How to properly Launch: AWD ?

**Julio** · 03-11-2006, 03:53 PM

WTF !! I cant launch for shit!

**St0lenR** · 03-11-2006, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Julio

WTF !! I cant launch for shit!

it's simple hit me up on pm w/ your # so I can show you

**Julio** · 03-11-2006, 04:07 PM

redline @ 7... launching between 3 to 3500..... Bogging like hell...

No matter how much I feather the shit is either bogging like hell or I feel Im not going no where.. I tried both dumping and slipping...

**St0lenR** · 03-11-2006, 04:10 PM

3500 to 4000 and blip the gas when your doing it, and pretend your driving off first gear normally like at a stop light

**HiPSI** · 03-11-2006, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Julio

redline @ 7... launching between 3 to 3500..... Bogging like hell...

No matter how much I feather the shit is either bogging like hell or I feel Im not going no where.. I tried both dumping and slipping...

3-3500 launch will bog most 2wd cars with decent traction, i'm surprised it dosn't stall the TT.

**ct9a gsr** · 03-11-2006, 04:33 PM

Try launching at around 5,500 ~ 6,000 w/ a very slight slip of the clutch (~0.5sec) followed by dumping it. Also, right when you engage the launch, go full WOT and don't let off until your shift point... in other words, don't be at part throttle in the launch.

**St0lenR** · 03-11-2006, 04:43 PM

TT can't handle such a high launch stock clutch is weak and he'll probably mess up something in the rear diff

**ct9a gsr** · 03-11-2006, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by St0lenR

TT can't handle such a high launch stock clutch is weak and he'll probably mess up something in the rear diff

Stock clutches were made to be replaced. ^.^

**brads94accord** · 03-11-2006, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by ct9a gsr

Try launching at around 5,500 ~ 6,000 w/ a very slight slip of the clutch (~0.5sec) followed by dumping it. Also, right when you engage the launch, go full WOT and don't let off until your shift point... in other words, don't be at part throttle in the launch.

this man is correct!

**Dragonfly5338** · 03-13-2006, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by ct9a gsr

Try launching at around 5,500 ~ 6,000 w/ a very slight slip of the clutch (~0.5sec) followed by dumping it. Also, right when you engage the launch, go full WOT and don't let off until your shift point... in other words, don't be at part throttle in the launch.

x2

**4dmin** · 03-11-2006, 04:45 PM

3000-3500 is what i launch my 1.8t on... thats pretty common, its not a civic w/ vtec

**ct9a gsr** · 03-11-2006, 08:31 PM

meh...

**PhAtBoYMr2** · 03-11-2006, 09:03 PM

I see nothing wrong with a 5-6k dump......thats what i do and once i get traction....its over baby

Mid engine launches FTW!

**Speedm0(\)key** · 03-11-2006, 10:49 PM

Julio.. do 4-5k rpms.. start lettinf off the clutch.. when the car jerks forward to start moving, dump/go WOT, rear should bark a bit.

when we run Audi TT vs 350z, i can teach you

**1439/2000** · 03-12-2006, 03:27 PM

2 step!

6k and squat.

**Vteckidd** · 03-12-2006, 04:13 PM

your launchin to low, raise it to 5000rpms and dump it

**Speedm0(\)key** · 03-12-2006, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by vteckidd

your launchin to low, raise it to 5000rpms and dump it

mike.. you CAN do that.. but.. with audis. it'll be just like mitsubishi.. differential/tranny problems waiting to happen

**Nah Mean?** · 03-12-2006, 04:14 PM

Be prepared to pay for repairs.

**Vteckidd** · 03-12-2006, 04:54 PM

if you dont break something you aint going fast enough

jk

**Xrated O.G.** · 03-13-2006, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by vteckidd

if you dont break something you aint going fast enough

jk

WRONG WRONG WRONG........

If you dont break something, than you not making enough power......

No wonder your still n/a.....LMAO..

**Dragonfly5338** · 03-13-2006, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by One Tuning Tuner

WRONG WRONG WRONG........

If you dont break something, than you not making enough power......

No wonder your still n/a.....LMAO..

w00t! that means i'm making power now!

