I can't believe that the news station sunk down to the level of Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton and actually let their bigotry and moronic beliefs get to them. I still hope that Imus can get funding for his ranch out west for all of those kids that have cancer, he really is a good guy who made a dumb comment.

I enjoyed his show too, fuck the people who blew this out of preportion, you should be ashamed for wasting air time and tax dollars, they were about to have a congressional hearing on this or something i heard

[Julio]

Someone will offer him a deal in no time..

[Kamikaze]

LOL

If he ever gets another job, maybe he'll think twice about making such dumbass comments. :lmao:

[Lucky DAWG]

LOL

If he ever gets another job, maybe he'll think twice about making such dumbass comments. :lmao:

tell that to hundreds of other rappers, talk show hosts, and political leaders who say worse every hour on the hour

if you actually listened to his show you would see that hes a good guy

dumbass comment(s)?

you mean one bad comment that wasn't racist what so ever

[Lucky DAWG]

Someone will offer him a deal in no time..

i hope so

[bigdare23]

CNBC just dropped him, this is the most ridiculous shit i have ever heard, he made a comment about a team with white and black girls on the team and it gets blown out of preportion when much worse is said everyday.

I can't believe that the news station sunk down to the level of Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton and actually let their bigotry and moronic beliefs get to them. I still hope that Imus can get funding for his ranch out west for all of those kids that have cancer, he really is a good guy who made a dumb comment.

I enjoyed his show too, fuck the people who blew this out of preportion, you should be ashamed for wasting air time and tax dollars, they were about to have a congressional hearing on this or something i heard

was that really called for?

[Lucky DAWG]

was that really called for?

yea


they are idiots who say racist things all the time

they hurt the black movement rather then help it, they focus on stupid things like this as publicity stunts to get them in the spotlight rather then focusing on real issues that are hurting african americans

read wut jaime said in the other thread about Imus, he laid it out perfectly

[rolling_trip]

was that really called for?

yep x 2

This just shows that the bastards at NBC have no backbone to speak of. It sucks that one comment, reguardsless of what was said, can end a career. No one looks at what good he has done, rather a simple "F'up". Maybe he will find his way over to XM, or maybe even Fox News.

[Lucky DAWG]

someone is going to let him back
their stock relied on him too much, and its gonna take a big hit without him

the rich baestards will stiffen up their backbones as soon as their pockets get hit

[bigdare23]

yea


they are idiots who say racist things all the time

they hurt the black movement rather then help it, they focus on stupid things like this as publicity stunts to get them in the spotlight rather then focusing on real issues that are hurting african americans

read wut jaime said in the other thread about Imus, he laid it out perfectly

if you say so.............. :thinking:

[Kamikaze]

you mean one bad comment that wasn't racist what so ever

:rly:

I'd expect you to say that since it wasn't directed towards your race. Come on, "nappy" is slang that originated in the Black community. Now if the majority of the team wasn't Black, then you might have a point. But saying that his comment wasn't racist is just naive.

[Lucky DAWG]

if you say so.............. :thinking:

i do
you don't know what you're talking about man, sorry

i'm gonna quote jamie's comment, hope you don't mine dude





I heard some very interesting things yesterday on the radio and news shows:

Quote:
How come Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are so quick to jump on this issue, but they neglect the much more serious issues affecting the "black community". How about the 50% drop out rate in inner city high schools or how about 80% of people incarcerated in the US are black. How come domestically African Americans have the highest pregnancy rate under the age of 20, highest illegitamacy rate, etc etc etc.


The guy that said this was:
Larry Elder
http://www.ocregister.com/newsimages/commentary/syndicated/Larry.Elder.large.jpg


He makes very good points, why do Sharpton and Jackson try to champion this incident like its the biggest thing since david duke. Why is this issue getting SO MUCH attention, is it REALLY that bad for race relations? is it really as bad as everyone is making it out to seem?

If they are such champions of the black community, where are they on the issues that MATTER like the ones listed above. Surely calling someone a "nappy headed ho" is not in the same league as the SCARY statistics listed above.

How come other people are allowed to get away with MUCH WORSE, like this comment Hilary Clinton made recently:

Isnt this Racist? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Mq8kOXV_E)

how come that never got any attention? where were people when she made that comment?

[Lucky DAWG]

:rly:

I'd expect you to say that since it wasn't directed towards your race. Come on, "nappy" is slang that originated in the Black community. Now if the majority of the team wasn't Black, then you might have a point. But saying that his comment wasn't racist is just naive.

it refers to hair...................
and yea there are white girls on the team

and white people can have nappy hair too, so what are you talking about

[koukis14]

was that really called for?

Yes x3

Those assholes are just making it worse for everyone. They take these "bad" situations and remind everyone over and over again that hey happened. The only reason they "care" is to make themselves even more popular(rich).

["B"]

For the record:

B still loves nappy headed hos!!!

[Kamikaze]

it refers to hair...................
and yea there are white girls on the team

and white people can have nappy hair too, so what are you talking about

Notice I said majority. I'm well aware that there are white girls on the team.

[Eurostunna07]

hell ya that dumb racist, conservative douche bag left.

["B"]

It wouldn't have mattered if they were all black girls.


"Nappy headed hos" is not a racist comment.

[TIGERJC]

I don't see the problem with the firing. If anyone tarnishes the repuation of a company, they usually let those ppl go. Why isnt it not fair that he got fired, if a regular person made that comment publical they would get fired for it. The man has some money and will be picked up by someone else in no time. I thought that was a good business move by firing him

["B"]

The bigot Al Sharpton is on The O'Reilly Factor right now.

He is such a racist fuck.

["B"]

I don't see the problem with the firing. If anyone tarnishes the repuation of a company, they usually let those ppl go. Why isnt it not fair that he got fired, if a regular person made that comment publical they would get fired for it. The man has some money and will be picked up by someone else in no time. I thought that was a good business move by firing him


His comment shouldn't have been taken as a racist statement. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are a bunch of racist fucks that jump on anythign to make money.

[Wurm]

im going to start calling every girl i know a nappy headed ho..... I already call them all hoe's but i will add to that lirl

[Eurostunna07]

I dislike The O'Reilly show. rather wait for Anderson cooper 360

[Lucky DAWG]

Yes x3

Those assholes are just making it worse for everyone. They take these "bad" situations and remind everyone over and over again that hey happened. The only reason they "care" is to make themselves even more popular(rich).


E FUCKIN SACTLY

i'm getting even more worked up about this because some lady is on the tv right now talking about how women are really concerned about their hair and its a sensitive issue, get the hell over it. You are ruining a man's career because you want to get on tv and talk about your hair???

al sharpton is on the o'reilly report right now and they just asked him about the issue of high school dropout for african americans in inner city's.

He addressed it for 3 seconds and said they were doing things about it then completely avoided it and continued to talk about don imus.

Al Sharpton likes seeing himself on TV. period.

["B"]

The only thing Imus did wrong was taking my statement.

[Lucky DAWG]

I don't see the problem with the firing. If anyone tarnishes the repuation of a company, they usually let those ppl go. Why isnt it not fair that he got fired, if a regular person made that comment publical they would get fired for it. The man has some money and will be picked up by someone else in no time. I thought that was a good business move by firing him

say that again after you watch their stock the following days

["B"]

I dislike The O'Reilly show. rather wait for Anderson cooper 360



Of course you would, he makes too much sense. Anderson Cooper isn't bad, but he doesn't tell it how it is..

[rolling_trip]

Why isnt it not fair that he got fired, if a regular person made that comment publical they would get fired for it.


I think you are wrong there. If Joe Blow would have said that, then no one would have given a shit. Its because he is a public figure that moron, Al Not-to-Sharp, went on a crusade.

BTW, I'm still waiting for an answer to the question about the real problems that face the black community.

[tony]

All I have to say is.. know the consequences of your actions. Regardless of it being right or wrong it was offensive and oh yeah.. there are decision makers out there in companies that buy air time who are BLACK, I guess he didn't realize that. Times have changed..

Personally I like this.. the government kept their nose out of it and the market made the decision. These companies pay for airtime on your show so they have the right to pull their advertisements when they do not agree. It was wrong to say and he's suffering the consequences.. I have zero sympathy

[Kamikaze]

His comment shouldn't have been taken as a racist statement. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are a bunch of racist fucks that jump on anythign to make money.

Not that I fully support Jesse or Al, but I'm curious as to how you think they're being paid for bringing attention to an issue?

[Marta Mike]

1. You say his remarks were not racist.

2. You noticeably and continually take shots at two specific black "leaders" if they are called that, because I dont care for either of them. Yes im black.

3. There were many more other than J.J. and Al S. not only against but fighting that what he said was wrong.

Now lets see the remark was not racist..correct? Nappy headed. Now i wouldnt say a white person saying that is racist its more so........ummm........idiotic? Moronic? More so just simply disrespectful. "Nappy headed" is simply and easily directed towards black people. By him saying that does it make him a racist? No. By him saying it for millions to hear does it make him a racist? No. It simply reveals his lack of character and respect for a different cultural background. Ignorance.....so i guess that makes him a nigger? Correct?

The actions and publicity that have arisen from this small act of ignorance I believe are unfair and unnecessary. Of course the word would have gotten out about what he said and eventually he would pay in one way or another for his actions. People make mistakes, shit happens. He simply could have been trying to maybe be funny and didnt realize how much of an impact saying what he said would have? I dunno. So what is it, does he not care about or respect others? Or did he just not know what he was saying was wrong? No one knows but him. So in that respect all you can do is let him go on and be. If you dont like what he said dont support him. Simple as that.

[Kamikaze]

All I have to say is.. know the consequences of your actions. Regardless of it being right or wrong it was offensive and oh yeah.. there are decision makers out there in companies that buy air time who are BLACK, I guess he didn't realize that. Times have changed..

Personally I like this.. the government kept their nose out of it and the market made the decision. These companies pay for airtime on your show so they have the right to pull their advertisements when they do not agree. It was wrong to say and he's suffering the consequences.. I have zero sympathy

Hell yeah +1 :goodjob:

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to tony again.

[Lucky DAWG]

Not that I fully support Jesse or Al, but I'm curious as to how you think they're being paid for bringing attention to an issue?

they get money as a figure head for "the movement" by people in thier community who support their outrageous actions.

the more air time they get and more publicity they put out there, the more donations and hand outs they will get from people who like what they are doing

[Lucky DAWG]

1. You say his remarks were not racist.

2. You noticeably and continually take shots at two specific black "leaders" if they are called that, because I dont care for either of them. Yes im black.

3. There were many more other than J.J. and Al S. not only against but fighting that what he said was wrong.

Now lets see the remark was not racist..correct? Nappy headed. Now i wouldnt say a white person saying that is racist its more so........ummm........idiotic? Moronic? More so just simply disrespectful. "Nappy headed" is simply and easily directed towards black people. By him saying that does it make him a racist? No. By him saying it for millions to hear does it make him a racist? No. It simply reveals his lack of character and respect for a different cultural background. Ignorance.....so i guess that makes him a nigger? Correct?

The actions and publicity that have arisen from this small act of ignorance I believe are unfair and unnecessary. Of course the word would have gotten out about what he said and eventually he would pay in one way or another for his actions. People make mistakes, shit happens. He simply could have been trying to maybe be funny and didnt realize how much of an impact saying what he said would have? I dunno. So what is it, does he not care about or respect others? Or did he just not know what he was saying was wrong? No one knows but him. So in that respect all you can do is let him go on and be. If you dont like what he said dont support him. Simple as that.

your first paragraph made zero sense

the second did, just don't listen to him if you don't like it. If the people bitching at him actually knew about him they would know that he gives a lot of money to charities and he doesn't do it as a publicity stunt to try and make himself look better.

white people can have nappy hair too, so explain to me how its racist

and i keep picking on Al and Jessie because they are the two morons who stick their necks out the furthest

[Lucky DAWG]

All I have to say is.. know the consequences of your actions. Regardless of it being right or wrong it was offensive and oh yeah.. there are decision makers out there in companies that buy air time who are BLACK, I guess he didn't realize that. Times have changed..

Personally I like this.. the government kept their nose out of it and the market made the decision. These companies pay for airtime on your show so they have the right to pull their advertisements when they do not agree. It was wrong to say and he's suffering the consequences.. I have zero sympathy

what on earth are you talking about

[koukis14]

E FUCKIN SACTLY

You are ruining a man's career because you want to get on tv and talk about your hair???




HAHAHAHAHA I hate cunts. Nappy headed cunts that is.

["B"]

Not that I fully support Jesse or Al, but I'm curious as to how you think they're being paid for bringing attention to an issue?


Because it brings attention onto them. More attention equals more money for their "non-profit" agency.

"Oh look, Al is at it again sticking up for them nappy ass hos. Let's send him more money".

If a black radio personality would have called them nappy headed hos would we be having this conversation?

I just jumped on Killer and Kelly for being racists today. What Imus did was stupid, not racist.

[Marta Mike]

white people can have nappy hair too, so explain to me how its racist


:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[Lucky DAWG]

Because it brings attention onto them. More attention equals more money for their "non-profit" agency.

"Oh look, Al is at it again sticking up for them nappy ass hos. Let's send him more money".

If a black radio personality would have called them nappy headed hos would we be having this conversation?

I just jumped on Killer and Kelly for being racists today. What Imus did was stupid, not racist.

exactly B

i wish i could get on there and tell it like it is to Sharpton

[tony]

what on earth are you talking about


I thought it was pretty clear but in a nutshell he got what was coming to him.

[Kamikaze]

they get money as a figure head for "the movement" by people in thier community who support their outrageous actions.

the more air time they get and more publicity they put out there, the more donations and hand outs they will get from people who like what they are doing

You mean their groupies? :lmfao:

It's funny how people always think that Al and Jess are the only representatives for the Black community. They haven't been real spokesmen since the 60s. I would think by now you all would have taken note that even their own people don't half listen to them. Ever see the movie Barbershop? Remember what Cedric said? ;)

[Lucky DAWG]

I thought it was pretty clear but in a nutshell he got what was coming to him.

are you saying this because you actually listen to his show?
because you obviously thought wrong

if you really feel this way, please continue to say the same things about a large portion of modern day entertainers such as rappers

[Lucky DAWG]

You mean their groupies? :lmfao:

It's funny how people always think that Al and Jess are the only representatives for the Black community. They haven't been real spokesmen since the 60s. I would think by now you all would have taken note that even their own people don't half listen to them. Ever see the movie Barbershop? Remember what Cedric said? ;)

ofcourse they're not the ones making actual decisions
but when you give them air time you are feeding the monster.

they should put on people who actually want to make changes for the black community

["B"]

1. You say his remarks were not racist.

It wasn't racist, it was stupid. If I were the girls I would be more pissed about the "ho" part. there were white girls on that team to. He didn't point out a few black girls and call them nappy headed hos.


2. You noticeably and continually take shots at two specific black "leaders" if they are called that, because I dont care for either of them. Yes im black.


3. There were many more other than J.J. and Al S. not only against but fighting that what he said was wrong.

They are the two most vocal and visual people there. This isn't the first time they have "jumped at the chance" to turn something into a big spectacle. Remember when the Duke case first started? They "jumped at that opportunity to attack the white kids. Look what happened, charges dropped. Apologies from Sharpton or Jackson? Nope.




Now lets see the remark was not racist..correct? Nappy headed. Now i wouldnt say a white person saying that is racist its more so........ummm........idiotic? Moronic? More so just simply disrespectful. "Nappy headed" is simply and easily directed towards black people. By him saying that does it make him a racist? No. By him saying it for millions to hear does it make him a racist? No. It simply reveals his lack of character and respect for a different cultural background. Ignorance.....so i guess that makes him a nigger? Correct?

Wait, so you are saying that all "niggers" are ignorant?

So when a rapper or any other black person calls another black person a "nigga" they are calling their friends and family ignorant?

White people get laughed at because we use the words "dude" or "bro". Isn't it funny that we don't downgrade ourselves?

Who's racist now?


The actions and publicity that have arisen from this small act of ignorance I believe are unfair and unnecessary. Of course the word would have gotten out about what he said and eventually he would pay in one way or another for his actions. People make mistakes, shit happens. He simply could have been trying to maybe be funny and didnt realize how much of an impact saying what he said would have? I dunno. So what is it, does he not care about or respect others? Or did he just not know what he was saying was wrong? No one knows but him. So in that respect all you can do is let him go on and be. If you dont like what he said dont support him. Simple as that.

The people who should be mad at Imus are the women's lib groups.

[tony]

You mean their groupies? :lmfao:

It's funny how people always think that Al and Jess are the only representatives for the Black community. They haven't been real spokesmen since the 60s. I would think by now you all would have taken note that even their own people don't half listen to them. Ever see the movie Barbershop? Remember what Cedric said? ;)


Exactly, its ignorance feeding ignorance. Blacks who can think for theirself laugh at Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, its the media who continues to throw a mic in their face and broadcast their every move.. and as long as they can piss people like lucky sc off they will continue to get attention. Personally I could care less for either one, they do not make a difference .. but that is just me.

