$500,$600!!!!
Damn expensive!
I was thinking about getting one but at that price I don't think will.......
http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/08/tech...cing/index.htm
Ps3
$500,$600!!!!
Damn expensive!
I was thinking about getting one but at that price I don't think will.......
http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/08/tech...cing/index.htm
ill pay it....gladly more than xbox 360
HAHHA well look like Sony finally done with the gaming industry. With that price and its not as strong as the 360, then with Nintendo's Revolution coming out with a very small price tag, and still has alot of kick ass games, Sony's pretty much just shot itself in the ass!
it will change real quick. I don't think there done
how has it shot itself in the ass? they extended the release date like 2 times so that they could make sure that they could get all the bugs out of the systems. not to mention the graphics are supposed to be like a HELL of a lot better then the 360 so in my opinion it will probably be worth every penny, and besides i bet the price will come down like a hundred or 2 before release date. but by no means in my opinion are they done with it
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^^ if they come down on the price any more they wont gain any net profit at all. They're actually expecting to loose alot of money and only expect to start gaining maybe 3 years after its release or something like that
btw - the Nintendo Revoluion is actually called the Wii lol
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Okay...believe what you want, since you seem to like the PS over Xbox as is....
PLAYSTATION 3
CPU: Cell Processor
PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
Total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS
GPU: RSX @550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
Sound:
Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-based processing)
Memory:
256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz
System Bandwidth:
Main RAM -- 25.6GB/s
VRAM -- 22.4GB/s
RSX -- 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB -- 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)
System Floating Point Performance:
2 TFLOPS
Storage:
Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1
I/O
USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1
Communication:
Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
Controller:
Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB 2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)
AV Output
Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1
Disc Media:
CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE
XBOX 360
Хboх 360 System Performance - Draft
Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU 3 symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
2 hardware threads per core; 6 hardware threads total
1 VMX-128 vector unit per core; 3 total
128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
1 MB L2 cache
CPU Game Math Performance 9 billion dot product operations per second
Custom ATI Graphics Processor 500 MHz
10 MB embedded DRAM
48-way parallel floating-point dynamically-scheduled shader pipelines
Unified shader architecture
Polygon Performance 500 million triangles per second
Pixel Fill Rate 16 gigasamples per second fillrate using 4X MSAA
Shader Performance 48 billion shader operations per second
Memory 512 MB GDDR3 RAM
700 MHz DDR
Unified memory architecture
Memory Bandwidth 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
21.6 GB/s front-side bus
Overall System Floating-Point Performance 1 TFLOP
Storage Detachable and upgradeable 20 GB hard drive
12X dual-layer DVD-ROM
Memory unit support starting at 64 MB
I/O Support for up to 4 wireless game controllers
3 USB 2.0 ports
2 memory unit slots
Optimized for Online Instant, out-of-the-box access to Xbox Live features, including Xbox Live Marketplace for downloadable content, Gamer Profile for digital identity and voice chat to talk to friends while playing games, watching movies or listening to music
Built in Ethernet Port
Wi-Fi Ready: 802.11 A, B and G
Video Camera Ready
Digital Media Support Support for DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 CD, JPEG Photo CD
Stream media from portable music devices, digital cameras, Windows XP PCs
Rip music to Xbox 360 hard drive
Custom playlists in every game
Windows Media Center Extender built in
Interactive, full screen 3D visualizers
HD Game Support All games supported at 16:9, 720p and 1080i, anti-aliasing
Standard definition and high definition video output supported
Audio Multichannel surround sound output
Supports 48 KHz 16-bit audio
320 independent decompression channels
32-bit audio processing
Over 256 audio channels
System Orientation Stands vertically or horizontally
Customizable Face Plates Interchangeable to personalize the console
It's 3:30 pm on Friday, May 20, the last day of E3. The fine PR folks from Microsoft, who invited us to their headquarters a week before E3 to show us their system, their specs, and the grand design behind their powerful new Xbox 360, have just sent us an urgent notice to update our specs with new information. Earlier in the day, we were sent a comparative analysis of the Xbox 360's power vs. the PlayStation 3's power.
We decided to put this Microsoft-provided information up undigested. Thus, enclosed is a Microsoft-made comparitive analysis. We have not altered, added, or tinkered with the data. We have not interpreted the specs. We have cut and pasted this information from the email into our site and formatted it. Make of it what you will, but be clear we know Microsoft has clearly slanted this info, and we're not endorsing it, just printing their version. There is a difference.
