anybody know how to??? yea yea yea idc if you dont think i should do it...
DIY on cuting springs?
anybody know how to??? yea yea yea idc if you dont think i should do it...
I don't think you should do it.
They see me trollinnnnn
take a ziz wheel to them, one coil at a time?
get ready for a shitty ride.
ScottyS10
Dude if you have a honda, it's like 40 bucks for some "coilovers" on ebay. I still have no idea why honda people cut when they can just buy them for so cheap
Got a MINI?Don't talk to me.
FUCK your FADS
Excuse me... 50 bucks..
Example
Got a MINI?
FUCK your FADS
"Cuting"? Not sure how you'd go about making springs cuter. They're not very cute to begin with.
yeah but the ride is extra bouncy . cutting is the cheapest way and it provides a more smoother ride than getting ebay coiloversOriginally Posted by MINI
more smoother?
you dumb motherfucker.
Save yourself the trouble and buy some springs, OP, because you're a dumb motherfucker, too.
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qd done it... any advice from him?....
i heard it was better then geting ebay coilovers
just take a cutoff wheel(zizz wheel) and cut a coil off and see if lowers t enough for your liking. just dont put a torch to em and youll be fine
I believe he heated his. I've had cut springs and their not bad compared to cheap ass ebays.
And you know this from experience or what you read on the internet?
He doesn't cut springs, he heats them.
i really dont think so. but good luck we had ebay sprinds on a 93 civic lx and it wasent that bad. but gl on cutting them bro
my brother had cut springs on his s13 and it rode like shit so a week and a half later he wised up and bought springs and struts
I HAVE 11 DIGITS
Exactly. I am "anti-cut" and "pro-heat" lolol. Later, QD.
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I'm pro-cut, but I did heat the springs that I had on my hatch. Only lowered it probably a 1/2", but it was exactly the stance I wanted.
QD has a shit ton of experience with heating, where I have only experience with cut springs on about 5-7 cars, so take his advice
'92 C2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel | '96 240sx
Only morons believe cutting springs is bad. Half the idiots with shitty riding cars from cut springs cut WAY too much off and didn't do it even, they probably also have crappy rest of the suspension.
If you're going to do it, to do it right it will take a few hours at the least. One by one, very close measuring, test fitting, lowering the car back down, etc. I've had three cars on cut springs and they all rode close to stock, sorry but if I decided to buy aftermarket suspension to make it STIFFER than it couldn't of been that bumpy.
Also make sure you cut to where the spring will set right again, if you need to heat it at the tip to make it seat, do that. It also never hurts to have another set of springs in case you fuck up. IT'S ALWAYS BETTER TO NOT CUT ENOUGH THAN TO CUT TOO MUCH. Take your time.
Cutting springs has a bad rep because it's cheap and lets face it a lot of broke ricers do it. I personally would much rather have eBay coilovers on a Civic or something, much stiffer. However those who bash cut springs fail to realize how many people have done it and experimented with it in the big world. Tons of race teams have messed with it to try t et different spring rates. Even a book, maybe "Chassis Engineering" recommends cutting springs for a low app street car.
thanks, i will be doing this soon
i was looking around for diy's on heating springs and found this http://www.ehow.com/how_5561156_heat...lower-car.html is that how its done?
I'm not saying you are an idiot or anything...but i have seen it done....cut the TOP of the spring not the bottom. A friend of mine got a car not too long ago for a good price, we checked out the suspension for him after he had the car in his hands. Well, turns out the fools before him cut the spring from the bottom and the spring ran about 2 rounds past the spring seat before the spring actually sat on it.
Anyway, I have been in several cars with cut spring and they didnt ride too damn bad. Just dont cut too much as others have already said.
Cutting springs increases the spring rate. If the current shocks are blown or on their way to being blown they will be once they are paired up with cut springs. The ONLY reason why cut springs will ride harshly is if the shocks are blown. Until then they will ride pretty much like stock.
I'm sorry but I still would never modify springs. lol and y'all call me a ricer :p
Got a MINI?
FUCK your FADS
You act as if a spring is such a complex item it can't be modified.
I guess some really big name racing teams are ricers too then.
Whether cutting or heating springs is safe or not aside, if you can't afford $100-200 for springs wtf are you doing modifying cars!? You need to take the little money you have and save it or buy your kid some diapers because you're obviously broke. First it's going to be cut springs, then a rattle can paint job, etc....
do things right the first time=best advice ever
for suspension full coilovers are the only way to go imo
Pretty much so. The only thing that was left out is when you're heating up one side of a coil, after you're don with that particular spot, you move to the opposite side of that same coil and heat it until it reaches the same position as the previous side.
"Ricer" for heating/cutting springs? Come on, man. Overusing the word much? This way of lowering has been around for far longer than the word "rice" was being used to describe cars modifying. It's been around for longer than you've been alive. Even longer than I've been alive.
You couldn't be more wrong. I'm not broke at all and I still heat springs on my cars. It's naive to think this way.
More naivety here. You're right, but not in the sense that you're trying to be. Best advice ever (in this regard) IS to do it right the first time. That's why you need to know what you're doing when you do this sort of thing. That's why it always works for me. Later, QD.
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do it right
its easy:
take off the strut
disassemble
get a cutting wheel or grinding wheel air compressor, or a some sort of power tool, or some shit that will cut metal.
and cut it..
my springs are cut, and im all good, until the struts blew...
Seeing some peoples suspension work is scary.
