IMHO think with 22's Mike would be at the 13/12 border if not better. PS: Mike, no more sentra for me, I had enough so Im parting it out. Im putting the motor in a car I hid in the woods years back. Im tired of going through 3 transmissions in 15k so now its going into a lighter rwd chassis. Though it will take close to a year, so if you dont go with the other monster motor by then, then we will link up once again for some runs.