What a waste.
What a waste.
Originally Posted by 1439/2000
I do have knowledge of the background. First, I said ONE example. Don't take this as the only thing to prove the Bible is accurate. Jeez, take it to the extreme a little.
Again, what's to say that the President of THIS nation wouldn't rise up and start exterminating people he doesn't like. Try to be a little open-minded. I'm not saying the Death camps are going in to happen, just saying it's a possibility.
I gotta go to my business class. Yall have fun!
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V for Vendetta had a lot of good info in it relating to this very thing. I will have to re-watch it.
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LOL @ the people who believe this shit. I feel sorry that some nerd can control you all that much THAT's what's scary THAT is what will fuck us up lol.
it wouldn't happen, why? cause the president can be removed from office. this is a democracy here, not some 3rd world country.
no one that high up would allow such acts to occur, not the secret service, the marines in the white house, or the staff. word would spread like wild fire and action would be taken
Let me give you an example. Some people support Obama when he says we need socailized medicine. That's great if you support that. What does socialized medicine come from? Socialism. What is Socialism? The mildest form of Communism. Obama is a Muslim. Muslims hate Americans. Why does anyone want this guy in office? He is going to "Change" the nation. I don't want to turn this into a political debate, but I want everyone to look at the facts.
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^is Obama the antichrist?
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Just as your comparison between God and gravity was a bad "analogy." You just stated it that gravity is real. It exists. Who here can prove (besides saying the "Look out your window" crap) that God exists? You? Right. No one can prove, without a doubt, that there is God. Later, QD.
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When you start posting facts, maybe everyone will look at them. So far you have posted shiit. You're rattling off fairy tale rhetoric from the "good book," and falling into the rumor mill that makes Obama a Muslim. Don't talk facts until you obtain some. Please. Later, QD.
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Re-read my posts. I said nothing about God, although Ballerdave did. I believe you had us confused.
The word God was not even typed (to my knowledge).
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Yep, you have us confused. I re-read all my posts I did not discuss religion or God for that matter in any of my posts.
You are forgiven.
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^^^ Damn. How the hail did I quote you with that? My bad, lolol. Later, QD.
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Please don't vote.
I'm trying to convince him not to reproduce. Lets think BIG here.
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GTFO with this Bible bullshit. All Dogma's deserved to be shamed, and your beliefs are silly. Look man, god is actually a flying spaghetti monster, and since you can't disprove his existence, you're going to suffer eternal damnation in boiling marinara sauce with the rest of teh heretics for all eternity.
So do we prepare ourselves properly by accepting your man-god as our savior?
Sorry, I was in a business class. Let me clear up a few things. Apparently I am all by myself on this thread. The only prove I can tell you I have is life experence. I have been on the other side of the fence as well. I was once not a Christian and thats okay. I am not and my life has more meaning and is more fulfilled. Not just mine but everyone I associate with on a daily basis. God wants you to live a life of abundance and stress free. That is how I live me life. I thank God on a daily basis for what he's done in my life. There is TOO much info to share with everyone on this thread. Where or not you wanna beleive what I believe doesn't matter. I'm telling you my experiences and the truths I have experienced and seen.
No, I don't believe that Obama is the anti-christ. I do beleive that he doesn't have the best in store for America.
On a side note. I don't even see any good qualities Obama has. Will someone please post some good facts about him. I am asking someone to try and convince me to vote for him.
As for calling my beliefs silly, you know how rude that is? If you don't agree thats all you have to say. I have a question for you DrivenMind. Why do you think that Humans are on earth? Do you think we just live our lives and die? That seems very dismal to me. I know why I am here and I have purpose. I have direction and I know how my life and afterlife are going to be. It's all good brother!
I hope I covered all responses with ample material. Thank you for reading.
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Wow! This is the first time a conspiracy theory video stirred up people on I.A?
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I never attacked your beliefs. I'm trying to get to the subject at hand which is this video (which you strongly believe in). You read the bible, we get it. More power to you.
All you're doing at this point is dodging real answers concerning this video and trying to flex your religious knowledge muscles.
This video has nothing to do with religion. Why are we making it about religion? It became a discussion about religion because we started to discuss intangibles and (as I expected) religion came up.
Look just give up and say that you have no idea what you speak of when it comes to government and governing itself. This video doesn't deserve as many views as its had and looks like the original poster left you to the dogs. Now hes sitting back, laughing, and watching you get torn a new one because you decided to jump on the bandwagon.
Look don't take it personally. I just need to school you about our system in general. I'll admit I don't know it all but judging by your posts I know a hell of a lot more than you do.
