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    Default i need a little legal advice

    before i begin i'll repeat what i have said here before, i have a high respect for law enforcement and what they put on the line daily in order to protect and serve...i understand the do the crime, serve the time principal. i'm not trying to bash cops, just trying to figure out if i should even be concerned at this point

    get ready for a couple run on sentances, spelling errors and such...i'm just trying get the whole story across quickly

    ok, so thursday night around midnight i was pulled over for a 'you looked like you were doing about 65' (posted 45, going 45-50) and 'failure to maintain lane' ...upon the stop i willingly turned over a VERY VERY VERY small amount of a controlled substance (1 stem, less than a gram of shake and bowl of ashes). i allowed a complete search of my vehicle which turned up nothing else but some sealed beer cans in the black plastic bag they came in. i'm sure the police ran my record because as soon as the bag was pulled out of the car another cop (there were 4 total) came over and picked it up and sarcasticly said "what, they don't even give you guys ziplocks anymore" i told him the truth and let him no that i was just a stoner college student and not a drug dealer. he took my girl aside and began questioning her while another officer took me to the back of his car and began talking to me...all and all this is how the conversation went, and this is what i have the questions about:

    he asks me where i get my drugs, how much i get at a time, who i place my orders with (all this with less than a gram) he trys to tell me i'm a dealer again, then he starts trying to cut a deal...he said that if i could 'get some clown to show up at some gas station with some weed' he could give me the minumum charges, i tell him (truthfully) i can't get anything around here, i drove to cobb to get my last bit and that was over a month ago, i explained that i just finished school and moved back home and that i really just didn't know anyone around here....he points to my car and starts saying how it should be towed, how he can write me 20 tickets for all these BS things about it. then he tells me that i'm buying from my family and he can understand why i don't want to rat them out,(this is kinda cold but) i offered him a number of a friend that passed away and said that he could call him but i didn't want any part in it, he told me he didn't want the number, he wanted some drugs...
    so we hit rock bottom there...then it got kinda weird...i have no clue why, but he seemed to think i could get him a gun, he said 'you get me a gun off the streets and i can take care of you'...i told him i'd never even held a gun before and that i'm just college kid, he pointed at the car again and asked me if i really wanted to go to jail. i told him 'no, of course not, but i'm not going to lie to you either'...i then said 'so all i need to do is buy you a dirty gun by saturday?'...he said "i can't tell you to go buy a gun, but say for example you are walking in the park and you find one, you could come turn it into me and i could just give you the minumum charges here"
    we kinda went back and fourth on the drug bust and gun thing for awhile, not really getting anywhere...then he said "ok, here's my card, this is my cell phone number, i'm gonna let your girl get you home but if you can get me something by saturday then we're gonna take care of you, blahblahblah, i can't give you a DUI because i'm letting you go but if i don't hear from you by sat then i'm gonna turn in all of this and you'll have warrants out for you"

    i said 'thanks for giving me a chance sir' and went to my car and rode home...i called him today, and told him i was still working on everything and trying my best but that i had nothing so far, he said he was in a meeting and that he'd call me back....

    ...that brings me to now.


    what should i do?? what did he do with the pot, is it in his car, did he go smoke it, haha? does he really have a case on me after 30+ hours, i never signed any paperwork at anytime.
    i really don't know anyone to turn in in gwinnett for drugs, i have no idea where to get a dirty gun...nor to i really care too much about going out and seeking either

    please no guessing, i'm looking for some answers, i've been guessing and thinking all day

    and yeah, i shouldn't have been driving around lawrenceville at midnight with crap like that in my car but i did and go figure...

    my initial thoughts were that he didn't really have much against me other than parafanillia(sp) and that he was kinda counting on me to come through with something else big for him...

    i've blabed enough, you get the idea but i can fill in details if you guys that care to help have any questions...someones gotta know how the due process works with all of this

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    Inproper procedure FTW!!(if thats the whole story)


    i really dont think there is any evidence that he pulled you over. and if all that shit was true, either you would have been arrested or charged, neither of which happened and he tried to blackmail you pretty much. sounds like a crooked ass cop. im sure if you brought that up to the poilice, they would let you off. hows he going to prove its your pot?
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    first off - when you get question like that by a cop, always stfu until you have a lawyer by your side. no he doesn't have a case against you. I will talk to my cop friends about this, but you have nothing to worry about. He can't do shit after the fact.

