Drake, the future of hip-hop

[lawguy85]

I'm reluctant to share this since I'm the only person in Atlanta riding to this, but this kid is to nice to sleep on. His name is Drake, and he got that fyiah! I kid, I kid. He's like Lupe, with a little Hove and Kanye thrown in. He's Wayne's protege, Drama has cosigned him, basically he's about to blow. His current mixtape is called "So Far Gone." Wayne is on half the tracks, but Drake kills him on most of them. Two tracks to look out for are "Successful" and "Congratulations". I guarantee that "Successful" will be your new riding song. "Congratulations" is sick b/c he samples "Vida La Vida" and makes it work.

Aight, I'm done hyping this kid up.

The mixtape:
http://www.datpiff.com/Drake_So_Far_Gone.m34130.html

"Successful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kcDpsjbCok

[allmotorX]

i been listening to his song called best i ever had for the last few days

[quickdodge®]

His current mixtape is called "So Far Gone." Wayne is on half the tracks, but Drake kills him on most of them.

Shouldn't be that hard to do. Later, QD.

[SiLkY_JohnSon]

i feel you on that boy drake, he is a fool and he do go way harder than wayne now, he going to the top with no problem plus he a rapper turn singer

[The Ninja]

Been on him for a minute, he also got this one track on the mixtape called "Unstoppable", that shit is crazy. The mixtape is real slow though, like ridin music. Also somethin' decent to play if you kickin' it with some females.

Theres this one track where he hops on the Kanye "Say You Will" beat, that shit is hard.


Also, check out B.O.B. I know he dropped that "Haterz" song, but it seems like he understands he can use club bangers to fund real skill. He has a few songs, some good smoking songs, some songs so good they're fuckin depressing if you listen to the story. He has some funny skits and shit too. The name if his mixtape is "Hi My Name Is B.O.B.(Bob)". The shit is good.

Songs I like are:
Lonely People
Grip Yo Body
Cloud Nine (Smoking song)
Use Ur Love
Room 34
Sing My Song
Middle of the Day (Smoking song)

There are few other good tracks, but seriously, if he took the best tracks from this mixtape and made an album, I'm sure he would have blown up.

[uproot]

Wayne's protege?





No thanks.

[The Ninja]

Wayne's protege?





No thanks.

You should give him a chance before you shoot it down. I'm sure you would find at least 1 track you enjoy.

[uproot]

You should give him a chance before you shoot it down. I'm sure you would find at least 1 track you enjoy.

Yeah, I'm checking him out right now to see whats up, I just really don't like wayne and hope he's not like him...

[The Ninja]

He's not, he's a completely different sound.

[Vteckidd]

Kid Cuddi

/thread

[lawguy85]

Yeah, I'm checking him out right now to see whats up, I just really don't like wayne and hope he's not like him...

By protege I meant Wayne is getting his foot in the door and showing him the business. The guy sold the most record last year, so he's pretty much the guy to know in the rap game. I hate to sound like I'm on this guys nuts, but I figured instead of bitching about clowns like Soulja Boy or complaining that hip hop is dead I'd present a counterpoint. This kid and Asher Roth are the future, and with a all Yeezy produced Blueprint 3 and Lupe's new album around the same time coming this year the game will be okay.

[The Ninja]

By protege I meant Wayne is getting his foot in the door and showing him the business. The guy sold the most record last year, so he's pretty much the guy to know in the rap game. I hate to sound like I'm on this guys nuts, but I figured instead of bitching about clowns like Soulja Boy or complaining that hip hop is dead I'd present a counterpoint. This kid and Asher Roth are the future, and with a all Yeezy produced Blueprint 3 and Lupe's new album around the same time coming this year the game will be okay.

Have some green.

[quickdodge®]

Have some green.

Counter-attacked by some red. Lolol. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

By protege I meant Wayne is getting his foot in the door and showing him the business.

That's not a "protege," then.

complaining that hip hop is dead I'd present a counterpoint.

Why not show someone that has a chance to help bring it back?

This kid and Asher Roth are the future, and with a all Yeezy produced Blueprint 3 and Lupe's new album around the same time coming this year the game will be okay.

R.I.P. hip hop. Later, QD.