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I realize that you were not attacking my beliefs and I appreciate that. It was the other guy that no one cares about that was talking about how silly it was that I belief what I believe and that I "deserved to be shamed." Regardless of all of this the reason I bring The Bible into this is because it does relate with the videos. I have already explained this. Go back through the tread and read a little more.
I will agree with you though, you probably know more about government than I do. I'm not flexin any muscle in that matter. I do know the other side of the argument which involves corruption of government which would eventually lead to something like we started talking about.
Lastly, I don't strongly believe in the videos. I do strongly believe that the info in the videos could be a likely possibility. You yourself can not deny that it is possible? If the Holocaust was a possibility then this could be a possible.
BMW - By the way, don't make yourself sound so much smarter based on age. You've have, according to your profile, only existed on this ball of mud for 11 months more than me. We will talk about life experiences in about 20 years.
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To all my brothers reading this tread. Fill yourself with His word. Read it daily and avoid the negative of this world: Gossip, Television, Liberal media etc. It will cause you to be prepared for the worst. Ask Jesus Christ into your life and don't ever reject Him. Greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world. The devil is of the world and he comes to fill you with negative thoughts, words and actions. Jesus came to crush the devil and pay for our sins with His perfect sinless life and innocent death. Thank God that He sent His only Son!
I'm done with this tread. If you have any further comments or questions PM me.
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Yes I read your previous posts. Once again, religion has nothing to do with this discussion because you attributed intangibles to something intangible like the "unknowns" portrayed in the video.
Now since you brought up "possibilities".....
There's also a possibility of being attacked by spaceship full of clones of John Stamos from Mars. Possible? Yes. Probable? Absolutely not.
You sit there and worry about possibilities and fail to realize probabilities.
Please.....seriously sit and think about that sentence. Do you even know the difference between possibilities and probabilities?
I'm not basing the fact that YES I AM SMARTER THAN YOU on age. Its not based on life experiences but the ability to grasp reality and propaganda. I never said I was smarter than you until now. Your posts prove it.
I'll be the first to admit that those fucking 14 year old Indian kids in the spelling bee are far smarter than I'll ever be. Age has nothing to do with it. I can be 10 years younger than you and I promise I'll have more knowledge of the real world than you ever will.
You are a sheep. You are easily led to believe what people want you to believe based on a video created in a fat kid's basement.
Once again, PROBABILITY shows that the US will not falter to dictatorship.
POSSIBILITY shows that anything can happen. PROBABILITY shows that the chances of it happening are slim to none.
If you want to "prepare" for mass murder by the government, while youre at it prepare for an army of John Stamos' to come knocking on your door.
John Stamos : "Have mercy."
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Seriously, read pages 1-8 and check how many people agreed with the OP and now aren't so quick to say anything at this point realizing how fucking stupid they look.
They were relatively smart to actually decide to back away from a subject they know they were absolutely incorrect in.
Please do the same.
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It's only dismal if you're used to thinking there's some grand paradise after death. To me the existence we lead is that paradise, and it is up to us to do what we can in the time we are a lotted. I think the matter than we are made up of simply changes states when we die, and I also believe we have our entire lives to lead as best as possible so that when we're on our death bed, taking our final breaths we can welcome the end knowing we lived life to the best our our abilities. No Heaven or Hell, just the next step towards the unknown.
Here is the deal, nobody on this thread has posted anything that I don't know about yet. I haven't learned a thing from anyone. Yall are tellin me stuff I already know. This thread has been me posting my opinions and then someone basing them and then me making a valid point followed by me getting based again. I'm tired of the abuse. JUst relax and go about your lives and watch as events that are prophesied in the Bible unfold. It won't take long for you to realize, that BallerDave kid Kinda knew what he was talking about. The prove is in the future and I pray that you figure out the truth before it's too late.
I let the peace of God rule in my heart and I refuse to worry about anything.
-Colossians 3:15
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2nd time i post this:
Article I found:
http://www.morgancountycitizen.com/?q=node/7524And, according to Vantage Products Corporation Vice President of Operations Michael Lacey, thats exactly when the calls started pouring in.
Its been going on for quite a while, about a week, Lacey said.
Lacey maintains that the theories regarding the property, and whats on it, arent quite accurate.
The coffins arent coffins at all, according to Lacey. Instead, they are burial vaults, the outer container for caskets, Lacey said, placed in the ground before the coffin to protect the coffin and maintain level ground above.
There are currently 50,000 of these burial vaults on the property, according to Lacey. As the vaults were placed on the site around 1997 or 1998, there may have been as many as 70,000 or 80,000 to begin with.
Its nowhere near the quantity they talk about on the Internet, Lacey said.
