LISTEN TO THE FUEL PUMP IN THIS THING
I need it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr7rkMIjByk
Sorry guys... 1025HP M3... DEFINATELY Street car this time...
LISTEN TO THE FUEL PUMP IN THIS THING
I need it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr7rkMIjByk
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
yeah i remember seeing that bmw definitly sexy the thing i like is how clean those engine bays look but definitly nice
Yep thats a sweet car, are you trying to prove something about BMWs
damn.. and thats a daily driver
nopeOriginally Posted by Big Baller
but they are the ultimate driving machine...
i dont search or see anything else... so BMWs is all i find
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
LMAO Ultimate Driving Machine, nothing german will ever be the ultimate driving machine
ur obviously ignorant...
wow...
please explain
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
You are obviously a BMW snob, I like BMWs I think they are nice cars but as far as the ultimate driving machine they are nowhere even close.
They might be a very well rounded car but they arent the ultimate anything.
So many cars that do so much better.
again a broad comment with no factional based arguement...
still the ultima driving machine until proven otherwise...
hmmm when a new sports coupe comes out... what car does it get compared to?
M3
new sports sedan what do they compare it to
bmw 3 series
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
Tell me this why does the new M3 get its ass handed to it by cars that are half the price IE. EVO and STI
hmm the current m3 came out in 2001... BEFORE the evo and STI..
and it it 1 second slower around the track compared to the Evo and STI...
EVO and STI have AWD giving them an advantage already...
then u factor int hat the sti and evo are brand new... and the m3 is 6 yeasrs old... wait for new m3... then talk
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
1/2 price...
hmmm 30-35 for evo
45-50 for the m3...
yah 1/2 price
the m3 is better track car and performance car all around
im sorry...
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
Damn youre fucking stupid, I mean its almost painful to read youre post. I didnt know that anyone could be that blindly bias towards one brand.
What a fucking dumbass
hoooooollllyyyyyyyyyyy ssssshhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeiiiiiiiiaaaaaaaaaattt;
anyways back to your regular programmed bashing.
yup
im a dumbass...
funny how ive kept up with STIs and EVOs on the track... and i dont even have the new m3...
your the moron dude.. if u think the STI and EVO are better track cars than the M3 u seriously need some help...
barely anyone even races the STI and EVO on road courses... if they are sooo badass why arent they racing htem in speed world challenge or speed touring series?
and STI is getting owned in WRC by fucking citroen!!! and Mitsu is out for 2 years of the WRC...
god damn dude... im done with this thread because u just cant stand it that BMW is the ultimate driving machine
oh yah and my bmw isnt filled with plastic shit like those two fucking jap cars... cheap interiors... STI eats tires because of suspension issues YAH for POSITIVE CAMBER UP FRONT
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
lol
Youre Mad
I win
ok sweet
back to thread.. that bmw is sick
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
Very nice clean install. Props.
Nice car.
If you can run a faster time than me at the next track day then I will pay for youre entry fee.
Matt
my next event will prolly be march drivers school at Road Atlanta with BMWCCA... this years track even fund has almost been sucked dry...
so unless something else comes up... an IA little talledega or something else...
we shall see
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
im with matt...id rather have a Mercedes or an Audi if i had to have a german car. And by no means is an BMW the Ultimate driving machine haha. its a nice car man, but get over yourself lol
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u obviously dont research or know much about german cars...
audis are a wiring nightmare
and mercedes spend more time in the shop than on the road
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
nice
HAHA you obviously dont watch much of the DTM touring cars in germany...AUDI is the way to go...and mercedes has been giving BMW a run for its money ever since the 190E was raping the e30's back in the day...get off your damn high horse and grow up
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what does wiring and shop time have to do with the ultimate driving experience
Have a Nice Day
Nice vid and props to a well tuned vehicle!
Comparisons are a pretty weak way to support an argument. I mean, when the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 came out, they compared it's handling to that of a Miata.
Don't get me wrong, I loved BMW until the new body styles came out and tarnished the brand. I would love to own an M3 and I think it's a very well balanced machine. Yes, I find it to be a great performer in all areas, but it doesn't really accel superiorly in any area in general. Just my.
Nice, Id hit itDidnt hear the fuel pump though...maybe it was the dyno roller spinning.
On a track, perhaps slightly. On the street, in a straight line, your sadly mistaken son. The STi gets WALKED by the new M3, and the E36 (95-99) pulls away from one over 100-120-ish. Kinda depends on how good of a launch both drivers get, or if it's a highway drag, ya know, that AWD is a killer for the M3, but by 100 it's definitely reeling the STi in, and normally passing it by 120.
