Alabama's Mark Ingram wins it. Discuss...
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Alabama's Mark Ingram wins it. Discuss...
no surprise.
it was close but i truely feel that gerhart was better. but oh well, both are still great players for sure.
Alabama is undefeated and now the new nuts for writers, voters and espn to swing from.
Gerhart
ATT YDS AVG LONG TD
311_1736_5.6__61___26
Ingram
ATT YDS AVG LONG TD
249_1542_6.2__70 __15
without gerhart stanford would not being going to a bowl game this year
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Without Ingram Alabama wouldn't be in the national championship, much less in the top probably. How many games did Stanford lose? I know Gerhart's stats are better and he fought some amazing comebacks through the year, but I think Ingram truly helped his team much more through the course of the season.Originally Posted by Hulud
I was also hoping he'd win it since Alabama's record is better than any other team, since Texas barely (and should've lost) squeeked by nebraska.
nah Alabama would have lost only 2 games at most without Ingram, doubt even that many.
Ala defense was averaging about 10.something points per game. They were going to the SEC Championship with or without Ingram. Yes Ingram was a freakin beast against Florida. But i still think they would be ranked in the top 5 without him.
But dont get me wrong Ingram is siiiiick. He deserves it just as much as gerhart hence why it was the closest in history
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You are on crack. Without Ingram, Richardson steps in and does just as well, if not better. Remember, it was Richardson that was on the field during that final drive against Auburn, Ingram was just watching.
And it was Ingram easily putting 3 touchdowns on the books vs. FL, Richardson was just watching. It sure seemed that a ton of people were worried that Ingram wouldnt play in the SEC championship for "richardson to so easily take his place." Why the week long talk and headlines saying his hip was hurt if someone of the same exact talent was waiting to take his place?
Are you forgetting that 'Bama would've lost to Tennessee if it wasn't for that last second blocked kick? Or how they got dominated by Auburn until the last minutes with Richardson (not Ingram) in the backfield? 'Bama is much more lucky to have the record that they have than Texas.
...lol if you look at the stats, Gerhart actually faced higher ranked rush defenses, but ok...
Yeah, Suh's numbers were absolutely nuts this year. I don't know if anyone has seen this stat, but check it out.
Alabama D-Line
98 Tkl, 23.5 TFL, 9.5 Sk, 20 QBH, 5 PBU, 0 Int, 1 FF, 3 Blk
Florida D-Line
112 Tkl, 33 TFL, 14 Sk, 48 QBH, 5 PBU, 0 Int, 1 FF, 0 Blk
Texas D-Line
116 Tkl, 25.5 TFL, 15.5 Sk, 10 QBH, 7 PBU, 0 Int, 2 FF, 0 Blk
Ndamukong Suh
82 Tkl, 23 TFL, 12 Sk, 24 QBH, 10 PBU, 1 Int, 1 FF, 3 Blk
Thank you for pointing this out, because I was going to do so until I saw your post. 'Bama performed just as well with Richardson in the backfield as they did with Ingram. Simply put, 'Bama can put up points without Ingram, Stanford would've been next to nothing offensively without Gerhart.
All true. And im an Auburn fan, so I have no love for Bama at all, im not some nutswinger. I just think Ingram deserved to win over everyone else. True, Bama had their close games against unranked teams. But in the biggest game of the year, they showed up big. In Texas's biggest game of the year, they had the poorest time mis-management i've ever seen and got extremely lucky to have the chance for that field goal.
Yeah I was pulling for Gerhart, but I have no problem with Ingram winning it, he is definitely deserving.
My biggest complaint with it this year is that Tebow made the top 5 and Spiller didn't. I'm not saying I think Spiller should have gotten the Heisman, but it's ridiculous that he didn't even get the trip to New York. (coming from a GT fan who, despite his hatred for all things Clemson, realizes that Spiller is an incredible college player)
I was certain OBAMA had this in the bag....
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I think the biggest reason Ingram got it over gerhart is because the SEC is known for being the conference with the best defenses in all of college football, the fact that Ingram put up the numbers he did against the teams he did is what did it for him. The SEC puts more defensive players in the NFL every year than any other conference and ingram ran all over them all season.
Ingram got it only because Bama is in the NC. Gerhart was the better back by a long shot this year.
Neither of them was nearly as impressive as Suh though. He was, by a wide margin, the best player in CFB this year. Too bad he is a DT though and not one of those pretty players.
I made this for bama
heres how i see it
richardson> ingram
CJ Spiller should of gotten it! The number he put up this year being injured since game one were incredible.
Spiller will make an outstanding all purpose back in the NFL. I imagine he will play the same style as Brian Westbrook or Eddie George.
although ingram made a strong bid, tebow takes home the Criesman.
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