[The Ninja]

Damn, QD, cold blooded. I saw he was in the red and decided to be nice, LMFAO. Smashed his shit.

[.blank cd]

Kid Cuddi

/thread

x436!


This guy is pretty good, he needs to get some better beats and get off the windows free drum machine

[lawguy85]

That's not a "protege," then.



Why not show someone that has a chance to help bring it back?



R.I.P. hip hop. Later, QD.

I'm celebrating an hour in the green, so I won't go to hard.

1st, straight from Websters: protege: one who is protected or trained or whose career is furthered by a person of experience, prominence, or influence. Wayne scooped him up, so rappers not named Gille Da Kid won't beef with him because that means they are beefing with the most popular rapper today. He can also go places he couldn't before, like the VMAs where Wayne used his verse, so his career has definitely been furthered. It's pretty obvious that he's Wayne's protege going by the definition, or by the fact that Jae Millz, Wayne, and Drake himself have all said it. I'll leave that alone.

2nd, the people I mentioned all have a chance to bring hip hop back because of their broad appeal. They ain't talking about bricks, weight, straps, or any of that nonsense. They spit about life. College was 2 years ago for me, so I'd rather listen to the Beastie Boy 2.0 aka Asher Roth talk about drinking and chasing chicks than OJ da Juiceman trying to convince Atlanta that he was one of the few people who actually move major weight. Say what you want about Kanye; he literally certifiable, but the guy makes hits, not beats. The best producer alive, Yeezy, plus the best rapper alive, Hova, thats history. If that alone isn't bringing hip hop back I don't know what is.

Lastly, I don't know the particular person I mentioned that made you sure that hip hop is indeed dead, but I'll just list songs that aren't just rap songs, they're messages that transcend music.
Asher Roth: "The Lounge"
Jay-Z: "Ignorant Shit"
Lupe Fiasco: "Little Weapon"
Like "The Message" was nearly 30 years ago, these are anthems that prove rapping isn't just a fad, its a art form when performed to its fullest potential.

One parting question, if hip hop is dead, whats gonna replace it?

[quickdodge®]

[QUOTE=lawguy85]
Lastly, I don't know the particular person I mentioned that made you sure that hip hop is indeed dead, but I'll just list songs that aren't just rap songs, they're messages that transcend music.
Asher Roth: "The Lounge"
Jay-Z: "Ignorant Shit"
Lupe Fiasco: "Little Weapon"
Like "The Message" was nearly 30 years ago, these are anthems that prove rapping isn't just a fad, its a art form when performed to its fullest potential.


Putting words on my monitor, are we? I never said it was dead. I said it is on it's last leg. What the hail do you mean by "rapping isn't just a fad?" No one said that either. Fads don't last 30 years, man. These are not "anthems." They're just more tracks that will fade into obscurity. Rap will still be around. Just not nearly as big as it has been in the last decade. You honestly can't tell that rap is losing it's appeal? Read my other thread where I explain my thoughts on the future of rap in better detail.

One parting question, if hip hop is dead, whats gonna replace it?

What music form died and gave rap the chance to replace it? Nothing. It just came about through experimentation. If rap were to die, then we'd be left with whatever is out there and whoever comes up with some other form of music making skills. Later, QD.

[lawguy85]

What music form died and gave rap the chance to replace it? Nothing. It just came about through experimentation. If rap were to die, then we'd be left with whatever is out there and whoever comes up with some other form of music making skills. Later, QD.[/QUOTE]

Disco. Rap started in Disco clubs, and the latter died.

[Vteckidd]

ehhh rap evolves and changes.

There is still alot of HIP HOP out there, like Cuddi, Drake, Bishop Lamont, Lupe, Talib, Mos, etc

RAP, like any other form of music, has become COMMERCIALIZED, so the innovation somewhat dies when that happens. I mean look at lil wayne, he ,imo, is prob one of the worst rappers around and he had the biggest album this year. His voice sucks, his beats suck ,etc. Now i have heard him on some mixtapes, and his lyrics are 100 times better than anything on his albums, but again, the MAINSTREAM wants to hear hits, club bangers, stuff that has no soul.

the last real album i bought and liked every track was get rich or die tryin. IMO that was the last album that had heart and was gritty.

