Rap music....

[Jason..]

Is it all about trapping,killing,smoking and how much money you have?Every song seems the same just mixed up....explain y people think is awsome to rob people, sell drugs and live in section 8 homes?

Cause if I remember right these were the origional gangsters....



Discuss...

[Elbow]

Real rap is dead, all the rappers today are pop singers from private school trying to act hard, a bunch of pussy ass bitches.

[Ran]

Define "oxymoron".

Rap music...

Good job.

[DeutscheBAG!]

Real rap is dead, all the rappers today are pop singers from private school trying to act hard, a bunch of pussy ass bitches.

BS

you guys are just listening to the wrong stations and not looking for what else is out there.

honestly, the best hip/hop is played on 88.5
Stop listening to 95.5 the Beat and supporting these ringtone rappers and real artists will get more play

while your at it, check out artists like Slum Village or Little Brother

better yet, time to make a no BS music thread for people that of tired of what rap has turned into to today

[EJ25RUN]

88.5 is the best at all counts. Have they gone online yet?

[Sammich]

I CAME TO TAKE THE GAME LIKE JOHN MADDEN
CUZ I PLAYED IN THE GAME LIKE JOHN MADDEN

[Humphrizzle]

listen to old rap.. it's better

here's a taste.

http://www.playlist.com/searchbeta/t...970%20somethin

[ed_gm90]

rap - lies= hip hop

[big crunch22]

ur just a h8er

[cjhutch]

I don't even try to defend rap music with people that have POV's like the OP. I will however say that your post can apply to any type of music out there. Take rock music for example where they talk about killing one another all the time, committing suicide, and heavy drug use. This doesn't just go for rap music, but all genres, if you want to hear good music turn the radio off. The reason you only here certain types of music being played on the radio is because stations have to appeal to the masses and pull in the kind of listeners that their sponsors are relying on to buy the products they advertise during the commercial breaks. The record labels know this as well and they promote certain artists more than others because the music that the marketable person is producing can be dumbed down and they aren't going to say anything that upsets corporate America.

[quickdodge®]

Define "oxymoron".

Ran cool


Good job.

Good job. Later, QD.

[Jason..]

I don't even try to defend rap music with people that have POV's like the OP. I will however say that your post can apply to any type of music out there. Take rock music for example where they talk about killing one another all the time, committing suicide, and heavy drug use. This doesn't just go for rap music, but all genres, if you want to hear good music turn the radio off. The reason you only here certain types of music being played on the radio is because stations have to appeal to the masses and pull in the kind of listeners that their sponsors are relying on to buy the products they advertise during the commercial breaks. The record labels know this as well and they promote certain artists more than others because the music that the marketable person is producing can be dumbed down and they aren't going to say anything that upsets corporate America.

I wasn't talking about rock I was talking about rap..your statement is flawed...

[cactusEG]

I get tired of listening to the word "swag" on every song !

[Maniacc]

Only nerds stay away from drugs and robbing people.

Real gangsters wear bandanas, tag walls, and throw up their G-sign while passing by you doing 50mph.

[PRO®]

BS

you guys are just listening to the wrong stations and not looking for what else is out there.

honestly, the best hip/hop is played on 88.5
Stop listening to 95.5 the Beat and supporting these ringtone rappers and real artists will get more play

while your at it, check out artists like Slum Village or Little Brother

better yet, time to make a no BS music thread for people that of tired of what rap has turned into to today

^what he said.

and reps when i can for a little brother fan

[cjhutch]

I wasn't talking about rock I was talking about rap..your statement is flawed...

I know you were talking about rap music. What I was pointing out is people always single out rap music as the negative genre, but fail to talk about other forms of music that are just as bad. That is why I used rock music as an example to show you can nitpick and point out the negatives in any music genre. It all boils down to what you chose to listen to.

[Jason..]

I know you were talking about rap music. What I was pointing out is people always single out rap music as the negative genre, but fail to talk about other forms of music that are just as bad. That is why I used rock music as an example to show you can nitpick and point out the negatives in any music genre. It all boils down to what you chose to listen to.

To many big words in there for me to understand lol..

[BobbyFresco]

To many big words in there for me to understand lol..

Go figure.

[quickdodge®]

I know you were talking about rap music. What I was pointing out is people always single out rap music as the negative genre, but fail to talk about other forms of music that are just as bad. That is why I used rock music as an example to show you can nitpick and point out the negatives in any music genre. It all boils down to what you chose to listen to.

That's because rock music isn't as violent and drug related (in their music) as rap is. Not even close. There's no rock music that glorifies killing people. Raping women. Calling them every derogatory name in the book. Only rap and even newer R&B. And only every once in a while will you hear of a drug reference. The main eras that you "heard" about drugs in rock was in the mid '60s to early 70s.

That's why the old school/early days of rap are so much better to listen to because there is something to actually listen to. I know true hip hop of today is the same way, but I don't like the music styles so I don't listen to it. Later, QD.

[bu villain]

Many people find it easy to generalize ALL rap/hip hop as violent, condoning violence etc. Some of it does for sure although usually its the whack emcees that do that. However you have to understand some of the cultural context for it. Hiphop was born in the slums of NYC. Violence, drugs, etc were what people saw all around them everyday. People wanted to tell the story of their world. Many of the original emcess were telling people how things were, not how things should be and newer emcees who don't even understand their own genre's history simply try to mimic the subject matter .

Additionally, rapping is also story telling. An emcee can be a persona (just look at MF Doom, his persona wears a mask and he even has other people do his shows sometimes). When you watch an action movie with lots of violence, most people don't immediately say that the movie is condoning the violence in it, or that the actors are violent people. Many modern day rappers are just that... actors who are playing a roll, trying to entertain. They even keep in character for interviews, etc because that's helping them sell records.

