Miami Heat LOL

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Originally Posted by E36slide

How so... I drive a m3 and a Miata?...... Im 23 and go to athens tech, and own my own business. You don't know anything about me. I sold a single cam 240 and ur your basing all your information off that. I don't have time to sit around looking up pointless information. Why do y'all give a fuck? You probably suck at sports, but you know everything about these said sports. I play basketball but I don't dick ride all the players stats. I mean I idolize some players but not enough to google their whole career.


Did you just learn all those words today? You think by throwing out such words makes you look cool? Your wasting your education on a forum congratulations sir.

If you would like too compare builds we can do that? But more so on the track ;)

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Hmmm.....

I seem to remember you going from this piece of shit
http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/...-01-09_602.jpg
to a piece of shit 240, and then to this piece of shit
http://images.craigslist.org/5L95Ic5...e1f2c216fe.jpg

and offering to trade it to every single person with a car ad up in the listings.

See a lot of trading going on...... feel free to post up something you "built".

check this video of you bouncing this piece of shit off the revlimiter to do this pathetic burn out. I could lay longer stripes than that rolling @ 50. If i did that in my 240, your neighbors would have called the fire department. other hilarious note is......... that video of you abusing your piece of shit car..... came from a for sale ad!!!! as if someone was gonna go "holyshit look at this kid beating the fuck out of this teenager built bmw!!!! i gotta have that motherfucker, where's my checkbook!!!!!".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...qaOgvFPOk#t=0s


No need to get so worked up guy. You're taking it to a personal level that it wasnt at. I didnt even remember the 240 until you just mentioned it. Didnt even remember you until i just back tracked a few posts..... i generally comment on the content of the post and not to the poster.

Your comments about Durant and OKC are ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Vteckidd

I think OKC has more depth and is a much deeper team than Miami has faced. Lets be honest Boston was 8 minutes from going to the finals, OKC has a depth and scoring that Boston does not.

Ibaka and Perkins and Collison , we saw what they did to the Spurs/Lakers/Dallas bigs. WB will be all over Chalmers.

The key to he heat having any shot IMO is BOsh playing exceptional, 3pt shooters have to hit, and wade has to show up.

OKC IMO just has to play GOOD

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Not to mention that Boston got shafted by the refs in game 2. Seems like the stripes spotted Miami a 2 game head start and Boston ran out of gas a few feet from the finish line.

in other news, why cant you fucking mods leave people's shit alone?

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

Give me an explanation for the stats i provided. You've been a stat junky and proclaimed expert this entire thread so lets hear it. When you argue a point, the stats are concrete evidence and cannot be disputed.............

so dispute the stats i just laid forth. you have no answer because there is no answer.

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provide stats for every game paul has played vs parker. then i will reply, dont pick and choose what games you wanna talk about and what games you dont. when you are talking h2h you take every game.... what you just told me is that the spurs are better then the hornets and clippers, obvious.

and what are those pics for? For someone throwing out the word kid all the time. you are acting REAL childish. are there no pics of tony parker with his hands on his head? whats the fucking point of that, u are ridiculous to a default.

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

in other news, why cant you fucking mods leave people's shit alone?

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i take blame for that............i found it humorous

go heat!

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Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe

provide stats for every game paul has played vs parker. then i will reply, dont pick and choose what games you wanna talk about and what games you dont. when you are talking h2h you take every game.... what you just told me is that the spurs are better then the hornets and clippers, obvious.

and what are those pics for? For someone throwing out the word kid all the time. you are acting REAL childish. are there no pics of tony parker with his hands on his head? whats the fucking point of that, u are ridiculous to a default.

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Ok, but you argued Miami vs OKC and you didnt want to use every game... you just wanted playoff stats....

but now with Parker vs Paul, we cant just argue playoff stats?

How come Parker's numbers go up in big games and Paul's go down in big games? simple question.

Paul's playoff stats are worse than his season stats. Fact.
Parker's playoff stats are better than his season stats. Fact.

Im trying to play your game.

i tried to find a picture of Chris Paul doing this.......... couldnt find any.
http://cache2.artprintimages.com/p/L...p-trophy-5.jpg

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

Ok, but you argued Miami vs OKC and you didnt want to use every game... you just wanted playoff stats....

but now with Parker vs Paul, we cant just argue playoff stats?

How come Parker's numbers go up in big games and Paul's go down in big games? simple question.

