Schaub traded to Texans

[tony]

From what I hear we will get the #8 pick from Houston, hopefully this means we will have the #8 and #10 pick in the draft and what else does this say?

THE FALCONS ARE STICKING WITH MICHAEL VICK!

update: Supposedly we get the #8 pick, a 2nd round pick and another 2nd round pick next year.

[ShooterMcGavin]

retarded move, especially since no one knows how vick will function in the new offense under petrino...

[thinkfast®]

WOW

[2.0civic]

well i guess the texans offense will get better

[2.0civic]

and its hard to believe vicks been in the NFL this long and still has speed

[Kelly]

Thinkfast, my face would've been perfect for this thread.


Anyways, I heard Schaub already signed another contract with us for a year. You sure on this one??? :thinking:

[PhAtBoYMr2]

Weather or not it's true i think it would be a pretty good move....

shockley will move up to second string and it will open up the salary cap a little more and we will get decent draft picks.

Falcons are trying to build a dynasty

[ShooterMcGavin]

well i guess the texans offense will get better
not w/o a better line, carr will just be able to take a few snaps off to let schaub get sacked...

[ShooterMcGavin]

Falcons are trying to build a dynasty
lol, if that were the case then they should've started by signing a dynasty qb (read: peyton manning, carson palmer, tom brady, etc)

[thinkfast®]

Thinkfast, my face would've been perfect for this thread.



ASK AND, WELL.. YOU KNOW THE DRILL :goodjob:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b400/Chante0103/Mybigeyes.jpg

[gtikid]

Weather or not it's true i think it would be a pretty good move....

shockley will move up to second string and it will open up the salary cap a little more and we will get decent draft picks.

Falcons are trying to build a dynasty

:lmfao: :slap:

[gtikid]

If it's true, I hope Schaub gets his chance over there and blows up. He deserves it....

[thinkfast®]

DEAL HASNT EVEN BEEN SIGNED, THIS IS JUST TALKS.. FROM NFL.COM THO IT WILL PROBLY GO THROUGH SOON..

[gtikid]

According to ESPN, it has...

[Kelly]

They'd be so retarted. :no:

[quickdodge®]

Falcons are trying to build a dynasty

Not with Shockley, they won't. I really liked Schaub at QB. They should have traded him for picks instead of Schaub, but I guess they wouldn't have gotten as good of picks. Later, QD.

[OneSlow5pt0]

worst move the falcons have done since trading Brett Farve


edit:2nd worest move,the other was passing on LT and drafting Vick

[tony]

For all of you who say this is a stupid move and speak so highly of Schaub... THANK YOU! Its because of you guys that the Falcons can take a 3rd round draft pick who has never won a game and trade up to a first round pick with two second round picks.. its just great.

Supposedly Falcons are just moving up to #8 and giving up the #10 pick to the Texans. By the way Schaub will still be a backup to Carr.. maybe we can swing a deal with the Texans next year and get a couple of 2nd rounders for a kicker... suckers.

Trust me this is not speculation, this deal has been done.

[o_bomb]

wow what a crazy move!!

[2.0civic]

worst move the falcons have done since trading Brett Farve


edit:2nd worest move,the other was passing on LT and drafting Vick

and the worst grammar belongs to you:lmfao: :lmfao:

[OneSlow5pt0]

and right,im proudest to amit it

[PhAtBoYMr2]

Not with Shockley, they won't. I really liked Schaub at QB. They should have traded him for picks instead of Schaub, but I guess they wouldn't have gotten as good of picks. Later, QD.

Shockleys college career > shaubs college career

I have alot of faith in D.J so anything you say negative about him i'm going to have to disagree, he played his ass off at uga

[ShooterMcGavin]

Not with Shockley, they won't. I really liked Schaub at QB. They should have traded him for picks instead of Schaub, but I guess they wouldn't have gotten as good of picks. Later, QD.
:stupid: but what can you expect from former uga players :tongue1:

[bigpimpatl]

well there goes our insurance policy...i'm guessing they are trying to get calvin johnson? I don't see too many problems with the falcons, so why did they opt to get more draft picks? bad move...we'll end up signing someone bananas like JEFF GEORGE when we find out vick is taking the team down the drain...

