It's been 10 years since I had the car wreck that changed my life.

[Justin.]

Today marks the day, I was in the car wreck that further effected my life from then on.

10 years ago when I was 16, I got a new civic si, 3 days later all that changed.

Being 16 and an idiot, the last MPH I recall was 120mph, I have no idea what happened, I remember the rear end sliding out and waking up 3 weeks later, after multiple surgery's, I have no hearing in my left ear, had facial reconstruction also multiple broken bones.

As you can see, the airbags didn't deploy, the fireman I went to thank after I could walk again told me that my head was pinned to the steering wheel, and with a bag deployment the outcome of me being here right now could be different. Also my seat belt broke. Onto the good stuff, pics!

[lanning]

damn, glad you're alright

[quickdodge®]

Being 16 and an idiot, the last MPH I recall was 120mph,

Thing is, did you learn from that? Later, QD.

[Justin.]

Thing is, did you learn from that? Later, QD.

Yes I did, I seen the pain my parents were in, and never wanted to do that to them again.

[quickdodge®]

Yes I did, I seen the pain my parents were in, and never wanted to do that to them again.

I can understand that. But what about yourself? Would you do it again if you knew your parents wouldn't be in any pain from it?

I'm just rambling. If you learned your lesson and all, then props to you, man. Just have to be safe because you never know. Later, QD.

[Justin.]

I can understand that. But what about yourself? Would you do it again if you knew your parents wouldn't be in any pain from it?

I'm just rambling. If you learned your lesson and all, then props to you, man. Just have to be safe because you never know. Later, QD.

Would never do it again, of course I am much older and have learned life's lessons, Everyone has their day to go, and that day wasn't mine, thank god!

I have to much in life to live for.

[Me86Rob]

Thing is, did you learn from that? Later, QD.

take a look at one of his many "my old truck on the dragons tail" threads he makes and there, my good friend, you will find the answer.

[Justin.]

take a look at one of his many "my old truck on the dragons tail" threads he makes and there, my good friend, you will find the answer.

I never made a old truck on dragons tail thread.

[Me86Rob]

I never made a old truck on dragons tail thread.

sorry. I was being a fucking idot and read your name as "jason" rather than "justin"

my bad homie. Glad you are here to tell us about the wreck!

[thecrazyone]

were you told what happend? tree? flipped over? ditch? anyone else involved?

[Justin.]

were you told what happend? tree? flipped over? ditch? anyone else involved?

Police man said I went air born in a corner and back end slid out, I don't remember going airborn but I did remember the rear end sliding out, estimated flipping 8 times after hitting road side ditch, they found the ecu that disconnected it self from the harness and out of the kick panel 30 yards from where the car landed.

[BABY J]

99 Civic Si was the fastest car ever produced. Racecar... PERIOD. Dibs on the drivers door handle.

[Glides]

99 Civic Si was the fastest car ever produced. Racecar... PERIOD. Dibs on the drivers door handle.

"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Baby J again"

I LOL'd.

Stupid move OP, but then again, you were 16 and we were all dumb at 16.

[xxbckiexx]

did you sue the fuck out of honda for faulty airbag deployment what the fuck? Should've changed your life to millionaire status. If some slut can sue Mcdonalds for a mil because he coffee was hot and they didn't warn her, you surely could've gotten something out of this.

[BABY J]

did you sue the fuck out of honda for faulty airbag deployment what the fuck? Should've changed your life to millionaire status. If some slut can sue Mcdonalds for a mil because he coffee was hot and they didn't warn her, you surely could've gotten something out of this.

That's not why she got paid. If this was wrongful death it'd be different SLIGHTLY. But maybe you missed the 120mph part.

I love America - "I was being an ass and now I'm going to sue you." Makes sense.

[xxbckiexx]

That's not why she got paid. If this was wrongful death it'd be different SLIGHTLY. But maybe you missed the 120mph part.

I love America - "I was being an ass and now I'm going to sue you." Makes sense.