    Don't smoke weed in your car dumbass, you will be alright

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    i don't believe he has a case....and then again you could always go to court for entrapment. Especially since he has no case....could say that he was sweet talkin you into going and buying more drugs or doing more illegal things so he could probably bust you and get a promotion. and how the hell did it go from "i'm pulling u over for supposed speeding and illegal lane change" to "holy fuck u have drugs"????? how did he find out??? dude i got pulled over with abuot 4oz under my ass. And the guy accused me of disrupting/holding up traffic, but he didn't admit this until he ran ,me through loops and hoola hoops and shit with questions trying to catch me in a lie and get me outta the car. (If i had gotten up i woulda been charged with some heavy shit). So after about 35min of talking and going back and forth and him realizing i knew my rights and shit he got frustrated and just left. I didn't sign shit and didn't get out...and me and my friend went home at the end of the day with about $300 after sellin all of it.

    anywayz back to ur shit hole of a situation...let it sit for a while. Don't do anything...and don't give away dead friends fone numbrs....dats real cold shit.

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    b18hatch-well i'm sure my prints were on my case that had my weed and my bowl in it, and he's got the dash video to show he pulled me over...plus if it came down to court it'd be 4 officers against 2 collage aged civilians

    tigerjc-lemme know what your cop friend says, PM me if you want...and yeah, it was dumb but we all do dumb things, its just the smart ones who don't go with the flow who can sometimes actually 'get away' with it


    one more thing...the guy who talked with me about the deal was a corpral and his card said 'drug and gang task force'...not sure if that gives him any extra rights to cut deals and such or not.

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    yeah man...why the fuck would you snitch on someone because YOU fucked up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck
    b18hatch-well i'm sure my prints were on my case that had my weed and my bowl in it, and he's got the dash video to show he pulled me over...plus if it came down to court it'd be 4 officers against 2 collage aged civilians

    tigerjc-lemme know what your cop friend says, PM me if you want...and yeah, it was dumb but we all do dumb things, its just the smart ones who don't go with the flow who can sometimes actually 'get away' with it


    one more thing...the guy who talked with me about the deal was a corpral and his card said 'drug and gang task force'...not sure if that gives him any extra rights to cut deals and such or not.

    only people that can offer you a deal is the court pressing the charges....they wont test you for prints over a fucking gram. dash video? so it shows him letting you go and records his voice telling you all this?? case is against his ass then
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    b18bang- he said i was crossing the lines and all and then started pushing me about 'whens the last time you smoked' (probably from looking at my record...i have a prior possession of a controlled substance conviction from 12/04)...i knew failure to maintain lane was justification for a search, i didn't want to waste my time waiting for a K9 to come find it so i just gave it up to him hoping for the best.

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    Why did you give him the bag first off? Dude, atleast put it under the seat or somethin'.... Honesty is only the best policy when it comes to guns, dont want them finding a concealed weapon on you... but fuck that, if I get pulled over and I got some drugs on me, last thing I'm gonna do is give it to him for no reason what so ever... Good luck, $20 says he's gonna be askin' you for head by the end of the week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b18hatch
    yeah man...why the fuck would you snitch on someone because YOU fucked up?
    who did i even come close to snitching on man??? dead friends like in the grave dead, not just dead to me...i'm better than that, and his voicemail still worked...it was wrong but it could have gotten me out of there and kept anyone else out of trouble too

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    Quote Originally Posted by HyPer50
    Why did you give him the bag first off? Dude, atleast put it under the seat or somethin'.... Honesty is only the best policy when it comes to guns, dont want them finding a concealed weapon on you... but fuck that, if I get pulled over and I got some drugs on me, last thing I'm gonna do is give it to him for no reason what so ever... Good luck, $20 says he's gonna be askin' you for head by the end of the week.
    he had the right to search the car because of the 'failure to maintain lane' claim...i didn't want to waste my time.

    and nah, but thanks for $20

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    If he didn't give you a ticket, then there is no problem. LoL, he's probably waiting for you to give him a dirty gun and then pin you with a felony. Don't call him back, you're fine. If you give him a dirty gun, they can charge you for every crime that ballistics can match the gun to. Then you're really fucked. If you give him a gun, start doin yoga or some thing cuz that ass hole is gonna need sum stretching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck
    he had the right to search the car because of the 'failure to maintain lane' claim...i didn't want to waste my time.