[TheSnail]

A bit off topic but is Al Sharpton fat or something? Because when I hear him on 102.5 all I hear is heavy breathing.

[Lucky DAWG]

Exactly, its ignorance feeding ignorance. Blacks who can think for theirself laugh at Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, its the media who continues to throw a mic in their face and broadcast their every move.. and as long as they can piss people like lucky sc off they will continue to get attention. Personally I could care less for either one, they do not make a difference .. but that is just me.

point fingers at the people who want to give them money
don't you point fingers at me bud

[Kamikaze]

A bit off topic but is Al Sharpton fat or something? Because when I hear him on 102.5 all I hear is heavy breathing.

Well, he's nowhere near the category of "thin" if that's what you're asking.

[Lucky DAWG]

A bit off topic but is Al Sharpton fat or something? Because when I hear him on 102.5 all I hear is heavy breathing.

yes, hahaha :lmfao:

+1

[TheSnail]

I KNEW IT !

[tony]

are you saying this because you actually listen to his show?
because you obviously thought wrong

if you really feel this way, please continue to say the same things about a large portion of modern day entertainers such as rappers

Actually I said some things yesterday




I guess I am fed up with being grouped into the majority of blacks who complain about what white people do but turn my back to real issues within the black community such as black on black crime or the lack of education in the community. Not all of us think like that, its just the ones who do seem to get all of the attention.

[Marta Mike]

It wasn't racist, it was stupid. If I were the girls I would be more pissed about the "ho" part. there were white girls on that team to. He didn't point out a few black girls and call them nappy headed hos.



They are the two most vocal and visual people there. This isn't the first time they have "jumped at the chance" to turn something into a big spectacle. Remember when the Duke case first started? They "jumped at that opportunity to attack the white kids. Look what happened, charges dropped. Apologies from Sharpton or Jackson? Nope.





Wait, so you are saying that all "niggers" are ignorant?

So when a rapper or any other black person calls another black person a "nigga" they are calling their friends and family ignorant?

White people get laughed at because we use the words "dude" or "bro". Isn't it funny that we don't downgrade ourselves?

Who's racist now?



The people who should be mad at Imus are the women's lib groups.













Read and dissect again buddy. As far as nigger and nigga, im not gonna explain something you dont, cant, and will not culturally understand. You can tear down anything i have to say and make it wont you want, as i can to you. The last paragraph says what it pretty much came down to. Ive said what i had to say and im done.

[Lucky DAWG]

Actually I said some things yesterday

good then don't talk about it like it was a racist comment

if you want to let someone get pissed
let feminist groups

[Ltdnismorace]

Do you guys get Lex and Terry on the radio down there? This morning they were talking about this on their show and the black dude on their show who goes by the name "D" said it best. The dad on the jeffersons show called white people honkies the entire run of their show all the time but nobody jumped his shit, but put it in reverse and shit hits the fan. I am by no means a racist person, I have friends of every color and creed, but I am also an advocate of freedom of speech and the right of every person to have their opinion. What Imus said was not a good judgement call, but we all make poor decisions every day.

["B"]

Read and dissect again buddy. As far as nigger and nigga, im not gonna explain something you dont, cant, and will not culturally understand. You can tear down anything i have to say and make it wont you want, as i can to you. The last paragraph says what it pretty much came down to. Ive said what i had to say and im done.


Wait, so you were around during the days of slavery?

You can understand it but I can't? Is that because I am white?

[tony]

point fingers at the people who want to give them money
don't you point fingers at me bud


But why are people willing to give them money? Because they can strike a chord with people such as yourself and get media attention. Think about it, would he really get donations if he did not get any attention at all?

Trust me, in my eyes Al Sharpton is counterproductive for the future of blacks in this country. If we never heard from him again would the black community be in shambles? No.. it would probably be better off.

[Kamikaze]

good then don't talk about it like it was a racist comment

What he said may not have been racist in intent, but it still singled out a particular feature that is mostly specific to the Black race. And as far as white people having nappy hair, I bet you don't even know what real "naps" are LOL. :lmao:

[Maniaç]

...... no comment.

[rolling_trip]

...... no comment.

lol, then why even post?

[Lucky DAWG]

But why are people willing to give them money? Because they can strike a chord with people such as yourself and get media attention. Think about it, would he really get donations if he did not get any attention at all?

Trust me, in my eyes Al Sharpton is counterproductive for the future of blacks in this country. If we never heard from him again would the black community be in shambles? No.. it would probably be better off.

so true

i'm no racist, i would rather the black community be better off
racism is in division which people like sharpton advocate

we should be treated the same which means no affirmative action or anything of that sort.

[tony]

good then don't talk about it like it was a racist comment

if you want to let someone get pissed
let feminist groups


If you read my posts you'd see I said nothing about racism and everything about being offensive. If you have advertisers on your show who pride their company on the diversity of their employees and their customer base then a really really dumb move would be to go out and offend those people. Was it racist? No Stupid? Absolutely and as I said before he is finding that out the hard way.

["B"]

What he said may not have been racist in intent, but it still singled out a particular feature that is mostly specific to the Black race.

But did he single out blacks in particular? There were white girls there too.:lmfao:

[jaystar]

i think he should of never said nappy headed hoes that jus not right to say he should not of said it or atleast thought about it

[Maniaç]

lol, then why even post?


haha, just a random post. thats all

[Tracy]

I think that it is the comapnies decision to fire him if he isn't portraying the image they expect. I don't think it should go to a congressional hearing tho. So the good news to me is that it was a company decision.

["B"]

If you read my posts you'd see I said nothing about racism and everything about being offensive. If you have advertisers on your show who pride their company on the diversity of their employees and their customer base then a really really dumb move would be to go out and offend those people. Was it racist? No Stupid? Absolutely and as I said before he is finding that out the hard way.

Good post, I believe we all think it was a stupid comment.

[06SilverBullet]

Me Personally...I am glad that he got booted...I really never liked him anyways...That comment was way out of line...

Mark

[rolling_trip]

i think he should of never said nappy headed hoes that jus not right to say he should not of said it or atleast thought about it

http://secure.hop.com/images/products/1007_large.jpg

[Lucky DAWG]

I think that it is the comapnies decision to fire him if he isn't portraying the image they expect. I don't think it should go to a congressional hearing tho. So the good news to me is that it was a company decision.

true, they were about to waste our tax dollars on this bullshit
the company will realize it was stupid when their profits go down though... they'll have to build up a consumer base for whoever they replace him with.

i'm off to do some hw though

[Evil Goat]

lots of racist people in the world, al sharpton, imus, charles barkley, rush, etc etc

but isnt it ironic that only the black guys can get away w/ such stupidity?

p.s. wasnt it sharpton (maybe not, been a while since i heard this) that offered that black slut of a stripper who accused the duke lacrosse team, who btw had all of their charges dropped today, a college scholarship? but ill bet anything that the prosecution wont pursue false allegations charges on that nappy headed hoe....why? b/c shes black....wouldnt want to piss the adultering jesse jackson off now would we?

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.parcoltop33.19508.ImageFile.jpg

["B"]

lots of racist people in the world, al sharpton, imus, charles barkley, rush, etc etc

but isnt it ironic that only the black guys can get away w/ such stupidity?

p.s. wasnt it sharpton (maybe not, been a while since i heard this) that offered that black slut of a stripper who accused the duke lacrosse team, who btw had all of their charges dropped today, a college scholarship? but ill bet anything that the prosecution wont pursue false allegations charges on that nappy headed hoe....why? b/c shes black....wouldnt want to piss the adultering jesse jackson off now would we?



Yes, I brought that up already, but no one wanted to respond to that comment.

[Evil Goat]

Yes, I brought that up already, but no one wanted to respond to that comment.


sorry for the repost....didnt really read the thread before responding...nice to see someone else paying attention to the stupidity of these people though

[Kamikaze]

Once again, who gives a fuck about Al Sharpton? Find something else to talk about and no I don't mean Jesse.

[tony]

Yes, I brought that up already, but no one wanted to respond to that comment.


I think that is because everyone agrees that Al Sharpton = Idiot. Its hard for me to take a dude who walks around with a perm seriously anyway.

[Evil Goat]

Once again, who gives a fuck about Al Sharpton? Find something else to talk about and no I don't mean Jesse.


you must be black.....its okay though, as a white male im used to being pushed around by political correctness, while walking around on egg shells around free talking minorities, minorities who can say whatever they want b/c they have no fear of being reprimanded....b/c if they are theyll just play the almighty race card


we can talk about charles barkley if youd like...hes right up there at the top w/ the rest of the bigotry brigade

[AirMax95]

But did he single out blacks in particular? There were white girls there too.:lmfao:

People keep trying to justify the reamark by saying that "there were white girls there too"

That is very true, but did any one hear Imus tie in Spike Lee to the remark. No one here has brought that up. I do not have the exact quote, but it was along the lines of "It's like a Spike Lee Joint out there", then his co-host threw in the "jiggaboo" line.

Radio show host alot of times discuss what they are going to say on the cast before they air........I FEEL THIS WAS SCRIPTED FOR REACTION BY THE LISTENERS, HE GOT A REACTION FROM THEM, AND THE SHOW....dropped

He is an ignorant person for saying it, and the co-host....


I am still debating on how to call his comment, but either racist or ignorant, it should not have been said.......he offened the team and the school community

[Kamikaze]

you must be black.....its okay though, as a white male im used to being pushed around by political correctness, while walking around on egg shells around free talking minorities, minorities who can say whatever they want b/c they have no fear of being reprimanded....b/c if they are theyll just play the almighty race card

And your point is? I personally don't play the "race card" because I see it as a cop-out. I'd rather hurt and/or belittle people in other ways. ;)

["B"]

you must be black.....its okay though, as a white male im used to being pushed around by political correctness, while walking around on egg shells around free talking minorities, minorities who can say whatever they want b/c they have no fear of being reprimanded....b/c if they are theyll just play the almighty race card


we can talk about charles barkley if youd like...hes right up there at the top w/ the rest of the bigotry brigade

Fuck that. I grew up in California where I WAS THE MINORITY. There weren't many white people in my school.

Most "minorities" don't know how it really feels to be the "hated minority". Hence the reason why I get pissed off at racist and people pulling the race card too quickly.

[Evil Goat]

im right there with everyone else, for the most part, it was an ignorant slip up....do i really care? no...imus is a shock jock, this is what he does for a living.....it should be expected....the only reason he lost his show is b/c sponsors are starting to back out...if the sponsors stay the show stays...simple as that

[AirMax95]

you must be black.....its okay though, as a white male im used to being pushed around by political correctness, while walking around on egg shells around free talking minorities, minorities who can say whatever they want b/c they have no fear of being reprimanded....b/c if they are theyll just play the almighty race card


we can talk about charles barkley if youd like...hes right up there at the top w/ the rest of the bigotry brigade

Sadly, Sharpton has followers of all races. He is a very educated man with a strong and wild opinion, GOOD and BAD....

But it takes an educated person to filter the BS that he sometimes rides on.....

["B"]

People keep trying to justify the reamark by saying that "there were white girls there too"

That is very true, but did any one hear Imus tie in Spike Lee to the remark. No one here has brought that up. I do not have the exact quote, but it was along the lines of "It's like a Spike Lee Joint out there", then his co-host threw in the "jiggaboo" line.

Radio show host alot of times discuss what they are going to say on the cast before they air........I FEEL THIS WAS SCRIPTED FOR REACTION BY THE LISTENERS, HE GOT A REACTION FROM THEM, AND THE SHOW....dropped

He is an ignorant person for saying it, and the co-host....


I am still debating on how to call his comment, but either racist or ignorant, it should not have been said.......he offened the team and the school community


Then his assistant made the racist comment.

[Kamikaze]

Most "minorities" don't know how it really feels to be the "hated minority".

I'm sure it feels very similar to being called a nigger, or seeing people dressed up in black-face, or being called a "nappy headed ho..." Need I go on? You're being hated because of a genetic difference that really doesn't have anything to do with the person you are on the inside. Welcome to the club.

[ORGANIZATIONXIII]

I guess FOXNEWS will be picking up his show

[Evil Goat]

Sadly, Sharpton has followers of all races. He is a very educated man with a strong and wild opinion, GOOD and BAD....

But it takes an educated person to filter the BS that he sometimes rides on.....


3 years at brooklyn college is far from educated...theres no doubt hes smart, but hes not educated, theres a difference

[Evil Goat]

I'm sure it feels very similar to being called a nigger, or seeing people dressed up in black-face, or being called a "nappy headed ho..." Need I go on? You're being hated because of a genetic difference that really doesn't have anything to do with the person you are on the inside. Welcome to the club.


i hardly care, nor want to hear about blacks being called niggers.....although obviously way out of place, and wrong, it is widely and openly used by the black community, which noone can or will deny....double standard ftl

[rolling_trip]

Then his assistant made the racist comment.

But yet his assistant wasn't a "trophy" to go after. Everyone is trying to comment on the matter for their 5 sec's of fame. I would glady trade AS and JJ's lives, if it would bring back MLK Jr. I guess people forget that this endfighting is against his movement. As long as there are people that will throw out racist slurs, as well as people there to pull the race card, THIS SHIT WILL NEVER END!

["B"]

I'm sure it feels very similar to being called a nigger, or seeing people dressed up in black-face, or being called a "nappy headed ho..." Need I go on? You're being hated because of a genetic difference that really doesn't have anything to do with the person you are on the inside. Welcome to the club.


You know how many times I have been called a "cracker" "whiteboy" "redneck"or hill billy" in my life? I don't give a fuck what people say about me. Were they nappy headed hos in your opinion?

[AirMax95]

3 years at brooklyn college is far from educated...theres no doubt hes smart, but hes not educated, theres a difference

I do not agree......

You can be educated outside of book smart. I see your point clearly, but I guess he lacks a higher institutional education :blah:

Either way he knows his stuff, just does not use it in the best way very often. I really get tired of him talking sometimes, lol

["B"]

But yet his assistant wasn't a "trophy" to go after. Everyone is trying to comment on the matter for their 5 sec's of fame. I would glady trade AS and JJ's lives, if it would bring back MLK Jr. I guess people forget that this endfighting is against his movement. As long as there are people that will throw out racist slurs, as well as people there to pull the race card, THIS SHIT WILL NEVER END!

I agree

["B"]

i hardly care, nor want to hear about blacks being called niggers.....although obviously way out of place, and wrong, it is widely and openly used by the black community, which noone can or will deny....double standard ftl

BINGO

[Evil Goat]

You know how many times I have been called a "cracker" "whiteboy" "redneck"or hill billy" in my life? I don't give a fuck what people say about me. Were they nappy headed hos in your opinion?


good point

[AirMax95]

But yet his assistant wasn't a "trophy" to go after. Everyone is trying to comment on the matter for their 5 sec's of fame. I would glady trade AS and JJ's lives, if it would bring back MLK Jr. I guess people forget that this endfighting is against his movement. As long as there are people that will throw out racist slurs, as well as people there to pull the race card, THIS SHIT WILL NEVER END!


I agree, both should have received some sort of punishment, so to speak.

If the race card would go away, the world would move just a little closer to being better off.....

[twinj]

This and every race subject is pointless. Everyone is just spinning wheels. You can say " Nappy head hoes aint that bad". blah blah, but your peope didn't get the shit beat out of them and treated like shit for years. if the situation turn around then. everyone will understand why it got blown out of poportion.

^^You are right it will never end. It goes back to 1st grade don't call someone a name you don't want to be called, treat people the way you want to be treated. That is it PERIOD it ain't that hard.

[Kamikaze]

You know how many times I have been called a "cracker" "whiteboy" "redneck"or hill billy" in my life? I don't give a fuck what people say about me.

Okay. Then why does it matter that you are a part of the "hated minority"?


Most "minorities" don't know how it really feels to be the "hated minority".

To me it seems like you're saying that minorities don't know what it feels like to be hated? I'm sure that can't be so.

[AirMax95]

i hardly care, nor want to hear about blacks being called niggers.....although obviously way out of place, and wrong, it is widely and openly used by the black community, which noone can or will deny....double standard ftl


there is the problem!!!!!! STOP GENERALIZING THE DAMN COMMUNTY, that is a form of the race card!!!!

I hear whites, asians, black, mexican,........using the word all the time!!!!!

There are ignorant people who use the word, not just one "community"!!!

quit that shit!!!!!! :police:

[Evil Goat]

This and every race subject is pointless. Everyone is just spinning wheels. You can say " Nappy head hoes aint that bad". blah blah, but your peope didn't get the shit beat out of them and treated like shit for years. if the situation turn around then. everyone will understand why it got blown out of poportion.