[quickdodge®]

Shockleys college career > shaubs college career

We're in the pros now. College career isn't even in the topic of this discussion.


I have alot of faith in D.J so anything you say negative about him i'm going to have to disagree, he played his ass off at uga

We're in the pros now. Disagree with that. Lolol. As probably 100% of the NFL players will agree with me, college and pro ball are completely different. Nothing wrong with having faith in a player, but just because he "played his ass of at UGA," that doesn't mean he still be the same good QB in the NFL. Later, QD.

[tony]

well there goes our insurance policy...i'm guessing they are trying to get calvin johnson? I don't see too many problems with the falcons, so why did they opt to get more draft picks? bad move...we'll end up signing someone bananas like JEFF GEORGE when we find out vick is taking the team down the drain...


The draft picks will be defensive players..

[ShooterMcGavin]

CJ will be long gone by the 8th pick :yes:

[OneSlow5pt0]

CJ going to the Bucs,hopefully thats where id like him to go in the Top 5

[ShooterMcGavin]

:stupid:

[Firefightin_tC]

This is why I'm a Raven's fan.

[Nomad!]

I guess the 1yr deal he signed with the Falcons was negotiable? This was a pretty interesting move being that Schaub shinned coming off of the bench. Any word on if the Falcons are looking to pick up a key player or two?

[tony]

6 years $38 million for Schaub.. I guess he is going to be starting. Texans do play the Falcons this year, that will be an interesting game.

[Kelly]

Why haven www.atlantafalcons.com still not "officially" reported it then?

[tony]

The trade was pending on Schaub working a deal with the Texans, obviously they have worked a deal now and it should become official.

[Kelly]

Well that sucks...

[PhAtBoYMr2]

haha texans will still be trash Bad move on shaubs part

Falcons will make the playoffs this year...anyone wanna put money on it?

[tony]

Well heres the thing, if Schaub stuck around another year we would lose him anyway and get nothing. They are not going to get rid of Vick with such a big contract. Schaub said himself that he wants to be the #1 quarterback and if that did not happen here he would go elsewhere.

And I correct myself, his contract is 6 years $48 million not $38 million.

[Kelly]

haha texans will still be trash Bad move on shaubs part
Falcons will make the playoffs this year...anyone wanna put money on it?

Hell Yeah We Will!!! We may not see eye to eye on anything else but I'm totally with ya on this one... :goodjob:

[Kelly]

Well heres the thing, if Schaub stuck around another year we would lose him anyway and get nothing. They are not going to get rid of Vick with such a big contract. Schaub said himself that he wants to be the #1 quarterback and if that did not happen here he would go elsewhere.
And I correct myself, his contract is 6 years $48 million not $38 million.

Yeah, you're probably right. But it still sucks to see him go.

I think Petrino has a lot of faith in Vick. As do I. We'll see...

[JC]

Well heres the thing, if Schaub stuck around another year we would lose him anyway and get nothing. They are not going to get rid of Vick with such a big contract. Schaub said himself that he wants to be the #1 quarterback and if that did not happen here he would go elsewhere.

And I correct myself, his contract is 6 years $48 million not $38 million.

Agreed!! Besides, after seeing DJ Shockley in the preseason games, he can hold his own. I think the team will be just fine with Schaub. However, it saddens me to see this move because that means the team is standing behind Vick, and I feel vick just brings the team down on many level, attitude being a major one.

[Spectic Tank]

Well heres the thing, if Schaub stuck around another year we would lose him anyway and get nothing. They are not going to get rid of Vick with such a big contract. Schaub said himself that he wants to be the #1 quarterback and if that did not happen here he would go elsewhere.