XBOX 360 / PLAYSTATION 3 PERFORMANCE COMPARISON
SUMMARY
Now that the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 specifications have been announced, it is possible to do a real world performance comparison of the two systems.
There are three critical performance aspects of a console:
Central Processing Unit (CPU) performance.
The Xbox 360 CPU architecture has three times the general purpose processing power of the Cell.
Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) performance
The Xbox 360 GPU design is more flexible and it has more processing power than the PS3 GPU.
Memory System Bandwidth
The memory system bandwidth in Xbox 360 exceeds the PS3's by five times.
The Xbox 360's CPU has more general purpose processing power because it has three general purpose cores, and Cell has just one.
Cell's claimed advantage is on streaming floating point work which is done on its seven DSP processors.
The Xbox 360 GPU has more processing power than the PS3's. In addition, its innovated features contribute to overall rendering performance.
Xbox 360 has 278.4 GB/s of memory system bandwidth. The PS3 has less than one-fifth of Xbox 360's (48 GB/s) of total memory system bandwidth.
CONCLUSION
When you break down the numbers, Xbox 360 has provably more performance than PS3. Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance. The truth is that both systems pack a lot of power for high definition games and entertainment.
However, hardware performance, while important, is only a third of the puzzle. Xbox 360 is a fusion of hardware, software and services. Without the software and services to power it, even the most powerful hardware becomes inconsequential. Xbox 360 games—by leveraging cutting-edge hardware, software, and services—will outperform the PlayStation 3.
Now in my opinion its Sony and they wont drop the price that much becuase they dont want to wait for profits, so odds are they are done!!!!! becuase not manye are going to pay 400 or 500 for a base system!
Ps2 wooped Xbox's ass in sales before and it was way less powerful also.
There's more to it than the numbers.
I'll be buying the PS3.
It'll come down to the games. More importantly the exclusive titles for each system. As it stands, Xbox 360 has ZERO games worth playing that are ONLY on the Xbox 360. Every other game on that console can be found on PC or elswhere. While graphics are important, I value gameplay above all else. The Wii looks to deliver, as always with Nintendo, in spades. I'll be buying a PS3 for MGS4 and Gran Tourismo. I'm not touching an Xbox until I'm confident it won't burn my house down.
What are these exclusive titles that you speak of that make the PS2 so great that you cant buy for the XBOX or PC? Nintendo sux too, they havent had ANYTHING worth buying since the N64, handhelds included.Originally Posted by Xan
Gran Tourismo and Metal Gear 4 will be PS3 exclusives. I'll buy a PS3 for these 2 games alone because I love both of them. I never said that the PS3 was going to be "great" as you put it. Only time will tell. I may buy a 360, but I am going to wait for Gears of War and Cold Planet or whatever it's called before I make that decision. Simply put, I used to work at a videogame store and frequent them often. 2 out of every 3 360's they sold were returned for defects and all 3 display 360's they set out fried within 2 days. The system is shit. Nintendo has their target audience, which is kids, and they know how to reach them. The Wii will be the next step in interactive gaming and it will sell out. It may not have the best graphics, but it will have the funnest games. The new DS Lite is loads of fun IMO. It may have N64 graphics, but the games are fun.
Answer this. What games for the 360 can you NOT find elsewhere?
gee whiz only the first set of 360 where returned for that problem, I havent had any problems with mine. I will get a ps3 but it is only for 4 games. Would rather keep the 360
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The design is getting better, but they are still having problems with power supplies and hard-drives crapping out. Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against the 360. The system has loads of potential even though none of it has been harnessed yet(The online capabilities are phenomenal though). Gears of war is the only drop-dead gorgeous next-gen experience(Even though it's just gonna be another classic go here kill shit go there kill shit Cliffy experience) in store for the 360 and we've been waiting on it for 2 years. It's the people saying that the 360 whoops the PS3's ass and that the PS3 sucks donkey balls when the system hasn't even appeared hands-on that pisses me off. I guess everyone's entitled to their opinions though. I'll buy a Wii before I buy any of them.
xbox360>all.....The original xbox was ten times the system that the ps2 was. when it comes to games its quality not quantity. I had a ps2 simply for gran turismo but every other game I bought was for my xbox, the graphics are better and the gameplay is better, the reason it sold more is because people were afraid to invest in a new system that was just getting started or because everyone already had a ps2 and werent fortunate enough to be able to buy both. I bought the xbox360 the day it came out and its amazing. As far as exclusive titles, microsoft is currently developing alot of new ones to counter the exclusives that the ps2 has, which arent many now that final fantasy and grand theft auto are available for the xbox and xbox360.