Paul's playoff stats are worse than his season stats. Fact.
Parker's playoff stats are better than his season stats. Fact.

Im trying to play your game.

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Simple answer. This year, injury. The other years, paul dominated him. His team didnt, obviously. Dynasty vs a team with david west as their 2nd beat player. lol.

Let me remind you what I'm sure you don't remember..... and this is against the defending champion SPURS......

game 1...... CP3 on fire at Hornets vs. Spurs Playoffs Game 1 - YouTube
game 2......Chris Paul's 30 Points, 12 Assists Stop Spurs - YouTube
game 3......Chris Paul 35 points highlights vs Spurs (game 3 of 2008 playoffs) - YouTube
game 4..... Chris Paul's 23/6/5/3 in Game 4 vs Spurs, 2008 Playoffs (May 11, 2008) - YouTube

just a little of what im sure you forgot. but yea this year he was hurt in the memphis series. which im sure you didnt see either. im sure you had to be in bed, so you missed him lead the biggest comeback in playoff history.

so eli manning is better then dan marino because he has 2 rings and dan has zero?
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is eli manning's giants teams better then dan marino's teams?

so jordan isnt better then bill russell, right? when you talk about individual people being better then another, what their teams accomplish doesnt say which player is better. common sense.

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Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe

Simple answer. This year, injury. The other years, paul dominated him. His team didnt, obviously. Dynasty vs a team with david west as their 2nd beat player. lol.

Let me remind you what I'm sure you don't remember..... and this is against the defending champion SPURS......

game 1...... CP3 on fire at Hornets vs. Spurs Playoffs Game 1 - YouTube
game 2......Chris Paul's 30 Points, 12 Assists Stop Spurs - YouTube
game 3......Chris Paul 35 points highlights vs Spurs (game 3 of 2008 playoffs) - YouTube
game 4..... Chris Paul's 23/6/5/3 in Game 4 vs Spurs, 2008 Playoffs (May 11, 2008) - YouTube

just a little of what im sure you forgot. but yea this year he was hurt in the memphis series. which im sure you didnt see either. im sure you had to be in bed, so you missed him lead the biggest comeback in playoff history.

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so 2008 proves more than this season???

Injuries are part of the game..... if you're on the floor, you're on the floor.

For their entire careers.....

Parker has scored 603 total points vs Chris Paul's 612 against each other. Seems pretty close for someone to be offended that anyone is even making a case for another PG being in Chris Paul's league. Not even taking into account that as i mentioned before..... Paul's stats suffer in games that matter and Parker's elevate. Parker also plays less minutes and has a lot more coasting time on his regular season stat sheet.

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Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe

so eli manning is better then dan marino because he has 2 rings and dan has zero?
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is eli manning's giants teams better then dan marino's teams?

so jordan isnt better then bill russell, right? when you talk about individual people being better then another, what their teams accomplish doesnt say which player is better. common sense.

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Dan Marino vs Eli Manning is a reasonable argument at this point i think. Especially since Eli still has a long career ahead of him.

Bill Russell and Jordan's stats are no where near as comparable as Parker and Paul.

It's not like im saying "one guy has 4 rings, the other guy has 3, the guy with 4 is better"

One guy with no rings stats are slightly better than a guy with 3 rings. The guy with 3 rings has better playoff stats than the guy with no rings.

I am making a valid argument..... and you're starting to reach and back peddle.


Tony Parker's stats are better in the playoffs than they are in the season.
Chris Paul's stats are worse in the playoffs than they are in the season.

Explain this.

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

Tony Parker's stats are better in the playoffs than they are in the season.
Chris Paul's stats are worse in the playoffs than they are in the season.

Explain this.

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When you are a #1 seed you play # 8 seeds. When you are a #7 seed, you play #2 seed. Chris paul has never had the best pf in the history of the nba on his team. Never been a high seed. You are speaking about this seasons playoffs right? Because you are wrong about chris pauls playoff stats. dig a little deeper..... btw, points are not what makes a great pg. ask russell westbrook..... great player, trash as a pg

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

I am making a valid argument..... and you're starting to reach and back peddle.