So you're saying the name-brand after market spring had a stiffer spring rate than the cut springs? What you're saying is, the Eibachs would handle better by saying the cut springs rode softer
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'92 C2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel | '96 240sx
wat im say is that, i dont spill my coffee in the morning going over a speed bump.
and my aftermarket sping is bouncy when i roll over a bump.
LOL thats what Im saying. Not saying cut springs are bad....but work like what we found blows my mind. I mean do these people not see that their lives and others on the road with them depend on this shitty work?
This is another reason why heating is better. It's easier to do. No tools necessary. Nothing to take off. Literally.
But that's someone not knowing what they're doing. Not someone doing something unsafe. Later, QD.
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Some people HAVE money and choose to do other things to their car because they like DIY or they don't want to spend $200 on springs that ride the exact same as cut springs. Have YOU cut springs? Any experience? I doubt it. It's like calling a car slow that you've never driven.do it right
Doing things right the first time, sure, makes sense, but cutting springs may be right to someone, on both my E30's cut springs were great, they were ALMOST stock ride quality with a better look, BMW springs are pricey, I got the EXACT same benefit as I would have if I spent $350 on name brand springs. Most people just want that name brand thing for their car, nobody wants to say "oh it has cut springs."
Full coilovers are the only way to go? Yeah, they're great on race cars or on cars where you USE them. Why would a regular street car need full coilovers? How often do half the people with full coilovers adjust rebound? How many even know what they do? That's a stupid comment, it ALL depends on what the car is used for. There is NOTHING wrong with just springs.
Look people cutting springs has its ups and downs!!!!!!!!!!! I wrked on and rode in many cars wit stock cut springs,aftermarket cut springs, egay coilovers, Full coilover setup, you name it.......... It all depends on how you wanna ride........... To me it easy as 1,2,3 Just go as you were replacing the strut take spring and start cutting( but cut from top.... Ya full coilover setup can be nice but some brands ride like shit...... There is nothing wrong wit cutting stock springs... Its cheap and lazy but hey everybody cant afford..... Hell seen couple of people talking bout stop being cheap and just buy some afermarket springs..... Shit I did I got some tein springs ( and no not that fake ebay green ones) when I put them on it wasnt low enough for me.... So I cut them.....
Mane what a year it has been already.....
I had Tein springs and they were 20x worse then any cut spring I've had, they rode like stock springs, real soft, totally waste of money, so yeah, name brand doesn't mean shit neither does the cost of things.
I THINK I SEEN YOUR CAR IN MY NEIGH....I WAS WALKING WHEN U "FLEW BY"..... YOU DONT WANNA DO IT DUDE...UNLESS U THAT POOR TO BUY BRAND NEW COIL-OVERS FROM EBAY...JUST SAYING....YOU GONNA BE BOUNCY AS FAWK...I WENT THROUGHT IT AND REALLY DONT RECOMEND IT...
If cutting springs was truly as safe/effective as buying aftermarket springs I'm sure atleast 2 things would happen:
1) the suspension aftermarket wouldn't be nearly as big as it is since eveyone can cut springs for 1/4 of the price and yield the equal benefits...suppliers like tein and koni would go out of business because no one would buy their stuff because according to you cut/heat springs do the same thing but cheaper and thus everyone would jump on this bandwagon.....much like how everyone started spray painting their wheels when it became known it was a cheap alternative to getting them professionally painted/powdercoated.
2) damn near everyone would do it..... I know a couple of ppl who auto-x and drag and they don't use cut/heated springs...they use coilovers....and I don't personally know anyone who uses cut/heated springs that has a car that can handle well
Full coilovers are awesome because you can adjust them so many ways, also....after these cut springs blow your struts then what!? exactly....now you have to get new struts so you prob should've just gotten coilovers from the start
You're making yourself seem stupid. First off, no not everyone would do it, I'm not saying they're BETTER, but I am saying they ARE equal to cheap springs. I'd rather save $200 even if I had the $200 to spend on springs. That's just me. It has nothing to do with being rich or poor. People DO spend money to have name brand parts though, you can't argue there. It is true some people cut springs because they're cheap and have no money for anything else, however some cut them for reasons.
The racing thing I know a lot of people who run eBay coilovers and many pro teams who have experimented with cutting springs. You'd be surprised. Plus not all classes allow full coilovers.
Cut springs DO NOT blow struts or shocks more than a lowering spring, WHY would you think that??? Struts are cheap, coilovers are $1000+ for a DECENT setup. A set of coilover sleeves or really nice springs with adjustable shocks is just as good to most people as a full set of real adjustable coilovers. Why? People like you don't know how to use them correctly and can't drive that well so it doesn't matter WHAT you have it's how you use it. lol
My red E30 didn't handle bad at all with cut springs, the springs are not the only thing on suspension. It was the equivalent of me running some lower end say Tein Basics or something, if the spring rates were the same then not much else mattered.
I had cut springs on my old integra and civic back in 2000/2001. Never had a problem with struts "blowing out". Most folks who experience this problem already had worn out struts more than likely. I even cut my Teins on my civic that I recently had because they really didn't do anything and was a waste of good money. I agree with Simon about most folks with full coilovers don't even use them the way they were intended. If you feel you need that little bit of self esteem boost by saying "I've got _____ full coilovers.", then by all means do so if it makes you feel better. If you don't have any experience with them, then why open your mouth?
Exactly. Unless you cut the springs and have NO spring left, the struts will blow just the same with real lowering springs. Nothing about cut springs make them blow faster or more aggressively. lol
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