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    Default K20 EK vs Supra

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhzyBSQmb_c


    I called MAJOR BULLSHIT on this vid on another forum and thought i would get some opinions from you guys.

    I say now way in hell is that Hatch NA, not unless its making 280-300whp.

    I say its got a 75-100shot on it, i have never seen an NA honda move that fast, not even my 240whp/1800lb crx
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    bullshit
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    wow thats wonderful
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    not bullshit...you can make 280-300whp easily out of an NA k20 or k24...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMk24coupe
    not bullshit...you can make 280-300whp easily out of an NA k20 or k24...
    proof?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcutting9
    look back at the 5th and 6th posts in this thread...wasnt that suppose to mean that u didnt think it was possible

    oh well...doesnt really matter..just had to make a point
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    When they ran from a dig he did leave before the 3rd honk but that shit is really fast. i like the end with the firebird

    "it' s just a 4 Cyinder" And smoked his ass lol

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    I havent watched the video but I have seen some fast NA K series hatches. The only that I remember made abot 240whp and was doing pretty well in hwy pulls against a c5 z06. I think the hatch stayed ahead of the z06 1 time and all the rest were verry close, but anything over 120mph in a civc you better have some power to compensate for the wind drag. If you want I will see about posting that video.

    I think mike drove my hatch when I had it, it was pretty fast but not really anything spectacular. Had I invested money into getting an LSD and other things that it probably would have made a big difference. I only did a few hwy rolls with some friends, and I hung with a evo9 rs with full exhaust (both had passengers) and smoked the ever living dog shite out of Black R's Type R ef hatch (only I had a passenger). Only tuning I had in the car was an hour with chunky. I dont know how much it is to do a K sawp now but I did mine a the end of 04 and it was right at $8k to put a STOCK k20a2, stock non lsd tranny, stock clutch, budget header, K pro, Hasport mounts, DSS stage 1 axles (cheapest you could get and no one knew about the OEM combo yet.) Wiring harness, fuel lines, clutch line, fuel rail,etc... and not to mention being nickle and dimed to death. The car went 13.2 @106mph and that was the 1 and only pass I made on slicks. Next pass I sheered an axle. 12's were attainable, but back then it wasnt worth the money. I just wanted to be the 1st!

    I have seen some people throw around that its easy to make 280-300whp in a K series. You guys are dead wrong, it is EASIER to do than a B series but its not easy by any means. I had everything needed to make a big power NA K motor, then I realised how much of a waste of money it would be. I had, 13.5:1 compression pistons, crower rods, GE sleeved block, skunk2 stage 3 cams, etc... I sold every last bit of it. The guy I bought a lot of it from made 260whp in his wifes k20 hatch that had ITB's, shitty Crower stage 2 cam and the bottom end that I have listed. The car still ran low 11's on 24.5" slicks.

    I didnt see much front end movement on the supra while "shifting"
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMk24coupe
    not bullshit...you can make 280-300whp easily out of an NA k20 or k24...
    the owner of the car said it had 203 so the power isnt even 280-200
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    Quote Originally Posted by b18hatch
    the owner of the car said it had 203 so the power isnt even 280-200
    was just reading the arguing over how much power the k20 can make na...so i looked real quick on club rsx in the na section...the first thread i cam across was by a member named davanca....his dyno graph shows 238 whp..meaning his k20 is making somewhere near 280hp...this isnt uncommon...
    see for urself..http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=438906

    ftr..i still dont think that civic would have walked like that if the supra was really 400hp
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcutting9
    was just reading the arguing over how much power the k20 can make na...so i looked real quick on club rsx in the na section...the first thread i cam across was by a member named davanca....his dyno graph shows 238 whp..meaning his k20 is making somewhere near 280hp...this isnt uncommon...
    see for urself..http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=438906

    ftr..i still dont think that civic would have walked like that if the supra was really 400hp
    nobody said it wouldnt make that power...just saying that if its only got the 203whp like the OWNER says, he doesnt cream that supra like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by b18hatch
    nobody said it wouldnt make that power...just saying that if its only got the 203whp like the OWNER says, he doesnt cream that supra like that
    YOU said it wouldnt...or at least doubted it i guess...look back at the 5th and 6th posts in this thread..."proof?"

    not that it matters, just making a point
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMk24coupe
    not bullshit...you can make 280-300whp easily out of an NA k20 or k24...

    orly? show me ONE that makes 280 Wheel Horsepower.

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    Firebird had it's hazzards on before the race...that's classic...

    Looks like the firebird gave a better race then the supra...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyverze
    Firebird had it's hazzards on before the race...that's classic...

    Looks like the firebird gave a better race then the supra...
    Is that surprising???
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    here you go...http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22482

    Quote Originally Posted by HiPSI
    orly? show me ONE that makes 280 Wheel Horsepower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMk24coupe

    that's an engine dyno, not WHP.

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    http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22525


    that appears to be the same car.


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    Its fast but its got more then that k20



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    hondahatch97r (2 days ago)
    no nitrous not sure what button ur asking about ..its my car one of my buddys made the video... all motor on street tires 203whp 150tq 13.05 at the track
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    well nevermind then...

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    SERIOUS BULLSHIT, no way with 200whp
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    yea, impossible.

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    Mr. Kidd builds some of the nastiest Hondas in the south so Im gonna trust his instinct on this one, that ************ is quick though. I dont know shit about Hondas so Im not even gonna try to guess what hes got in it.

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    man i don't know man, don't hear any signs of any shot, gears aren't reving out really fast or anything, that supra isn't 400hp has to be bone stock and plus if you really look at it the supra was coming back on him but he hurried up and got off the throttle, he beat that shit fair and square, look at the race from a role, if he was spraying you would definitely hear it from that dig race
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    If the Hatch is only 203hp then that Supra is obviously not close to 400whp.. For the simple fact that even with a 75shot the Hatch couldnt do that to a 400whp Supra from a roll.. Plus i heard no distinct change in the rate of rev on the Hatch's part so i dont believe that he was on the bottle...
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    it's not the same car!!! at the begining when it shows the pic of the car...you see the red wanna be recaros!!! when he's racing he's in stock seats...idk maybe i'm wrong jus wanted to point that out!


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    I remember hearing about a local supra running like 15.xx at the track with maybe 400whp, so its possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    I remember hearing about a local supra running like 15.xx at the track with maybe 400whp, so its possible
    Yea thats true, Ren or whatevers red Supra.

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    I bet the Supra has a boost leak and doesn't even put down close to the 320 mark it comes with factory. Either that or the dude doesn't know how to drive worth a damn.

    Civic beat it fair and square, and definitly mad props to the Honda guys.

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    Seen that car at the motel before nopi and it is that damn quick!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    I remember hearing about a local supra running like 15.xx at the track with maybe 400whp, so its possible
    rens car?? she also had some issues with it too so it wasnt healthy..

    good find on the seat thing...i didnt notice that...plus on the first pic, i really dont understand why someone would try to make the exterior look that nice and completely strip the inside
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    I remember hearing about a local supra running like 15.xx at the track with maybe 400whp, so its possible
    its possible for someone who can't drive

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    At times the Supra looked like he was just cruzin, but that little sucker can go w/whatever done to it.

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    and that shit definitely looked slow as hell
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    wow...there is no way that was a 400hp supra. the honda pulled harder on it then the bone stock T/A conv from a dig.
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