From what i read, that's why she got paid. Spilled hot coffee, burned herself, she wasn't warned it was hot, had no warning label on the cup, bam 1 mil in the bank.

yes he was driving 120mph, but it doesn't fucking matter, that doesn't make your airbag not work. If i pay for a new car and i get into a serious accident, going 40, or going 200, i want my airbag to fucking deploy, because it's what i paid for. YES IT'S MY FAULT FOR WRECKING BECAUSE I WAS GOING A DANGEROUS SPEED. No it's not my fault that honda put in a faulty air bag. This isn't a case where he did something stupid and sued honda for something that wasn't their fault. he didn't sue honda for not putting on the proper tires to handle 120 mph. He sued honda for not having a fucking airbag that worked. Now where i see your point, and totally agree that people do stupid shit, then sue others, this is not the case in this instance.

Facts

On February 27, 1992, Stella Liebeck, a 79-year-old woman from Albuquerque, New Mexico, ordered a 49¢ cup of coffee from the drive-through window of a local McDonald's restaurant. Liebeck was in the passenger's seat of her Ford Probe, and her grandson Chris parked the car so that Liebeck could add cream and sugar to her coffee. She placed the coffee cup between her knees and pulled the far side of the lid toward her to remove it. In the process, she spilled the entire cup of coffee on her lap.[9] Liebeck was wearing cotton sweatpants; they absorbed the coffee and held it against her skin as she sat in the puddle of hot liquid for over 90 seconds, scalding her thighs, buttocks, and groin.[10] Liebeck was taken to the hospital, where it was determined that she had suffered third-degree burns on six percent of her skin and lesser burns over sixteen percent.[11] She remained in the hospital for eight days while she underwent skin grafting. During this period, Liebeck lost 20 pounds (nearly 20% of her body weight), reducing her down to 83 pounds.[12] Two years of medical treatment followed.
[edit] Settlement offers

Liebeck sought to settle with McDonald's for US $20,000 to cover her medical costs, which were $11,000, but the company offered only $800. When McDonald's refused to raise its offer, Liebeck retained Texas attorney Reed Morgan. Morgan filed suit in a New Mexico District Court accusing McDonald's of "gross negligence" for selling coffee that was "unreasonably dangerous" and "defectively manufactured". McDonald's refused Morgan's offer to settle for $90,000.[4] Morgan offered to settle for $300,000, and a mediator suggested $225,000 just before trial, but McDonald's refused these final pre-trial attempts to settle.[4]
[edit] Trial

she got $650,00 for herself.

[Bajjani]

From what i read, that's why she got paid. Spilled hot coffee, burned herself, she wasn't warned it was hot, had no warning label on the cup, bam 1 mil in the bank.

Then read it over


Yes she spilled coffee

The trial took place from August 8–17, 1994, before Judge Robert H. Scott.[13] During the case, Liebeck's attorneys discovered that McDonald's required franchises to serve coffee at 180–190 °F (82–88 °C). At that temperature, the coffee would cause a third-degree burn in two to seven seconds. Stella Liebeck's attorney argued that coffee should never be served hotter than 140 °F (60 °C), and that a number of other establishments served coffee at a substantially lower temperature than McDonald's. Liebeck's lawyers presented the jury with evidence that 180 °F (82 °C) coffee like that McDonald’s served may produce third-degree burns (where skin grafting is necessary) in about 12 to 15 seconds.

that was almost 200 degrees

[xxbckiexx]

Then read it over


Yes she spilled coffee

The trial took place from August 8–17, 1994, before Judge Robert H. Scott.[13] During the case, Liebeck's attorneys discovered that McDonald's required franchises to serve coffee at 180–190 °F (82–88 °C). At that temperature, the coffee would cause a third-degree burn in two to seven seconds. Stella Liebeck's attorney argued that coffee should never be served hotter than 140 °F (60 °C), and that a number of other establishments served coffee at a substantially lower temperature than McDonald's. Liebeck's lawyers presented the jury with evidence that 180 °F (82 °C) coffee like that McDonald’s served may produce third-degree burns (where skin grafting is necessary) in about 12 to 15 seconds.

that was almost 200 degrees

she spilled the coffee, t hen let it soak in her pants for 90 THAT'S RIGHT NINETY SECONDS and then got burned

bitch if youre parked, and you spill fucking coffee on yourself, get the fuck out of the car and take the pants down, or pull them down in your car. she was burned from her OWN negligence, not because Mcdonalds served her hot coffee. If she tried to drink it and it burned her esophagus in half, then id say it was rightful. However nothing about that case is proper. That heat can cause 3rd degree burns in 2-7 seconds if it's not soaking through clothing having to get to the skin. it took her 90 seconds ti figure out she should probably not sit there and let in burn her any longer. That's a case of retard.

