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    Default My 1983 Starion Build Thread

    I figured to get the ball rolling, I'd post my own build thread, which I never have done because of the disappointment associated with this car growing up. I bought this car for $550 a month before I graduated high school. I would see the car every day from about 10th grade and would be like man that thing is nice (stupid me, huh?) It was always just parked in a spot in my neighborhood growing up. One day I see the owner (Rich was his name, if anyone knows/knew him) I think he said it was his dad's car, but any how I was very excited about it and asked if he was interested in selling it since it was always sitting. Coincidence is that he was actually getting rid of it like the same weekend. I believe he was junking it. I bought it with the quickness and sadly it turned into an obsession/money pit for a while. Lots of great memories in it, however. I created G54B.com and it was a starion/conquest community that kind of fed off of a bigger/better one called starquestclub.com (great resource for starionheads, btw). I hosted group purchases on pistons, etc all around good group, but i axed the site because it was dividing the already small starquest community. I'm still thinking of what to do with the domain, but I'm not really a fan of the G54B motor any more. It is cool because it's different, but in retrospect if I could tell 17 year old me to save up and drop in a 4g63/64 or a 1J I would have saved so much headache. I might just make the domain something informative about the motor itself, we'll see.

    The car started out on 2 injector TBI setup, I moved over to an "upgraded" 2 injector setup from fuelinjectionpro.com, had it tuned on that and an upgraded "stockish" turbo from 12A --> 16g and added an intercooler from the intercooled years and had it tuned on the Dyno by Scotty @ MSP. It ran good, it was fun... Then all of sudden it stopped working - I blew the injector driver on the standalone megasquirt-based ECU... I took that into DIYautotune (next door to AutoFab in suwanee) and they sold me one of their units- awesome unit. I figured it'd be a good idea to move to 4 injectors and crank up the boost my bigger turbonetics turbo so TurboDave made me a sick manifold. I towed the car home because it wouldn't start on the dyno and killed the starter in the process... talk about the feeling of defeat.

    I finally got the car idling but then found that my ghetto rigged exhaust manifold had lots of cracks and TDF manifold was also leaking- not his fault we would have known if the car started at the shop. My exhaust manifold was a KA24DE(240sx) t3 manifold with a ghetto rigged adapter piece which I'll try to find a pic of. Basically, we took 2 flanges a G54B exhaust flange and a KA24 exhaust flange and welded "runners" in between. This saved me from getting a super expensive manifold and it worked for a while on my old injection setup. I replaced the bootleg manifold with a cast iron t3-g54b manifold to avoid future issues, but my plumbing wasn't even close any more, so I kind of just left the car in the state it was in for years. Paying for school/ hard times- it just wasn't feasible to continue at the time. And the feeling that no matter what I put in, stuff will always go wrong (starquest owners know this feeling). Ended up messing with many other cars over the years, never being able to sell this one- I was pot comitted and I'd never get even a fraction of what I put in so I might as well keep it, I thought. Good decision, I still have my first project car.



    My 78 Corolla in the background ( no longer have it - that car was awesome, I didn't even have a camera back then and I can't find the few pics I had)

    if you look closely, you can see the bootleg exhaust manifold in this pic:



    Here is the list of what has accumulated into the build over the years:

    Head

    85 Dodge Caravan Head (non jet valve)
    Schneider 272 Cam
    Scheider HD valve Springs

    Block
    Balance Shaft Elimination Kit
    .031 Over Wiseco 7.8:1CR Forged Pistons
    Stock Connecting rods- Magnafluxed, polished beams, shot peened
    Unground stock nitride coated crank
    New OEM Oil Pump
    New OEM Water Pump
    Hot-Tanked/Machined/Balanced/Blueprinted by Ball Engine

    Intake/Exhaust
    Cast Iron G54B/ T3 Manifold
    TurboDave Fab'd Multiport Intake manifold 3" Plenum
    3 inch turboback - no cats or muffler, all pipe
    Turbonetics t3/t4 ~60mm inducer, .63a/r stage 1 turbine.
    Tial 38mm Wastegate
    2.25" hot pipe 3" cold pipe IC piping (fabbed by TurboDave)