^^You are right it will never end. It goes back to 1st grade don't call someone a name you don't want to be called, treat people the way you want to be treated. That is it PERIOD it ain't that hard.


seriously....are you fucking kidding me? name one ancestor of yours, NOW, off the top of your head that was a slave....give me a fucking break...people act like the white male was the first person to come up w/ slavery...news fucking flash....slavery was around well before colonized america, and still exists in some parts of the world....dont give me that hooty tooty bullshit about your ancestors this your ancestors that....next thing you know youll want reparations....reparations via what else? the almighty dollar....to make your pain and suffering go away for something that may or may not have happened, b/c you probably dont know, to people in your family youre great grandparents didnt even fucking know

[Evil Goat]

there is the problem!!!!!! STOP GENERALIZING THE DAMN COMMUNTY, that is a form of the race card!!!!

I hear whites, asians, black, mexican,........using the word all the time!!!!!

There are ignorant people who use the word, not just one "community"!!!

quit that shit!!!!!! :police:


everyone generalizes races...its a given fact, you see one dumb white person you tend to think theyre all stupid...you see one black call another nigger, nigga, or some other variation of the word and you tend to think they all use it

youre right though, that is a part of the big problem

[twinj]

You misunderstood what i said. BASICALLY WHAT I SAID WAS TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED. IF I CALL YOU A BITCH THEN IT WILL BE A ARGUEMENT. THANK YOU SAMETHING I WAS THINKING.

[Evil Goat]

You misunderstood what i said. BASICALLY WHAT I SAID WAS TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED. IF I CALL YOU A BITCH THEN IT WILL BE A ARGUEMENT. THANK YOU SAMETHING I WAS THINKING.

i must have, b/c to me it clearly seemed like you were playing the race card, my apologies

[AirMax95]

seriously....are you fucking kidding me? name one ancestor of yours, NOW, off the top of your head that was a slave....give me a fucking break...people act like the white male was the first person to come up w/ slavery...news fucking flash....slavery was around well before colonized america, and still exists in some parts of the world....dont give me that hooty tooty bullshit about your ancestors this your ancestors that....next thing you know youll want reparations....reparations via what else? the almighty dollar....to make your pain and suffering go away for something that may or may not have happened, b/c you probably dont know, to people in your family youre great grandparents didnt even fucking know


I can name several family members, starting with my GGP's. I, personally, do not want reparations. I demand respect, which everyone in this country/world deserve when they earn it.......

[AirMax95]

everyone generalizes races...its a given fact, you see one dumb white person you tend to think theyre all stupid...you see one black call another nigger, nigga, or some other variation of the word and you tend to think they all use it

youre right though, that is a part of the big problem

Alot of people do; Myself and alot of my friends call each other by our given names, or nicknames. People on IA do it all the time. It seems though when an arguement or dispute arises, the race card gets pulled hella hard......

So, how about those Braves?

[twinj]

i must have, b/c to me it clearly seemed like you were playing the race card, my apologies

Its all good.

[Evil Goat]

I can name several family members, starting with my GGP's. I, personally, do not want reparations. I demand respect, which everyone in this country/world deserve when they earn it.......


youre 24...making your parents at their oldest to be what 60 when they had you? and your ggp's 60 when they had your parents....meaning your oldest ggp couldnt have been born more than 120-140 years ago....which takes us to the 1885 era....slavery was abolished in what 1866? and the first black senator elected in 1875....i hardly believe your ggp's were slaves...

now realistically...your ggps, whether alive or not, are probably in the area of 100 yrs old...making it even more unrealistic that they were slaves


regardless...if you work, pay your own bills, and only ask for help when it is a last resort.....you have my respect as a man just like myself

[Evil Goat]

So, how about those Braves?


kicking ass....too bad this will be andruws last season in a braves uniform... :cry:

[AirMax95]

youre 24...making your parents at their oldest to be what 60 when they had you? and your ggp's 60 when they had your parents....meaning your oldest ggp couldnt have been born more than 120-140 years ago....which takes us to the 1885 era....slavery was abolished in what 1866? and the first black senator elected in 1875....i hardly believe your ggp's were slaves...

now realistically...your ggps, whether alive or not, are probably in the area of 100 yrs old...making it even more unrealistic that they were slaves


regardless...if you work, pay your own bills, and only ask for help when it is a last resort.....you have my respect as a man just like myself


It was abolished, YES. Completely ended, NO. Well known fact in history.

[Evil Goat]

It was abolished, YES. Completely ended, NO. Well known fact in history.


really? im a history major and i dont remember going over that...yet in still...your ggps are probably not older than 100 or so....making them born in the early 1900's....hardly slave trading days

[Jaimecbr900]

#1. To all that are saying Sharpton and Jackson are not leaders:
A. Name some real leaders then.
B. Quit justifying their dumbass moves. The more you justify their moves and approve of what they do, the more it makes you look as stupid as them.

#2. How fair would you feel if I came in to YOUR work and told YOUR boss that something you said outloud was offensive to me and he FIRED YOU?

#3. Look up the definition of RACIST. Better yet, I'll do it and you just read it:

rac·ism /ˈreɪsɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rey-siz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

#4. Please someone, anyone.......show me where in the DEFINITION of RACISM does even mention that it is the reference to hair or to a certain race's hair or to making a stupid comment. Where? Someone please point it out. You can't, because it doesn't exist. Therefore, the comment was NOT racist. Stupid and thoughtless and crass, absolutely.

#5. Walk over to the mirror and look into it. Please tell me with a straight face and being honest that YOU have never said something that the second it rolled off your tongue you wished you could suck it back into your mouth. If you can, then you can certainly make a big deal about some has-been making a stupid comment. If you can't, then you should understand his position.

#6. Noone is condoning what the tard said. Most people just merely think it was blown out of proportion and used as something that it wasn't. All the excuses being thrown around still come right back to the same point: this should never have been made into a big racist media circus, period. Why can't we all, black/white/brown/green/blue, simply call a racist a racist? Why do people think that because you are Black you CAN'T be a racist? Some of the biggest racists are indeed BLACK.

#7. It is ignorant to say that something is wrong when one person says it and right when another says it with the only difference being the color of their skin. That is RACIST. SEE THE DEFINITION ABOVE if you don't understand that concept. I am so tired of hearing the same old lame excuses. Be men, be leaders, be examples, be positive role models and call jackasses by their name.....jackasses.

#8. The reality is that racism will never truly go away. You know why? See #1-#7 above. Just when you make a little head way we all end seeing Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson or any other racist being plastered all over the TV and the "millions" of believers right behind them cheering them on. The day that everyone stops all this political correctness gayness and stop tip toeing around the TRUTH is the day that humanity will move forward. Until then....we'll all be stuck in the same rut that has been around since the beginning of time.

[Evil Goat]

really? im a history major and i dont remember going over that...yet in still...your ggps are probably not older than 100 or so....making them born in the early 1900's....hardly slave trading days


thats b/c its an oppressed part of what our society teaches us today...youd know that if you were black


i kid, i kid, i was pulling your leg, just looking for some useless banter, got an early meeting at work tomorrow, so im out...ill have to check this thread out again tomorrow night

["B"]

Okay. Then why does it matter that you are a part of the "hated minority"?

Because I know what it really feels like.




To me it seems like you're saying that minorities don't know what it feels like to be hated? I'm sure that can't be so.

Most "minorities" don't, since they are no longer really minorities anyways. White people are becoming the minority now. I just happened to get a jump start on it because of where I lived.

One would think that the majority of people of color OTW (other than white) went to schools that were a majority OTW or atleast close to half.

[Evil Goat]

#1. To all that are saying Sharpton and Jackson are not leaders:
A. Name some real leaders then.

mlk...sharpton and jess jackoff will never, ever, be able to live up to what mlk was getting across to millions, and still is getting across to people now...mlk was a black figure that anyone could look up to, im a white male, and i have taught my son about 4 people, christ, mlk, josh gibson, and jackie robinson (last two were for my entertainment only, im a baseball fan)

[Jaimecbr900]

mlk...sharpton and jess jackoff will never, ever, be able to live up to what mlk was getting across to millions, and still is getting across to people now...mlk was a black figure that anyone could look up to, im a white male, and i have taught my son about 4 people, christ, mlk, josh gibson, and jackie robinson (last two were for my entertainment only, im a baseball fan)

True, but MLK is unfortunately no longer around. I'm willing to bet that if he were the Jesse's and Al's of the world wouldn't exist.

I mean I saw someone post that Al and Jesse weren't leaders, so I'm asking them to name who is then.

[BLK JDM]

Al S. and Jesse J. are puppets, politicos of the media if I may say so myself. If you take these 2 out the picture I believe Imus would still be fired.

Imus is a shock jock but I believe he still had some boundaries that were definitely crossed w/ him and his partner' comments. We all have limitations in what we can do and say at work. He met his limitation and was let go for that. At my job there have actually been a couple employees let go after making jokes toward another race and the person being joked upon was not the one that called HR. The person being joked upon thought it was funny and went along his merry way. It was a bystander of the white race that felt it was wrong for them to joke on a Persian Muslim. What Imus said was not a depiction of what MSNBC wants to represent so they let him go.

Now was his comment racist-that's borderline. It will always be a good debate. What it was-totally sexist! The problem w/ this whole discussion is that we are bringing too many outside influences of this matter into the conflict. It is a very well written debate w/ little whoring but I still think there si too much bias being thrown around.

No one has stated the opinions of the Rutger's players nor the rally at the campus.

We as Americans always cry this freedom of speech bullshit. There are limitations to everything. That's why our forefathers set up the Constitution to be ratified and as broad as possible. Remember we all go out and vote for a President but 99.9% aren't part of the Electoral College-so it aint really meaning shit. That's there to protect ourselves from our uneducated selves.

[Professor X]

I believe that the largest problem is the attempt to generalize a person or group of people by their race. I have said it before and I will say it again; it is wrong for anyone to be racist, sexist or make racist, sexist remarks. I could care less how many black people you hear call themselves the n-word. That means nothing about black people. How many honda guys have you seen call their cars fast and run 16.0 in the 1/4 mile. So are you gonna generalize all honda guys into that way of thinking. Better yet, Peter's car is gold so all gold Integra's with intercoolers are fast and make 800+whp. I don't know how many of you work in coporate america but you can be fired for having a calender of women if SOMEONE finds it offensive and files sexual harassment. That means, anyone can be fired for offendng someone. Moral of the story; watch what you say and do. But CNN isn't reporting on that therefore it isn't news :rolleyes:.

[Jaimecbr900]

Al S. and Jesse J. are puppets, politicos of the media if I may say so myself. If you take these 2 out the picture I believe Imus would still be fired.

Imus is a shock jock but I believe he still had some boundaries that were definitely crossed w/ him and his partner' comments. We all have limitations in what we can do and say at work. He met his limitation and was let go for that. At my job there have actually been a couple employees let go after making jokes toward another race and the person being joked upon was not the one that called HR. The person being joked upon thought it was funny and went along his merry way. It was a bystander of the white race that felt it was wrong for them to joke on a Persian Muslim. What Imus said was not a depiction of what MSNBC wants to represent so they let him go.

Now was his comment racist-that's borderline. It will always be a good debate. What it was-totally sexist! The problem w/ this whole discussion is that we are bringing too many outside influences of this matter into the conflict. It is a very well written debate w/ little whoring but I still think there si too much bias being thrown around.

No one has stated the opinions of the Rutger's players nor the rally at the campus.

We as Americans always cry this freedom of speech bullshit. There are limitations to everything. That's why our forefathers set up the Constitution to be ratified and as broad as possible. Remember we all go out and vote for a President but 99.9% aren't part of the Electoral College-so it aint really meaning shit. That's there to protect ourselves from our uneducated selves.

Look at my boy Jerel trying to sound all smart and stuff. :D

You do remember that I KNOW you, right?...... :lmfao:

JP, but you still wrong...... :taun:

Let's keep it real. What he said was stupid, but it wasn't racist and it wasn't enough to lose his job over. The only reason he lost his job was that the two race pimps beat on their drums loud enough to make a lot of the advertisers worry. If they don't do something, they will be perceived as racist. So from a business point of view, it would be stupid NOT to threaten to pull your ads. It's free advertising and a feather in your cap even if it didn't upset you all that much.

Bottomline is that he got fired over a double standard. If he was Black, he would still have a job today. Since he's an old white guy, he gets to lose his job and forever be linked as a racist. How's that fair? It's not. It's a double standard. Look at Charles Barkley, Spike Lee, Kanye West, and the rest of the Black entertainment industry. They constantly either subtly or very directly say derrogatory things about other races, yet noone has ever boycotted them or made a huge media frenzy enough for one of them to lose a job over. They say and do things 100x's worse than just uttering "nappy ho's", yet they grace the front of magazines, sell millions of records, and are filthy rich. Why the double standard?

If you're stupid, you're stupid....not white stupid or black stupid.....just stupid. Point is that when you advertise yourself as "do as I say, not as I do" then don't be surprised when that logic backfires on you.



I'm still proud of you for putting a very coherent, all be it wrong :D , post. That's my boy Jerel...... :goodjob: :D

[william_jeff]

imus should have filtered his mouth point blank end of story. if he did he would still have his job, fucking elephant man look a like

[Nemesis]

was that really called for?


YES :lmfao:

[BLK JDM]

While I may have played a dumb puppet at Mahdavi-I am very far from that. Remember I did go to Clemson for 2 years w/ a major in Mechanical Engineering and a minor in Political Science.

If I didn't have such a harsh(yes harsh) love for cars I'd definitely gone Political Science as my major at NYU.

Jaime whether it be a double standard or not I guarantee you-IT WAS WRONG IN MORE LIGHTS THAN RIGHT. Just because we are in a world where sex, drugs, violence, racism, sexism, and lack of values rule-does it make it right?

Charles Barkley, Kanye West, and Spike Lee are stars because of the boisterous things they say and do. They are not stars because of eloquence and ethics. The people that pay for their fame pay them to be general asswholes through and through. CNBC/MSNBC paid Imus to be an asswhole but WITH BOUNDARIES AND LIMITATIONS.

My point is not whether it was raciest or sexist because I'm biased and I don't run those corporations. But I guarantee you that there are very strong guidelines in his contract or the employee handbook that limit his freedom of speech. I know my employee handbook limits alot more than speech. Shit at my last job I didn't have an employee handbook but there was a lot more that was limited-not just speech and opinion. Most people know their boundaries when at work. I guarantee you he knew what he could and couldn't say. Whether it was a mistake or planned-it cost him his job. There are plenty of people in this world that lost their career because of a mistake or bad comment that wasn't excused. His was just brought out in the open.

Like Howard Stern he'll definitely get picked up by another station w/ looser values and restrictions and probably get a longer contract w/ more money.

[william_jeff]

While I may have played a dumb puppet at Mahdavi-I am very far from that. Remember I did go to Clemson for 2 years w/ a major in Mechanical Engineering and a minor in Political Science.

If I didn't have such a harsh(yes harsh) love for cars I'd definitely gone Political Science as my major at NYU.

Jaime whether it be a double standard or not I guarantee you-IT WAS WRONG IN MORE LIGHTS THAN RIGHT. Just because we are in a world where sex, drugs, violence, racism, sexism, and lack of values rule-does it make it right?

Charles Barkley, Kanye West, and Spike Lee are stars because of the boisterous things they say and do. They are not stars because of eloquence and ethics. The people that pay for their fame pay them to be general asswholes through and through. CNBC/MSNBC paid Imus to be an asswhole but WITH BOUNDARIES AND LIMITATIONS.

My point is not whether it was raciest or sexist because I'm biased and I don't run those corporations. But I guarantee you that there are very strong guidelines in his contract or the employee handbook that limit his freedom of speech. I know my employee handbook limits alot more than speech. Shit at my last job I didn't have an employee handbook but there was a lot more that was limited-not just speech and opinion. Most people know their boundaries when at work. I guarantee you he knew what he could and couldn't say. Whether it was a mistake or planned-it cost him his job. There are plenty of people in this world that lost their career because of a mistake or bad comment that wasn't excused. His was just brought out in the open.

Like Howard Stern he'll definitely get picked up by another station w/ looser values and restrictions and probably get a longer contract w/ more money.

+1

but why does jdm have to be black:ninja:

[Kamikaze]

It's a double standard. Look at Charles Barkley, Spike Lee, Kanye West, and the rest of the Black entertainment industry.

Generalize much? :rolleyes:

[BLK JDM]

+1

but why does jdm have to be black:ninja:


Well actually my hatch was JDM'd out but it was white. How ironic. I'm black and I was(and probably still am) a JDM whore. Just don't have anything to JDM out. I don't know how to JDM out a 99 Tahoe.

[AirMax95]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
It's a double standard. Look at Charles Barkley, Spike Lee, Kanye West, and the rest of the Black entertainment industry.



Generalize much?

Damn, beat me to it.........