[Glides]

yes he was driving 120mph, but it doesn't fucking matter

WRONG!!!!! You have NO idea how legal stuff works. Let me enlighten you.

When this person, 16 year old kid, exceeded the speed limit into the triple digit range, he committed what is called a Willful, Wanton and Reckless act. He ALSO was BREAKING THE LAW. So.....99 times out of 100, ANY company will deny ANY coverage. There are rare cases of course where a person will win out, but almost all the time. Nope. You break the law you are fucked.

That would be like saying. "Hey, I broke into your store and robbed you, but the safety latch on your walk in Freezer didn't work and I got locked in and froze all night so i'm going to sue the company that made the freezer latch"

Sounds pretty stupid to anyone with common sense. Sure it sucks that the Airbag didn't work...or in his case, it didn't suck cause if it did he would be dead....but he should have never been going 120 milles an hour to even have to test that.

And comparing the McDonalds case to this case is just ludicrous. Though I do see your ode to ridiculous court cases.

Good thing you lived, and learned a VERY important lesson early on in your life and now you can be a better man for it OP.

[Njobe]

WRONG!!!!! You have NO idea how legal stuff works. Let me enlighten you.

When this person, 16 year old kid, exceeded the speed limit into the triple digit range, he committed what is called a Willful, Wanton and Reckless act. He ALSO was BREAKING THE LAW. So.....99 times out of 100, ANY company will deny ANY coverage. There are rare cases of course where a person will win out, but almost all the time. Nope. You break the law you are fucked.

That would be like saying. "Hey, I broke into your store and robbed you, but the safety latch on your walk in Freezer didn't work and I got locked in and froze all night so i'm going to sue the company that made the freezer latch"

Sounds pretty stupid to anyone with common sense. Sure it sucks that the Airbag didn't work...or in his case, it didn't suck cause if it did he would be dead....but he should have never been going 120 milles an hour to even have to test that.

And comparing the McDonalds case to this case is just ludicrous. Though I do see your ode to ridiculous court cases.

Good thing you lived, and learned a VERY important lesson early on in your life and now you can be a better man for it OP.

that did happen, just not that way. a burglar tried to rob a house and when he got inside slipped and cut himself(or something like that). he ended up suing the home owners and winning. i would say it doesn't matter that he was going triple digit speeds. the air bags are "safety devices" they protect you. imagine if it was a death or life emergency and he had to drive that fast to get to the hospital or had a fire at his house. he paid for the car with working air bags and that's what he should get.

[MongolPup]

That's not why she got paid.

THANK YOU. Jesus fucking Christ I can't stand when people say that. There was way more to the story, including MONTHS of prior history/documentation.

[Justin.]

did you sue the fuck out of honda for faulty airbag deployment what the fuck? Should've changed your life to millionaire status. If some slut can sue Mcdonalds for a mil because he coffee was hot and they didn't warn her, you surely could've gotten something out of this.

Yes we did.

[Njobe]

Yes we did.

how much did you end up getting?

[punkr6]

I'll buy the head and tranny....

[BABY J]

Looks to me if the wheel-bag had deployed the back of your head would have it's on sunroof. I'd be happy with that and call Honda and say "good looking out."

[DeeAOne]

damn dude. i know how this is. makes you think twice about doing anything stupid everytime. i rolled 3 times and only needed stitches on my finger.

[BABY J]

McDonald's bitch won b/c of a MEMO that McDs corporate sent out to every store. That memo basically said to overheat the coffee - this way by the time it's cool enough to drink patrons would not be hungry for more (since refills are free). The MEMO is what got got her paid not the hot coffee.