And I correct myself, his contract is 6 years $48 million not $38 million.



I think I have agreed with everything you have said in this thread. I think this was a smart move by the falcons to get more draft picks to help fill some holes. That along with the acquisition of Joe horn and the FB from the Ravens(can't remember his name) I think the falcons have a good chance this year(Although I thought that last year as well). I don't understand why people are so reluctant to see Shaub go. He's only started one game, I really don't think that he can do anything Shockley can't do as the back-up.

[Spectic Tank]

Agreed!! Besides, after seeing DJ Shockley in the preseason games, he can hold his own. I think the team will be just fine with Schaub. However, it saddens me to see this move because that means the team is standing behind Vick, and I feel vick just brings the team down on many level, attitude being a major one.



I think the next few years are going to show what Vick is really made of as QB. He was so sheltered in Mora Jr.'s offense it's hard to say that he was at fault for their shortcomings. Not to mention I'm sure it was frustrating being a QB and NOT being aloud to Audible!!! I think Patrino's offense will suit Vick much better than Mora's West Coast BS.

[2.0civic]

Although i hate to see shaub go, i do think the trade was better for EVERYONE. Texans get a better QB, schaub gets to start, Makes more moeny, and the falcons get more well rounded.

Hell if i was schaub right now id be like "well, if im losing atleast im amking more $$$"

[bigdare23]

retarded move, especially since no one knows how vick will function in the new offense under petrino...

Why? Replace the vick with schaub and it's still a true statement

retarded move, especially since no one knows how schaub will function in the new offense under petrino...

[bigdare23]

I hate how people still believe that the falcons "losing" season was all vick fault when there were so many holes in the falcons offense and defense. ESPN Fantasy Football had Vick rank in the top 5 QB. That tells you he had a pretty "decent" season. Anyways, fuck the past! Vick is the starting QB and the falcons are going to do well this year, and I'll match what PhatBoyMr2 put up.

[Eurostunna07]

noooo, if this is true, atlanta falcons will never make playoffs

[tony]

Why? Replace the vick with schaub and it's still a true statement

retarded move, especially since no one knows how schaub will function in the new offense under petrino...


The other thing we will see out of Schaub this year is what he now has in common with Vick, an offensive line that cannot block.

The writing is on the wall, Petrino wants a team that intimidates. I think the Falcons of last year was about finesse which was nice the first 3 games, but its not consistent. The spread option was pretty when executed properly but teams caught on quick.

Smashmouth football is consistent and says whether we win or lose it certainly wont be a walk in the park for the other team, teams do not look forward to playing aggressive and intimidating teams.

Personally I like the way things have gone, we had a good team last year but the coaching staff was not a good match. Every addition we have made so far have been no nonsense players. When wide receivers are dropping balls who is going to speak up and get in their face? Joe Horn. We have a fullback that is like a hammer and I believe the reason why Vick scrambled so much is because he could not audible. Imagine you're looking at a defense that you KNOW is going to shut down the play you're about to run but you cannot do anything about it? Hell I'd run first too.

Peyton Manning audibles on almost every play, I can literally mimic his actions under center because he does it every time. He sees blitz, he'll call an audible.. tell the offensive line.. inform the running back then sets up in a shotgun formation, he does his usual leg stomp and snap.. it seems to work.

[bigdare23]

The other thing we will see out of Schaub this year is what he now has in common with Vick, an offensive line that cannot block.

The writing is on the wall, Petrino wants a team that intimidates. I think the Falcons of last year was about finesse which was nice the first 3 games, but its not consistent. The spread option was pretty when executed properly but teams caught on quick.

Smashmouth football is consistent and says whether we win or lose it certainly wont be a walk in the park for the other team, teams do not look forward to playing aggressive and intimidating teams.