This quantity of burial vaults, Vantages Standard Air Seal model in black, also the least expensive model and the most in-demand, was made to cater to what Lacey calls the funeral industrys pre-need. This pre-need occurs when people make arrangements for their funeral before they actually pass away, so that the family doesnt have to go through the perceived stress of making the arrangements. When these arrangements are made, the products are paid for; obviously, though, they are not yet needed.
So, Vantage stores the product until the person dies, and the product is needed.
Further, pallets of the burial vaults are moved truckloads at a time, as there is space for a palate at the
Contrary to the beliefs of the theorists, then, the burial vaults arent owned by the government, or FEMA. Instead, theyre owned by individuals, or not yet sold.
Theyre not owned by any one individual, company or the government, Lacey said.
Further, Vantage leases the land, located at 1200 Madison Industrial Boulevard, from Conyers Welding & Supply and has for four to five years, a fact confirmed by Conyers Welding & Supply. Conyers Welding & Supply took over the lease when the property was purchased from Robert Usury in 2000. Usury purchased the property in 1989, according to information provided by the Morgan County Tax Assessors Office and the Morgan County Online Public Property Portal.
The answer as to why the vaults are being stored in Madison? To put it simply, the Covington-based manufacturer got a good deal close to home.
It was the most cost-effective place, Lacey said.
That's great, you don't think government would try to cover things up IF it were going to happen? That is a BIG IF. Don't bash me on that. I'm just asking a question. Can't believe everything you read nowadays. The media is WAY left wing.
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I don't know why you think your believes are so accurate and mine are absurd. You have no basis for your believes and I have a plenty. Why would you bash something so much when your opinion could be just as absurd as mine?
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So how are you so sure that it isn't PROBABLE that the government would do something like this? Did you know that they voted 10 against 1 to NOT allow the bailout to happen? Guess what happen? We bailed out the banks. How did that happen? Our "democracy" voted against something and it still happened, why is that? I don't know maybe because the government is flawed and corrupt and wanted to be in more control. Sounds like a plan, lets give government total control...Wait, we don't want that do we? Then it would be a ummm...whats the word I'm lookin for?
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But that's not really proof. You experiences does not prove that God is behind it. You're basing your life on a belief, not on a fact
Why? What are his bad facts? He's black? You think he's Muslim (which he isn't)?
Dismal or not, it may be the truth. No one will know until it happens to that person.
Actually you think you know what it will be. Remember, there is no proof. Later, QD.
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Random facts about Martial Law (i Wikipedia it, and did NO educational research on it.) I myself don't fully understand this concept, and im still learning on it. Maybe this might help others too. Here Goes: "The martial law concept in the U.S. is closely tied with the right of habeas corpus, which is in essence the right to a hearing on lawful imprisonment, or more broadly, the supervision of law enforcement by the judiciary. The ability to suspend habeas corpus is often equated with martial law. Article 1, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution states, "The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion, the public Safety may require it."
In United States law, martial law is limited by several court decisions that were handed down between the American Civil War and World War II. In 1878, Congress passed the Posse Comitatus Act, which forbids military involvement in domestic law enforcement without congressional approval. The Military Commissions Act of 2006 possibly rescinds these limits by suspending habeas corpus, but the law is not clear on whether it applies to U.S. Citizens. Since, USNORTHCOM [5] has increased its direct involvement with civilian administration" (This is all wiki-ed and i will NOT accept or share full or any responsibility of what has been said in the quote.)
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows public opinion.
Here are the limits of congress also "The next section of Article One provided limits on Congress's powers:
Section 9: The migration or importation of such persons as any of the states now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each person.
The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.
No bill of attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
No capitation, or other direct, tax shall be laid, unless in proportion to the census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken.
No tax or duty shall be laid on articles exported from any state.
No preference shall be given by any regulation of commerce or revenue to the ports of one state over those of another: nor shall vessels bound to, or from, one state, be obliged to enter, clear or pay duties in another.
No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law; and a regular statement and account of receipts and expenditures of all public money shall be published from time to time.
No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.
Although the international slave trade was allowed until 1808, Congress prohibited it on January 1, 1808, the first day it was permitted to do so. Until 1808, however, the Constitution permitted Congress to levy a maximum duty of ten dollars per slave imported into the United States.
A writ of habeas corpus is a legal order that commands a law enforcement agency or other body that has a person in custody to have a court inquire into the legality of the detention. The court may order the person released if the reason for detention is deemed insufficient or unjustifiable. The Constitution further provides that the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus may not be suspended except during rebellion or invasion. This clause is known as the Suspension Clause. In Ex parte Milligan (1866), the Supreme Court held that the privilege of the writ could not be suspended while the civilian courts remained operational. State governments are also prohibited from suspending habeas corpus.