Eww. You couldn't pay me to drive ANYTHING built by VW/Audi. And although a merc is a nice car, rarely has there ever been a mercedes that does EVERYTHING a BMW does as well or better. Better mild mannered street car, perhaps, but definitely not better on the track, or with very spirited driving. Hell, you can barely even get many Mercedes with stick's anymore. Very rarely does MB build anything that can beat a matching BMW.
It's hard to have the ultimate driving experience if you can't drive it.
this shows that u definately dont know WHAT THE FUCK u are talking bout... specially motorsport historyHAHA you obviously dont watch much of the DTM touring cars in germany...AUDI is the way to go...and mercedes has been giving BMW a run for its money ever since the 190E was raping the e30's back in the day...get off your damn high horse and grow up
the e30 is the winniest chassis in motorsport history...
haahhaah nice try though
im not on a high horse but if u think mercedes and audi builds a better track car ur insane
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
M3 sucks balls! I drag their ass down the road all the time.
...it is amusing to wait for them to catch up and get the "snob" look they all love to give after getting their ass handed to them by the Evo.
I don't even want to mention what I would do to it on a road course.
Maybe you need to experience more cars before making such a bias statement.
M3s are nice but I'll stick with the GT3 as my ultimate driving machine.
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wow that was amazing , the car looked so fucking stock, even retained the dorky wheels
http://money.cnn.com/2004/11/08/pf/a...o_reliability/
http://www.reflector.com/money/conte...41111cars.html
http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.as...tentid=4023544
Take your pick of the links, they all pretty much say the same thing, Euros are trash and if they Are daily driven its not for too long......
Yeah it might just be quick, but it will quickly break as well.
**not meant to step on toes, just summarizing what the people who get payed professionally to rate cars** so if you have a euro.... im sorry
99 LS teg/
...i just creamed my pants
Val RIP
I could care less what people who prefessionally rate cars say. I know from personal experience. Up untill about 2000, Euro's, with good maintenence, will last as long as japanese cars. As fara s the 2000+ models, IDK, I'm still holding my tongue, as son of the newst BMW's, Benzes, and VA/Audi products have thrown more useless electronic gizmo's that ever into their cars ready to break, so, I'm not sure what to think yet. Sorry, but I'll take another 250k mile BMW or MB to drive cross country any day over any 205k+ Jap or american car.
I can take this arguement either way, the Raceworks Del Sol(s) eat up M3's on the track, but does it have the feel and styling of the bimmer...not even close.
As for being the ultimate driving machine, it's not just the m3 or m5 but each and every bmw made was built with both handling and comfort in mind. The only other company you can compare it to is Porsche but they are no where near as well rounded...4 doors, 2 doors, convertibles, and SUV's...w/ a large price range.
Nearly every new sports car/sports sedan is STILL compared to an M3/M5, that must tell you something. If I had the cash to build up an M3 and have an M5 for a daily both would be in my garage. I'm not even going to talk about the M3 GTR.
For those that doubt BMW, what models have you driven?
My mom has the X3 with the 2.5...not the best but ya it comfortable. I got beat by and RX330. I cried. But I love BMWs. Especially the X5 with the 4.4.
Whomever is talking about reliability of German cars obviously hasn't daily driven one for very long. What BMW tops ANY reliability report done by anyone remotely independent? The 3 series has always been the benchmark because it was good all around, but in recent years that gap has been exponentially shortened by several cars that are not only less expensive but far more reliable too. It won't be long before the 3 series will drop down to 2nd place. As a matter of fact in this month's Motor Trend they pitted the Infiniti G35 against it and the Infiniti stomped the 3 series in just about every category including acceleration, braking, value, fit and finish, etc. The only category it didn't win was the slalom and that was only marginally. I still don't see how they gave the BMW the nod for first place after getting beat in just about every category.........but they did. But even BMW loving journalist all agree that it's a matter of time unless BMW pulls a rabbit out of a hat soon.
The M3 and the M5 are indeed very nice. Their powerplants and suspensions are indeed race pedigreed. I'd drive the wheels off an M5 in a heartbeat, no doubt. As far as the "ultimate" driving machine......there are indeed others out there, albeit far more expensive, that certainly would give that title a very good claim as well. They are fun to drive, but their reliability is questionable IMO.
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