Personally I like the way things have gone, we had a good team last year but the coaching staff was not a good match. Every addition we have made so far have been no nonsense players. When wide receivers are dropping balls who is going to speak up and get in their face? Joe Horn. We have a fullback that is like a hammer and I believe the reason why Vick scrambled so much is because he could not audible. Imagine you're looking at a defense that you KNOW is going to shut down the play you're about to run but you cannot do anything about it? Hell I'd run first too.

Peyton Manning audibles on almost every play, I can literally mimic his actions under center because he does it every time. He sees blitz, he'll call an audible.. tell the offensive line.. inform the running back then sets up in a shotgun formation, he does his usual leg stomp and snap.. it seems to work.


Damn right! But it's "ONLY VICKS FAULT". People need to get out of here with blaming a TEAM'S downfall on one person. And I agree last year team was a great team and with the new additions to the team, the falcons will be a contender!

+1 for ya :goodjob:

[bigdare23]

noooo, if this is true, atlanta falcons will never make playoffs



wanna put some money on it?

:gay:

[OneSlow5pt0]

bucss and saints will make the playoffs,not falcons

[JC]

Damn right! But it's "ONLY VICKS FAULT". People need to get out of here with blaming a TEAM'S downfall on one person. And I agree last year team was a great team and with the new additions to the team, the falcons will be a contender!

+1 for ya :goodjob:

I will agree with you that a teams short comings can not be blammed on one individual person. Therefore, I agree that the entire teams poor perforance should not be soley blammed on Vick. However, I have to say this also. I am so tired of people saying the only reason Vick is doing so badly is because of Jim Mora. One person, Jim Mora, can not be blammed for the poor performance of an NFL QB. An all-round player should be able to adjust to whatever offense. Jim Mora did not force Vick to throw a middle finger in the air either. That just shows Vicks character, or lack there of. I dont blame the falcons loosing season on one person, but I think it is lame and stupid to blame Vick's poor performance on one person as well. It is just a cop-out to blame Vick's poor performance on Mora. HE is an NFL quarterback for gods sake, if it was high school it may be different. I honestly dont care weather they keep Vick or get rid of him, but his additude needs to be readjusted fast, because if the city of Atlanta does not stand behind him, neither will the franchise.

[bigdare23]

bucss and saints will make the playoffs,not falcons

doubt it :goodjob:

[OneSlow5pt0]

I will agree with you that a teams short comings can not be blammed on one individual person. Therefore, I agree that the entire teams poor perforance should not be soley blammed on Vick. However, I have to say this also. I am so tired of people saying the only reason Vick is doing so badly is because of Jim Mora. One person, Jim Mora, can not be blammed for the poor performance of an NFL QB. An all-round player should be able to adjust to whatever offense. Jim Mora did not force Vick to throw a middle finger in the air either. That just shows Vicks character, or lack there of. I dont blame the falcons loosing season on one person, but I think it is lame and stupid to blame Vick's poor performance on one person as well. It is just a cop-out to blame Vick's poor performance on Mora. HE is an NFL quarterback for gods sake, if it was high school it may be different. I honestly dont care weather they keep Vick or get rid of him, but his additude needs to be readjusted fast, because if the city of Atlanta does not stand behind him, neither will the franchise.


where are all the vick haters yall talk bout?cause they throw money at him with all the jersy sales,and sold out games every week

[ShooterMcGavin]

Falcons will make the playoffs this year...anyone wanna put money on it?
no but i'll put $$$ on the fact that they won't win the superbowl this yr :goodjob:

[bigdare23]

