ATTN: PMS Leader

[3.5altman]

^^^hey you started it fucknut!!!

[Maniaç]

fucknut my ass!!!! what are you gonna do if i did?

[3.5altman]

^^^break ur damn legs

[WickedIXMR]

^^^ more like kill himself!

[Tracy]

was it Rudy or Josh? Batlground SUCKS! they didn't tune that Evo to its MAX

what are you talking about?

[NiteMare]

so i guess this isn't gonna go down.... id never take my car to anyother shop but AAP or Speed or Sale. Ive heard of BatlGround "Tracy", 1k+ RWHP Supra not bad.. 8sec@168.. not bad... i still wouldn't have taken my car there

[Maniaç]

i have to agree with my cousin tracy..... and what do you mean " what are you talking about"

you can read.... yall didn't give that Evo all it needed to beat another Evo with a TBE/I/Cams/22psi

PS: i have a broken piston from an EVo that had all its shit done there and tuned but broke its motor racing an STi... your boy Will gave it to me for Xmas. haha

[dingo7]

BATTLE GROUND LIKES THE DICK!!!! TOPSPEED FO LIFE!!!!!! and SM i guess
Battleground does good work on their cars but customer cars not so much. Alex you tell me how many BG car come to our meets that win races and how many TS cars. i think those numbers will prove my point

[Tracy]

I didn't read the whole thread, so I'm not sure whose car you were speaking of...thus my question. There aren't any Evo's that have had ALL of their work done here from beginning to end. ALL of them have come from another shop first (mainly that other shop that Doug used to work for that closed down and took everyone's money and locked all of the cars inside the building. Can't remember the name at the moment) except for 1 and we didn't end up tuning it.

Just because you are young and started coming out to race this year when you turned 18 doesn't mean our customers cars haven't been whoopin' butt for years. 6 years to be exact. Just something to think about And to tell the truth, I'm not into the immature e-battle's you all like to have anymore. I don't feel the need to prove ourselves. We have been doing that for years. It used to be fun when I didn't have other things to do, but it's not so much anymore. When you get a little older, you may realize that there are people who don't post on IA or other forums and that don't street race their cars Like grown folks. But have fun without me.

[Tracy]

***Boost Solutions! That's it.

[dingo7]

humm young guy huh, Im 21 and ive seen the shit that BG has put out. A 35r evo getting beat buy a tbe/cam/22pound/flash evo is how do i put this . besides TS cars are faster at the end of the day. so are you done or do I have to go get will to deal with you and feed you more cheeseburgers?:idb:

I didn't read the whole thread, so I'm not sure whose car you were speaking of...thus my question. There aren't any Evo's that have had ALL of their work done here from beginning to end. ALL of them have come from another shop first (mainly that other shop that Doug used to work for that closed down and took everyone's money and locked all of the cars inside the building. Can't remember the name at the moment) except for 1 and we didn't end up tuning it.

Just because you are young and started coming out to race this year when you turned 18 doesn't mean our customers cars haven't been whoopin' butt for years. 6 years to be exact. Just something to think about And to tell the truth, I'm not into the immature e-battle's you all like to have anymore. I don't feel the need to prove ourselves. We have been doing that for years. It used to be fun when I didn't have other things to do, but it's not so much anymore. When you get a little older, you may realize that there are people who don't post on IA or other forums and that don't street race their cars Like grown folks. But have fun without me.

[Tracy]

humm young guy huh, Im 21 and ive seen the shit that BG has put out. A 35r evo getting beat buy a tbe/cam/22pound/flash evo is how do i put this . besides TS cars are faster at the end of the day. so are you done or do I have to go get will to deal with you and feed you more cheeseburgers?:idb:

Yay for you! Go get Will. He's better at e-thugging then you anyways. I'm already bored with you.

[Psycho]

^ I thought I smelled doo-doo in here

[Tracy]

O0o0o0o0o another grown 21 year old FTW!

[Tank]

Topspeed pshhhhh those morons cant install a simple turbo kit or a manual valve transmission correctly please dont let me get started on that horrible shop.

By the way shop bashing/sponsor bashing is against the rules of IA be careful before you end up banned

[dingo7]

Im not bashin BG ne more I just dont like Bitch tits up there. Psycho is right i smell something and it might be DOO-DOO

[Maniaç]

L0L @ Tracy.. hell naw
Luis we all know about BG.. not everyone does.. thats why everything we say seems like a bunch of blah blah blah... let it go
Thomas you're right.. bunch of doo doo for sure

Tank please we're not scared... well atleast i don't... if i wanted to.. ill keep this shit going. But lets face it, we're not gonna get anything out of it.
Ive said it before and ill say it again.