[Kamikaze]

Damn, beat me to it.........

Yeah it's ironic how people preach that stereotyping and generalizing is wrong, but yet it appears in their posts. :???:

[william_jeff]

Well actually my hatch was JDM'd out but it was white. How ironic. I'm black and I was(and probably still am) a JDM whore. Just don't have anything to JDM out. I don't know how to JDM out a 99 Tahoe.

RHD and throw a GT-R sticker on it:lmfao:

[Hundo®]

what's an IMUS? am i missing out on quality television?

[Jaimecbr900]

Generalize much? :rolleyes:

I'll tell you what.....why don't you answer my damn questions instead of avoiding them? Maybe that will help rather than you yourself being ambiguous and trying to straddle the fence. Either you think that something is right or wrong or you don't. COLOR/RACE should have NOTHING to do with that decision. If you disagree, then speak up and say why. If not, then quit defending the actions of people who do that very thing. Every single person I've named specifically does that very thing.

Is that specific enough for you or should I break it down further? :rolleyes:

[Jaimecbr900]

Yeah it's ironic how people preach that stereotyping and generalizing is wrong, but yet it appears in their posts. :???:

Actually the irony is that you pointed out that neither Jesse nor Al are "leaders" according to you, yet you have failed to answer my question as to who is then.

[Jaimecbr900]

Damn, beat me to it.........

Beat you to what exactly?

You are actually the biggest supporter of the two jackasses in this whole thread. What exactly does that say about YOU?

You need to do a little research and quit getting sucked into the vortex full of lies your buddies are spitting out to any camera w/i a 10 mi radius. Al Sharpton "smart"??? Him and Jesse keeping the racial injustices from being forgotten??? Please, they have torn far more DOWN than any real Black leaders ever built. They are out for themselves, period. If you want to put them up on a pedestal on your mantle, be my guest. You certainly aren't alone, and that's exactly what's sad.

[thinkfast®]

yea where were they when them Duke boys got the charges dropped

Sharpton and Jackson were the first on the scene, coalition and all

Im glad he's off the air tho, noone that fug should be on cable

[AirMax95]

Beat you to what exactly?

You are actually the biggest supporter of the two jackasses in this whole thread. What exactly does that say about YOU?

You need to do a little research and quit getting sucked into the vortex full of lies your buddies are spitting out to any camera w/i a 10 mi radius. Al Sharpton "smart"??? Him and Jesse keeping the racial injustices from being forgotten??? Please, they have torn far more DOWN than any real Black leaders ever built. They are out for themselves, period. If you want to put them up on a pedestal on your mantle, be my guest. You certainly aren't alone, and that's exactly what's sad.

How do you figure I am supporting them? I said before they were sucked into mainstream and greed, they did do good/great acts. NOW, they both are in it for who knows what reason. I was agreeing with 90% of what you were saying man!

Al is smart, get over it. Is he using it in the best manner, NO; I got over that!

In the last decade I question alot of their decisions, probably further back than that. Back in the King days up to the late 1980's, Jesse was doing great things. Now I do not feel strongly of their actions.

And SIX beat me to noticing the GENERALIZATION of people.......

[Jaimecbr900]

How do you figure I am supporting them?

Ummmm, see below?.... :thinking:



I said before they were sucked into mainstream and greed, they did do good/great acts. NOW, they both are in it for who knows what reason. I was agreeing with 90% of what you were saying man!

They may have done one or two good things in their life, but who hasn't. Even Adolf Hitler fed some hungry Germans once.



Al is smart, get over it.

Your threshold for someone being "smart" must be wayyyy lower than mine then.



And SIX beat me to noticing the GENERALIZATION of people.......

Did yall want me to name each and every Black "entertainer" that had said something derrogatory about females, whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, cows, horses, buses?????? That would take all day, hence the generalization. It's obvious yall didn't get the real important part of what I was saying which was "don't complain if "do as I say, not as I do" comes back to bite you on the behind". So if that's all you two got was that I was generalizing, yall missed my point.

[TIGERJC]

I keep shit simple



























FUCK WHITEY :D

[AirMax95]

Ummmm, see below?.... :thinking:




They may have done one or two good things in their life, but who hasn't. Even Adolf Hitler fed some hungry Germans once.




Your threshold for someone being "smart" must be wayyyy lower than mine then.




Did yall want me to name each and every Black "entertainer" that had said something derrogatory about females, whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, cows, horses, buses?????? That would take all day, hence the generalization. It's obvious yall didn't get the real important part of what I was saying which was "don't complain if "do as I say, not as I do" comes back to bite you on the behind". So if that's all you two got was that I was generalizing, yall missed my point.

Stop chopping my post! I said he is smart and does not use it in the best manner...

Hitler = bad comparison, horrible actually

And you also said "and the rest of the Black entertainment industry"........c'mon

Also, by me saying that they have done good acts does not mean I support them! Geez, don't twist the words.....

[Jaimecbr900]

Stop chopping my post! I said he is smart and does not use it in the best manner...

Hitler = bad comparison, horrible actually

And you also said "and the rest of the Black entertainment industry"........c'mon

Also, by me saying that they have done good acts does not mean I support them! Geez, don't twist the words.....

#1. I'll reply however I want.
#2. Again, you obviously didn't get Hitler, so I'll break it down for you. YOU said "they'd done SOME good before...", so in response to that I gave you the analogy of HITLER did SOME good before too but that obviously doesn't make him someone to even remotely look up to, right???? Get it now? :rolleyes:
#3. So what if I said the rest of the Black entertainment industry, that's what I meant. I have NEVER seen a single producer, song writer, publicist, movie producer, actor (except Bill Cosby), rapper, singer, music store (except with the 2live Crew thing), comedian, or just about anyone associated with entertaining anyone come out and PUBLICLY and LOUDLY and PROFOUNDLY protest to music/movies/comedic shows/TV using derrogatory terms towards ANYONE. They can bad mouth whites, women, blacks, hispanics, gov't, retarded people, sex, penis size.....it doesn't matter. They have carte blanche to say and do whatever they want and noone ever complains.....UNTIL.....it is someone of a different color/race as they are. THEN the gloves come off and everyone is utterly offended and their pussys hurt because someone said what they HEAR and SEE everyday, just NOW they don't agree with it or find it funny only because of WHO said it.

That sir, is BS. Don't agree? Tough titties. That's MY opinion as I've observed it. I don't like people who talk out of both sides of their mouth. Pick a side and stay there. Don't be riding the fence and then choosing a side based on color. THAT is racist. There should not be a double standard. Name a time when a double standard is EVER good. Name it.

[Kamikaze]

I'll tell you what.....why don't you answer my damn questions instead of avoiding them? Maybe that will help rather than you yourself being ambiguous and trying to straddle the fence. Either you think that something is right or wrong or you don't.

Dude, don't get your panties in a bunch. It's the internet. You should've said something instead of playing games. If you want to get my attention, speak up next time. :goodjob:

I think what Imus said was wrong. Whether it was racist in intent is something I can't answer because I'm not him. I think anyone who is dumb enough to make a remark over the public air waves like he did deserves to be punished. Although I don't think what he said was bad enough for him to loose his job, he should've been suspended for a lot more than 2 weeks and possibly fined.

Regarding the "fence", I don't know what you're talking about. I meant everything I said in all of my responses. Obviously you either misread my posts or maybe you just don't understand English. :???:


Once again, who gives a fuck about Al Sharpton? Find something else to talk about and no I don't mean Jesse.

I thought by saying that, any normal person would get the jest that I don't like Al or Jesse.


COLOR/RACE should have NOTHING to do with that decision.

You're exactly right. But I live in this little place called Reality. In our town we know that when the shit hits the fan, we're gonna side with our own people even if they're wrong. Is it right? No. Is it fair? No. But shit, neither is life.



I hope this post is concise and to the point. I tried not to use any big words so it would cut down on the confusion. :goodjob:

[AirMax95]

#1. I'll reply however I want.
#2. Again, you obviously didn't get Hitler, so I'll break it down for you. YOU said "they'd done SOME good before...", so in response to that I gave you the analogy of HITLER did SOME good before too but that obviously doesn't make him someone to even remotely look up to, right???? Get it now? :rolleyes:
#3. So what if I said the rest of the Black entertainment industry, that's what I meant. I have NEVER seen a single producer, song writer, publicist, movie producer, actor (except Bill Cosby), rapper, singer, music store (except with the 2live Crew thing), comedian, or just about anyone associated with entertaining anyone come out and PUBLICLY and LOUDLY and PROFOUNDLY protest to music/movies/comedic shows/TV using derrogatory terms towards ANYONE. They can bad mouth whites, women, blacks, hispanics, gov't, retarded people, sex, penis size.....it doesn't matter. They have carte blanche to say and do whatever they want and noone ever complains.....UNTIL.....it is someone of a different color/race as they are. THEN the gloves come off and everyone is utterly offended and their pussys hurt because someone said what they HEAR and SEE everyday, just NOW they don't agree with it or find it funny only because of WHO said it.

That sir, is BS. Don't agree? Tough titties. That's MY opinion as I've observed it. I don't like people who talk out of both sides of their mouth. Pick a side and stay there. Don't be riding the fence and then choosing a side based on color. THAT is racist. There should not be a double standard. Name a time when a double standard is EVER good. Name it.

Sorry, no fence riding here. I am laying facts, I am on no ones side.

I do not like Generalization......everyone is different.

I do not like Al and Jesse; although they have done good things, they have done crappy things.

All of the Black entertainment idustry does not fall into the category you are laying them in. Many of them do "sing a different tune", sadly it does not play as much because it is not what America reacts to.

Stop Generalizing, please.

Oh, Hitler killed people......so not cool :no:

[Jaimecbr900]

Dude, don't get your panties in a bunch. It's the internet. You should've said something instead of playing games. If you want to get my attention, speak up next time. :goodjob:

I don't play games. If my words were too hard for you to understand, go to www.dictionary.com and follow along next time. :rolleyes:


I think what Imus said was wrong. Whether it was racist in intent is something I can't answer because I'm not him. I think anyone who is dumb enough to make a remark over the public air waves like he did deserves to be punished. Although I don't think what he said was bad enough for him to loose his job, he should've been suspended for a lot more than 2 weeks and possibly fined.

Then why did you say that he got what he deserved then? He deserved to be called a tard and maybe to fined for being a prick, but losing his job???

Again, neither you nor Airmax have bothered to answer any of my questions directly.....like how would YOU like it if someone came in and got YOU fired for something YOU said that made THEM angry?


Regarding the "fence", I don't know what you're talking about. I meant everything I said in all of my responses. Obviously you either misread my posts or maybe you just don't understand English. :???:

I promise you don't want to try to go there with me.

I said you're riding the fence because in one post you say one thing and then in the very next post you contradict yourself and say something else. That's why I said to stop riding the fence.

One minute you say that it wasn't that big a deal, the next you say that it was racist. Pick a side. Racism IS a big deal.



You're exactly right. But I live in this little place called Reality. In our town we know that when the shit hits the fan, we're gonna side with our own people even if they're wrong. Is it right? No. Is it fair? No. But shit, neither is life.

Finally......there we have it.

This is the exact reason why there is and will always be a divide between every race here in America. I'm glad you finally admitted that you DO ride the fence.

If I'm exactly right as I put it, I'm just right. I'm not Spanish right. I'm not Brown right. I'm just right. Right? You even agreed with me on that, right? Right.

So then how come you suddenly have a case of IBS of the mouth and spout out what you just did. So let me get this straight; You will side with someone, even when you KNOW they are wrong, just because of the color of their skin or where they came from????? Again, go to www.dictionary.com, look up the definition of RACISM, read it, and see how it applies to you.

Wrong is wrong my friend. REGARDLESS, not BECAUSE, of color or race. So if you think that its right to side with someone based on the color of their skin, you are no better than Al nor Jesse or any other racist because that is EXACTLY what they do.


I hope this post is concise and to the point. I tried not to use any big words so it would cut down on the confusion. :goodjob:

I used big words, but I gave you reference points to go find out what they mean. If you need additional sources of help, let me know. :rolleyes:

[Jaimecbr900]

All of the Black entertainment idustry does not fall into the category you are laying them in. Many of them do "sing a different tune", sadly it does not play as much because it is not what America reacts to.

And you may be absolutely right about that, as a matter of fact if you look above you (my reply to Six2Six) will see clearly why it is that certain things get the lime light and others don't.



Stop Generalizing, please.

I can't explain more clearly why I used a general statement. If you want specific examples, I'd be happy to oblige.


Oh, Hitler killed people......so not cool :no:

Dead is dead. Riots incited by rants of racism have KILLED people just as dead as the Jews that Hitler gassed.

Again, I can't explain how the ANALOGY still escapes you. Hitler killed people due to his racism. All the race pimps encourage people that already have racist tendencies into having an excuse to do harm to other people, including killing them. Do you honestly think that any side (black, white, brown, or yellow) has not used the excuse given them by such instigators to commit murder???? Look up your history books. Look at what happened during the Civil Rights era in the South. Why did both Black and White people get killed? Racism. Why did Hitler kill Jews? Racism. Why did people die during racial riots of the 60's and even the 90's? Racism. ALL of which was what??? Further instigated by someone that played on existing thoughts.

Get it now?

[JITB]

Most of the folks who are putting al the pressure on him about getting fired and getting punished. Said that its kind of messed up that hes really being used as a example, because this has happened before and happens allt he time like u all say. But when he says some idiotic stuff trying to be funny it was just that time to really say enough is enough since most folks have been gettin a slap on the wrist and everyone forgets about it.


And abo the whole duke thing, that everyone keeps blaming jackson and sharpton. it was really the North carolina DA, that rushed the guilty talk. And tried hard to get those guys locked up. Because he was tryin to get the black vote in NC, and was using this case to stay in office.

[Jaimecbr900]

Most of the folks who are putting al the pressure on him about getting fired and getting punished. Said that its kind of messed up that hes really being used as a example, because this has happened before and happens allt he time like u all say. But when he says some idiotic stuff trying to be funny it was just that time to really say enough is enough since most folks have been gettin a slap on the wrist and everyone forgets about it.

True. I hadn't really looked at it from that angle. So you're basically saying that it has to start somewhere, right. If so, +1. :goodjob:



And abo the whole duke thing, that everyone keeps blaming jackson and sharpton. it was really the North carolina DA, that rushed the guilty talk. And tried hard to get those guys locked up. Because he was tryin to get the black vote in NC, and was using this case to stay in office.


Damn it!!! Just as I was about to +1 you for the previous statement, you go and do this. :D

Yes, the DA is a tard and is probably gonna get disbarred for it. Good! Serves him right. He was trying to send some innocent guys to prison. But do you not remember Jesse Jackson coming in and immidietly promising to give that girl (that as it turns out was lying) a scholarship for her "ordeal"??? Al Sharpton also chimed in on that one too if I recall correctly. So they were in the fray too. That's the point, they can't keep their noses out of anything that has a Black person and a White person as the actors. It's like automatic. :screwy:

I'll have to find the video somewhere. I saw them on the news when they announced that they were dropping the charges. Unlike their 2 hours worth of coverage for the Imus thing, it was only like a 3 sec blurb as part of the Duke story.

I'm going to find it to post it.

[JITB]

True. I hadn't really looked at it from that angle. So you're basically saying that it has to start somewhere, right. If so, +1. :goodjob:





Damn it!!! Just as I was about to +1 you for the previous statement, you go and do this. :D

Yes, the DA is a tard and is probably gonna get disbarred for it. Good! Serves him right. He was trying to send some innocent guys to prison. But do you not remember Jesse Jackson coming in and immidietly promising to give that girl (that as it turns out was lying) a scholarship for her "ordeal"??? Al Sharpton also chimed in on that one too if I recall correctly. So they were in the fray too. That's the point, they can't keep their noses out of anything that has a Black person and a White person as the actors. It's like automatic. :screwy:

I'll have to find the video somewhere. I saw them on the news when they announced that they were dropping the charges. Unlike their 2 hours worth of coverage for the Imus thing, it was only like a 3 sec blurb as part of the Duke story.

I'm going to find it to post it.


ya i heard about the scholarship thing, but that whole situation was bad to begin with. but besides black and white, when a girl screams rape.. everyone always believes the female before the evidence is collected and investigated.

BTW i always try to delete the media factor out of all the situatsion thats why i never mention anything about them. because there intentions are never good.

[Doppelgänger]

Wow, to all the people who got offended by the comments, i give you a big FUCK YOU. This is America and we have a thing called freedom of speech. If you don't like it, turn it the fuck off...really. And fuck these racist asshole who are saying his comments were 'racist', they were fucking not you grabastic piles of amphibian inbred shit. God damn this shit pisses me off. Seriously, he made a comment about a TEAM not a FUCKING RACE! But all the racist black people go and cry 'racist' and get heard.