I will agree with you that a teams short comings can not be blammed on one individual person. Therefore, I agree that the entire teams poor perforance should not be soley blammed on Vick. However, I have to say this also. I am so tired of people saying the only reason Vick is doing so badly is because of Jim Mora. One person, Jim Mora, can not be blammed for the poor performance of an NFL QB. An all-round player should be able to adjust to whatever offense. Jim Mora did not force Vick to throw a middle finger in the air either. That just shows Vicks character, or lack there of. I dont blame the falcons loosing season on one person, but I think it is lame and stupid to blame Vick's poor performance on one person as well. It is just a cop-out to blame Vick's poor performance on Mora. HE is an NFL quarterback for gods sake, if it was high school it may be different. I honestly dont care weather they keep Vick or get rid of him, but his additude needs to be readjusted fast, because if the city of Atlanta does not stand behind him, neither will the franchise.


poor performance??? look a few post up and I typed he was in the top 5 (of QBs) in scoring for ESPN FF most of the season (to get points there he must of been doing something right). He set a rushing record this year (and dont give me this QB shouldnt run BS). He had a game where he threw 4tds in a losing effort. Performance my ass. I can tell you dont watch football, because if you did then you would of saw about 15-20 drop TD passes from Falcons WRs this past season. Then when he was trying his hardest to win, and his offense wasnt helping, but the crowd is booing him. Luckily it was Vick and not me cuz I would of showed atlanta my ass (how bout my dick and told them to suck it) rather then fick them off! As for Mora, he was a fucking joke and I dont even wanna go there.

[bigdare23]

no but i'll put $$$ on the fact that they won't win the superbowl this yr :goodjob:

:gay:

[bigdare23]

oh yeah pre-Mora Vick >>>>>>>>>>>>> post-Mora Vick

[Tracer]

What a dumb move by the Falcons!!!!

[BB6dohcvtec]

x2 stupid move by the falcon, but what can you say?? its the falcons they are notorious for fucked up trades. They will make the playoffs as a wildcard but they will lose the first playoff game(and the only reason they will make it is because that are in the nfc). and even with them moving up a couple of spots in the first round they are still planning on taking the same prospect they wanted at the #10 spot Lundry(sp?) the safety from LSU. If i were the falcons i would try to draft the WR from south carolina Rice, to me is the second best wide out behind the freak calvin johnson. But I like Petrino hopefully he can turn it around but i doubt because yes i am VICK HATER and i dislike the falcons front office because they are fuckin inconsistent on what they want to do with the team.

[{X}Echo419]

well i guess the texans offense will get better

just like the....dare I say Packers! History repeating FTW! :2cents:

[tony]

For those who say this was a stupid move did you not see what I said?

Schaub would have been gone at the end of the season anyways! And we would not have received anything!

Let me think.. two draft picks and two spots in the first round or nothing at all hmm...

[TeeJay]

I guess the 1yr deal he signed with the Falcons was negotiable? This was a pretty interesting move being that Schaub shinned coming off of the bench. Any word on if the Falcons are looking to pick up a key player or two?
what? folks, in case you havent noticed, schaub is 0-2 as a starter with a 58% career completion percentage. GODDAMN the texans may be the dumbest team in the nfl, they keep dropping the ball, first signing carr and dom capers, then passing on bush for mario williams, now they sign an unproven qb who has only won in the preseason to a multi year contract. what the fuck, it could always be worse falcon fans, you could be a texans "fan"

[Tracer]

For those who say this was a stupid move did you not see what I said?

Schaub would have been gone at the end of the season anyways! And we would not have received anything!

Let me think.. two draft picks and two spots in the first round or nothing at all hmm...


Guess What? Vick will be gone at the end of this season.....

[ShooterMcGavin]

:gay:
:gay:? why? cuz you know it's true?

[ShooterMcGavin]

ESPN Fantasy Football had Vick rank in the top 5 QB. That tells you he had a pretty "decent" season.
:lmfao: oh my god, are you fucking serious? maybe you are a complete fucktard. FANTASY football man, players are ranked based on personal stats ONLY, not how well they do to make their team better and win more games.

[bigdare23]

:gay:? why? cuz you know it's true?

It was wasnt toward you, toward your bet your offered. What are the odds for any team to when the superbowl? Especially before the season starts.

