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    Default Priuis with leather seats....WTF?

    Being the worlds ugliest car for douche bags trying to make a statement that they have no taste in vehicles and think they are doing the earth justice by driving this POS.... buy a bicycle.

    my point was i saw one last week w/ leather seats - i was like irony!




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    PS. Most people buy it for the MPG, not to make a statement. I would have killed for one when gas was at $ 4 + LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300
    PS. Most people buy it for the MPG, not to make a statement. I would have killed for one when gas was at $ 4 + LOL
    buy a jetta diesel isn't a new product
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    Or a miata, civic, etc, etc
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    My civic got 30MPG, I miss her already
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlipKing
    Or a miata, civic, etc, etc
    i was thinking TDI but ya any small compact
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    I'm waiting for it to go back up. I hope not but....
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    Yeah, and all the cars Im looking to get are V8's, minus an Evo... Ouch
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlipKing
    I'm waiting for it to go back up. I hope not but....

    fuck oil prices i bath in crude oil


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul
    buy a jetta diesel isn't a new product
    Buying a diesel compact is such a joke it's not even funny. People buy the Prius to save money on gas. Getting a diesel just makes you have to pay more for fuel to get the same MPG that the Prius does on regular gas. That, and a lot of stations don't even swing diesel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ran
    Buying a diesel compact is such a joke it's not even funny. People buy the Prius to save money on gas. Getting a diesel just makes you have to pay more for fuel to get the same MPG that the Prius does on regular gas. That, and a lot of stations don't even swing diesel.
    what son do some research - europe has been running diesel forever.

    "But," you say, "diesel is more expensive than gasoline." That's true, as of October 12, it's about 37 cents higher per gallon than regular gasoline. And diesel motors are more expensive up front. But we have found that diesel's overall fuel efficiency and durability make it a good investment.

    To find out how diesel stacks up against gas, we decided to pit the 2006 Volkswagen Jetta 2.5, which runs on gasoline, against the diesel-powered Jetta TDI. The 2.5 starts at $20,290, MSRP, and comes with a 2.5 liter, five-cylinder engine, with 150 horsepower. The TDI starts at $22,305, and is equipped with a 1.9 liter, four-cylinder engine, that runs at 100 hp. Both models come standard with a manual transmission.

    According to Environmental Protection Agency estimates, the 2.5 gets 22 mpg city, while the TDI gets 36. As for highway mileage, the 2.5 gets 30 mpg and the TDI gets 41. Assuming you drive in the city 55 percent of the time and travel the highway 45 percent of the time, you'll get a total of thirteen more miles per gallon with the TDI. In addition, the diesel wins for long trips. The 2.5 can only travel 326 miles per tank, while the TDI can go a whopping 496 miles.

    So how does that factor into your gas budget? While it will cost you $4.83 more to fill up the TDI, you'll still save over $300 in fuel per year, assuming you drive 15,000 miles.

    But to get any real savings, you have to stay for the long term. It will take a little over six years to make up for the TDI's higher price tag, assuming current gas prices. But fortunately, diesels are great long-term vehicles. It is not unusual to see a diesel last for 400,000 miles or more. You also won't have to worry about maintaining an electrical starter system, and diesel gas is less corrosive, so your exhaust system will last longer.

    Diesels also fare well against hybrids. USA TODAY reporter David Kiley drove a Volkswagen Jetta TDI from Detroit to Washington, D.C., then took a Toyota Prius for the return trip. He found that the Jetta beat the Prius in fuel efficiency, and reported that the Jetta finished the trip on one tank of fuel, while the Prius couldn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul
    what son do some research - europe has been running diesel forever.
    Europe also likes soccer. Doesn't make it a good decision stateside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ran
    Europe also likes soccer. Doesn't make it a good decision stateside.
    its football/futbol get it straight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul
    its football/futbol get it straight

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    Deisel was just as high as gas and higher at one point, so diesel isnt always better also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett
    Deisel was just as high as gas and higher at one point, so diesel isnt always better also.
    Yeah but a VW TDI getting 50+ MPG is better than a civic getting 30+ MPG when diesel is the same or slightly higher.

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    The jetta clean diesel was not available when I bought my Camry hybrid. You also have to admit - VW is still recovering its image. Their previous generation had all sorts of electrical issues. Consumers will favor Toyota to VW obviously.