Am i racist? NO. If people are going to be ignorant and stupid, thats what they will be. I think Al Sharpton and everyone that agrees with him are a bunch on NAPPY HEADED HOES.... god i'd love to say that to his face. Next black person that says something like that should be plastered all over the news as beign racist.... it would be the same god damn thing.

Fuck you america, fuck you white people and fuck you black people and fuck all races that made the whole idea of racism such a fucking TABOO subject.. thats all it fucking is... TAB FUCKING BOO.

[Kamikaze]

I don't play games. If my words were too hard for you to understand, go to www.dictionary.com (http://www.dictionary.com) and follow along next time. :rolleyes:

oOoOoOo BURN! Not. Yet another feeble attempt to try and insult me with "class" lol. You're really just making yourself look like you can't come up with a meaningful response so you use a little crass remark instead. Grow up.



Then why did you say that he got what he deserved then? He deserved to be called a tard and maybe to fined for being a prick, but losing his job???

He got what his employers thought was a proper punishment. Would I have done the same? Probably not. But my name isn't MSNBC.


Again, neither you nor Airmax have bothered to answer any of my questions directly.....like how would YOU like it if someone came in and got YOU fired for something YOU said that made THEM angry?

I'd probably be angry at first but I'd eventually get over it and move on. It's not the end of the world and I'm sure he knows that.


I promise you don't want to try to go there with me.

If it's a battle of wits you want, I'm always game. ;)


I said you're riding the fence because in one post you say one thing and then in the very next post you contradict yourself and say something else. That's why I said to stop riding the fence.

One minute you say that it wasn't that big a deal, the next you say that it was racist. Pick a side. Racism IS a big deal.

Like I said above, I don't know if he was trying to be racist or not. At first I perceived it that way, but then I gave it some thought. He said something stupid, the wrong people heard it and it backfired.



Finally......there we have it.

This is the exact reason why there is and will always be a divide between every race here in America. I'm glad you finally admitted that you DO ride the fence.

If that's how you define riding the fence, by living in reality, then whatever. You can think that if you want. I won't lose any sleep over it.


So then how come you suddenly have a case of IBS of the mouth and spout out what you just did. So let me get this straight; You will side with someone, even when you KNOW they are wrong, just because of the color of their skin or where they came from????? Again, go to www.dictionary.com (http://www.dictionary.com), look up the definition of RACISM, read it, and see how it applies to you.

Wrong is wrong my friend. REGARDLESS, not BECAUSE, of color or race. So if you think that its right to side with someone based on the color of their skin, you are no better than Al nor Jesse or any other racist because that is EXACTLY what they do.

Don't give me that bullshit. Racism defined:

A belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

Where did I say I was better than someone else? That's right. I didn't. All I did was point out how life REALLY is. But yet you go and twist words again, like you did to Airmax, to make you seem like the good guy.

[Kamikaze]

LOL CBS just fired his ass. :lmao:

[Doppelgänger]

Al Sharpton should be fired for being racist.

[Kamikaze]

Al Sharpton should be fired for being racist.

Does he even have a real job (i.e. where he gets a paycheck)? I thought he lived off his groupies' donations. :lmfao:

[Doppelgänger]

Does he even have a real job (i.e. where he gets a paycheck)? I thought he lived off his groupies' donations. :lmfao:
Wouldn't that make him a con-artist??

[Kamikaze]

Wouldn't that make him a con-artist??

Maybe so. Poor groupies. :no:

[Professor X]

I made a statement a few pages ago about sexual harassment and how it works in coporate america. This situation is no different other than the media attention. It doesn't matter that I don't see anything wrong with a Matco tools calender showing women in a bathing suit. What matters is it may be offensive to some. People make attempts everyday NOT to offend people; whether because of race, sex, or culture.

Imus was not fired because of Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. He was fired because he crossed a line that his employer was not willing to cross with him. Plain and simple. However what I see here is justification for why "it shouldn't be that big of a deal".

It is very sad that when people think of African Americans, they jump right past the good people and qoute the most controversial people of the race. It never changes.

I'm sure most of you were around a month ago when South Park had the N-word episode. What I'm sure none of you saw on CNN! was the group of African Americans who are trying to BAN the N-word. Imagine that, African Americans that don't use ignorant language; and it wasn't even that hard to find.

[Kamikaze]

It is very sad that when people think of African Americans, they jump right past the good people and qoute the most controversial people of the race. It never changes.

They do that because without Al and Jesse, they have no argument.


I'm sure most of you were around a month ago when South Park had the N-word episode. What I'm sure none of you saw on CNN! was the group of African Americans who are trying to BAN the N-word. Imagine that, African Americans that don't use ignorant language; and it wasn't even that hard to find.

Imagine that! I thought all Black people thought like Al and Jesse and walked around calling each other "nigga" all day? Next you'll be telling me that all White people aren't racists. :crazy:


/sarcasm :D

[tony]

I think everyone in this thread white or black have agreed on Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson but people are still harping on them in this thread and calling them racist.

I will ask this though, if Al Sharpton didn't grab on to this issue would Imus still have a job?

[tony]

They do that because without Al and Jesse, they have no argument.



Imagine that! I thought all Black people thought like Al and Jesse and walked around calling each other "nigga" all day? Next you'll be telling me that all White people aren't racists. :crazy:


/sarcasm :D


lol +1

[Kamikaze]

I will ask this though, if Al Sharpton didn't grab on to this issue would Imus still have a job?

Without the media attention, I believe he'd still be employed.

[Professor X]

I don't know if he would still have his job, but it definately wouldn't have been as big a deal. It's kind of like the recall we have at my job (Toyota). There is a campaign because of a law suit filed against Toyota about certain engines sludging up. Some people were told to pay thousands of dollars to take care of a situation that lay with the design. However, when people started complaining Toyota had to act to protect their image. Things like this happen all the time in business so I don't understand how all these great business minded individuals can't understand it.

[tony]

Without the media attention, I believe he'd still be employed.

Then apparently he is good for something, I may not agree with his agenda but at the end of the day what needed to be done is done.. one less idiot on the air.

[JITB]

Without the media attention, I believe he'd still be employed.


probrably so, the whole situation is brought out by the media. IF we all agree it was wrong for him to say it in the first place im happy. WE all know it was stupid shit that he said and pointless. Thats all that matters, and we all know everything else is media.....and more bs to get us to forget about bush ruining our country....lol

[Kamikaze]

and more bs to get us to forget about bush ruining our country....lol

What?!? I have total faith in our country's leader...

http://www.importatlanta.com/upload/files/452/bushbook.jpg

:D

[nightracer]

your first paragraph made zero sense

the second did, just don't listen to him if you don't like it. If the people bitching at him actually knew about him they would know that he gives a lot of money to charities and he doesn't do it as a publicity stunt to try and make himself look better.

white people can have nappy hair too, so explain to me how its racist

and i keep picking on Al and Jessie because they are the two morons who stick their necks out the furthest
Actually Europeans have straight hair and Africans have corse or "nappy" hair as you call it. "Nappy" hair is indigenous to Africa as it keeps the head cooler and hotter climates whereas straight hair is a genetic adaptation to Europe and Asia to keep the head warm in colder whether.

If a white person has nappy hair they have black blood in them somewhere along the lines which according to TRADITIONAL AMERICAN STANDARDS makes them black. So no white people cannot just sprout naps and waves at random.


We are actually one race with geo-genetic adaptation traits and huge cultural differences. There is no piece of evidence that proves there are actually different races of humans, actually what the hell is a race? A competition to die faster? Thats just some punk ass European divisive shit to get you to fight each other in the break room while they pump your asscheeks for money on the shift.

[nightracer]

Why do white people call black people racist when black people, in America, have no viable power to negatively manipulate any ethnicity (or "race" as you call it)?

Why do white people care what Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson say? Do Al Sharpoton and Jesse Jackson impinge upon your rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Maybe they impede people's ability to be racists but thats nothing Jesus Christ condemn.

[Kamikaze]

Thats just some punk ass European divisive shit to get you to fight each other in the break room while they pump your asscheeks for money on the shift.

lol +1

[Evil Goat]

Does he even have a real job (i.e. where he gets a paycheck)? I thought he lived off his groupies' donations. :lmfao:


correction, it was jesse jacksons illegitimate kid and mistress that lived off of groupie donations :D

[Jaimecbr900]

oOoOoOo BURN! Not. Yet another feeble attempt to try and insult me with "class" lol. You're really just making yourself look like you can't come up with a meaningful response so you use a little crass remark instead. Grow up.

Feeble? Not hardly. You say that I'm not making any responses, yet you have something to say right back to me everytime. Did I hit a nerve? Good.

Now answer the damn questions you yourself were blubbering about 10 pgs ago. Name your so called positive Black community leaders. If you don't want to claim the bad ones, which ones DO you claim? Let's start there.

Either step up to the plate or get off the field. You put it out there, but now can't back it up. Typical.




He got what his employers thought was a proper punishment. Would I have done the same? Probably not. But my name isn't MSNBC.

All he got was the backlash of a media feeding frenzy. Had he been Black, he'd still have a job. Had Al and all his cronies not ran off with the bait, he'd still have his job. So therefore, it wasn't the "market" that determined anything. It was the media frenzy and the political correctness that got him fired. If you think that's cool, good for you. I don't.




I'd probably be angry at first but I'd eventually get over it and move on. It's not the end of the world and I'm sure he knows that.

Why be angry? Didn't you just state above that his employer make that decision? Then if YOUR employer made the same decision YOU would be "ok" with it and go home with your tail tucked between your legs and not say anything???? Doubt it.

Remember this all happened over SPOKEN WORDS. What the hell ever happened to "sticks and stones..."???? Do we live in a society now where NOONE'S feelings can EVER get hurt or they'll sue or call the NAACP or ACLU or their Congressman to restore those precious "feelings"? And you say that I need to grow up??? :rolleyes:




If it's a battle of wits you want, I'm always game. ;)

Ball's in your court.




Like I said above, I don't know if he was trying to be racist or not. At first I perceived it that way, but then I gave it some thought. He said something stupid, the wrong people heard it and it backfired.

Amen. Now why do we have to have jackass central, the media, people losing jobs, and 5 days worth of front page news about it?? Why? THAT is exactly my point. All the other stuff is menucia, wall covering, smoke and mirrors. The bottomline is that this wasn't that big a deal to begin with and it got blown out of proportion into something that it never was, racist.

Let me ask you something. What if an Asian man walked up to your yellow car and said that he was "offended" by the color of your car because it just went to show that you thought he was inferior to you? What if you told him to fuck off, as you should, and then he sued you? What if the Asian Mafia League for the advancement of Oriental people only came and had a news conference naming YOU as a racist and demanded an appology and for you to lose your job? Would you still be "cool" with that? Would you think that was fair? Would you think that would shine a positive light onto the Asian community???? How is that any different than this? Something small got blown out of proportion when someone spun it to something it was never intended and shouldn't have.




If that's how you define riding the fence, by living in reality, then whatever. You can think that if you want. I won't lose any sleep over it.

I didn't say that to make you lose sleep. I posted it to prove you wrong. It served it's purpose since that's the best rebuttal you can come back with.




Don't give me that bullshit. Racism defined:

A belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

Where did I say I was better than someone else? That's right. I didn't. All I did was point out how life REALLY is. But yet you go and twist words again, like you did to Airmax, to make you seem like the good guy.

Wrong again.

YOU said that "reality" was that when "shit hit the fan" REGARDLESS of who is right or wrong, "people" always choose to back up "their own kind". Did YOU not say that????

Let's see, I'm going to quote you word for word for accuracy. YOU said:

" In our town we know that when the shit hits the fan, we're gonna side with our own people even if they're wrong. Is it right? No. Is it fair? No. But shit, neither is life. "


HMMMMM, who exactly is YOUR "own people"??? :thinking:

So let's review, shall we?

YOU said that "when the shit hits the fan" YOU will side with "your own people" even if they are "wrong" just because why exactly????? Is it because you like being wrong? Or maybe its that you feel "YOUR OWN" is somehow entitled to your support no matter what because they are "like you"???? And that is NOT being racist because "your own people" in your language refers to someone of a DIFFERENT race? Maybe, but I'm willing to bet not.

So to review you seem to think that you should back up someone eventhough you think they're wrong simply because they are "like you"????? And "like you" in YOUR world means......hmmm....I'll take a stab in the dark and say......same COLOR as you? Maybe same RACE as you? Maybe?

Hmmmmm, that is sooooo far off the DEFINITION of RACISTS that I don't know how anyone could EVER think that is the most racist comment in this thread so far.

You know what you look like right now? Just like a white guy backpedalling and stumbling all over their tongue telling people he's NOT racist because he has 2 Black friends that came over to his house one time. :rolleyes:

Whatever. You want to argue with me over something that in essence we agree should of never gotten to this point, yet there it is. TV stations fired him, radio stations fired him, he's labeled a racist for the rest of his life.....all over two simple words; "nappy" and "ho's". :rolleyes:

The "ho's" part I can understand, but the nappy part is like telling someone you don't like the color of their shirt. WHO CARES??? I like it, so I wear it. Are they REALLY nappy headed ho's???? If not, why are you so up in arms about someone calling you something YOU KNOW YOU ARE NOT???? He's the one that looks retarded. All they had to do was come on TV one day and said, "you know what? I'm a PHD in Astrophysics with a minor in Internal Medicine. YOU sir are an idiot for calling me something I'm not. I'm 10x's as smart as you will ever be, and now EVERYONE knows that. Have a good life...the last couple of years you have left!!!". The end.

Not only would they have shown class and beat him at his own game, but they would have spun a completely positive perception of Black community to boot. Win, Win situation and it wasn't even all that hard. Argue with me on that too. :rolleyes:

[Jaimecbr900]

It's ironic, but I stand corrected. Not totally, but partly.

It seems Al Sharpton is not as dumb as I once thought. Don't know if this is going to work, but I'll try. This link contains a video of a news conference he held in front of CBS today. In it he says exactly what I've been saying all along. EVERYBODY, REGARDLESS OF COLOR, needs to quit using derrogatory terms towards others. I'm sure he'll put his foot in his mouth soon enough, but we'll see. He did prove one of my theories correct though. He admitted this had nothing to do with Imus alone, the bigger picture was "racism". Again, he needs a dictionary to look up what racism is in another world but his.

Either way, enjoy.


http://web.instream.com/servlets/getPlaylist?ver=2.0&nwid=11375&audit=param&format=Video-Windows-300-400x300&level=BellSouth:Bellsouth.net&content=mms://media.bellsouth.net/wmp/turnercnn/sharpton.imus.firing.reaction.cnn.20070412.bellsou th_176x144_50k.wmv&iab=Banner_160x600&resp=ASX&mswmext=.asx

[Kamikaze]

Feeble? Not hardly. You say that I'm not making any responses, yet you have something to say right back to me everytime. Did I hit a nerve? Good.

Now answer the damn questions you yourself were blubbering about 10 pgs ago. Name your so called positive Black community leaders. If you don't want to claim the bad ones, which ones DO you claim? Let's start there.

Either step up to the plate or get off the field. You put it out there, but now can't back it up. Typical.

I'm sorry, I don't get excited over something someone says on the internet. I' have better things to use my energy on. ;)

The people I consider leaders are not famous or wealthy. They don't get on TV and whoop and holler about things that really don't matter. Since there's no "movement" anymore, there isn't a specific leader of the Black community. There's still a lot of work to be done but I don't think it's fair to dump the responsibility on a few set people. It's up to the community to do what needs to be done in order to achieve their goal(s).

Does that answer your damn question?


All he got was the backlash of a media feeding frenzy. Had he been Black, he'd still have a job. Had Al and all his cronies not ran off with the bait, he'd still have his job. So therefore, it wasn't the "market" that determined anything. It was the media frenzy and the political correctness that got him fired. If you think that's cool, good for you. I don't.

No shit. I said pretty much the exact same thing I believe in my first response to this whole Imus drama.


Why be angry? Didn't you just state above that his employer make that decision? Then if YOUR employer made the same decision YOU would be "ok" with it and go home with your tail tucked between your legs and not say anything???? Doubt it.

If I was angry, don't you think I would say something? Just because I said I would get over it doesn't mean I wouldn't let as many people as possible know how I felt about the situation.


Remember this all happened over SPOKEN WORDS. What the hell ever happened to "sticks and stones..."???? Do we live in a society now where NOONE'S feelings can EVER get hurt or they'll sue or call the NAACP or ACLU or their Congressman to restore those precious "feelings"? And you say that I need to grow up??? :rolleyes:

You act like I really give a shit. Hell, he wasn't talking to me. I didn't fire him. I don't play for the Rutgers. By next week I will probably have forgotten all about it.

And yes, you do need to grow up. You remind me of a child that's done something wrong even though his parents told him not to. Now he's trying to twist their words around so he can get out of trouble. That's all you do.