[bigdare23]

:lmfao: oh my god, are you fucking serious? maybe you are a complete fucktard. FANTASY football man, players are ranked based on personal stats ONLY, not how well they do to make their team better and win more games.

No shit! You just made my fucking point dumb ass! If his "personal" stats were decent then it was something else wrong with the falcons! :gay:

[ShooterMcGavin]

It was wasnt toward you, toward your bet your offered. What are the odds for any team to when the superbowl? Especially before the season starts.
hence me offering to wager that they won't do it :goodjob:

[ShooterMcGavin]

No shit! You just made my fucking point dumb ass! If his "personal" stats were decent then it was something else wrong with the falcons! :gay:
wow, you really are dense huh? so basically a player is better and more valuable to a team when they're a stat whore? his stats were bolstered in FANTASY football by his running, mostly due to his inability to pass. how is there something WRONG with the falcons that he can't pass and run an offense the way a qb is supposed to?

[bigdare23]

hence me offering to wager that they won't do it :goodjob:

really, I'm going to bet on who's going to win the superbowl way before the season starts :rolleyes: ODDS guy ODDS

[bigdare23]

:blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah:


wow, you really are dense huh? so basically a player is better and more valuable to a team when they're a stat whore? his stats were bolstered in FANTASY football by his running,


How the hell do you call that stat whoring? You do what you need to do when noone else on your team is performing. When he threw perfect passes they were dropped. You dont remember see'n those dropped passes do you? Only when it was Vick's fault. Yeah right :gay:



mostly due to his inability to pass.

Are you sure it was because of his inablity to pass or his receivers inablity to catch the fucking ball.



how is there something WRONG with the falcons that he can't pass and run an offense the way a qb is supposed to?

What the hell? How is a QB supposed to run an offense? Oh, hike then throw the ball, right. That's not his style! When you have a QB that runs less than 4.4 with better agility then most RBs, you want him to stay in the pocket when there's a weak ass offensive line blocking for him. Yeah................ yeah right. You might as well use him to the best of his ability and that's being a mobile QB.

[ShooterMcGavin]

really, I'm going to bet on who's going to win the superbowl way before the season starts :rolleyes: ODDS guy ODDS
no shit, he made it seem like vick taking the falcons to the playoffs this yr was a gimme, so i'm just taking it to the next step for him to see how retarded he really is.

[ShooterMcGavin]

How the hell do you call that stat whoring? You do what you need to do when noone else on your team is performing. When he threw perfect passes they were dropped. You dont remember see'n those dropped passes do you? Only when it was Vick's fault. Yeah right :gay:

Are you sure it was because of his inablity to pass or his receivers inablity to catch the fucking ball.
stat whoring was a term i used loosely to illustrate that the point is, individual stats mean NOTHING (except in "fantasy" football) if your team doesn't win.

same fucking excuses i've heard all year. yeah his receivers dropped passes, but if he learned to put some touch on it maybe that'd help. oh and one more thing, it may be shitty that his receivers may catch 10% of the passes thrown their way cuz they suck, but they will catch 0% of those passes if he doesn't THROW. he's a gahdamn quarterback, if he wants to be on espn every night for his "highlight runs" then bulk the fuck up and play running back.


What the hell? How is a QB supposed to run an offense? Oh, hike then throw the ball, right. That's not his style! When you have a QB that runs less than 4.4 with better agility then most RBs, you want him to stay in the pocket when there's a weak ass offensive line blocking for him. Yeah................ yeah right. You might as well use him to the best of his ability and that's being a mobile QB.

lol that's got to be the most fucking rhetorical question i've heard all yr. HOW is a quarterback supposed to run an offense? christ i guess you must've missed every single colts and patriots game for oh the last 6 yrs? tell you what, watch manning or brady PRE-SNAP and see how many adjustments they're able to make just based on their knowledge of their own offense and the opposing defenses. THAT'S how you run an offense and that's how you win championships.

not his style? then refer to what i said earlier, he can play another position. if you "use him to the best of your ability" as a qb, then don't expect to win a superbowl with him at the helm of the offense, EVER.