A bill of attainder is a law in which a person is immediately convicted without trial. An ex post facto law applies to an act committed before the law was passed, or that was not illegal at the time it occurred.
Section Nine reiterates the provision from Section Two that direct taxes must be apportioned on the basis of state populations. Furthermore, no tax may be imposed on exports from any state. Congress may not, by revenue or commerce legislation, give preference to ports of one state over those of another; neither may it require ships from one state to pay duties in another. All funds belonging to the Treasury may not be withdrawn except in accordance with law. Modern practice is that Congress annually passes a number of appropriation bills authorizing the expenditure of public money. The Constitution requires that a regular statement of such expenditures be published.
Congress may not grant any title of nobility. No civil officer may, without the consent of Congress, accept any emolument, office or title from a foreign ruler or state. However, a U.S. citizen may receive foreign office before or after their period of public service."
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspens...ts_on_Congress
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A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows public opinion.
No, I actually know how my life and afterlife will be. There is no theory. I'm already walking that out. If you've seen what I've seen then you would understand.
The bad facts about Obama...He's pro choice, He's in favor of socialized medicine. Just a few examples. The government of America isn't here to bail everyone else out. You want a country of welfare? This country was based upon Christian believes and the freedom to chose to be a hard worker or not. This is a Free Enterprises system we live in. That is why so many people move to this great country of ours, to create thier own prosperity. Americas don't realze the opprotunities we have here and take them for granted.
I don't expect everyone to understand all of what I'm saying. I'm heard things that most of you haven't. I'm just tryin to tell you that this country was made for business owners. That is why the tax system allows business owners to use it to their advantage. The school systems and media has brain washed everyone into thinking that you are suppose to college and work for someone else. There is nothing wrong with college and schools but there are other options out there. Back before the Industrial Revolution 90% of Americans were business owners. Now 95% of Americans are employees. Anyway, I'm voting for John Mccain because I'm not lookin for a handout. I can take care of myself with the help of my Savior. Dig?
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This thread is a joke. Some info found on the internet, do it must be real, right?
And btw, Tupac, Biggie, and Elvis are all still alive too
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You just don't get it do you? You don't actually know how the afterlife will be anymore than a fetus knows how life will be. There is no way to measure whether or not heaven as it is depicted by hoards of fanatical religious zealots exists or not. The Bible is not a factual historical text. I don't mean to be rude, but think about how crazy you sound.
"I can take care of myself with the help of my theoretical personified divine entity. If you don't believe in my theoretical personified divine entity you can just sit back and watch all the bad things happen to you that are prophesied in my bible." Do you not see how religiously arrogant that sounds? It's okay though, you can just wait and see when as the flying spaghetti monster is gripping you firmly with his noodley appendage, and dipping you into that boiling marinara sauce to spend eternity. Then you will know that FSM is lord.
So who really has a more grim outlook on humanity? The atheist who sees us all as one, but doesn't believe in god, or the believer who thinks we are all but helpless but to watch as doomsday prophecies foretold in a two thousand year old book written by men unfold. Sounds like a pretty defeatist attitude to me, and to think people say Atheism leads to Nihilism...
Do you really think that by not going to college you're going to have a better chance at becoming a business owner. I thought it was all gravy too, I dropped out of college thinking I could just work a regular job and make my own way. But it doesn't work like that anymore. You don't make shit for money working for somebody else without an education, and undisciplined talent isn't worth shit without experience.
First, Jesus existed. Historically you can look it up. I really can't explain anything to you though. It's impossible to get through to you. It's not a dismal outlook. We live our lives in abundance while we are on earth having a selfless mindset. We look forward to the afterlife. Death doesn't scare me. I know that I will live in a paradise after I die. Its not defeat at all, it's actually the opposite. I have already won the battle of life. Christians don't believe we are helpless. Second, the Bible was writen by men through which the Word of God was passed. It is the Word of God. It sets a lot of the stardards by which we live. Even if you don't believe it.
When God created the universe, he kinda knew what he was doin.
By the way, plenty of people make it without further Education. Bill Gates is a great example of that. A good percentage of the people of the top 100 richest people are only high school or only have some college education. You don't have to have a degree to succeed. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Government is ran by "Big Business" for the most part. "Big Business" doesn't want other people to to open businesses of their own. So for years they have been telling you, "go to school, get good grades, go to college so you can get a good job." College only guarantees one thing, you know what that it? A Diplomia. It's not a job. There are plenty of college graduates that don't have jobs because of lay offs and saturated markets. I thank God for Colleges though. I definatly want a doctor that is eduacated working on me. The point I'm trying to address is that it is not the only way. I would much rather work for myself. I already own my own business. So yes, I do beleive that it can happen without college eduation.
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