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You are not making a valid argument. I JUST told you, when you compare a single player to a single player, what their teams have accomplished has nothing to do with it. Did you not read? Kwame Brown has as many rings as tony parker, so fucking what. When CP3 is healthy and plays tony, he wears his ass out. look at the videos i posted up (that you didnt watch) look what he did against tony in tony parkers prime, fresh off a title. i could post all the stats proving you wrong about chris pauls playoff stats, but after doing all that before, i see you dont read it. so quit asking me to reply. you ignore what i type so there is no point.

go heat!

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

Parker has scored 603 total points vs Chris Paul's 612 against each other.

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What about assists? What about steals? What about turnovers? Tony parker is a scoring PG. Thats it. You posting up their points proves my point, you are outscored by a PG that is 100% distribute first and score second. Post up their career stats complete. Watch the difference there.


BTW... this season.... chris paul is better then tony parker in points, rebounds, assists, steals, less turnovers a game, offensive rebounds, defensive rebounds, field goals made (they both have the exact same attempts), 3pt made, attempted AND %, Free throws made, attempted AND %......

tony parker is better in field goal %...... .480 to .477

yea i'll take chris paul...... btw here is something else you will ignore, look who is #1 and who is #7 in efficiency....... Chris Paul NBA Comparison 2011-2012 - Chris Paul NBA Fantasy Basketball Stats

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

Hmmm.....

I seem to remember you going from this piece of shit
http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/...-01-09_602.jpg
to a piece of shit 240, and then to this piece of shit
http://images.craigslist.org/5L95Ic5...e1f2c216fe.jpg

and offering to trade it to every single person with a car ad up in the listings.

See a lot of trading going on...... feel free to post up something you "built".

check this video of you bouncing this piece of shit off the revlimiter to do this pathetic burn out. I could lay longer stripes than that rolling @ 50. If i did that in my 240, your neighbors would have called the fire department. other hilarious note is......... that video of you abusing your piece of shit car..... came from a for sale ad!!!! as if someone was gonna go "holyshit look at this kid beating the fuck out of this teenager built bmw!!!! i gotta have that motherfucker, where's my checkbook!!!!!".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=abqaOgvFPOk#t=0s


No need to get so worked up guy. You're taking it to a personal level that it wasnt at. I didnt even remember the 240 until you just mentioned it. Didnt even remember you until i just back tracked a few posts..... i generally comment on the content of the post and not to the poster.

Your comments about Durant and OKC are ridiculous.

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That bmw was a track car only... the Miata is a very nice car and everything on it is new. The 240 I bought to make a quick 2k off... I bought it for 2000 sold it for 4500. My Miata is selling for 7k Thursday. My m3 is a 95 that I daily and is in mint condition. I have a Tsi awd pushing 31psi care to run? The video was to demonstrate a 3.91lsd swap in a 325i (faster then a m3 and a lot cheaper) im one of the first people to ever do it. Your just a dick in general. I doubt you would be so cocky if this convo was face to face.

Let the dick ride commence.

If you care to meet me at the track in that s15 feel free to hit me up ;)


Feel free to hop off when your ass starts to hurt.

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Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe

When you are a #1 seed you play # 8 seeds. When you are a #7 seed, you play #2 seed. Chris paul has never had the best pf in the history of the nba on his team. Never been a high seed. You are speaking about this seasons playoffs right? Because you are wrong about chris pauls playoff stats. dig a little deeper..... btw, points are not what makes a great pg. ask russell westbrook..... great player, trash as a pg

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i am arguing concrete facts.... the stats.... things that actually happened and cannot be disputed. You are arguing your emotional opinion based on what ifs. What i am saying can be confirmed. Your fantasy about how good Paul would be if he was drafted with Tim Duncan or played for a different team is just speculation.

Tony Parker's stats increase in the playoffs. His playoff stats are better than Chris Paul. Tony Parker is a champion and Chris Paul is not.

Those are facts.

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

i am arguing concrete facts.... the stats.... things that actually happened and cannot be disputed. You are arguing your emotional opinion based on what ifs. What i am saying can be confirmed. Your fantasy about how good Paul would be if he was drafted with Tim Duncan or played for a different team is just speculation.

Tony Parker's stats increase in the playoffs. His playoff stats are better than Chris Paul. Tony Parker is a champion and Chris Paul is not.

Those are facts.

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post the stats that are better. chris outplayed tony parker this year man..... its all over the net. he dominated a memphis team superior to his own, took them to 7 games and helped his team get the win in game 7. injured.

show me stats of tony being better. show me the stats, not oh yea he got one more point or one less point. tony parker is a scoring pg, he isnt fucking with paul in any other category. did you not read what i sent you????