[con]

and the caper continues.........since this deal is done, can't wait to see who they waste their picks on........

[ShooterMcGavin]

lol :stupid:

[PhAtBoYMr2]

lol @ people comparing shaub to brett farve....shaub will NEVER amount to brett favre.

lol @ all the "sports analyst" on there that have no fucking idea what there talking about

lol @ people saying vick can't take the falcons to a superbowl when were were only 1 game away from a superbowl a few seasons back. There are many capable quarterbacks in league that haven't even gotten that far.(conference championship)

[ShooterMcGavin]

^^^lol at mark for thinking he's a treasure trove of football knowledge :D

[PhAtBoYMr2]

I never said i was the treasure trove of football knowledge but the shit some of you people come up with is plain retarded

makes me wonder if you people really watch football.

a couple people know there shit though *cough teejay***cough **tony*

[ShooterMcGavin]

lol right, so basically anyone who's not a falcons fan doesn't know football, makes perfect logical sense :rolleyes:

[PhAtBoYMr2]

You said that the falcons will never win a superbowl with mike vick

can you explain the "logic" behind that?

[tony]

and the caper continues.........since this deal is done, can't wait to see who they waste their picks on........

The Falcons picked up Norwood and Jimmy Williams last year.. I'd hardly call those wasted picks. Oh yeah we swung a deal to get Abraham with one of those picks and STILL got who we wanted. Rich Mckay is far from stupid, he was the GM in Tampa Bay when they put together that Superbowl team. And again he got 2 spots in the first round and TWO second round draft picks for a backup QB that has not won a game and has thrown 6 touchdowns and 6 intereceptions... I think the Falcons know what they're doing.

I seriously question if some of you are reading before you post up. We need defensive players and we have two draft picks to make it happen.. it doesn't take a genius.

[ShooterMcGavin]

^^^need defensive players? i could've sworn the falcons needed a few sure handed receivers...

[ShooterMcGavin]

but according to mark's logic, i'm not a falcons fan so therefore i must not know shit about football....goodluck to vick and his current receivers :goodjob:

[ShooterMcGavin]

You said that the falcons will never win a superbowl with mike vick

can you explain the "logic" behind that?
lol that was a prediction, much like yours that the falcons will for sure make the playoffs....unless you're trying to say that it's a logical fact that they will show up in the playoffs? ;)

[tony]

The Falcons can put points up on the board, the problem is keeping the other team out of the game. We have a SERIOUS issue at safety and cornerback that needs to be addressed. They cannot cover and they cannot tackle, we need someone like Troy Polamalu that can not only cover in the secondary but also blitz and put pressure on the quarterback if need be. If you get a good linebacker you make it easier for the secondary, get a good secondary and the falcons will be a serious team.

Remember that Carolina game early in the year when Jake Delhome just got completely frustrated because every time he stepped back he was looking at a defensive lineman? Everything came together, the offense had good field position to work with, the receivers and Vick were motivated.. the run game was just awesome. A strong defense does so much more than just keep the other team out of the end zone and that is what we need to focus on. We have one of the most productive offenses in the league, get the defense on board and we are sure to get into the playoffs.

Like Vick we are stuck with our receivers, we went out and got Joe Horn and I think that was more about the development of our young receivers rather than Joe making a difference on the field.

[ShooterMcGavin]

^^^just like u, i recall the game against the saints this yr when his current receivers dropped no less than 3 absolutely catchable balls....but whatever, i don't care, the worse the falcons are the better for the bucs and the saints :D

[tony]

Crumpler dropped one of those passes which was in the end zone.. I mean who do you blame on that one? Vick or the receivers? Should we get rid of Alge? No..