    Had the VW been available 1 year earlier, I would have bought it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul
    buy a jetta diesel isn't a new product
    Still won't match the 45/48 mpg.....
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    You guys need to read below \/

    Quote Originally Posted by brett
    Deisel was just as high as gas and higher at one point, so diesel isnt always better also.
    The 2.5 can only travel 326 miles per tank, while the TDI can go a whopping 496 miles.

    So how does that factor into your gas budget? While it will cost you $4.83 more to fill up the TDI, you'll still save over $300 in fuel per year, assuming you drive 15,000 miles.



    Quote Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300
    Still won't match the 45/48 mpg.....
    Diesels also fare well against hybrids. USA TODAY reporter David Kiley drove a Volkswagen Jetta TDI from Detroit to Washington, D.C., then took a Toyota Prius for the return trip. He found that the Jetta beat the Prius in fuel efficiency, and reported that the Jetta finished the trip on one tank of fuel, while the Prius couldn't.

    PS. new TDI are underrated b/c gov regulations won't allow them to state higher numbers - not only better mpg but wai better looking than prius
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    how about everybody just ride scooters.......70mpg. earth friendly FTW!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm-civic
    how about everybody just ride scooters.......70mpg. earth friendly FTW!!!!!
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    Diesel was $1 more per gallon than gas this past winter. Might as well drive the car you want, cause even a prius is going to save the average person $200-300 a yr. I'd rather waste that couple hundred, and drive something I like spending all that time in.

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    The prius are very clean running cars, we get them in the dealer all the time with 50k+ miles and the inside of the exhaust are still clean. No black soot.

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    My friend got one fully loaded.. Cost her over $30k..

    Leather everything, GPS, parking aid, etc.. etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul
    Being the worlds ugliest car for douche bags trying to make a statement that they have no taste in vehicles and think they are doing the earth justice by driving this POS.... buy a bicycle.

    my point was i saw one last week w/ leather seats - i was like irony!




    There are a lot of just as ugly gas only cars.

    Oh and I drive a hybrid, with leather...and other things... Here it is on the left.



    I do 0-60 right over 5 seconds, 13s in the 1/4. When I floor it I'm getting 20 MPG and when I stretch it anywhere from 28-33 MPG. 26 on Average.

    It has 340hp and the passing power is insane b/c of the torque from the batteries.

    What crazier is its seamless. The only way I can tell what is being used (engine/batteries/both) is looking at the screen. I can drive around up to 20 MPH on battery only, drive-bys ftw lol

    Biggest drawbacks? The trunk is small b/c of the rear battery, it weighs 4100 lbs b/c of the batteries and the CVT+ instant power is so fun, its hard to not drive it efficiently.

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    Prius does not save money! It takes 6 years make the money back from the high initial investment.. Oh and right when you though you were going to save money after 6 years of waiting, you need new batteries which cost a fortune!

    What a bad investment..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frög
    Prius does not save money! It takes 6 years make the money back from the high initial investment.. Oh and right when you though you were going to save money after 6 years of waiting, you need new batteries which cost a fortune!

    What a bad investment..
    1. Most cars are NOT an investment.
    2. It depends on how much you drive. THe more you drive, the more gas you potentially save.
    3. It runs cleaner than any other cars around. Less emissions.

    The new one gets 50 MPG average. Some people are claiming 60 MPG once they don't speed. That is amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm-civic
    how about everybody just ride scooters.......70mpg. earth friendly FTW!!!!!
    70MPG maybe, but they still pollute more than a prius because they sorely lack the technology that controlls the combustion in such a way that it reduces pollution.

    Its a nightmare to drive behind one of these 50-150cc nasties. My car's exhaust smells 10x cleaner with 50x the engine displacement. and 5x fuel usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul
    You guys need to read below \/



    The 2.5 can only travel 326 miles per tank, while the TDI can go a whopping 496 miles.

    So how does that factor into your gas budget? While it will cost you $4.83 more to fill up the TDI, you'll still save over $300 in fuel per year, assuming you drive 15,000 miles.





    Diesels also fare well against hybrids. USA TODAY reporter David Kiley drove a Volkswagen Jetta TDI from Detroit to Washington, D.C., then took a Toyota Prius for the return trip. He found that the Jetta beat the Prius in fuel efficiency, and reported that the Jetta finished the trip on one tank of fuel, while the Prius couldn't.

    PS. new TDI are underrated b/c gov regulations won't allow them to state higher numbers - not only better mpg but wai better looking than prius

    But the TDI won't give you a 'tax break' will it?
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    i miss my vx civic 46 mpg city and around 53mpg hwy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frög
    Prius does not save money! It takes 6 years make the money back from the high initial investment.. Oh and right when you though you were going to save money after 6 years of waiting, you need new batteries which cost a fortune!