Let me ask you something. What if an Asian man walked up to your yellow car and said that he was "offended" by the color of your car because it just went to show that you thought he was inferior to you? What if you told him to fuck off, as you should, and then he sued you? What if the Asian Mafia League for the advancement of Oriental people only came and had a news conference naming YOU as a racist and demanded an appology and for you to lose your job? Would you still be "cool" with that? Would you think that was fair? Would you think that would shine a positive light onto the Asian community???? How is that any different than this? Something small got blown out of proportion when someone spun it to something it was never intended and shouldn't have.

But I like Asian people. :D


I didn't say that to make you lose sleep. I posted it to prove you wrong. It served it's purpose since that's the best rebuttal you can come back with.

Ok, Mr. Know-it-all. Everyone abandon your opinions and listen to this guy because he is the All Knowing. We must bow down and show reverence. :bow:



Wrong again.

YOU said that "reality" was that when "shit hit the fan" REGARDLESS of who is right or wrong, "people" always choose to back up "their own kind". Did YOU not say that????

Of course I said it. Why? Because it's true and you know it.


HMMMMM, who exactly is YOUR "own people"??? :thinking:

So let's review, shall we?

YOU said that "when the shit hits the fan" YOU will side with "your own people" even if they are "wrong" just because why exactly????? Is it because you like being wrong? Or maybe its that you feel "YOUR OWN" is somehow entitled to your support no matter what because they are "like you"???? And that is NOT being racist because "your own people" in your language refers to someone of a DIFFERENT race? Maybe, but I'm willing to bet not.

I was trying to give you an insight into how the world really operates, but I see that went over your head. Maybe I shouldn't have used pronouns because I really wasn't including my self when I said "we" or "our". I was trying to speak from a third-person point of view. Do you get it? Or do I need to make up a new scenario?


Hmmmmm, that is sooooo far off the DEFINITION of RACISTS that I don't know how anyone could EVER think that is the most racist comment in this thread so far.

You know what you look like right now? Just like a white guy backpedalling and stumbling all over their tongue telling people he's NOT racist because he has 2 Black friends that came over to his house one time. :rolleyes:

You don't know me or the people I associate with. My friends are made up of almost every general ethnic background. I do not need to prove to someone in my life as insignificant as you that I'm not racist.


Whatever. You want to argue with me over something that in essence we agree should of never gotten to this point, yet there it is. TV stations fired him, radio stations fired him, he's labeled a racist for the rest of his life.....all over two simple words; "nappy" and "ho's". :rolleyes:

The "ho's" part I can understand, but the nappy part is like telling someone you don't like the color of their shirt. WHO CARES??? I like it, so I wear it. Are they REALLY nappy headed ho's???? If not, why are you so up in arms about someone calling you something YOU KNOW YOU ARE NOT???? He's the one that looks retarded. All they had to do was come on TV one day and said, "you know what? I'm a PHD in Astrophysics with a minor in Internal Medicine. YOU sir are an idiot for calling me something I'm not. I'm 10x's as smart as you will ever be, and now EVERYONE knows that. Have a good life...the last couple of years you have left!!!". The end.

Not only would they have shown class and beat him at his own game, but they would have spun a completely positive perception of Black community to boot. Win, Win situation and it wasn't even all that hard. Argue with me on that too. :rolleyes:

Dude, if you want answers to those questions or if you want to give advice, talk to the people involved in the incident.

[AirMax95]

Bottom Line......

He should have thought backwards! I bet then he would not have said it.

He was exposed on something negative that he said, racist or not, it was offensive. Society did not like it, which affects the sponsors, who dropped his ass.........

GO TEAM GO!!!!!

I watched Larry King last night and a very good point was made. As a radio personality in a professional work place, he is expected to hold up his professionalism. I work in a satellite office, very tight knit gorup. If something anywhere near offensive was said, I guarantee that person would disciplined or be let go, quick! If I were the one on the chopping block, I would dispute, wait for an outcome and move on!

Imus knows he was wrong, he just did not think it would go as far as it did....

[Jaimecbr900]

I'm sorry, I don't get excited over something someone says on the internet. I' have better things to use my energy on. ;)

Yep, it seems like it. :rolleyes:


The people I consider leaders are not famous or wealthy. They don't get on TV and whoop and holler about things that really don't matter. Since there's no "movement" anymore, there isn't a specific leader of the Black community.

So they are "leaders" in your own mind....got it.

I guess maybe you should probably take back what you said about there being "other" Black leaders out there then. :rolleyes:

You put it out there and when I questioned you on it you folded. That's the bottom line. Deal with it.



There's still a lot of work to be done but I don't think it's fair to dump the responsibility on a few set people. It's up to the community to do what needs to be done in order to achieve their goal(s).

Nobody is dumping anything onto anyone. You step up to the mic and claim to be offended and claim to represent the "minority" and claim this and claim that whining and complaining all the way.....then it's on YOU because noone forced you to step up to the mic. If you can't handle it, then STFU. Simple. So if someone....Obama, Shirley girl, Al, Jesse, Tito, Michael....whomever steps up and speaks to a public audience on behalf of anyone else or as a representative of anyone else they are acting as a "leader". If they look like idiots doing it, that's on them. Don't come back now and say it's not fair to put it on their shoulders because it was THEY that stepped up to the mic. "They" have no problems soaking up the limelight when it's good, right? Then suck it up when people don't like what you say too.


Does that answer your damn question?

Yeah, you said you didn't want to name any "leaders", probably because you spoke too soon and didn't think anyone would call you on it. I got that answer, but I already knew that one. That took care of #1.

#2. You did answer, although it didn't seem like an honest answer.
#3. You did look up the definition of racist.
#4. You have not answered.
#5. You have not answered.
#6. You have not answered.
#7. You did answer with your famous, "....my people follow blindly even when we know someone is wrong just because we's stick together for no other reason than the color of our skin..." Yep, you answered that one alright. :rolleyes:
#8. Was not really a question, it was a rhetorical comment. No answer needed.

Does THAT answer YOUR question?



If I was angry, don't you think I would say something? Just because I said I would get over it doesn't mean I wouldn't let as many people as possible know how I felt about the situation.

Again, why would you be angry? In Imus' situation you seem to agree that he got what he deserved, right? How is that different from my analogy? You work somewhere, say something some queer thinks is derrogatory yet YOU didn't think it was that big of a deal, he comes in to complain, and your work fires you. Is that getting what YOU deserve? You'd "get over it" because you have NO choice. You "move on" because you have NO choice. Neither one make it right. Neither one helps to put food on the table for YOUR family. All the while, the queer that complained goes about his merry way spreading ferry dust everywhere.

You wanna tell me again how THAT is fair???



And yes, you do need to grow up. You remind me of a child that's done something wrong even though his parents told him not to. Now he's trying to twist their words around so he can get out of trouble. That's all you do.

And you remind me of a child that's spoken out of turn at the dinner table. When you get called out by your own words, now you back pedal. How typical. Just because I used your own bullets against you, don't be mad at me. Next time shoot better bullets. ;)




But I like Asian people. :D

I do too.




Ok, Mr. Know-it-all. Everyone abandon your opinions and listen to this guy because he is the All Knowing. We must bow down and show reverence. :bow:


See, if you would've said that in the beginning we would've gotten along just fine. :D




Of course I said it. Why? Because it's true and you know it.

Truth and right aren't always in sync.

You merely confirmed exactly what I and many others here have said a gazillion times. People follow others blindly simply because of the color of their skin. That is moronic and stupid, period. You wanna justify it and wanna come up with excuses for it, be my guest. That exact attitude of sweeping things under the rug as if you can't do anything about it so you'll let it slide is the reason why racial relations in this country have never moved forward at the pace they should have. We are in the 21st Century. We are no longer living in the age of June Clever. We live in a completely different world today, yet we still have the black vs. white vs. everyone issue just like we did in the 50's. Not much has changed. THAT is what is a shame. The world has moved into the 21st Century, yet we still have obvious retarded dealings when it comes to racial relations. Why is that? Largely in part to do with that moo cow mentality of let's just follow the cow in front of us because it looks just like me........ :screwy:

Keep thinking that's "ok" because that makes perfect sense to think that way. :rolleyes:




I was trying to give you an insight into how the world really operates, but I see that went over your head. Maybe I shouldn't have used pronouns because I really wasn't including my self when I said "we" or "our". I was trying to speak from a third-person point of view. Do you get it? Or do I need to make up a new scenario?

I've lived more and seen more in my life than you will ever fathom. I've both lived and seen REAL poverty, the kind of poverty you see on TV in third world countries. I've gone hungry. I've gone with "holy" shoes. I've had to boil water for a warm bath. So don't sit there and think you have a clue as to what I'm about. I just don't believe in bullshit excuses. Lace up your boots, wade thru the shit, and get to where you wanna go. Excuses are for people that want to justify their failures.

So if you think that because I don't agree with your "insight to reality" that means I'm not aware of what that reality is, you're sadly mistaken. I see the bullshit of reality everyday. Doesn't change the fact that its bullshit. The longer people sit there and coddle it and excuse it, the longer it will remain.




You don't know me or the people I associate with. My friends are made up of almost every general ethnic background. I do not need to prove to someone in my life as insignificant as you that I'm not racist.

Didn't I tell you in my previous post that this is exactly what racist people do often to justify they are NOT "racist"??? :screwy:

[Jaimecbr900]

Bottom Line......

He should have thought backwards! I bet then he would not have said it.

He was exposed on something negative that he said, racist or not, it was offensive. Society did not like it, which affects the sponsors, who dropped his ass.........

GO TEAM GO!!!!!

I watched Larry King last night and a very good point was made. As a radio personality in a professional work place, he is expected to hold up his professionalism. I work in a satellite office, very tight knit gorup. If something anywhere near offensive was said, I guarantee that person would disciplined or be let go, quick! If I were the one on the chopping block, I would dispute, wait for an outcome and move on!

Imus knows he was wrong, he just did not think it would go as far as it did....

Surprisingly, I agree with that. I stand corrected. I had you pegged as one of those moo cows blindly following the herd. Maybe I was wrong. ;)

[AirMax95]

Surprisingly, I agree with that. I stand corrected. I had you pegged as one of those moo cows blindly following the herd. Maybe I was wrong. ;)

Ha, suprisingly? I just feel that you can defend certain actions of an individual, without supporting them in their entirety. :goodjob:

Anyway, the man upstairs gets the final call :yes:

[leland_7]

Worth reading. Coming from an African-American.


http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html

[Kamikaze]

Yep, it seems like it. :rolleyes:

Quite the contrary. The only time I respond to your jibberish is when I have nothing better to do. :rolleyes:


So they are "leaders" in your own mind....got it.

I guess maybe you should probably take back what you said about there being "other" Black leaders out there then. :rolleyes:

You put it out there and when I questioned you on it you folded. That's the bottom line. Deal with it.

Don't put words in my mouth. I said a true leader needs to step up. And obviously if there's room for someone to "step up", then the position must be vacant.


Nobody is dumping anything onto anyone. You step up to the mic and claim to be offended and claim to represent the "minority" and claim this and claim that whining and complaining all the way.....then it's on YOU because noone forced you to step up to the mic. If you can't handle it, then STFU. Simple.

WTF are you talking about?


So if someone....Obama, Shirley girl, Al, Jesse, Tito, Michael....whomever steps up and speaks to a public audience on behalf of anyone else or as a representative of anyone else they are acting as a "leader". If they look like idiots doing it, that's on them. Don't come back now and say it's not fair to put it on their shoulders because it was THEY that stepped up to the mic. "They" have no problems soaking up the limelight when it's good, right? Then suck it up when people don't like what you say too.

Good for them.


Yeah, you said you didn't want to name any "leaders", probably because you spoke too soon and didn't think anyone would call you on it. I got that answer, but I already knew that one. That took care of #1.

Answer to this above.


Again, why would you be angry? In Imus' situation you seem to agree that he got what he deserved, right? How is that different from my analogy? You work somewhere, say something some queer thinks is derrogatory yet YOU didn't think it was that big of a deal, he comes in to complain, and your work fires you. Is that getting what YOU deserve? You'd "get over it" because you have NO choice. You "move on" because you have NO choice. Neither one make it right. Neither one helps to put food on the table for YOUR family. All the while, the queer that complained goes about his merry way spreading ferry dust everywhere.

You wanna tell me again how THAT is fair???

I'm sure Imus is angry, just as I would be if I lost my job. Like I keep repeating, had it been me, I probably wouldn't have fired him over this. But you seem to inadvertently keep skipping over this statement.



And you remind me of a child that's spoken out of turn at the dinner table. When you get called out by your own words, now you back pedal. How typical. Just because I used your own bullets against you, don't be mad at me. Next time shoot better bullets. ;)

No, next time I won't argue with someone who does nothing but twists words with their opinionated babble.


See, if you would've said that in the beginning we would've gotten along just fine. :D

Good. You know they say admittance is the first step. :goodjob:



Truth and right aren't always in sync.

Never did I say it was right. I said it was the truth, and it is.


You merely confirmed exactly what I and many others here have said a gazillion times. People follow others blindly simply because of the color of their skin. That is moronic and stupid, period. You wanna justify it and wanna come up with excuses for it, be my guest. That exact attitude of sweeping things under the rug as if you can't do anything about it so you'll let it slide is the reason why racial relations in this country have never moved forward at the pace they should have. We are in the 21st Century. We are no longer living in the age of June Clever. We live in a completely different world today, yet we still have the black vs. white vs. everyone issue just like we did in the 50's. Not much has changed. THAT is what is a shame. The world has moved into the 21st Century, yet we still have obvious retarded dealings when it comes to racial relations. Why is that? Largely in part to do with that moo cow mentality of let's just follow the cow in front of us because it looks just like me........ :screwy:

Sitting here complaining about the state of this country's race relations isn't gonna change anything. It's like a rock, in a way. The rock isn't going to move unless you go and pick it up. This country isn't gonna change until there's an active movement to squash all the beef between the races.


Excuses are for people that want to justify their failures.

I don't use excuses, pal. You get out of life what you put into it.


So if you think that because I don't agree with your "insight to reality" that means I'm not aware of what that reality is, you're sadly mistaken. I see the bullshit of reality everyday. Doesn't change the fact that its bullshit. The longer people sit there and coddle it and excuse it, the longer it will remain.

Just as I didn't know that about you, YOU DON'T KNOW ME. And if I offended you, I'm man enough to apologize. So stop trying to judge someone YOU DO NOT KNOW.


Didn't I tell you in my previous post that this is exactly what racist people do often to justify they are NOT "racist"??? :screwy:

Maybe in your interpretation of the word, but I go by the one that's in the dictionary. Not that I really care what you think anyway.

[Sol-Badguy]

Worth reading. Coming from an African-American.


http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html
A damn good read.

[tony]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2QF2ad28E


this clip sums up a lot

[Jaimecbr900]

:blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: .

It's all the same tired lines now.

I'm done playing with you. It's no longer entertaining.

Have a good day.

[Jaimecbr900]

Worth reading. Coming from an African-American.


http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html

Very nice. +1

[Jaimecbr900]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2QF2ad28E


this clip sums up a lot

VERY NICE. +1 when I can. :goodjob:

[Kamikaze]

It's all the same tired lines now.

I'm done playing with you. It's no longer entertaining.

Have a good day.

lol :lmao:

[koukis14]

Worth reading. Coming from an African-American.


http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html

+1

[_Christian_]

everyone is offended by everything nowadays. what he said wasn't that bad. ppl love to just blow everything out of proportion. everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon and get on the air so they can get a few minutes of fame. people love drama and love to be outraged. People like Sharpton just use it for publicity.

[tony]

As if womens sports get enough respect already calling them nappy headed hoes isn't all that bad? In the public? Wow, it has nothing to do with race but the statement alone was degrading to women period.. you dont know what they had to deal with to get to where they are or what they have to do to gain respect for their accomplishments.

[Julio]

the battle of the idiots...

Imus is an idiot to say that on radio
Sharpton is a crook
jackson is only opening his mouth when it will benefit him

3 smart man.... so much ignorance.. I seriously do Not know whos more ignorant out of the 3.

Imus is def the best out of the 3 though....

[Julio]

Society did not like it


This is 100% wrong. It sounds like you are talking for everyone..

Some people : Like Sharpton and Jackson jumped with it... and there groupies followed.

A FEW PEOPLE DID NOT LIKE IT. There are EVEN BLACK PEOPLE saying it was dumb and people over reacted to this..
The media only shows what they want..

[chrisdavis]

everyone is offended by everything nowadays. what he said wasn't that bad. ppl love to just blow everything out of proportion. everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon and get on the air so they can get a few minutes of fame. people love drama and love to be outraged. People like Sharpton just use it for publicity.