I'll take it one step further, put Vick on the bears team of 06-07, think they still would have made it to the superbowl? Remember he's replacing Rex Grossman who was a guaranteed 2 or 3 interception a game quarterback.

[ShooterMcGavin]

alge drops 1 in 10, his other receivers drop about 5 out of 10....what do you think?

depends, don't forget that grossman was about as jekyl&hyde of a qb as you could've found last season. his solid qb play through the first 6-8 games of the season is what got them rolling, even if he did crumble late season.

[tony]

Rex had about 3 or 4 true solid games, after that the defense saved his butt more times than others.

The Falcons game you're talking about against N.O.. the falcons were demoralized in that game... why? N.O was the first team to figure out the spread option that Atlanta was using, the same offense Texas used with Vince Young if you remember. NOBODY in the NFL uses it and the Falcons figured out why that game, defensive linemen run 4.4-4.6 40's in the NFL. Every time Vick dropped back he was sacked or ran out of the pocket which forced him to make dumb decisions. Receivers are used to running their routes and getting the ball but the way the offense was executed and shut down it took the offense out of the game. We did not score one touchdown that game.

That type of offense is real pretty when it works but dangerous when it doesn't and that is what happened. Not to mention N.O had momentum, first game back in the dome.. huge spotlight and they come out scoring off of a blocked kick.

[BB6dohcvtec]

You said that the falcons will never win a superbowl with mike vick

can you explain the "logic" behind that?

The logic is simple, vick wants more money, falcons will give it to him = No Money for quality wr's that vick needs which also = a not so good defense. And i don't know too much about alge's contract but if he is vick only target for the next few season and he continues to put up monster stats he is going to want Tony Gonzales(sp?) money which the falcon can't give so yea. pz

[{X}Echo419]

the Falcons need a whole fucking new team....well except for Morten Anderson. that mutha fucker is the only consistent player on the team. :yes:

HA! the Falcons could be the 1st team evar to build their team around a kicker! :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[BB6dohcvtec]

the Falcons need a whole fucking new team....well except for Morten Anderson. that mutha fucker is the only consistent player on the team. :yes:

HA! the Falcons could be the 1st team evar to build their team around a kicker! :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

:lmfao:

[TeeJay]

I never said i was the treasure trove of football knowledge but the shit some of you people come up with is plain retarded

makes me wonder if you people really watch football.

a couple people know there shit though *cough teejay***cough **tony*
:ninja:

[tony]

I can admit when I'm wrong and I wont lie.. I'm eating every word I posted in this thread now.

[OneSlow5pt0]

lol.........

[Nomad!]

:lmfao:

[bigdare23]

LOL

[DieselNuts]

i knew we shoulda kept schaub...

[2.0civic]

i knew we shoulda kept schaub...


word...anyone want to make predictions on falcons season??

Whos going to step up in QB (not really step up, just come up i should have said)?

[Nomad!]

Joey may still have some good games in him. If the O-line & receivers do their jobs, Falcons fans may still be able to cheer this season

[BB6dohcvtec]

I think joey is going to fill in good if need be this season becuase petrino's offense fits what he is good at, if he can be a lil more accurate i don't see why we won't make the playoffs this year

[sshonda2004]

wow for those of you who think schaub is better than vick..HES NOT, schaub has never won a regular season game for the falcons when he has started for them, so go figure.

[tony]

wow for those of you who think schaub is better than vick..HES NOT, schaub has never won a regular season game for the falcons when he has started for them, so go figure.

He's better than Vick behind bars. (yes i've joined the haters!)

[OneSlow5pt0]

He's better than Vick behind bars. (yes i've joined the haters!)

:lmfao: .and iv always belive that matt was better than vick....just vick is more marketable,but guess we will see

[BB6dohcvtec]

no you won't because matt will be to busy getting off his back all season after he gets sacked about a 100 times this season, at least the texans gave him a nice contract

[TeeJay]

vick is playing this year guys, like it or not