TopSpeed > BatlGround
SOG > BG
those are the only two shops that ill take my car.. not anyother place.

[ChAmP_CoUpE]

Shit i dont I cant complain about TOPSPEED... good customer service... NOT ASSHOLES like some other shops in there area... NO NAMES... But personally I agree with SM TOPSPEED FTMFW!!!!

[WickedIXMR]

Yes ill agree, topspeed has great customer service! But i havent been to any other shops in the area except for aap which i got a price quote twice as much from another shop but lets not get off topic here, bashing shops ftl!

[fight club]

Topspeed pshhhhh those morons cant install a simple turbo kit or a manual valve transmission correctly please dont let me get started on that horrible shop.

By the way shop bashing/sponsor bashing is against the rules of IA be careful before you end up banned

-ethug mode-

lets have less of this neons> sm wrx bullshit. chad refused to race after riding in my car, so that makes 2 wrx's faster. mine, which is gone, and wills.

also, in the spirit of club domination lets calculate something here.

wrecked sm cars- 2 in a year since ive been around
wrecked pms cars- 4-5 in a year since ive been around

so not only are they faster, we can drive better too.

and as for why didnt he call out brian. who would? stock turbo agianst a 35r. real hard race there. plus it was a bg tuned car and speedmonkey has already had one evo get its windshield busted by evos theyve touched, we dont need another.



and all the "super fast" cars of pms might want to be weary of any speedmonkey sti's this spring. specially ones with a license plate of "fghtclb"

[TIGERJC]

-ethug mode-

lets have less of this neons> sm wrx bullshit. chad refused to race after riding in my car, so that makes 2 wrx's faster. mine, which is gone, and wills.

also, in the spirit of club domination lets calculate something here.

wrecked sm cars- 2 in a year since ive been around
wrecked pms cars- 4-5 in a year since ive been around

so not only are they faster, we can drive better too.

and as for why didnt he call out brian. who would? stock turbo agianst a 35r. real hard race there. plus it was a bg tuned car and speedmonkey has already had one evo get its windshield busted by evos theyve touched, we dont need another.



and all the "super fast" cars of pms might want to be weary of any speedmonkey sti's this spring. specially ones with a license plate of "fghtclb"

Cocky drivers are the reason for half of our wrecks. The other wrecks were not pms members' fault

[fight club]

well one of ours was from a lady parking in the highway so yea lmao.

[Krazykouki]

Shit i dont I cant complain about TOPSPEED... good customer service... NOT ASSHOLES like some other shops in there area... NO NAMES... But personally I agree with SM TOPSPEED FTMFW!!!!

I have only seen with my 2 eyes one car come from Top Speed. From what I saw it was the most ghetto install I have ever seen. I cant make a judgement on that one car though.

I have seen BG run the Supra numerous times and everytime it went to run it broke something...

there again I cant make assumptions off of one car.

-ethug mode-

lets have less of this neons> sm wrx bullshit. chad refused to race after riding in my car, so that makes 2 wrx's faster. mine, which is gone, and wills.

also, in the spirit of club domination lets calculate something here.

wrecked sm cars- 2 in a year since ive been around
wrecked pms cars- 4-5 in a year since ive been around

so not only are they faster, we can drive better too.

and as for why didnt he call out brian. who would? stock turbo agianst a 35r. real hard race there. plus it was a bg tuned car and speedmonkey has already had one evo get its windshield busted by evos theyve touched, we dont need another.



and all the "super fast" cars of pms might want to be weary of any speedmonkey sti's this spring. specially ones with a license plate of "fghtclb"

Man FUCK YOU.

what do wrecks have to do with anything? How are you better than us? Whats makes you so special?

EDIT: Talking shit, playing around, etc..etc..comparing our team to your team based on driving skills and wrecks...just stfu...take it to the track. Im sorry but I find it offensive to see someone comparing us based on accidents. ESPECIALLY when my accident had nothing to do with me.