    and nah, but thanks for $20
    Just cause they have the "right" to search doesn't mean they will. But ya, the honesty is the best policy clearly worked in this situation lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.P.U Subaru
    If he didn't give you a ticket, then there is no problem. LoL, he's probably waiting for you to give him a dirty gun and then pin you with a felony. Don't call him back, you're fine. If you give him a dirty gun, they can charge you for every crime that ballistics can match the gun to. Then you're really fucked. If you give him a gun, start doin yoga or some thing cuz that ass hole is gonna need sum stretching.
    well i already called him and said i had nothing so far and said that i was still working on everything for him...
    i thought about and gun thing and this is all i could come up with; say i am a law abiding citizen walking down the road and i see a gun just laying there...what do i do then, not just pick it up and put it in a trash can, not leave it there where some kid could find it...
    wouldn't i at least pick it up out of the street and call the police?? the thing that worries me is the timing of the whole thing, i'm worried that if i get him a gun he's gonna know that i know someone who has access, i'd rather stick with being a 'stupid college kid' really...i didn't really like the gun idea from the start but it sure as hell beat cuffs as long as i didn't have to bring someone undeserving down with me, i'd never do that in a million years, kahrma(sp) is just too much of a bitch to push my luck like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by HyPer50
    Just cause they have the "right" to search doesn't mean they will. But ya, the honesty is the best policy clearly worked in this situation lol.
    that's why prior convictions, no matter how prior, always come back to bite you in the ass...if this had been my first run-in with this type of situation then i could have talked my way into a 'goodnight officer', and driven myself on home with a ticket for being 22 and my liscence saying i'm under 21 still.

    i'm good, but i know what can work against me

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck
    well i already called him and said i had nothing so far and said that i was still working on everything for him...
    i thought about and gun thing and this is all i could come up with; say i am a law abiding citizen walking down the road and i see a gun just laying there...what do i do then, not just pick it up and put it in a trash can, not leave it there where some kid could find it...
    wouldn't i at least pick it up out of the street and call the police?? the thing that worries me is the timing of the whole thing, i'm worried that if i get him a gun he's gonna know that i know someone who has access, i'd rather stick with being a 'stupid college kid' really...i didn't really like the gun idea from the start but it sure as hell beat cuffs as long as i didn't have to bring someone undeserving down with me, i'd never do that in a million years, kahrma(sp) is just too much of a bitch to push my luck like that
    Oh my god dude, you go to college and you are still that stupid?! I don't think you understand what I posted. If you bring him a gun, YOU WILL BE FUCKED. You will go to jail for a long time. Dude, he didn't write you a ticket. You are fine. No ticket. No court. No charges. I don't think I can make it any clearer. DON'T CALL HIM EVER AGAIN!!!!

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    I definatly wouldn't try and get my hands on a unregistered gun... I'd talk with his superiors tho. Fuck that stuff... If he's gonna give you a ticket, then just give ya a ticket and cut the bribe bs games out.
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    No, if he didn't write him a ticket at the time of incident. He can't write him one later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck
    well i already called him and said i had nothing so far and said that i was still working on everything for him...
    i thought about and gun thing and this is all i could come up with; say i am a law abiding citizen walking down the road and i see a gun just laying there...what do i do then, not just pick it up and put it in a trash can, not leave it there where some kid could find it...
    wouldn't i at least pick it up out of the street and call the police?? the thing that worries me is the timing of the whole thing, i'm worried that if i get him a gun he's gonna know that i know someone who has access, i'd rather stick with being a 'stupid college kid' really...i didn't really like the gun idea from the start but it sure as hell beat cuffs as long as i didn't have to bring someone undeserving down with me, i'd never do that in a million years, kahrma(sp) is just too much of a bitch to push my luck like that
    jesus man, you have no common sense and/or street smarts. My cop friend told me you have nothing to worry about.
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    Default CHUCK CHUCK...

    One of my close homeboy's is a police officer. Let me call him and find out some things for you. I wil PM you. Hold Your Head Up. You will be alright mang.

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    Holy shit monkeys this is crazy.

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    yeah dude, you're straight. dont worry about it. but as subaru buddy said, do NOT call him under ANY circumstances.

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    DO NOT WANT!!!!

    rofl naw but don't call...

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    Do NOT call him back. He will forget about you. All he was trying to do was work his way up the chain. You had nothing (as far as he is concerned), but if he can get you to score a bag, then they can bust that guy. Then do the same thing to him, bust his supplier, and so on. Before you know it they're busting some house with 400LBs of weed.