**ct9a gsr** · 03-13-2006, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly5338

w00t! that means i'm making power now!

it's about time... kekeke~!

btw, no reps Julio for typing all that out for you? jeeeezzz, I see how it is. =[

**St0lenR** · 03-12-2006, 05:13 PM

mike remember when everyone at the fudd told me to redline my car and dump it. what happened I shattered the rear diff. and here you go telling him to basically almost do the samething wow you my friend are a smart guy

**BLk92DA** · 03-12-2006, 05:52 PM

Press the clutch in all the way with one foot while pressing the accelerator peddle down with the other foot, raising the engine RPM to a constant moderate level for the first launch around 3500-4k. Lift up on the clutch peddle to the point where the car is just about to start moving and hold both peddles still. Slowly release the clutch while quickly applying the accelerator peddle enough to launch the car quickly, but not too much to induce a large amount of wheel spin. Start conservative with the first launch and keep increasing the RPM at which the car is launched at during the subsequent runs. If the car starts spinning the tires too much after the launch, lower the launch RPM and try again.

Lots of practice required to keep from frying the clutch or bogging the motor

**ct9a gsr** · 03-12-2006, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by BLk92DA

Press the clutch in all the way with one foot while pressing the accelerator peddle down with the other foot, raising the engine RPM to a constant moderate level for the first launch around 3500-4k. Lift up on the clutch peddle to the point where the car is just about to start moving and hold both peddles still. Slowly release the clutch while quickly applying the accelerator peddle enough to launch the car quickly, but not too much to induce a large amount of wheel spin. Start conservative with the first launch and keep increasing the RPM at which the car is launched at during the subsequent runs. If the car starts spinning the tires too much after the launch, lower the launch RPM and try again.

Lots of practice required to keep from frying the clutch or bogging the motor

It really sounds like you have no experience launching an AWD car... you've described how to launch a FWD/RWD. You're basically implying to launch an AWD Turbo car like a sissy. As I said before, right when the launch is engaged, go WOT 'til shift point or go slow... none of this partial throttle shit. Also, holding revs works but not as well as feathering the throttle before the launch... if you blip the gas pedal and hold it at x rpm, it'll create boost and bring you to 0 vac for a brief moment and then settle back into vacuum while you're holding the revs. Now, try feathering the throttle within a 500rpm window with consistant blips of the throttle... every blip will bring you back to 0 vac... and engage the launch synchronized with when you blip the gas pedal so you launch at 0 vac or in boost instead of in vacuum. Consider it as a manual 2-step.

Oh, and ppl are right about bogging... if you bog, launch higher. If you launch higher, be prepared to fix broken shit. Wheel spin is *much* better than bogging anyday.

**Vteckidd** · 03-12-2006, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by ct9a gsr

It really sounds like you have no experience launching an AWD car... you've described how to launch a FWD/RWD. You're basically implying to launch an AWD Turbo car like a sissy. As I said before, right when the launch is engaged, go WOT 'til shift point or go slow... none of this partial throttle shit. Also, holding revs works but not as well as feathering the throttle before the launch... if you blip the gas pedal and hold it at x rpm, it'll create boost and bring you to 0 vac for a brief moment and then settle back into vacuum while you're holding the revs. Now, try feathering the throttle within a 500rpm window with consistant blips of the throttle... every blip will bring you back to 0 vac... and engage the launch synchronized with when you blip the gas pedal so you launch at 0 vac or in boost instead of in vacuum. Consider it as a manual 2-step.

Oh, and ppl are right about bogging... if you bog, launch higher. If you launch higher, be prepared to fix broken shit. Wheel spin is *much* better than bogging anyday.

Agreed, listen to him

**Julio** · 03-12-2006, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by BLk92DA

Press the clutch in all the way with one foot while pressing the accelerator peddle down with the other foot, raising the engine RPM to a constant moderate level for the first launch around 3500-4k. Lift up on the clutch peddle to the point where the car is just about to start moving and hold both peddles still. Slowly release the clutch while quickly applying the accelerator peddle enough to launch the car quickly, but not too much to induce a large amount of wheel spin. Start conservative with the first launch and keep increasing the RPM at which the car is launched at during the subsequent runs. If the car starts spinning the tires too much after the launch, lower the launch RPM and try again.

Lots of practice required to keep from frying the clutch or bogging the motor

Huh? I want to know AWD... I have no issues with FWD. Did it about a millon times with my old LS civic.

Some good info on here.. def appreciate it.

I guess practice makes perfect....

Is amazing the diffrence between awd and FWD......

**SilverJester** · 03-12-2006, 10:11 PM

When my car was stock/near stock, I could hold revs at 6k and dump the clutch and not bog. That doesn't work for me anymore. but basically all I do is hold the rpms at 4.5k and let the clutch up to just beyond th point of friction so that the car moves just an inch and then dump the clutch all the while keeping the gas floored.

**Vteckidd** · 03-12-2006, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by St0lenR

mike remember when everyone at the fudd told me to redline my car and dump it. what happened I shattered the rear diff. and here you go telling him to basically almost do the samething wow you my friend are a smart guy

its fucking AWD, its not rocket science, you rev it up and you drop the clutch, if it bogs, your NOT LAUNCHING HIGH ENOUGH.