[Tank]

-ethug mode-

lets have less of this neons> sm wrx bullshit. chad refused to race after riding in my car, so that makes 2 wrx's faster. mine, which is gone, and wills.

also, in the spirit of club domination lets calculate something here.

wrecked sm cars- 2 in a year since ive been around
wrecked pms cars- 4-5 in a year since ive been around

so not only are they faster, we can drive better too.

and as for why didnt he call out brian. who would? stock turbo agianst a 35r. real hard race there. plus it was a bg tuned car and speedmonkey has already had one evo get its windshield busted by evos theyve touched, we dont need another.



and all the "super fast" cars of pms might want to be weary of any speedmonkey sti's this spring. specially ones with a license plate of "fghtclb"

i refuse to argue with idiots but are you not the same moron who flipped his honda element just to get a STI so in a word your a idiot in my book Topspeed does have great customer service however there mechanics are total dumbasses a shop should never allow a person not emplyed by them to work on shop cars nor should they hire a mechanic and place him as head mechanic when he doesnt have the know-how or skill to do his trade.

with that im out i dont waste space or energy arguing with morons oh and congradts on your STI glad the insurance is company could pay for what you couldnt afford.

[Sayajin]

-ethug mode-

lets have less of this neons> sm wrx bullshit. chad refused to race after riding in my car, so that makes 2 wrx's faster. mine, which is gone, and wills.

also, in the spirit of club domination lets calculate something here.

wrecked sm cars- 2 in a year since ive been around
wrecked pms cars- 4-5 in a year since ive been around

so not only are they faster, we can drive better too.

and as for why didnt he call out brian. who would? stock turbo agianst a 35r. real hard race there. plus it was a bg tuned car and speedmonkey has already had one evo get its windshield busted by evos theyve touched, we dont need another.



and all the "super fast" cars of pms might want to be weary of any speedmonkey sti's this spring. specially ones with a license plate of "fghtclb"

Well lemme give you a peice of correct info. For both you fightclub and you Tiger, one of the PMS members wrecks was due primarily to mechanical failure in the HICAS system, not primarily to an overconfident driver. Just figured might as well throw some facts in there.

As for the last part, I am one of those cars, and it would be my pleasure. I should also be ready in the spring and I will be happy to put you in your place.


-Sayajin

[TIGERJC]

Well lemme give you a peice of correct info. For both you fightclub and you Tiger, one of the PMS members wrecks was due primarily to mechanical failure in the HICAS system, not primarily to an overconfident driver. Just figured might as well throw some facts in there.

As for the last part, I am one of those cars, and it would be my pleasure. I should also be ready in the spring and I will be happy to put you in your place.


-Sayajin

so you are telling me when your HICAS SYSTEM DIES, you no longer have control of the car(if thats the case I would think they would have recalled that item). But didnt you drive the car the next day? Since you are a damn good driver you should have corrected the car, but it sounds to me it was more like oversteer than the car just losing control on its on. I don't think Nissan would slap on rear wheel steering feature on a 40k+ car that would cause a person to wreck.

[Sayajin]

The fact of the matter is I called out chad cuz his car actually works. Its kinda hard to call ne1 else from PMS out when all of their cars are down. Besides Sayajin You say evos are slo and josh and my cousin handed you your ass. Both were white evos. I guess Ill let the cars do the talkin on SAT.

SM>pms

Just saw this post as I wasnt following this thread.

One. I never said evos were slow. I came from an EVO and loved that shit. All I said to your homie was that if he was stock he would lose. And as a matter of fact he did. He beat me 1x and I beat him 2x. Screw off.

Also the reason I lost is becuase I dont run highway runs. Dont know how to do it properly, and I have NO problem saying that. I run digs. When I told this to your boy he decided he didint want to lose in a real race. Everyone on IA knows I dont do highway runs, cant even do them properly when I try. To me that is some bitch shit for hondas or people who are afraid to break shit. Why was he so terrified to run me from a dig then if he could hand me my ass?

-Sayajin

[Sayajin]

so you are telling me when your HICAS SYSTEM DIES, you no longer have control of the car(if thats the case I would think they would have recalled that item). But didnt you drive the car the next day? Since you are a damn good driver you should have corrected the car, but it sounds to me it was more like oversteer than the car just losing control on its on. I don't think Nissan would slap on rear wheel steering feature on a 40k+ car that would cause a person to wreck.

Well it appears thinking is not your strong suit. Read ANY of the GTR forums and most poeple hate HICAS for that exact reason. It causes wrecks. Why do you think people install HICAS lock bars?