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    I'm really not sure if talking to his supervisor will achieve anything...or anything you would want anyways. I would wait until anything becomes of his threat to put a warrant out on you then do it. Right now you're better off just laying low and letting it ride.

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    well if he didnt write you up im sure you have nothing to worry about ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck
    well i already called him and said i had nothing so far and said that i was still working on everything for him...
    i thought about and gun thing and this is all i could come up with; say i am a law abiding citizen walking down the road and i see a gun just laying there...what do i do then, not just pick it up and put it in a trash can, not leave it there where some kid could find it...
    wouldn't i at least pick it up out of the street and call the police?? the thing that worries me is the timing of the whole thing, i'm worried that if i get him a gun he's gonna know that i know someone who has access, i'd rather stick with being a 'stupid college kid' really...i didn't really like the gun idea from the start but it sure as hell beat cuffs as long as i didn't have to bring someone undeserving down with me, i'd never do that in a million years, kahrma(sp) is just too much of a bitch to push my luck like that
    what you need to do, is take this shit up the the DA office, and tell them about the situation.

    Honesdtly if he didnt arrest you then for drug charges, how can he do it today? They have to arrest you then, or no case...again like someone posted "how can they know for sure its your weed?"

    Honestly i wouldnt even tlaalk to him, maybe try and go to the court appointed attorneys office, and ask them some questions, but you seriously need to get this to an attorney, or get your parents involved....
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    dont call him. if he calls you, tell him to EAD!! hes got no case against you. DEFINATELY dont come up with any gun or anything. that fucker is probably high right now off your dollar.

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    tell him to suck a dick ..
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    i say you just buy your cheapo 380 from your local gun shop 100-150 bux. And just have the serials grinded off , tell him its what you bought from some random street vendor, make up a description etc... 100 bux well spent eh? That is if you're worried about it..

    I'm sure he's just pulling your balls, your dumb ass is all paranoid over a small amount of green... Cops even let people away in that situation, he's just fuckin with you. I dont think he can even do shit now, since he let you go... that warrant shit soudns like BS...

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    before i post i would just like to say this and get it out of the way....

    Fuck the police, fuck the police fuck em




    Chuck you called me, looking for advice and i told you from the get go..that it was sketchy man, im pretty sure if you bring the cop a gun he will ask you where you got it from and this and that and it will turn into something big..he will run fingerprints on the gun and check serial numbers and all that good shit...hes a fuckin pig, you know how pigs think man....

    If you had less than a gram of weed in your car go ahead and take the ticket or the offense...anything under an ounce of weed is a Misdameanor anything over a OUNCE is a felony and alot of times the weed charge can get thrown out in court if you use your first offense but i wouldnt even use it for a gram of weed. Thats nothing.....

    Cops will always try to get you to snitch and rat other people out because thats what they do, fuckin pigs.....Just keep your mouth shut when they ask you this shit, or tell them you get your weed from some homeless man in atlanta....

    But yeah man good luck on the situation, FUCK THE SYSTEM

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    yeah, so i guess the question now is where can i go to check to see if i have any warrants??? i just wanna be sure before i get back out in my car, it's not hard to miss/forget

    and mark, yeah after i talked to you it all seemed a little too sketch...but yeah, not a first offence

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck
    yeah, so i guess the question now is where can i go to check to see if i have any warrants??? i just wanna be sure before i get back out in my car, it's not hard to miss/forget

    and mark, yeah after i talked to you it all seemed a little too sketch...but yeah, not a first offence
    You could always do what I did... Bring your best running shoe's and go up to the police station and just ask haha... if they say yes, sprint for the door lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyPer50
    You could always do what I did... Bring your best running shoe's and go up to the police station and just ask haha... if they say yes, sprint for the door lmao.
    something tells me that wouldn't be a great idea...haha, i'm about 100 cartons of ciggs too late for that one.

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    HAHAAHHA thats why smoking is bad for you...

    #33: AMEN!

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    That sucks, Chucks. You shoulda called him from a blocked number. haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d-ninja
    HAHAAHHA thats why smoking is bad for you...

    #33: AMEN!
    acutally smoking weed has more positive effects than negative. It all depends on the person

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    wow....stfu. on average....smoking is bad. i gained like 1.6 seconds on my 100m and like 4 seconds on my 110m runs

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