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Originally Posted by E36slide

That bmw was a track car only... the Miata is a very nice car and everything on it is new. The 240 I bought to make a quick 2k off... I bought it for 2000 sold it for 4500. My Miata is selling for 7k Thursday. My m3 is a 95 that I daily and is in mint condition. I have a Tsi awd pushing 31psi care to run? The video was to demonstrate a 3.91lsd swap in a 325i (faster then a m3 and a lot cheaper) im one of the first people to ever do it. Your just a dick in general. I doubt you would be so cocky if this convo was face to face.

Let the dick ride commence.

If you care to meet me at the track in that s15 feel free to hit me up ;)


Feel free to hop off when your ass starts to hurt.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 2

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So you have videos of a POS BMW that is a "track car only" doing shitty revlimiter bounce burnouts in a neighborhood street, but you dont have any information on this mysterious 10 second TSI............

Here you go making things personal again. Anything i say to you here i would say to your face. Nothing about a young kid who gets angry about forum comments threatens or intimidates me in the slightest. If i saw you get out of your car and walk into a grocery store, i wouldnt run over flag you down and say "hey thats a piece of a shit", but if you walked up to me and asked "what do you think about this car" which is exactly what youre doing when you post pictures and videos of it on a public forum, i would tell you same thing i say now. Calm down kid

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Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe

post the stats that are better. chris outplayed tony parker this year man..... its all over the net. he dominated a memphis team superior to his own, took them to 7 games and helped his team get the win in game 7. injured.

show me stats of tony being better. show me the stats, not oh yea he got one more point or one less point. tony parker is a scoring pg, he isnt fucking with paul in any other category. did you not read what i sent you????

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just gonna copy and paste this until you have an answer for it, since you clearly dont. Argument over.

Fact- Chris Paul is 10-17 in the playoffs with most of his losses being blowouts by Tony Parker himself.
Fact- Tony Parker avgs 1 less ppg than Paul and plays nearly 5 minutes less a game. Parker's point per minute avgs are higher.

Paul vs Parker in head to head in games that actually mattered this season.

Game 1 - Paul 10 assists, 5 turnovers, 6 points Loss.
Game 2 - Paul 5 assists, 8 turnovers, 10 points Loss.
Game 3 - Paul 11 assists, 3 turnovers, 12 points Loss.
Game 4 - Paul 11 assists, 2 turnovers, 23 points. Finally a good game from God's anointed PG..... but he turned the ball over in the potentially game winning situation. Loss.

Game 1 - Parker 11 assists, 4 turnovers, 7 points. Win.
Game 2 - Parker 5 assists, 3 turnovers, 22 points. Win.
Game 3 - Parker 10 assists, 3 turnovers, 23 points. Win.
Game 4 - Parker 5 assists, 6 turnovers, 17 points. Win.

Another thing about Parker, he plays up to his competition............ which Chris Paul and the Clippers offer very little of.

Chris Paul's statistics decrease in the playoffs from his season totals. Tony Parker's season stats increase in the playoffs.

Chris Paul's PPG went from 19.8 during the season to 17.6 in the playoffs and 12.5 in head to head meetings with Tony Parker.
Tony Parker's PPG went from 18.3 during the season to 20.1 in the playoffs, 22.2 vs their toughest competitor OKC and 24.5 in his last trip to the NBA Finals.

These statistics support my OPINION that GREAT players rise to the occasion during the real season. Tony Parker has been on the grand stage and he took home the trophy. When the going gets tough, Tony Parker's stats rise. The exact opposite for Chris Paul.

I could give a fuck less who wins regular season awards....... every player in the NBA plays the game for 1 reason......... and Tony Parker has 3 of them.

Chris Paul's stats, even though they are better on paper than the other PGs in the conversation..... theyre relative to the pack. He isnt blowing anyone away statistically. So with that said..................

I'll take the PG with the rings.

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

just gonna copy and paste this until you have an answer for it, since you clearly dont. Argument over.

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Tony outplays paul in the playoffs?