Also I never said my HICAS died. I said malfunction. Let me give you a bit more info. What HICAS does is physically move your back wheels while you are in a corner. It is supposed to do so at a certain angle to help you come out of the corner faster. Often times what happens however, is the HICAS does not do its job properly, causing your back wheels to move before they should. This obviously causes wrecks. Feel free to do your research before you talk shit.

In my case however, as I was coming into the corner my malfunctioning HICAS caused my back wheels to twitch sending me sliding...


Like I said, its cool to talk shit. But know the facts first.


*edit*

Here let me help you out:

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/31...ht=Hicas+light

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/45...ear+end+wobble

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/for...pic=104400&hl=


Hell here is even one I posted a while back about my OWN problems with it:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/for...pic=132081&hl=


I never said that I was not hot in the corner... I just said that the vast majority of the accident was the fault of the HICAS. I am not saying I am faultless in any way. Just saying chances are it would not have happened without the mechanical aspect of it.


-Sayajin

[Vteckidd]

haha

[Krazykouki]

Well it appears thinking is not your strong suit. Read ANY of the GTR forums and most poeple hate HICAS for that exact reason. It causes wrecks. Why do you think people install HICAS lock bars?

Also I never said my HICAS died. I said malfunction. Let me give you a bit more info. What HICAS does is physically move your back wheels while you are in a corner. It is supposed to do so at a certain angle to help you come out of the corner faster. Often times what happens however, is the HICAS does not do its job properly, causing your back wheels to move before they should. This obviously causes wrecks. Feel free to do your research before you talk shit.

In my case however, as I was coming into the corner my malfunctioning HICAS caused my back wheels to twitch sending me sliding...


Like I said, its cool to talk shit. But know the facts first.


*edit*

Here let me help you out:

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/31...ht=Hicas+light

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/45...ear+end+wobble

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/for...pic=104400&hl=


Hell here is even one I posted a while back about my OWN problems with it:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/for...pic=132081&hl=


-Sayajin

I have never really had time to research it but do VR4 300GT's have the same issue..because I have noticed that when I enter a corner I feel it suddenly move and it scares the shit out of me...

[Sayajin]

I have never really had time to research it but do VR4 300GT's have the same issue..because I have noticed that when I enter a corner I feel it suddenly move and it scares the shit out of me...

Srry man, not sure. I dont know much about the VR4. The HICAS issue with the GTR is a well known fact to people in the community. I assume that the VR4 community would probably be the same way. Check some forums out.

But yea.. when your car suddenly decides to move itself in a path other then the one you dictate, its scary as shit.



-Sayajin

[Vteckidd]

I have only seen with my 2 eyes one car come from Top Speed. From what I saw it was the most ghetto install I have ever seen. I cant make a judgement on that one car though.

I have seen BG run the Supra numerous times and everytime it went to run it broke something...

there again I cant make assumptions off of one car.

I dont see too many TOPSPEED BUILT cars. i hear of cars tuned there, but i havent seen any built from the ground up. But im not in the EVO/STI business big time YET. so i just may not be looking in the right place.

As for BG supra, it made over 1k whp, and ran 8s when many of us didnt even street race out BOLT ON CARS. Race cars break, shit happens, FUCK CARS BREAK. nothing you can do about it.

anyone that thinks there is a car that makes 900-1000whp and doesnt grenade every once in awhile needs to think about building a car. hell ill even say 500-600whp on a 4 cylinder or 6 cylinder is not reliable.

when you run 8s, things get replaced before EVERY RACE, im sure Tracy can comment on that if she wants to. im sure dan lost 2 or 3 motors before he figured out what HE LIKED. no one builds an 8second supra and doesnt blow shit up.

Look at skunk2s NA race RSX. WORLD RECORD HOLDER and i know for a FACT they were replacing rod and main bearings every 3-5 PASSES. they lost several motors to oil pressure problems as well

[Krazykouki]

I dont see too many TOPSPEED BUILT cars. i hear of cars tuned there, but i havent seen any built from the ground up. But im not in the EVO/STI business big time YET. so i just may not be looking in the right place.

As for BG supra, it made over 1k whp, and ran 8s when many of us didnt even street race out BOLT ON CARS. Race cars break, shit happens, FUCK CARS BREAK. nothing you can do about it.

anyone that thinks there is a car that makes 900-1000whp and doesnt grenade every once in awhile needs to think about building a car. hell ill even say 500-600whp on a 4 cylinder or 6 cylinder is not reliable.

when you run 8s, things get replaced before EVERY RACE, im sure Tracy can comment on that if she wants to. im sure dan lost 2 or 3 motors before he figured out what HE LIKED. no one builds an 8second supra and doesnt blow shit up.