    What a bad investment..
    You know that the Prius has an 8 year / 100K miles warranty on the battery?

    You can take it in at 7years 11 months or 99,999 miles, and get it replaced at no cost if it fails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300
    But the TDI won't give you a 'tax break' will it?
    you wont' need it when you can buy 20+ year old technology - or convert to vegetable oil conversion
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
    1. Most cars are NOT an investment.
    2. It depends on how much you drive. THe more you drive, the more gas you potentially save.
    3. It runs cleaner than any other cars around. Less emissions.

    The new one gets 50 MPG average. Some people are claiming 60 MPG once they don't speed. That is amazing.
    1. Not true, the prius is an investment to save money.. You are spending the extra cash to save, but you dont.. It is an investment..
    2. Not true again, the batteries life go by hours, the more you drive, the sooner you will need to change those batteries..
    3. Not true again.. The prius really isn't all that environmentally friendly.. Disposing the car and the batteries, and considering the negative effects of building the car..

    http://blog.leasetrader.com/archive/...ly-than-a.aspx

    If you want to save money and help the environment, get a Diesel Jetta..


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    I don't think I agree with your there Fro(umlaut)g.

    The Prius and other hybrids meet much higher tier emission standards than the average car to begin with. So I believe that a 40mpg hybrid's net output of pollution is lower than that of another car with the same 40mpg.

    Batteries: The hybrid system does not drain/recharge the batteries on a full duty cycle. When the hybrid battery is on "Empty" - its actually at 80% capacity. The batteries are shallow drained to improve their longevity and many estimates say they will last 15 years. The same Prius we buy here has a 10 year, 150000 mile warranty in California (and Cali only).

    These are NiMH batteries are they are much cleaner and safer than the Nickel Cadmium batteries of the past. Besides the Nickel is easily recycled and can be used to make new batteries. I've heard people bitch about nickel mining etc - but I didnt see any real evidence when I googled it. Even if it is nasty, the nickel can be recycled 100% from old batteries.

    However I believe battery technology is in the stone ages right now. With more money going into batteries - I think we will start to see battery capacity grow 2x/weight and volume in the next 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300
    You know that the Prius has an 8 year / 100K miles warranty on the battery?

    You can take it in at 7years 11 months or 99,999 miles, and get it replaced at no cost if it fails.
    Yep! the more recent models.. But w/e, the prius is not money well spent.. Seriously, a diesel jetta is the way to go!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlblkz06
    I don't think I agree with your there Fro(umlaut)g.

    The Prius and other hybrids meet much higher tier emission standards than the average car to begin with. So I believe that a 40mpg hybrid's net output of pollution is lower than that of another car with the same 40mpg.

    Batteries: The hybrid system does not drain/recharge the batteries on a full duty cycle. When the hybrid battery is on "Empty" - its actually at 80% capacity. The batteries are shallow drained to improve their longevity and many estimates say they will last 15 years. The same Prius we buy here has a 10 year, 150000 mile warranty in California (and Cali only).

    These are NiMH batteries are they are much cleaner and safer than the Nickel Cadmium batteries of the past. Besides the Nickel is easily recycled and can be used to make new batteries. I've heard people bitch about nickel mining etc - but I didnt see any real evidence when I googled it. Even if it is nasty, the nickel can be recycled 100% from old batteries.

    However I believe battery technology is in the stone ages right now. With more money going into batteries - I think we will start to see battery capacity grow 2x/weight and volume in the next 5 years.
    Ok, maybe I exaggerated a little, but in the end diesel Jetta > Prius, Yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frög
    Ok, maybe I exaggerated a little, but in the end diesel Jetta > Prius, Yes?
    Ja.

    It's too bad the Deutchlanders couldn't get those 09 TDIs schneller by a few months or I'd be driving one. Diesel FTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlblkz06
    Ja.

    It's too bad the Deutchlanders couldn't get those 09 TDIs schneller by a few months or I'd be driving one. Diesel FTW.
    just get a mkiv or mkv tdi
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    Quote Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300
    You know that the Prius has an 8 year / 100K miles warranty on the battery?

    You can take it in at 7years 11 months or 99,999 miles, and get it replaced at no cost if it fails.
    But if it fails at 8 years 1 day or 100,001 miles, you're fucked.

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