Lets take race out of the whole equation for a moment. Lets say you had a daughter on that team, you watch her practice day in and day out. You go to all her games and you are proud of her accomplishments. Her and her team worked like hell to make it to the finals and they are rewarded by being called whores. Would it still be no big deal if that was your daughter?

[_Christian_]

the battle of the idiots...

Imus is an idiot to say that on radio
Sharpton is a crook
jackson is only opening his mouth when it will benefit him

3 smart man.... so much ignorance.. I seriously do Not know whos more ignorant out of the 3.

Imus is def the best out of the 3 though....
:yes:well put.

[_Christian_]

Lets take race out of the whole equation for a moment. Lets say you had a daughter on that team, you watch her practice day in and day out. You go to all her games and you are proud of her accomplishments. Her and her team worked like hell to make it to the finals and they are rewarded by being called whores. Would it still be no big deal if that was your daughter?
i would be like "wow what an asshole". I wouldnt take it to heart. I think that there are a lot more important things for the media and society to focus on than a stupid comment. it has gone way to far. it has caused more harm by being replayed, discussed, and debated on tv, because now his comment has reached everyone instead of just his listeners.

[Julio]

Lets take race out of the whole equation for a moment. Lets say you had a daughter on that team, you watch her practice day in and day out. You go to all her games and you are proud of her accomplishments. Her and her team worked like hell to make it to the finals and they are rewarded by being called whores. Would it still be no big deal if that was your daughter?



Have you ever really listen to the IMUS show ever? Dude is always making jokes.....

OR Im sure you have watched the Chapelle show.... and He said WORST shit... He was payed what 40.. 50 million to make racist comments...

Is called Ignorance AT ITS BEST.

A white man said it and Here comes Batman and robin ( sharpton and Jackson)...

Anyways....

BTW... How come no one has mentioned how SHARPTON love the jews and how he lost the lawsuit for a few millions and UP TO THIS DATE HE HASNT PAID SHIT... that crook says HE has 0 assets to pay!! hahahah what a joke...

WE NEED SOME REAL BLACK LEADERS TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND TAKE FUCKING CHARGE.... FUCK SHARPTON AND JACKSON......

[JITB]

everyone is offended by everything nowadays. what he said wasn't that bad. ppl love to just blow everything out of proportion. everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon and get on the air so they can get a few minutes of fame. people love drama and love to be outraged. People like Sharpton just use it for publicity.


thats dumb to say, NOone has the right to tell anyone not to be offended by anything. One thing might not offend u but it might offend someone else. Everyone has something that can be said to them that will just push their buttons. We all do its human nature. noone has the right to tell anyone what and what not to be offended by.

[JITB]

WE NEED SOME REAL BLACK LEADERS TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND TAKE FUCKING CHARGE.... FUCK SHARPTON AND JACKSON......


i agree we need more leaders period.. our future is lookin fucked up.

[Julio]

thats dumb to say, NOone has the right to tell anyone not to be offended by anything. One thing might not offend u but it might offend someone else. Everyone has something that can be said to them that will just push their buttons. We all do its human nature. noone has the right to tell anyone what and what not to be offended by.


funny you say that.. Because seriously.. This is NOT ABOUT RIGHTS....

if it was about RIGHTS.. then where did FREEDOM OF SPEECH go ?


Rights are only important when is convinient for the idiots...

[_Christian_]

thats dumb to say, NOone has the right to tell anyone not to be offended by anything. One thing might not offend u but it might offend someone else. Everyone has something that can be said to them that will just push their buttons. We all do its human nature. noone has the right to tell anyone what and what not to be offended by.
true, but people seem to get offended way to damn easy. everyone always has to be overly-politically correct. what he said wasn't that damn bad. it was dumb and wrong, but come on. i have had much worse things said to me, friends, family, and about my race and taken much less or no offense. i think that the amount of people offended out weighs, by far, the amount damage that a comment like that should cause. it's all just a circus.

[JITB]

funny you say that.. Because seriously.. This is NOT ABOUT RIGHTS....

if it was about RIGHTS.. then where did FREEDOM OF SPEECH go ?


Rights are only important when is convinient for the idiots...


im not talkin abou rights, like freedom of speech, but im saying. If some shit goes down with a group of people, some might take offense to it, soem might. '

U got 3 folks white dude - black dude - asian dude

some random guy comes up and starts spitting insults about asians to all 3 of u alls face. it wont bother the black dude or the white dude. It would bother the asian tho.. the black and white dudes have no place to tell the asian dude.."u shouldnt be offended its not that serious". thats basic principle and respect for other people. If someone told me that something made them upset or shit...i may not understand but thats how they feel thats how they feel.

freedom of speech is alive and well, but u still have to deal with the results of your words. jesse jackson/al sharpton have dealt with their mouths the same way as imus is. sharpton/jackson may be ont he news and at conferences...but their credibility and intentions are always questioned and they will always be thought of as big mouth hipocrits because of their past, and form the shti they have say. Just like Imus hes not being put in jail hes not being fined.. hes being fired from a major station. Now if he was facing jailtime than the freedom of speech card can be thrown. But eveyrone has the freedom to say what they want.. but they need to be prepared to face the results of what they say.

[TeeJay]

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[JITB]

true, but people seem to get offended way to damn easy. everyone always has to be overly-politically correct. what he said wasn't that damn bad. it was dumb and wrong, but come on. i have had much worse things said to me, friends, family, and about my race and taken much less or no offense. i think that the amount of people offended out weighs, by far, the amount damage that a comment like that should cause. it's all just a circus.

i think folks are taking their hatred towards sharpton and jackson out and mixing the girls into it. There not the ones all over the news. They spoke once on tv,and they had a private meeting with Imus and i guess patched it up. If i was on that team that shit wouldnt probrably do shit to me either.. but im not them so i cant downplay it.

[chrisdavis]

Have you ever really listen to the IMUS show ever? Dude is always making jokes.....

OR Im sure you have watched the Chapelle show.... and He said WORST shit... He was payed what 40.. 50 million to make racist comments...

Is called Ignorance AT ITS BEST.

A white man said it and Here comes Batman and robin ( sharpton and Jackson)...

Anyways....

BTW... How come no one has mentioned how SHARPTON love the jews and how he lost the lawsuit for a few millions and UP TO THIS DATE HE HASNT PAID SHIT... that crook says HE has 0 assets to pay!! hahahah what a joke...

WE NEED SOME REAL BLACK LEADERS TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND TAKE FUCKING CHARGE.... FUCK SHARPTON AND JACKSON......


No I havent really listened to him, I gave it a few tries and never really got into him.


Yes Ive watched Chapelle Show. And Im aware he gets away with racism


Sharpton and Jackson are a joke. They wait with baited breath for any thing remotely resembling a a racist comment, so they can get themselves back out in front of the cameras.


I am not saying his comment was racist or wasnt racist. What I was saying is that if I had a daughter and somebody on the radio called her a whore I would be pissed. It would "not be no big deal". Would I sue the radio station, no. Would I be all over tv bitching about it, no, but I would applaud thier decision to fire the person who said it.

[Lucky DAWG]

i leave my thread for 2 days
and it gets up to 10 pages...

lol good job IA, i'm proud

[Jaimecbr900]

Thanks for backing me up Julio. :goodjob:

BTW, Although Shirley girl has been doing a much better job at cleaning up ATL than any of her predecessors (although the last one was a crook who's now in jail, so the bar wasn't exactly high... :D ) she too jumped on the bandwagon. Obama threw his .02 the other day too, a little late to the party are we Mr. Obama??? :rolleyes: I fully expect the Hilda Beast Clinton to be somewhere in there in the fray soon enough.

Either way, Sharpton and Jesse started it but there sure are plenty of "leaders" jumping onto the bandwagon too. They too are just as much idiots as the ones who started it.

I also heard in Al's "news conference" :rolleyes: (that he probably scheduled himself) that "his group" was going to meet with "Black entertainers" to discuss them not using derrogatory terms too. Yeah, right. Let's see if that turns into a feeding frenzy like this one. Don't hold your breath.

Besides, that is starting to sound dangerously close to censorship anyway.

I say, unless it's criminal, let the MARKET decide what is worth listening/watching. Afterall, we do have buttons that say "power on/off", right? ;)

[JITB]

I say, unless it's criminal, let the MARKET decide what is worth listening/watching. Afterall, we do have buttons that say "power on/off", right? ;)


the market did decide via sponsors, and didnt want anything to do with him or his show. u all act like his career is over, if imus was to get a show deal with another station, his rating would skyrocket because people want to hear what he has to say. I gurantee he will have a book or another show int he future.

[1SICKLEX]

I didn't even know IMUS was still alive until this....

[AirMax95]

This is 100% wrong. It sounds like you are talking for everyone..

Some people : Like Sharpton and Jackson jumped with it... and there groupies followed.

A FEW PEOPLE DID NOT LIKE IT. There are EVEN BLACK PEOPLE saying it was dumb and people over reacted to this..
The media only shows what they want..

Don't chop the post.....

But I will edit my line, ENOUGH of society did not like it for the sponsors to drop him.....its all Business

[Lucky DAWG]

Don't chop the post.....

But I will edit my line, ENOUGH of society did not like it for the sponsors to drop him.....its all Business

funny thing is their stock is going to drop from losing him lol
so doing it for the reasons of they would lose money seems kind of ironic

and yea i saw some black people on the news saying it was overreacted to. now they have all over the news is their a double standard and are showing rappers like snoop dog and ludacris all over the news.

so much has come from this one incident, a statement that wasn't even racist to begin with... but we have already been there and debated that

[Sack Attack]

if their so proud to be african american then send half of their black asses back to fuckin africa. Then we will have only americans....Why is it that EVERY fuckin problem the world has IS black related....
crime=black
shootings=black
rape=black, sometimes white, so kill them crackers too
drugs=black
aids=black

somehow or another fuckin global warming is niggers fault. Maybe theres soo many niggers in the world that the sun heats them up and they are producing heat and making the earth warm, that has to be what it is

[Kamikaze]

if their so proud to be african american then send half of their black asses back to fuckin africa. Then we will have only americans....Why is it that EVERY fuckin problem the world has IS black related....
crime=black
shootings=black
rape=black, sometimes white, so kill them crackers too
drugs=black
aids=black

somehow or another fuckin global warming is niggers fault. Maybe theres soo many niggers in the world that the sun heats them up and they are producing heat and making the earth warm, that has to be what it is

I would bet that you're one of the reasons scientists think we humans evolved from primates. Your inability to form complete sentences and the fact that you can't use that mass between your ears for anything but coming to irrational conclusions is proving their theory to be true.

[Sack Attack]

I would bet that you're one of the reasons scientists think we humans evolved from primates. Your inability to form complete sentences and the fact that you can't use that mass between your ears for anything but coming to irrational conclusions is proving their theory to be true.


um....no. Actually it is in my opinion that the earth is no more than 6k years old. There was no billions of years ago and I didnt evolve from shit, you however, could have

[TIGERJC]

if their so proud to be african american then send half of their black asses back to fuckin africa. Then we will have only americans....Why is it that EVERY fuckin problem the world has IS black related....
crime=black
shootings=black
rape=black, sometimes white, so kill them crackers too
drugs=black
aids=black

somehow or another fuckin global warming is niggers fault. Maybe theres soo many niggers in the world that the sun heats them up and they are producing heat and making the earth warm, that has to be what it is
can you also tell me what income bracket do most of the blacks and most ppl of all races that are in prison fall into? I believe crime has a lot to do with low income. As a black man I am just can't believe that or maybe I can that my ppl make up 70% of the prison population. But I don't see it as a race thing, I see it as a product of their environment.

Sounds like you might be a little anger at blk ppl, so what is the real problem?

[tony]

I would bet that you're one of the reasons scientists think we humans evolved from primates. Your inability to form complete sentences and the fact that you can't use that mass between your ears for anything but coming to irrational conclusions is proving their theory to be true.


lol Just put that dude on ignore, he doesn't deserve a response. Think about where he has to be in life to reply with that bs, he can barely form a real sentence and I'm suprised to see he was able to spell niggers correctly. Ignore him and he'll not only go away, but look stupid in the process.

[Kamikaze]

Sounds like you might be a little anger at blk ppl, so what is the real problem?

He's gay and sucks at all things he attempts in life. Therefore he has to take his anger out on somone. So he chooses Black people because his feeble little mind only has two channels: black and white.

[Kamikaze]

lol Just put that dude on ignore, he doesn't deserve a response. Think about where he has to be in life to reply with that bs, he can barely form a real sentence and I'm suprised to see he was able to spell niggers correctly. Ignore him and he'll not only go away, but look stupid in the process.

I should ignore him, but if I keep him talking, people can see how stupid he really is. :D

[Kamikaze]

um....no. Actually it is in my opinion that the earth is no more than 6k years old. There was no billions of years ago and I didnt evolve from shit, you however, could have

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7787/phonicscopyey0.jpg

[Sack Attack]

blacks make up 80% of our prison bitch, not 70%.

Thats whats wrong with out world, and our so called "leaders" is that you and them think the same way.

Lets just give the blacks all of our money, just let them fuckin cry racism when there is a lot more and bigger problems them blacks crying, this is america, theres a lot more places to go if ya dont like it.

It's not blacks that I dont like, I have never, but would love to fuck black chicks, I love blacks chicks, I dont have ANY problem with the skin color, what I do have a problem with is pure ignorance such as

niggers cannot drive
niggers cannot be respectful
niggers hang out all the fuckin time, GET A JOB!!!!!!!!!
they wear them long ass white tee shirts that look funny

just like white trash mother fuckers

they live in the trailor park
they molest little kids

every race has there fuck ups, but it is known that the hip-hop lifestyle is not music anymore, it is something to be. If all you listen to is hardcore hip-hop/rap then chances are that your trying to make an image for yourself

everything fits in together, blacks think "Hey, I'm black, so I HAVE to have a rwd GM car, I HAVE to have flowmasters, I HAVE to have either rims or black steel wheels, I HAVE to have a few baby mommas, I HAVE to have something do to with selling/using drugs, and I HAVE to have white tees.
Oh yeah, and I HAVE to listen to rap

I like cutlass' and big rims, but if I wanna drive that shit with a cowboy hat on smoking marlboro red and listening to fuckin conway twitty, I'm gonna do it and I aint gonna let no fucking image of what I'm supposed to be get in my way

[tony]

I should ignore him, but if I keep him talking, people can see how stupid he really is. :D

He's doing it on his own, watch.. if you stop responding he'll keep dropping the n bomb (looking stupid and desperate in the process) and eventually go away. You know he's stupid, we know he's stupid.. just let the dude entertain himself.

[Sack Attack]

It's not my fault that I can see where the world is heading and ya'll cannot. I am highly aware of the problem we are having here in the metro area. I guess ya'll cant see the shit, no wonder the world is like it is, one day everyone why ignores all this will wake up after it's too late, but I forgot, I'm the dumb one whos stupid for using the "n" word. I guess its stupid with jay-z and fuckin 2 pac use it though? yes it is because thats what they are is an n

[Jaimecbr900]

See.....and yall thought I was bad???? :lmfao:

This guy takes the cake. :rolleyes:

I'm surprised he's not banned already to be honest. :thinking:

[Sack Attack]

banned? thats the key, BAN THE WHITE GUY!!!. the only one whos is taking up for what is right, no one else got the balls? ya'll afraid of hurting people feelings or looking bad? the only reason the blacks are ahead of us now is because they stood up for what they thought was right regardless if it was right or wrong, they stood up and always fuckin win, because ya'lls white asses is scared.

[BABY J]

A) Sack Attack - you're an idiot.

2) As far as rap goes - you walk INTO the store and BUY "Jay-Z" and "Tupac". If it plays on public radio it's the radio version. If your daughter was on that team you'd think differently.

X) http://youtube.com/watch?v=WmxT21uFRwM

[Jaimecbr900]

banned? thats the key, BAN THE WHITE GUY!!!. the only one whos is taking up for what is right, no one else got the balls? ya'll afraid of hurting people feelings or looking bad? the only reason the blacks are ahead of us now is because they stood up for what they thought was right regardless if it was right or wrong, they stood up and always fuckin win, because ya'lls white asses is scared.

You're abrasive and unnecessarily confrontational, that's one reason.

You can not get your point across without using derrogatory terms that offer no valid purpose in your rant except just you being inflammatory, that's reason two.

My surprise to you not being banned yet has absolutely nothing to do with the color of your skin, just the way you rant is uncalled for IMO.

[Jaimecbr900]

2) As far as rap goes - you walk INTO the store and BUY "Jay-Z" and "Tupac". If it plays on public radio it's the radio version. If your daughter was on that team you'd think differently.



Well, then how do so many people know about those not so PG13 lyrics then? They certainly aren't listening to the clean version, so they would've had to of heard them somewhere, right?