Career playoff stats

chris paul ..... 20.5ppg, 10.1apg, 2.3spg, 5.2rpg, 82%ft, 34% 3pt, 47% fg
tony parker .. 18.9ppg, 5.1apg, 1spg, 3.2rpg, 72% ft, 30% 3pt, 46% fg

yea you are right, when the playoffs come, he completely outshines paul....

here are the stats from this years series between them two, when paul was hurt....

chris paul.... 12.8ppg, 9.3apg, 2.8spg, 4rpg, 100% ft, 33% 3pt, 37% fg
tony parker... 17.3ppg, 7.8apg, 1.2spg, 3.3rpg, 83%ft, 17% 3pt, 36% fg

looking at the % from this series, this tells me paul shot a considerable amount of times LESS then parker, and still has better stats.... what playoff stats were you looking at? and the regular season is NO CONTEST, dont forget that. wanna see those too?:no:

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Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe

Tony outplays paul in the playoffs?

Career playoff stats

chris paul ..... 20.5ppg, 10.1apg, 2.3spg, 5.2rpg, 82%ft, 34% 3pt, 47% fg
tony parker .. 18.9ppg, 5.1apg, 1spg, 3.2rpg, 72% ft, 30% 3pt, 46% fg

yea you are right, when the playoffs come, he completely outshines paul....

here are the stats from this years series between them two, when paul was hurt....

chris paul.... 12.8ppg, 9.3apg, 2.8spg, 4rpg, 100% ft, 33% 3pt, 37% fg
tony parker... 17.3ppg, 7.8apg, 1.2spg, 3.3rpg, 83%ft, 17% 3pt, 36% fg

looking at the % from this series, this tells me paul shot a considerable amount of times LESS then parker, and still has better stats.... what playoff stats were you looking at? and the regular season is NO CONTEST, dont forget that. wanna see those too?:no:

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If you're on the floor, you're on the floor. When you're "hurt", you're sitting on the bench in street clothes.

Tony Parker 4-0 in games that mattered vs Chris Paul this season. Chris Paul is 10-17 for his career in games that mattered. 8 of those losses are to Tony Parker. Tony Parker is a 3 time champion. Chris Paul has never been remotely close to even being considered a championship contender. If you're into fantasy basketball, go with Paul's stats. Parker is a champion.... in the real league, not the fantasy one.

team is better, duh.

not player vs player, like we are discussing. yea ill take the spurs over the hornets or the clippers. but never parker over paul, that would be stupid

so you clearly just ignored the stats again! yes i agree i would take the championship spurs too.

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Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe

team is better, duh.

not player vs player, like we are discussing. yea ill take the spurs over the hornets or the clippers. but never parker over paul, that would be stupid

so you clearly just ignored the stats again! yes i agree i would take the championship spurs too.

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Tony Parker is the leader of a dynasty. He has led his team to 3 championships. He was a finals MVP. In their last title run he avg'd 28 points a game in the playoffs. Tony Parker isnt Robert Horry.... he's not a 6th man, he's not a role player...... he is the leader of the Spurs.


Paul vs Parker in head to head in games that actually mattered this season.

Game 1 - Paul 10 assists, 5 turnovers, 6 points Loss.
Game 2 - Paul 5 assists, 8 turnovers, 10 points Loss.
Game 3 - Paul 11 assists, 3 turnovers, 12 points Loss.
Game 4 - Paul 11 assists, 2 turnovers, 23 points. Finally a good game from God's anointed PG..... but he turned the ball over in the potentially game winning situation. Loss.

Game 1 - Parker 11 assists, 4 turnovers, 7 points. Win.
Game 2 - Parker 5 assists, 3 turnovers, 22 points. Win.
Game 3 - Parker 10 assists, 3 turnovers, 23 points. Win.
Game 4 - Parker 5 assists, 6 turnovers, 17 points. Win.

Chris Paul's PPG went from 19.8 during the season to 17.6 in the playoffs and 12.5 in head to head meetings with Tony Parker.
Tony Parker's PPG went from 18.3 during the season to 20.1 in the playoffs, 22.2 vs their toughest competitor OKC and 24.5 in his last trip to the NBA Finals.

Done with this..... agree to disagree....

only thing i refuse to agree on is that you think your opinions are facts and are somehow more validated than others. Your opinion is your opinion.

i posted all the facts i needed to. but yea. we will agree to disagree....

so who is favored? miami or okc?

I think the problem is you guys are arguing 2 different points that are both correct. Basketball isnt an individual sport its a team sport, probably more of a team sport than any other sport out there.