Look at skunk2s NA race RSX. WORLD RECORD HOLDER and i know for a FACT they were replacing rod and main bearings every 3-5 PASSES. they lost several motors to oil pressure problems as well

Thats why I cant make assumptions just off of one car. Now if they had 5 cars that where very similar doing all the same shit...I could make a judgement call. The same goes for Main Stream, Top Hat and all the other tuner shops around...you will always have bad apples. Good days and bad days.

[lightspeed]

<lightspeed opens door and peeks in>

Man FUCK YOU.

This sure got ugly... Its the two drama-king clubs going head-to-head again. What a surprise

Somewhat on-topic though... Can I get one-a-dem new-fangled HICAS thingies put on my cars? They sound pretty cool! Id love to have a device on my car that I can blame if I ever have an accident.
HICAS = Hey I Cant Accurately Steer

[Sayajin]

I see you have reading problems too ehh Lightspeed? lol.

read my first thread again. I specifically said I wasnt saying I didnt have any blame. I am just saying that HICAS was the contributing factor. Kinda like when you blow an engine running it hard, however had your fuel pump not have died it wouldnt have blown up? Know that I mean? Yea you were running the shit out of the thing, but it wouldnt have blown up if the fuel pump still worked!

btw its HICAS (High Capacity Actively Controlled Suspension).


-Sayajin

[Krazykouki]

<lightspeed opens door and peeks in>



This sure got ugly... Its the two drama-king clubs going head-to-head again. What a surprise

Somewhat on-topic though... Can I get one-a-dem new-fangled HICAS thingies put on my cars? They sound pretty cool! Id love to have a device on my car that I can blame if I ever have an accident.
HICAS = Hey I Cant Accurately Steer

so of someone basically made fun or compared to how much better he is to you by using an accident you had, you would sit there and say nothing?

[lightspeed]

I see you have reading problems too ehh Lightspeed? lol.

Yeah, 'riting and 'rithmatic have always been my weak points lol Luckily driving isnt, though.

btw its HICAS (High Capacity Actively Controlled Suspension)

To quote Sean from Tokyo Drift... "Congratulations...you can read the manual."

so of someone basically made fun or compared to how much better he is to you by using an accident you had, you would sit there and say nothing?

lol, no, by all means... bitch away! its good reading. I gave up reading back through the thread at page 8...so I ddnt see that he insulted anyone specifically.

[TIGERJC]

Yeah, 'riting and 'rithmatic have always been my weak points lol Luckily driving isnt, though.

To quote Sean from Tokyo Drift... "Congratulations...you can read the manual."


lol, no, by all means... bitch away! its good reading. I gave up reading back through the thread at page 8...so I ddnt see that he insulted anyone specifically.

ty lightspeed, I just got back home. I just can't believe we are on the same side on this one

[TIGERJC]

Well it appears thinking is not your strong suit. Read ANY of the GTR forums and most poeple hate HICAS for that exact reason. It causes wrecks. Why do you think people install HICAS lock bars?

Also I never said my HICAS died. I said malfunction. Let me give you a bit more info. What HICAS does is physically move your back wheels while you are in a corner. It is supposed to do so at a certain angle to help you come out of the corner faster. Often times what happens however, is the HICAS does not do its job properly, causing your back wheels to move before they should. This obviously causes wrecks. Feel free to do your research before you talk shit.

-Sayajin

Man you went into a turn too fast and u locked up the brakes and skidded taking out a few signs. HICAS had nothing to do with it, you just fucked up

[Sayajin]

Man you went into a turn too fast and u locked up the brakes and skidded taking out a few signs. HICAS had nothing to do with it, you just fucked up

Well that is the good thing about living in the USA. You are entitled to your own opinion, no matter how baseless it may be, Thats cool man. I really dont need for you to see it my way. I was merely stating the facts. You can choose to form whatever semi-cognitive thoughts you can from them. You are making a baseless assessment of what happened without any facts or evidence. You just want to believe what you want to and thats fine.

To Quote Jay

"A wise man once told me, dont argue with fools. People from a distance cant tell who is who."


-Sayajin