    Fuel/Spark
    RC 550cc saturated injectors
    Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
    Generic Fuel Pressure Regulator
    MSD 6AL, MSD Boost Timing Master
    Megasquirt 1 PCB 3.0
    Dodge caravan ignition module in dizzy for megasquirt (soon to be replaced with EDIS-4 setup)
    GM 3Bar MAP

    Misc
    Upgraded/Rebuilt stock Tranny and LSD rear
    6puck clutch disk and HD pressure plate
    KYB GR-2 Shocks all around


    Some more recent pics:







































    Entertained the idea of running E85 on a starion: I'm thinking of going the e85 route

    The last time I drove my car and it stopped, I went home and made this thread: http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...g-fuel%5D.html
    Last edited by RandomGuy; 06-13-2012 at 10:00 AM. Reason: fixed unnecessary font tags from WSIWYG editor

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    Build thread since 2006 huh

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    Quote Originally Posted by -EnVus- View Post
    Build thread since 2006 huh
    reading EXIF data is not -worthy

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    I wish i had traded that kid the day i drove his. I think you was selling it for him on here i posted the same day about it....
    http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...light=conquest

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    it looks like a lsx would be right at home in that engine bay!
    Hella stock member!

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    Quote Originally Posted by silversol View Post
    it looks like a lsx would be right at home in that engine bay!
    My dream is of a DOHC 5.0 swapped Conquest

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    Great start to the build threads section, i hope the section and your both come together!

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    I see you still have the flat side Starion, that is a awesome machine, also in the back ground i see the corolla, hummm my head start thinking devilish things BUUAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

    If any help let me know bro,
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    fap fap fap.................................i ran out of fap *gimmie 2 minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragoncelica View Post
    I see you still have the flat side Starion, that is a awesome machine, also in the back ground i see the corolla, hummm my head start thinking devilish things BUUAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

    If any help let me know bro,
    Yepppp...

    Believe it or not, I actually got the exhaust that's still on the car from you when you were at FinishLine... I think it was from some car that was there at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy View Post
    Yepppp...

    Believe it or not, I actually got the exhaust that's still on the car from you when you were at FinishLine... I think it was from some car that was there at the time.
    Ohh wow, awesome!
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    Cant wait till its up again bro. good luck - get it?

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    As soon as it's done we'll have to do starion vs supra. Except I'm not popping my hood

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    yeah dude you're right, it is the exhaust off my silver widebody...well the muffler part lmao...which is from the o/o
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    Check the Batmobile post and you will find the rear suspension of your silver wide body on there too
    SR20 Carbed Datsun B310

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    This is my fav car I want it lol

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    ran for the first time in 5 years:



    w00t Garage Zero

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    Congrats. Still waiting for that rematch.

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    This is sick old school I love it...

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    Nice, a legend is back!
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    Great project mate,keep up the good work.
    Help out at Import garage so get to play in great rides and handle car parts could it get better than this.

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    Got some more progress in today... Check it out


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    Awesome. Whats left to do before its road worthy again?

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    good
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    Nice. It's about time you got this thing going again.
    You know better; next time will be a ban.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSquared View Post
    Awesome. Whats left to do before its road worthy again?
    -Clutch slave
    -Dyno tune/ some stress testing

    A few other smaller random odds and ends.

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    In other words DEBUGGING the car!
    SR20 Carbed Datsun B310

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    Nice, sorry about the phone calls the other day i was too busy and forgot to call back men!
    SR20 Carbed Datsun B310

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragoncelica View Post
    Nice, sorry about the phone calls the other day i was too busy and forgot to call back men!
    No problemo man! The Z may be up for sale soon anyways.

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    I haven't updated this in a while only because I got busy with 100 things.

    So to recap, I found out why it has been so shitty all this time. The head was all out of wack. All 4 cylinders had a max of ~60psi during a compression test. Took it to the trusty folks at Ball Engine and Machine in lilburn (the same people who put the motor together when I got the forged pistons, nitride crank, baller rods, etc 7 years ago) He made the head as good as new again... surfaced the face, new valve guides, seated, the works. It's baller except for we already stripped 2 sets of threads that hold the rocker assembly on...So more delays.

    here are some pics:












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    I am looking forward to whooping that cars ass when you get it back on the road

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