Chris Paul has played on some scrub teams, I dont even think the clippers are that good. CP3 was also injured for an entire season wasnt he? Despite all that he has put up some superstar numbers. Hes been voted all nba first team which is the NBA saying "hes the best all around talent at his position". ALL NBA is based on regular season numbers IIRC.

Now the second part is your "team" argument. There is a correlation between good players and good teams. YOu can totally say that someone like Parker has had the privledge of playing with a hall of famer or 2. Kobe had Shaq, etc etc etc. So there is an argument that can be made that we maybe we havent see just how good paul is because of the teams he has been on. I mean he went from the Hornets to the Clippers and im pretty sure he had career numbers this year despite nagging injuries.

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Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe

i posted all the facts i needed to. but yea. we will agree to disagree....

so who is favored? miami or okc?

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to my surprise..... Vegas has OKC favored. OKC is -175 to win the series and 5 point favorite in game 1.

NBA couldnt have asked for anything better, absolute perfect ratings scenario. 2 young talented teams, 1 beloved, 1 hated. Will be a star studded and highly satisfying NBA Finals...................




As long as the Heat lose.

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Originally Posted by Vteckidd

I think the problem is you guys are arguing 2 different points that are both correct. Basketball isnt an individual sport its a team sport, probably more of a team sport than any other sport out there.

Chris Paul has played on some scrub teams, I dont even think the clippers are that good. CP3 was also injured for an entire season wasnt he? Despite all that he has put up some superstar numbers. Hes been voted all nba first team which is the NBA saying "hes the best all around talent at his position". ALL NBA is based on regular season numbers IIRC.

Now the second part is your "team" argument. There is a correlation between good players and good teams. YOu can totally say that someone like Parker has had the privledge of playing with a hall of famer or 2. Kobe had Shaq, etc etc etc. So there is an argument that can be made that we maybe we havent see just how good paul is because of the teams he has been on. I mean he went from the Hornets to the Clippers and im pretty sure he had career numbers this year despite nagging injuries.

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If i had to summarize my argument, it would be simply that i put much greater value on what someone has done vs what someone has the potential to do.

No denying that Paul is a great talent and has the potential to do great things..... but i want to see him accomplish something before i start ranking him above hall of famers and world champions based on his regular season stat sheet.

granted, but that is an opinion not everyone has to share. I agree with you, i think Parker and others get put at the back of the line for no reason. Parker and Duncan are probably the most ...........unpopular champions.

The counter argument is even if CP3 had more talent around him, theres no guarantee he will win a championship............example: Miami Heat. Time will tell where CP3 falls into historys greatest.

Another player who has a ton of stats and gets totally unbelievable media hype is Melo. I cant stand Melo, but people always put him at the top.

OKC will be favored because they have HC Advantage, most home teams get a +3 advantage anyway so Miami only being down -2 is about right.

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Originally Posted by Vteckidd

The counter argument is even if CP3 had more talent around him, theres no guarantee he will win a championship............example: Miami Heat. Time will tell where CP3 falls into historys greatest.

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Very true. Also, you cant put 4 players on the floor that avg'd 40 points a game and assume theyre now gonna score 160 points together. You cant assume chemistry is going to take place. You cant just plug Chris Paul's stats into the Spurs lineup. Maybe Tony Parker would have scored 50 points a game if he was on the Hornets.... Maybe Chris Paul would have completely thrown off the Spurs chemistry... these things we will never know and there's no way to prove either.

Chris Paul has a big man now too, Blake Griffin avg'd more ppg than Duncan this year. Duncan also played 28 minutes per game vs Blake Griffin's 36 minutes per game. When evaluating Spur's player statistics, you have to take into consideration how often the Spurs take their foot off the gas. The Spurs do what is needed to make the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

So you have videos of a POS BMW that is a "track car only" doing shitty revlimiter bounce burnouts in a neighborhood street, but you dont have any information on this mysterious 10 second TSI............

Here you go making things personal again. Anything i say to you here i would say to your face. Nothing about a young kid who gets angry about forum comments threatens or intimidates me in the slightest. If i saw you get out of your car and walk into a grocery store, i wouldnt run over flag you down and say "hey thats a piece of a shit", but if you walked up to me and asked "what do you think about this car" which is exactly what youre doing when you post pictures and videos of it on a public forum, i would tell you same thing i say now. Calm down kid

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Im 23 so hardly a kid. Served 4 years in the USMC so again hardly a kid. Call me a kid again and we will have problems.