Let me give you an example: Yesterday, we were at my son's birthday party thing for all his school friends. We had just sat all of the kids down to eat pizza and coke. A friend of ours, one of the parents of the children attending, phone went off. She had as her ring tone that "smack that ass" song that get's played on the radio 52 million times a day. Only the beginning of the song played for about 3 secs. ALL of the children started laughing and giggling. One of the parents said, "hey, what is so funny??? Yall don't know what that song is..." To which one of the children responded by singing all the lyrics up to the "ASS" part, which he just mouthed and not said out loud. Again, all the children broke out in laughter because they KNEW what the words were and that it was probably NOT cool for them to say them. How'd THEY hear it??? Most likely one of those 52 million times on the radio.

Point is: Although I understand what you're saying, many of the people that are saying to hold Black Entertainment's feet to the fire are doing so simply to prove a point and to show how unfair it is to only do it to one side of the equation. Do I care that certain songs have strong lyrics? Only when my kids are within hearing range. Do I care that entertainers make piles of money? Absolutely not. Do I care certain songs get played on the radio? Absolutely not, that's what the dial is for.

Bottomline is that if the Black community is going to take up arms against one insignificant guy for saying "nappy headed ho's", they should also take up arms against their own for saying far worse a whole lot more times than just once for 3 secs. If you don't, then you are being a hypocrite. "Ho's" means the same thing weather a White man says it or a Black man says it or a Brown man says it. Why should we treat any of them any different?


BTW, Carlos Mencia had a skit on his show last night that was entitled, "are you smarter than a WETBACK?" as a parody to Jeff F's show. I didn't watch it because I'm not a fan of Carlos, but should all Mexican's now make a big deal and have him fired??? He certainly labeled Mexican's with a direct name and on top of that the characters playing the skit were strictly stereotypical from what I saw. Now what? Should we have a week's worth of front page news about it? Should we call for his firing? See the double standard? :rolleyes:

[BABY J]

You answered your own question - ONE OF THE PARENTS had that tone in a setting full of kids.

If she is a parent w/ that tone, then what movies does she watch at home? What ELSE is she exposing her kids to? And it's not just her - it's in almost every household.

[AirMax95]

blacks make up 80% of our prison bitch, not 70%.

Thats whats wrong with out world, and our so called "leaders" is that you and them think the same way.

Lets just give the blacks all of our money, just let them fuckin cry racism when there is a lot more and bigger problems them blacks crying, this is america, theres a lot more places to go if ya dont like it.

It's not blacks that I dont like, I have never, but would love to fuck black chicks, I love blacks chicks, I dont have ANY problem with the skin color, what I do have a problem with is pure ignorance such as

niggers cannot drive
niggers cannot be respectful
niggers hang out all the fuckin time, GET A JOB!!!!!!!!!
they wear them long ass white tee shirts that look funny

just like white trash mother fuckers

they live in the trailor park
they molest little kids

every race has there fuck ups, but it is known that the hip-hop lifestyle is not music anymore, it is something to be. If all you listen to is hardcore hip-hop/rap then chances are that your trying to make an image for yourself

everything fits in together, blacks think "Hey, I'm black, so I HAVE to have a rwd GM car, I HAVE to have flowmasters, I HAVE to have either rims or black steel wheels, I HAVE to have a few baby mommas, I HAVE to have something do to with selling/using drugs, and I HAVE to have white tees.
Oh yeah, and I HAVE to listen to rap

I like cutlass' and big rims, but if I wanna drive that shit with a cowboy hat on smoking marlboro red and listening to fuckin conway twitty, I'm gonna do it and I aint gonna let no fucking image of what I'm supposed to be get in my way

Ha Ah Ha, this guy is dumb...... :lmfao:

The "everthing fits together" line is hilarious!!!! So pitiful.....

I drive an AWD Japanese car.....my mom drives a 4wd Japanese car/German RWD car......my uncle drives a FWD GM car...... :taun:

YOU = PART of America's problem.....

Blacks, White, Mexican, etc.... = crime, aids, violence, rape, drugs, mass murder, auto theft......There is a direct relation to poverty~~~~

Kick rocks! You disrupted a very productive discussion, please ban him!!!! I really do not care if you are the magical green alien from Mars; I do not like you....

[Jaimecbr900]

You answered your own question - ONE OF THE PARENTS had that tone in a setting full of kids.

If she is a parent w/ that tone, then what movies does she watch at home? What ELSE is she exposing her kids to? And it's not just her - it's in almost every household.

So you think that it just happened to be that all 18 children that were present happen to have heard the uncut version of that Akon song with the full consent of their parents at some point or another?

I can vouch for atleast 2 of the children present and I know that the ONLY place they would hear those uncut lyrics would be from the RADIO or TV. Either way, I can guarantee you that MY 2 kids have NEVER bought or listened to that song in it's uncut version with MY permission nor my wife's. So where'd they hear it? Again, on the radio and TV.

My point was simple. You said that radio plays "clean" versions of music, and I'm telling you that they don't all the time. This was a party for 8 yr old kids. Do you honestly think that their parents would knowingly allow their 8 yr old son/daughter to listent to that song's lyrics which are talking about "smacking that ass" while you are having SEX???? But somehow or another they KNOW what that song is about or atleast suspect it's not good. So how come we are not boycotting Akon or the radio stations for advocating "smacking the ass" of a woman while she's on all 4's and we're pounding her from behind?????

Again, I personally don't have issue with it, that's what the dial is for. I monitor what both my kids and even my Godchildren when they come over watch and even download onto their Ipods. If I don't like it, then the answer to them is "NO", end of discussion. Does that mean that their buddies at school won't let them listen to THEIR Ipod where the same song I veto'd could be??? I'm not stupid to think it's not possible. It still doesn't change the fact that AKON sung the song with certain lyrics. HE chose to do that. HIS record label recorded it and made piles of money off it. RADIO plays it over and over again, with them too making gobs of money off it. Bottomline is that AKON can say whatever HE wants and there is no retribution for it. One old WHITE guy says "nappy headed ho's" on a show that has a minute fraction of what AKON's audience is, yet he gets fired and labeled while Akon goes on to fame and fortune. Double standard exhibit #5000000000000. ;)

[AirMax95]

So you think that it just happened to be that all 18 children that were present happen to have heard the uncut version of that Aikon song with the full consent of their parents at some point or another?

I can vouch for atleast 2 of the children present and I know that the ONLY place they would hear those uncut lyrics would be from the RADIO or TV. Either way, I can guarantee you that MY 2 kids have NEVER bought or listened to that song in it's uncut version with MY permission nor my wife's. So where'd they hear it? Again, on the radio and TV.

My point was simple. You said that radio plays "clean" versions of music, and I'm telling you that they don't all the time. This was a party for 8 yr old kids. Do you honestly think that their parents would knowingly allow their 8 yr old son/daughter to listent to that song's lyrics which are talking about "smacking that ass" while you are having SEX???? But somehow or another they KNOW what that song is about or atleast suspect it's not good. So how come we are not boycotting Akon or the radio stations for advocating "smacking the ass" of a woman while she's on all 4's and we're pounding her from behind?????

Again, I personally don't have issue with it, that's what the dial is for. I monitor what both my kids and even my Godchildren when they come over watch and even download onto their Ipods. If I don't like it, then the answer to them is "NO", end of discussion. Does that mean that their buddies at school won't let them listen to THEIR Ipod where the same song I veto'd could be??? I'm not stupid to think it's not possible. It still doesn't change the fact that AKON sung the song with certain lyrics. HE chose to do that. HIS record label recorded it and made piles of money off it. RADIO plays it over and over again, with them too making gobs of money off it. Bottomline is that AKON can say whatever HE wants and there is no retribution for it. One old WHITE guy says "nappy headed ho's" on a show that has a minute fraction of what AKON's audience is, yet he gets fired and labeled while Akon goes on to fame and fortune. Double standard exhibit 5000000000000. ;)

I kinda agree. People do have the ability to turn the dial. When I have kids, I will definately monitor what they hear, do, see, and damn near think, lol.

But, I just feel that IMUS still "called out" a group. The RUTGERS B-BALL TEAM.
If Akon were to say that he was "smacking Oprah or Hillary's ass on the floor" he would catch pure hell......yuck, that is a horrible thought by the way :no:

[Jaimecbr900]

I kinda agree. People do have the ability to turn the dial. When I have kids, I will definately monitor what they hear, do, see, and damn near think, lol.

But, I just feel that IMUS still "called out" a group. The RUTGERS B-BALL TEAM.

And after the Rutgers team met one-on-one with him they said they wanted it to be over and done with. Why isn't it if they are the ones that should've (and rightly so IMO) been offended? It's because the spin doctors keep twisting it around to more than it really was to begin with.



If Akon were to say that he was "smacking Oprah or Hillary's ass on the floor" he would catch pure hell......yuck, that is a horrible thought by the way :no:

OMG, out of all the beautiful women in the world that you could've picked for your example...... :D

[BABY J]

Wrong. The bottom line is the CDs are sensored - there are ratings right there on the packaging. And the FCC approves what can be played or not. People act like this is Imus' 1st dance and it's not - he has been asking for it for years. He earned exactly what he got. I dont think it infringed on his first amendment rights, if you worked at a grocery store and called one of the patrons a nappy headed ho you would get fired too. Right or not- the old white man should know he's messing with his meal ticket by saying that. Just because a rapper can say it doesn't mean you can. I've never been a fan, so I can't say that I know the typical style of his program. It sounded to me like he used the same context that someone of my generation would use, referring to a type of woman of any racial descent. But he's got to know that he's not Dave Chappelle and that he's not the person to boldly go where no old white guy has gone before. Especially making fun of women in a predominantly African-American sport. I don't like the idea of firing someone based on what I heard him specifically say. I do support the idea, however, of firing Imus now that I know he is ignorant enough to think HE could get away with saying it (and on the air!). You have to possess a certain element of stupid for that. And what other points of view are perverted by that same element of stupid?

He'll find a job somewhere. Or maybe he can write a book about all of this and make even more money...

1) You have the right to not buy things from advertisers on his show.
2) You have the right to change the channel.
3) His employer has the right to fire him if they want.
4) You have the right to be mad if he said this about your daughter while sitting right in front of you at the B-ball game.
5) You can even punch him in the lip but then you turn into the bad guy and have to take responsibility for what you do. And that's what he is doing - taking responsibility for what he said.

He's a button pusher and has been for 20 years. An equal opportunity offender and he's made these kinds of remarks about every race, color and religious background.

The Constitution guarantees freedom of speech. Where does it guarantee the right to not be offended?

As far as Don, I think they fired him because of pressure from sponsors, media and so on. They were worried about their image if they approved imus to continue broadcasting. My personal opinion is that what he said was out of line and should realize that his light hearted comment was taken very seriously by others.. but this national epidemic is rediculous. Imus continues to sincerely apologize and the basketball team accepts the apology and moved on but will not forget... just like the rest of the world should. We have way too many more serious issues to deal with right now. I believe racism is a very serious issue, but I don't believe Don was being racist, he just said a racist thing and didn't think things through before he said it. I'm sure he said this comment in reference to the hip hop community (wheather he hears the slang from rap or on the streets), however that's not an excuse. It is also not "rap's" fault. Don screwed up, we still live in a time where many people are still very hurt from the past (slavery), and as long as that hurt is spread down generation to generation.. we must respect each other's seperate racial cultures.

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[BABY J]

Oprah - I'd hit it.

[AirMax95]

And after the Rutgers team met one-on-one with him they said they wanted it to be over and done with. Why isn't it if they are the ones that should've (and rightly so IMO) been offended? It's because the spin doctors keep twisting it around to more than it really was to begin with.




OMG, out of all the beautiful women in the world that you could've picked for your example...... :D


You are correct, definately. The issues should have been killed after they met with him. I watched a women's forum last night, mixed races, they are pissed! It has now gone from racist to offensive, offensive to disrespectful. The women are using this make a point across U.S., and they are going to run with it! Watch what you say to your wives and girlfriends..... :(

I used them only because I think they will blast someone for saying things like that.....only for effect, not desire lol.

[Jaimecbr900]

The bottom line is the CDs are sensored - there are ratings right there on the packaging.

Wrong. That's not censorship. That is warning labels, very very different. NOONE is keeping the rappers from rapping about ANYTHING. Last time there was any kind of real censorship was back in the 2live Crew deal. There is a HUGE difference between putting a sticker warning parents (they are the only ones that DON'T know what bad words are being used if there is anyone that doesn't know) that in that disc there are 52 million curse words used. That sticker DOES NOT keep the rapper from saying those words to begin with NOR is it keeping him from recording those words onto a CD NOR does it keep him from selling that CD and making gobs of money off it. So NO censorship at all there. Sorry.



And the FCC approves what can be played or not.

What's played on the air, yes. What's sold at the stores, NO. What sells at the stores? Dirty version.



People act like this is Imus' 1st dance and it's not - he has been asking for it for years.

Exactly. He's been using the same type of dry humor against every race under the sun, but now suddenly it makes a difference??? How so?


He earned exactly what he got.

No he didn't. If there was any other more important news last week, he'd still have his job today. If a Black man would've said it, he'd have a job today regardless. So how exactly did he get what he deserved???? He got what he got because the 1st Ammendment rights really don't and shouldn't apply AT WORK. AT WORK, the only rights that matter are the ones your boss affords you since it's HIS BUSINESS. But if Imus went to a street corner and shouted at the top of his lungs what everybody is having their panties in a bunch about there would be NOTHING ANYONE could do. NOTHING!!! Why? First Ammendment. AT WORK, the owner should be the ONLY one to have any say so NOT ANYONE ELSE. That's NOT what happened here at all.


I dont think it infringed on his first amendment rights, if you worked at a grocery store and called one of the patrons a nappy headed ho you would get fired too. Right or not- the old white man should know he's messing with his meal ticket by saying that.

See above.

When you work FOR someone, you are working under THEIR rules. Imus' employer DIDN'T have a problem with what he said UNTIL Sharpton and Jackson made the media frenzy they did. Remember, he said it for a good week or two BEFORE the media and the race pimps got a hold of it.....why didn't he get fired before that??? His bosses were listening just fine to it WHEN he said it to begin with. Funny how that works, right?

There is a big difference between a quick backlash to sticking your foot in your mouth and caving in to political correctness and scare tactics. BIG DIFFERENCE.



Just because a rapper can say it doesn't mean you can.

There it is!!! That's the real reason all this crap is going on. The DOUBLE STANDARD that everyone thinks is all fine and dandy until it involves them.

Tell me exactly WHY it's "can" and anyone else "can't". What exactly entitles the rappers to say what they want with impunity yet when someone else says a tiny portion of what they scream out at their concerts in front of millions of people including under age children they suddenly get labeled "racist(s)"? How does that work like that?



I've never been a fan, so I can't say that I know the typical style of his program. It sounded to me like he used the same context that someone of my generation would use, referring to a type of woman of any racial descent.

Then how can you say that he has been "asking for it for years"??? ;)

Same way everyone else who backs his firing did.....Al and Jesse told them so.... :rolleyes:



But he's got to know that he's not Dave Chappelle and that he's not the person to boldly go where no old white guy has gone before. Especially making fun of women in a predominantly African-American sport.

There you go again, using that double standard. Why is it that Chappelle can and Imus can't? THEY ARE WORDS, folks. WORDS!!!

Are we going to keep promoting a society where it's ruled by a bunch of NIMBYs (Not In MY Back Yard) wimps???? Everything is status quo until someone wants to do it in YOUR backyard, THEN it's not cool anymore. BS. Right is right, wrong is wrong REGARDLESS.



I don't like the idea of firing someone based on what I heard him specifically say.

I thought you said he got what he "deserved"?



He's a button pusher and has been for 20 years. An equal opportunity offender and he's made these kinds of remarks about every race, color and religious background.

Hmmm, then how come he gets fired NOW? Watching the news explains why. Al, Jesse, and all the bandwagon riders will tell you why since they are the only ones getting the real airtime.


The Constitution guarantees freedom of speech. Where does it guarantee the right to not be offended?

Exactly, so why is this such a big deal? Hurt feelings aren't PROTECTED under ANY part of the U.S. Constitution.

[/quote]As far as Don, I think they fired him because of pressure from sponsors, media and so on. They were worried about their image if they approved imus to continue broadcasting. My personal opinion is that what he said was out of line and should realize that his light hearted comment was taken very seriously by others.. but this national epidemic is rediculous. Imus continues to sincerely apologize and the basketball team accepts the apology and moved on but will not forget... just like the rest of the world should. We have way too many more serious issues to deal with right now. I believe racism is a very serious issue, but I don't believe Don was being racist, he just said a racist thing and didn't think things through before he said it. [/quote]

Agree with you there. :goodjob:


we still live in a time where many people are still very hurt from the past (slavery), and as long as that hurt is spread down generation to generation.. we must respect each other's seperate racial cultures.

Why? This is a completely different 50 debate, but what in the world are people still pondering over slavery for? It's an excuse.