I will buy the PS3 with no regrets. and i don't expect Sony going anywhere but up in the near future.
From all of my reading and general knowledge of the gaming marketplace, I think that Nintendo will make the greatest impact in this market. W/ the Wii, they are marketing it to everyone, especially to households. If it's something that everyone can use and enjoy, then it'll have widespread success. Then I think the 360 will come into 2nd place. Unfortunately the PS3 will kill sony. They are already having problems and terrible reviews for their Blu-Ray technology. If sony stayed w/ the DVD w/ the PS3, they would be a formidable competition, but instead their are overran w/ high costs and terrible performance.
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Forza Motorsport, Halo and Gears of war will be coming soon, also a title coming out really soon to rival Grand Theft Auto and looks to be a much better and more in depth game.
cant wait....
i'm buying a ps3
I like the convienence of having both so Ill get one to go with my 360 that I already have.
Isn't sony just shipping 200,000 the first year? Thats around 4,000 per state.
PS3 is going to bomb... price + time frame + software + competitive hardware...
Nintendo is launching its new system which by far has a more superior controller setup (which sony stole)... it will not only be cheaper but nintendo has always had a long list of classics that are propriatary to nintendo. You will be able to download all of the classics to your new Wii system.
Xbox is awaiting to launch both Halo3 and Forza 2 which are two of the strongest titles for Xbox; all along w/ dropping the price of the console. It has already taken a nice strong hold of the current buying market and i wouldn't expect them to stop. Anyone who can publicly announce they are loosing a billion a year and have no problem doing so is going to be tuff to beat. Microsoft isn't going for 2nd place.
Over all i think PS3 will be a good console but i think w/ them it is too little too late. I will enjoy my 360 and the new Wii once its launched. With most of the major titles selling on both platforms paying extra for a PS3 is just dumb.
SUPER SMASH BROTHERS AND GOLDENEYE FTMFW!!!!!!PS3 is going to bomb... price + time frame + software + competitive hardware...
Nintendo is launching its new system which by far has a more superior controller setup (which sony stole)... it will not only be cheaper but nintendo has always had a long list of classics that are propriatary to nintendo. You will be able to download all of the classics to your new Wii system.
Xbox is awaiting to launch both Halo3 and Forza 2 which are two of the strongest titles for Xbox; all along w/ dropping the price of the console. It has already taken a nice strong hold of the current buying market and i wouldn't expect them to stop. Anyone who can publicly announce they are loosing a billion a year and have no problem doing so is going to be tuff to beat. Microsoft isn't going for 2nd place.
Over all i think PS3 will be a good console but i think w/ them it is too little too late. I will enjoy my 360 and the new Wii once its launched. With most of the major titles selling on both platforms paying extra for a PS3 is just dumb.
no shit dog i can't wait: Zelda, 007, Paperboy, Super Mario 2-3, Mario cart, etc..SUPER SMASH BROTHERS AND GOLDENEYE FTMFW!!!!!!
shit for me its only Goldeneye, Super Smash Brothers, and the orginal Perfect Dark!!!!!!
I dont know anything about this new nintendo system, Ive havent really kept up with nintendo, all there exclusive titles have always seemed to kiddy based for my taste, after the original playstation came out I was done with nintendo. Like I said though I dont know anything about the new nintendo offering to the gaming world.
dude what are you talking about alot of todays greatest games all started from Nintendo. Hell even today no FPS game can beat the orginal Goldeneye 007. Just like no rpg can ever beat FF7. Alot of todays greats all come from the help of nintendo!!!!