[lawguy85]

ehhh rap evolves and changes.

There is still alot of HIP HOP out there, like Cuddi, Drake, Bishop Lamont, Lupe, Talib, Mos, etc

RAP, like any other form of music, has become COMMERCIALIZED, so the innovation somewhat dies when that happens. I mean look at lil wayne, he ,imo, is prob one of the worst rappers around and he had the biggest album this year. His voice sucks, his beats suck ,etc. Now i have heard him on some mixtapes, and his lyrics are 100 times better than anything on his albums, but again, the MAINSTREAM wants to hear hits, club bangers, stuff that has no soul.

the last real album i bought and liked every track was get rich or die tryin. IMO that was the last album that had heart and was gritty.

You took the words out of my mouth.

[quickdodge®]

Disco. Rap started in Disco clubs, and the latter died.

Lolol. Ok, man. You've definitely shown me you know your music, lolol. Later, QD.

[lawguy85]

Lolol. Ok, man. You've definitely shown me you know your music, lolol. Later, QD.

I don't know if thats sarcasm with all the lols, but look it up dude. Seriously, have you seen the "Rappers Delight" video? That shit is in the discotheque!! Anyway, this is way off topic, and I don't feel like addressing it anymore.

[BobbyFresco]

I was going to make a thread about Drizzy Drake but you beat me to it...This dude is crazy sick.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7JqTbim4Vc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQwGyDvCUZc

[AirMax95]

BFresh.....retire that sig.

If I laugh again at work I may get fired, lol!

[SLOWLYbtngU]

I'm reluctant to share this since I'm the only person in Atlanta riding to this

Wow... Seriously? Go to Clark, everyone is blasting this out of their dorm rooms. I been listening to it in my car for the last 3 weeks or so... Only person...wow...

[BobbyFresco]

BFresh.....retire that sig.

If I laugh again at work I may get fired, lol!

LOL...but I JUST got it...lmao...

[leobond001]

yeah, they all been out for a while, they've just been getting more steam since the xxl freshmen issue. all of them were nice nice with the exception of ace hood. booo

oh and if you guys like that. Wale is gonna be in town this week or next week i think

[BLACK_EK9]

Drake is super talented not sure if he is the future but his sound is where hip hop has to venture to next

[quickdodge®]

I don't know if thats sarcasm with all the lols, but look it up dude. Seriously, have you seen the "Rappers Delight" video? That shit is in the discotheque!! Anyway, this is way off topic, and I don't feel like addressing it anymore.

Trust me, it was straight sarcasm. You weren't anywhere close to being knowledgeable about music until probably the late 90s. I was around, listening to the shit when it first came to be. So you base everything about rap and it's history on Rapper's Delight? You have a lot to learn, man. You should sit with me sometime. I could tell you things that would make you think..goddamn this dude is white?

And of course you don't want to address it anymore. You know I know what's up. That's why you didn't respond to my thread about hip hop. You know. Later, QD.

[Vteckidd]

Trust me, it was straight sarcasm. You weren't anywhere close to being knowledgeable about music until probably the late 90s. I was around, listening to the shit when it first came to be. So you base everything about rap and it's history on Rapper's Delight? You have a lot to learn, man. You should sit with me sometime. I could tell you things that would make you think..goddamn this dude is white?

And of course you don't want to address it anymore. You know I know what's up. That's why you didn't respond to my thread about hip hop. You know. Later, QD.

Qd spit the troof! I'd like to hear what it was like from an og

[AirMax95]

Trust me, it was straight sarcasm. You weren't anywhere close to being knowledgeable about music until probably the late 90s. I was around, listening to the shit when it first came to be. So you base everything about rap and it's history on Rapper's Delight? You have a lot to learn, man. You should sit with me sometime. I could tell you things that would make you think..goddamn this dude is white?

And of course you don't want to address it anymore. You know I know what's up. That's why you didn't respond to my thread about hip hop. You know. Later, QD.

QD, would you be so kind as to hip us to the origin of rap? Make a music thread and sticky it.

Thank you, oh gracious one.