And finally as has been said previously...you can't base your entire opinion of a genre of music on what radio's play. They have one goal only, to make money and if they feel violent, shocking rap will get them money...thats exactly what they are gonna play. It sure seems to be working for them.

[quickdodge®]

Hiphop was born in the slums of NYC.

Hip hop was actually born in Africa. This where tribes danced and sang and did poetic spoken word to drum beats and other musical "instruments." Hip hop/rap, as we know/knew it, was born in New York. Later, QD.

[bu villain]

Hip hop was actually born in Africa. This where tribes danced and sang and did poetic spoken word to drum beats and other musical "instruments." Hip hop/rap, as we know/knew it, was born in New York. Later, QD.

What was done in Africa is not hip hop just as singing over a guitar doesn't make something rock or playing a trumpet, drums and a piano doesn't make something jazz. Hip hop is the music related to a culture that has a certain feeling behind it (that of the lower class citizens of new york in the 1970s). Dispute it if you like but no serious music historian would ever claim hip hop started in Africa.

[Rollmodl]

Reall Hip Hop is not on the radio. Most of the good stuff is found in the underground. Here are a few artist and stations to listen to:

Artist
Cesar Comanche
Jean Grae (check out the song, Don't Rush Me)
H.I.S.D
Little Brother
MF Doom
Buckshot
Strange Fruit Project
Spit Syndicate

Radio/Dj's
iTunes Radio - TrueHiphop.FM
iTunes Podcast - DJ Teknision
DJ Peter Rosenberg

Albums for listening
Chemistry - 9th Wonder and Buckshot

Just my contribution to this thread. I use alot of underground music on my website.

[quickdodge®]

Hip hop is the music related to a culture that has a certain feeling behind it (that of the lower class citizens of new york in the 1970s). Dispute it if you like but no serious music historian would ever claim hip hop started in Africa.

Lolol @ this. Mistakes abound. But you have what you think and that's cool. Later, QD.

[VIP Style]

goodness me too! that swag surfin song is so whack.

I get tired of listening to the word "swag" on every song !

[cactusEG]

goodness me too! that swag surfin song is so whack.

I like the beat, but shit after the 3rd time shit got dumb...

[bu villain]

Lolol @ this. Mistakes abound. But you have what you think and that's cool. Later, QD.

Well my knowledge is based on my personal discussions with people who were around and directly involved in the beginning of hip hop. I consider myself a member of the hip hop community and culture and I don't mean that I just listen to the music and go to festivals. If you believe you can teach me more about the culture and music of hip hop, please do so because I will always be a student.

[Total_Blender]

Not even close. There's no rock music that glorifies killing people. Raping women. Calling them every derogatory name in the book..

AxCx, Cannibal Corpse, and other grindcore bands have music that fits that description, but I don't think they are serious about it... its more tongue in cheek.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjMguKlazBg

[quickdodge®]

AxCx, Cannibal Corpse, and other grindcore bands have music that fits that description, but I don't think they are serious about it... its more tongue in cheek.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjMguKlazBg

Well I thought we were talking about more mainstream music. So there! Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

Well my knowledge is based on my personal discussions with people who were around and directly involved in the beginning of hip hop. I consider myself a member of the hip hop community and culture and I don't mean that I just listen to the music and go to festivals. If you believe you can teach me more about the culture and music of hip hop, please do so because I will always be a student.

After reading back through the posts, I see where I left out one important detail. I'm not saying the hip hop started in Africa. But the roots of hip hop do stem from the country. They have done the same type of music for years upon years that hip hop expanded on throughout the 70s. I listen to the original godfather of hip hop, Gil Scott-Heron, along with the Last Poets, quite frequently. They are the ones known to have brought that genre from Africa to America. Then it gave way to what we know as old school hip hop. Later, QD.

[leobond001]

here we go again.

[quickdodge®]

"Here we go" what? Later, QD.

[RL...]

Is it all about trapping,killing,smoking and how much money you have?Every song seems the same just mixed up....explain y people think is awsome to rob people, sell drugs and live in section 8 homes?

Cause if I remember right these were the origional gangsters....



Discuss...

It's not that ppl think it's awesome to rob, rape, and come from bad areas. It's that the rap played on radio talks about the avg americans dream to be rich, popular, successful, and having lots of women. It plays on society's addiction for cheap thrills and immoral acts. We live in a culture where we spend the first 20 or so of out lives in school to essentially make money. Our society teaches us to idolize and want money so it is natural for music to discuss things that most of us want such as woman, cars, and nice houses.

[quickdodge®]

It's not that ppl think it's awesome to rob, rape, and come from bad areas. It's that the rap played on radio talks about the avg americans dream to be rich, popular, successful, and having lots of women. It plays on society's addiction for cheap thrills and immoral acts. We live in a culture where we spend the first 20 or so of out lives in school to essentially make money. Our society teaches us to idolize and want money so it is natural for music to discuss things that most of us want such as woman, cars, and nice houses.

Well your quest to prove that you never know what you're talking about is letting nothing stop you. Later, QD.

[Humphrizzle]

Notorious BIG is the best rapper ever.

edit: in my opinion

[leobond001]

"Here we go" what? Later, QD.

this topic. as much as i love hip hop, i'm tired of defending it because some ppl listen to music they may not agree with. hell all genre's of music has it's flaw, but rap music gets pointed out the most, why? because its the most imitated. society wants to imitate the things of the "hood", then complain about the outcome.

Country music= depressing music
Rock and roll= drug's, sex, money
alternative= skateboarding, tight pants wearing sceen boys
rap/hiphop= drugs, sex, money ( same as another one on hear)