Im sorry but my Miata is deff not a piece of shit. Its a daily driver and is very clean. We all have our own preferences I guess. I think anyone who jumps on the 240 scene drives pieces of shit. Oh you drive a s15, please tell me all the drifting you do.


I am calm "KID"

http://img.tapatalk.com/a6f869c0-37d6-560f.jpg
Pic of my m3 I guess its a piece of shit too

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can we keep the talk to Basketball and not MY DICK IS BIGGER THAN YOURS car talk.

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Originally Posted by Vteckidd

can we keep the talk to Basketball and not MY DICK IS BIGGER THAN YOURS car talk.

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Tell that fag... he seems to start shit with everyone on here.

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Originally Posted by Vteckidd

Chris Paul has played on some scrub teams, I dont even think the clippers are that good. CP3 was also injured for an entire season wasnt he? Despite all that he has put up some superstar numbers. Hes been voted all nba first team which is the NBA saying "hes the best all around talent at his position". ALL NBA is based on regular season numbers IIRC.

So there is an argument that can be made that we maybe we havent see just how good paul is because of the teams he has been on. I mean he went from the Hornets to the Clippers and im pretty sure he had career numbers this year despite nagging injuries.

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Man I've watched every PG in the nba so closely since 2005 its crazy. There is a huge difference in playing for the lakers versus the hornets. I mean this, look at this year. Look at the swing the "clippers" made. They were the laughing stock of the nba forever. They almost won their division, over the lakers. They didnt just go from not making the playoffs to barely making it. They stormed into the playoff race and knocked out a VERY good memphis team. There is a reason david stern didnt want CP3 to go to the lakers. Even though he was the PG on the all nba team. This is not CLOSE to his best year, look at his stats from 2007-2010. DOMINATING, but nobody saw him until he exploded in the playoffs. He was #2 in the MVP vote behind kobe in 2007 if im mistaken. If not for the black mamba, who is widely considered in the top 10 to ever play the game, he would already have a MVP.

The ONLY reason i say nobody is in his category, is based solely on the fact that he does everything GREAT. Rondo is a passer and a floor general, but in general he can't shoot and doesnt play defense. Tony parker is a great scorer and a descent passer and great leader, but is not a floor general, plays no defense, and doesnt shoot the 3pt shot well. Westbrook is a dominate scorer and finisher, but doesnt run pick and roll well (unless taking a mid range shot), picks when he wants to play defense, and has no clue how to be a floor general and doesnt pass well, and turns the ball over all the time. derrick rose is a great leader and scorer, in spite of being so quick on offense, has no foot speed on defense, not a great passer or floor general. deron williams is great, but he is definitely playing with trash. he will be back in the argument when he goes somewhere decent. He's the one pg i think has a shittier team then cp3, lol. well him and steve nash....

here are pauls career stats.... look at the 07-08 season stats and the 08-09, so yea this year was not his best year.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/chris_...eer_stats.html

Lets take a closer look...... let's compare chris pauls best season to derrick rose mvp season... they both played 80+ games

Derrick Rose.... 25ppg, 7.7apg, 4.1rpg, 1spg, 3.43 to/game, 45%fg, 33% 3pt, 86% ft
Chris paul....... 23ppg, 11apg, 5.5rpg, 2.8spg, 2.5 to/game, 50%fg, 36% 3pt, 87% ft

if kobe wasnt in his "prime" during pauls season he would have a mvp as well. kobe also was averaging 28ppg then, but here is a small link to refresh memory. btw the season i posted above was the year AFTER he finished 2nd in the mvp race. this is just a comparison, nothing more....


NBA.com - Who’s The Man? ........ 2007-2008
NBA.com: Race to the MVP: Another point guard joins the mix ...... 2008-2009

I think the series is going all the way have no clue who is going to win yet.

welcome back westbrook..... we didnt know where u had gone, now you're back and shooting ridiculous shots again, boy do they need cp3. lol..... (stirring up the pot)

actually westbrook is playing REALLY well, 1 turnover , 7 -8 assists. 5-15 sucks your right but they have been makeable shots.

LEBRICK cant hit a jump shot

he needs to quit shooting jump shots, he likes to get into a jumpshot battle with durant, he would dominate him if he would take him off the dribble.... it would be nice to see him contest a durant layup too and quit letting him go directly to the rim. amazing.... some suspect calls in the 3rd quarter too, home court advantage though