[lawguy85]

Trust me, it was straight sarcasm. You weren't anywhere close to being knowledgeable about music until probably the late 90s. I was around, listening to the shit when it first came to be. So you base everything about rap and it's history on Rapper's Delight? You have a lot to learn, man. You should sit with me sometime. I could tell you things that would make you think..goddamn this dude is white?

And of course you don't want to address it anymore. You know I know what's up. That's why you didn't respond to my thread about hip hop. You know. Later, QD.

You're right, I was 4 when NWA came on the scene, and I wasn't even born when "The Message" dropped, but there are these things called documentaries and book that enable me school the un-schoolable. You are inevitably talking about the sound of rap which will always be pervasive in popular music because it has been usurped by pop music artist. I am talking about the GENRE, when people decided to put the sound that blended reggae, soul, tribal beats, etc. and put it on a record (and "Rappers Delight" was the first rap record). That shit didn't blow up and become know until it hit the Discos. Of course the sound didn't come from Disco. But, for bette or for worse, it was the Disco clubs where rap was played in its infancy, and it was the death of Disco that allowed Hip Hop to emerge as a new genre. Hit up something not named Wikipedia and get back at me.

And color doesn't mean anything in rap or Rick Reuben wouldn't be one of the greatest producers of all time and em wouldn't be one of the greatest splitters.

Don't get it twisted, just because I'm new to IA doesn't mean I'm noob. I grew up on Arrested Development, and by the "late 90s" they were pretty irrelevant.

[quickdodge®]

I am talking about the GENRE, when people decided to put the sound that blended reggae, soul, tribal beats, etc. and put it on a record (and "Rappers Delight" was the first rap record). That shit didn't blow up and become know until it hit the Discos. Of course the sound didn't come from Disco. But, for bette or for worse, it was the Disco clubs where rap was played in its infancy, and it was the death of Disco that allowed Hip Hop to emerge as a new genre.

Contrary to popula.....eerrr, I mean [b]YOUR[/b[ belief, Disco did NOT give way to hip hop. Just because the two are associated, one did not beget the other. If you really want to relate hip hop to something,go with old school (at that time new) R&B and rock music.

Hit up something not named Wikipedia and get back at me.

I think the Wiki thing is more your thing seeing as how I, as I said before, grew up with this. Not sure how I could make it any more plain. I don't have to use Wiki to reference what I already know by actually being there. Lolol @ your stupidity.

And color doesn't mean anything in rap or Rick Reuben wouldn't be one of the greatest producers of all time and em wouldn't be one of the greatest splitters.

Here's where you're showing your lack of knowledge. Rick? Yes. Fem? No.

Don't get it twisted, just because I'm new to IA doesn't mean I'm noob.

You are a "noob." To the old school hip hop. The real hip hop. A "noob" in the learning process. If you want to learn from someone who lived rap's inception into the music world, I invite you, again, to chat with me sometime. But I'm sure you know it all already and I don't know anything about it. Later, QD.

[lawguy85]

Contrary to popula.....eerrr, I mean [b]YOUR[/b[ belief, Disco did NOT give way to hip hop. Just because the two are associated, one did not beget the other. If you really want to relate hip hop to something,go with old school (at that time new) R&B and rock music.



I think the Wiki thing is more your thing seeing as how I, as I said before, grew up with this. Not sure how I could make it any more plain. I don't have to use Wiki to reference what I already know by actually being there. Lolol @ your stupidity.



Here's where you're showing your lack of knowledge. Rick? Yes. Fem? No.



You are a "noob." To the old school hip hop. The real hip hop. A "noob" in the learning process. If you want to learn from someone who lived rap's inception into the music world, I invite you, again, to chat with me sometime. But I'm sure you know it all already and I don't know anything about it. Later, QD.

Alright, gloves off. Man, just because something is old neither makes it "good"
nor "true". Even if I were to concede that I don't have your depth of knowledge in the history does not mean I don't know "good" and "true" hip hop when I see it. What I'm trying to get across to you is that I've heard most of the stuff from the 80s, own most of the stuff from the 90s, and hate most of the stuff from the last 5 years probably as much as you. But, I choose not to watch music videos and listen to the radio and getting my music from mixtapes and lesser known artist. I love Eric B and Rakim, but the Shante records are garbage. Brand Nubian, KRS-One, and Public Enemy were good, but, just like today, there was a whole lot of garbage out there. You hate on Eminem, but the guy can "rap". I didn't call him a lyricist, because he doesn't kill you with his words, it's his delivery. And I'm referring to the guy who ripped it on "The Anthem" (the King Sway and Tech version) and the guy who ate Jay-Z on his own song "Renegade". I can keep going dude. You don't listen to Little Brother, Masta Killa, A Tribe Called Quest, or C-N-N if you don't know shit about rap. Like the crazy girl on MARTA said, "I'm on my shit".