Hugo no one ever told you to launch at redline. I beleive we were talking about US HONDA guys doing it. if you did it, hey, thats your fault. Shold know the limits of your car.

BTW: Julio if your really interested, Launching especially on a AWD car is gonna cause stress and be prepared for something to break. But , every AWD car i have ever DRIVEN or LAUNCHED or OWNED, if you launch and it bogs, your launching to low. YOu can try feathering the gas as you drop the clutch. Lauch higher, itll hook

**BTEC** · 03-14-2006, 03:01 PM

on street tires id launch that shit at like 5 or 6k slipping the clutch so i wouldnt break parts. If ur not worried id rev it higher every time and dump the clutch til the tires spin, then back off about 500rpm. good luck bc ive never drove a awd car. lol!!!

**Speedm0(\)key** · 03-14-2006, 05:36 PM

whats hilarious... is... all these fwd people giving advice

**Shawn** · 03-14-2006, 05:48 PM

Launching an AWD was easier for me than launching a FWD with a lot of power. Julio just play with it man, by my 4th run I got it decent. I pre-loaded with the e-brake revved it too 5-5300 and tried to keep it constant and just kinda slipt it. I didnt get a great 60' but it was decent for barley any experience.

**Speedm0(\)key** · 03-14-2006, 06:15 PM

not high enough shawn, do 6000-6500rpm.

in Steele i did 12.4 @ 111mph 1.55 60'

**Shawn** · 03-14-2006, 07:01 PM

My car isnt covered under warranty and I dont want to risk anything. Can you post your slip? Id really like to see it cause I want to compare it to mine. I need to get some mods

**Speedm0(\)key** · 03-14-2006, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Shawn

My car isnt covered under warranty and I dont want to risk anything. Can you post your slip? Id really like to see it cause I want to compare it to mine. I need to get some mods

no point in modding, if its a daily driver then.

Will has the Slip cause he ran it, i beleive i got the 1.6XX 60's,. he posted it a long time ago to make fun of the battleground girl, should be on the boards somewhere.

its not a lancer, you have almost bulletproof drivetrain, trust me, just dont dump like an idiot

- oscar

**Shawn** · 03-15-2006, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by SpeedM0nkey

no point in modding, if its a daily driver then.

Will has the Slip cause he ran it, i beleive i got the 1.6XX 60's,. he posted it a long time ago to make fun of the battleground girl, should be on the boards somewhere.

its not a lancer, you have almost bulletproof drivetrain, trust me, just dont dump like an idiot

- oscar

Why? Are they un-relaible or something when you start modding? I thought you daily drove yours?

**Speedm0(\)key** · 03-15-2006, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Shawn

Why? Are they un-relaible or something when you start modding? I thought you daily drove yours?

well you told me it was gonna be a daily driver and stock, you were gonna build a honda instead, guess you changed your mind?

determine how far you want to go and i can recommend a thing or two.

**Speedm0(\)key** · 03-14-2006, 08:30 PM

shawn, this is what i ran

rctn------ .328
60'-------1.559
330'------5.210
1/8th-----8.068 @ 91.26 mph
1000'----10.417
1/4------12.469 @ 111.49mph

with 301whp 317 awtq. Dyno'ed at T 0 p Sp33d

**Shawn** · 03-15-2006, 01:28 PM

I was gonna get a Honda again if I sold this car, but I"m not sure I can right now cause I will need a car to drive while building the Honda.

**Speedm0(\)key** · 03-15-2006, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Shawn

I was gonna get a Honda again if I sold this car, but I"m not sure I can right now cause I will need a car to drive while building the Honda.

well.. the basic bolt ons will require some way to keep the car from over boosting..., you CAN port the wastegate, but i wouldnt do it.. its better to keep boost controlled.. and accurately targeted as for the VF ihi turbos are really sensitive past their efficiency levels. an exhaust will probably add some kick to the car, and it will spool slightly quicker, but add a downpipe (even catted ones) and you will get boost creep like crazy.. ecu picks it up, and sets a early fuel cut and kills throttle temporarily, bad for your car.. and very annoying. you might have to spend about 2-3,000 on the car, and you'd be as fast as i am. if you're willing to spend that much go for it, if not.. keep it stock

Ecutek or CObb Reflash (18-19 Psi, with lower wastegate duty cycle maps to prevent over boost)
Intake/Downpipe (catless) /exhaust and you have yoruself a healthy 300awhp 300awtq (in that area) STi

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