I was merely referring to the last couple consoles from nintendo and theyre current state. Old school nintendo is what made all of the gaming world what it is today and when other systems started to come out, I.E. playstation and dreamcast, they were all trying to get one up on nintendo. The Gamecube was GAY. And all the really good titles on it were available on other systems. The remake they did of Metal Gear Solid was the shizzle though.
they have always been more kid oriented but i think the huge difference is the game play... i will pick up any old nintendo game at any time compared to a new game on any console... i just can't get enough of the classics no matter how many times you play them.
super nintendo FTW, it was a marvel in its time and I still love that system.
nintendo wii ftw! there are a lot of non-kiddie games coming out for this system, which can all be viewed at nintendo's website (red steel is one of my favorites)...also, they're coming out with excitetruck i think it's called, which should be a blast...and on the ps3...it'll be more powerful than 360 just cause of the blue ray laser or w/e its called...holds a ton more memory on the discs...but then again, games will be more expensive prolly....nintendo is def. the best buy imo..360 next MAYBE if their titles get better...ps3 last just cause of the price tag....
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the titles on the 360 arent looking astonishing right now cause its the only next gen console out right now, third party game makers cant afford to make two sepperate games and still make a profit, werd on the street is that they finally stopped making games for the xbox though so things should start to get better for the 360.
yep thats true there are not going to be many new Xbox games anymore, they have stop procesing them. But you also have to think, people bash 360 for its titles so far, but yet its not even been out a full year. They jsut finished getting all the bugs out of the system...which is a good thing...and know they are pushing major titles. Another new NFS game coming coon Forza 2 (kickass) coming soon, and Halo 3 (going to suck just as bad as number 2) coming out soon, along with tons and tons of other games. Wii is going ot be a msut have, shit i am going to get one, but PS3 is a waste of money. To dam expensive for everything, and not as powerful as the 360. so....
you have to remember games like Grand Theft carried PS2 to its level of status.... Xbox never had a chance to compete b/c of it being so new, but it was by far a better machine; just lacking software. Online play for Xbox is so large you can't even compare sony to it... and now w/ Grand Theft, Final Fantasy, and more games coming over sony is going to be in for the fight of their life to keep their status as #1. like i said before Microsoft as openly said they are fine w/ loosing more money and sony isn't in that position so they better come out bigger better and stronger then ever if they plan on competing w/ the rest.... nintendo is going to stay alive b/c of the low price and the proprietary games. but i wouldn't be surprised to see them start to make software for other consoles in the years to come.... the market is tuff right now w/ sony/microsoft on top
wth did i read somebody say paperboy?? holy shit!!
I talked w/ a dude from Gamespot and he said it will take about a year for the 360's great games and titles to come out as well as the Ps3 when it comes out. I love the playstation games better but i hope ps3 comes out w/ a better online play.
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eh who said the xbox 360 is more powerful than the ps3? thats just absurd. Do a full read up on exactly how the chipsets and architecture works in both and you'll see just how powerful the ps3 is. Here is the issue with the ps3 is that its easier to program to utilize most of its potential. to use all of it is extremely complicated in the programming.
Also whoever stated that the xbox 360 is getting final fantasy. its only getting ffXI. not any other FF title. Also there will be no charge for the sony ps3 online play, unless the game title requires a sub such as FFXI does.
Were talking about game titles etc but i hope you all know that the US saw only about 30% of the ps1 games made, and about 50% of the ps2 ones made. There are alot of extremely great games that they never braught to the US.
and yes.. paperboy was the shit.. i miss my amiga 500
i dont think sony is coming out with the ps3 too little to late like paul says. in all honestly i think they did the smart thing. microsoft shortened the release date so that they could get the 360 out before christmas so they could start making bank, the down side to that was the fact that they didnt get alot of the bugs out before they released it. same thing happened with the original, that shit crashed alot for people when it first came out. sony on the other hand extended its release date to not only perfect the graphics even more and the operating system. but, they also did so in order to get all or atleast most of the kinks out in order to not have to deal with problems like the 360 did. i think the ps3 is going to take the gaming industry by storm and take it away from the 360
while the wii will have its own audience and wont really have to worry to much cuz nintendo knows people will buy it just cus its an nintendo
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wrong they didnt just hold off on the release date for the PS3 to get all the kinks out, they held off to see what Microsoft came out with and to go through there system to see what they are up against and try to get a 1 up ont he Xbox!
uhm wrong. the ps3 has been in development for as long as the xbox360. and the specs on it havnt changed since the release of the xbox360.
The design of the ps3 since the start was already up on the xbox.
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