[quickdodge®]

Alright, gloves off. Man, just because something is old neither makes it "good"
nor "true".

I never said everything back in rap's early days was good. Not sure where you pulled that from. And the true part. Huh? If it happened, it happened. Ergo it's true. The artists you name are, in the hip hop world, are true classics. But you've got to go back even further to reach into the depths. We're taking Spoonie G, the Disco Three, Ultramagnetic MCs, Bizzy Bee and the like. Stuff you can't find in Wiki. It's just a shame that you think my "arguments" come from Wikipedia and not from my own experiences. This is one thing I do take care of and that's to make sure I know what I'm talking about when I talk. If I don't know about it, I don't speak on it like I do.

But I'm with you....gloves off. It's all good. Later, QD.

[lawguy85]

Yeah, wikipedia is just my boilerplate insult. Whenever I insult someone I throw wikipedia out because of how wildly inaccurate it can be. I don't even know what the argument is at this point; I know some shit, you know more, but it doesn't really take away from my knoweledge. From the knoweledge I have I feel safe in saying that Drake's gonna blow.

[quickdodge®]

Yeah, wikipedia is just my boilerplate insult. Whenever I insult someone I throw wikipedia out because of how wildly inaccurate it can be. I don't even know what the argument is at this point; I know some shit, you know more, but it doesn't really take away from my knoweledge. From the knoweledge I have I feel safe in saying that Drake's gonna blow.

Lolol @ Wiki comment. There you go, man. And I know you know a bit. We'd have to get more in depth to see what you really know, lolol. But I can take your word for it, homeboy.

But if I were a betting dude, I'd bet you that this cat doesn't go anywhere. And I mean anywhere as in all over the map like Wayne. I think he'll be a 2-3 hit wonder and tossed aside in a year or so. That just seems to be the way of the rapper these days.

But we'll see, huh? Later, QD.

[cjhutch]

You not the only one listening. I posted a quick note about him in a post I made a while back. No one cared so no replies. is he the future? Nope, I think Jay Electronica is way ahead of him lyrically. Also check out P.O.S. because he's been doing it for a while and kills it on almost every track. I came across Blu not too long ago and he dropped a mixtape a while back that's getting heavy play in the ride right now. Let me know if you got some other good stuff, because I've got a ton of good rap music and always looking for more.

As far as knowing the roots of rap music, I'm only 24 so I wasn't able to live it from the beginning, but I've done my research and I've sat down and talked with pioneers of rap music. A few years back I got to know some of the people that run the Sedgwick and Cedar clothing line while I was at MAGIC. If you don't know where they got the name for their line without doing a "google search" then you don't know about the roots of hip hop. It was amazing talking to these guys and having Mele Mel there talking about how big some of the parties got.

QD, would you happen to have some old vinyl of the L Brothers or Kid Creole? I keep finding stuff but they are scratched beyond belief.

[Alan®]

ehhh rap evolves and changes.

There is still alot of HIP HOP out there, like Cuddi, Drake, Bishop Lamont, Lupe, Talib, Mos, etc

RAP, like any other form of music, has become COMMERCIALIZED, so the innovation somewhat dies when that happens. I mean look at lil wayne, he ,imo, is prob one of the worst rappers around and he had the biggest album this year. His voice sucks, his beats suck ,etc. Now i have heard him on some mixtapes, and his lyrics are 100 times better than anything on his albums, but again, the MAINSTREAM wants to hear hits, club bangers, stuff that has no soul.

the last real album i bought and liked every track was get rich or die tryin. IMO that was the last album that had heart and was gritty.

Agreed. Although while I like Get Rich or Die Tryin, I think that The Black Album blows it out of the water and watches it suffocate to death while pointing and laughing at it.