Look at how close the steering wheel is to the roof - a bag deployment would have prob meant DEATH. There are more than 1 way to look at shit like this.

[xxbckiexx]

McDonald's bitch won b/c of a MEMO that McDs corporate sent out to every store. That memo basically said to overheat the coffee - this way by the time it's cool enough to drink patrons would not be hungry for more (since refills are free). The MEMO is what got got her paid not the hot coffee.

Look at how close the steering wheel is to the roof - a bag deployment would have prob meant DEATH. There are more than 1 way to look at shit like this.

regardless of the memo, the fact that she won a million dollars because she spilled coffee on herself is excessive, and completely undeserved. Whether the airbag deployment meant death or not, the fact is this, his airbag that is supposed to save his life did not even deploy. That's faulty equipment.

I could understand if the retard at mcdonalds sued because the cup got too hot it melted and then she got third degree burned, but she SPILLED IT ON HERSELF, and then sued for it.

[BABY J]

regardless of the memo, the fact that she won a million dollars because she spilled coffee on herself is excessive, and completely undeserved. Whether the airbag deployment meant death or not, the fact is this, his airbag that is supposed to save his life did not even deploy. That's faulty equipment.

I could understand if the retard at mcdonalds sued because the cup got too hot it melted and then she got third degree burned, but she SPILLED IT ON HERSELF, and then sued for it.

I don't think he died since he is posting 10 years after the incident.

[xxbckiexx]

I don't think he died since he is posting 10 years after the incident.

you would suck as an attorney. That's like throwing a deflating life raft to someone, doesn't do much good. Obviously he didn't die, that's not he point. One could argue that his injuries could have been much less substantial had his life saving device deployed as it was supposed to. It's been proven that airbags save lives and reduce injuries, not that they do the opposite. In any case an air bag not deploying is an incredible fault and should be sued for, PERIOD.

[Bajjani]

regardless of the memo, the fact that she won a million dollars because she spilled coffee on herself is excessive, and completely undeserved. Whether the airbag deployment meant death or not, the fact is this, his airbag that is supposed to save his life did not even deploy. That's faulty equipment.

I could understand if the retard at mcdonalds sued because the cup got too hot it melted and then she got third degree burned, but she SPILLED IT ON HERSELF, and then sued for it.

McDonalds lost because they made it hot enough to give third degree burns in seconds, not because it hurt and her leg turned red. She had third degree burns all over her legs. Yes its her fault for spilling herself, her punishment is ruined clothes and burning legs, not blisters and third degree burns.

The air bag tho is faulty equipment but this was 10 years ago so either way its done and never giong to change.

[xxbckiexx]

McDonalds lost because they made it hot enough to give third degree burns in seconds, not because it hurt and her leg turned red. She had third degree burns all over her legs. Yes its her fault for spilling herself, her punishment is ruined clothes and burning legs, not blisters and third degree burns.

The air bag tho is faulty equipment but this was 10 years ago so either way its done and never giong to change.

you're still missing the part where she sat in the "hot liquid puddle for over 90 seconds" which caused the 3rd degree burns through her clothing.

[Ran]

she sat in the "hot liquid puddle for over 90 seconds"

Kinky

[Vicosin]

Damn OP...glad you're alright.
This thread=more incentive for me to not speed. So much traffic around here, all it really does is make you wait at redlights longer anyways.

[Brian*]

Damn, mine was not as bad but it must be something about Civics...

But I was not being a dumb ass, my passenger pulled the fucking e-brake at 70mph, didn't mean to but still WTF!

[Jason..]

Damn man glad u ditn die.id rep u but my phone won't let me.

[K20Z1]

i spy war...

anyhow, dips on the infamous steering wheels

[K20Z1]

and the gauge cluster

[Got Milk?]

Don't do stupid and drive.

[MongolPup]

I didn't know there was a shit storm, and I don't care enough to post in it. Read up on the case everyone. McDonald's behavior in the past with keeping coffee hot enough to people to enjoy on the type of time table a morning commute involves particularly, and prior incidents involving out of court settlements and the exact temperature of the coffee.