huh, the lions want vick?
maybe someone knows if this is true or not, but i heard the lions will be pursuing michael vick in the off season. man im pushing for vick after all he has been through, he deserves a second shot. he was not a bad QB, i seen him make some great on the money throws and its not his fault if his weak supporting cast drops the ball. besides its people out there doing far worse things than him. this whole situation was overkill, so i hope he rises above all the haters.
I agree with everything but the "overkill" comment. Later, QD.Originally Posted by VIP Style
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you dont think 23 months was too harsh for that?
More on the lenient side to me. Later, QD.
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I'm not one of these people who thinks Vick should be killed because of his actions, but I will say that he deserved every bit of time he served (and then some). I just hope he's learned his lesson and turned his previously garbage life around. To have such a gift of athleticism and then jeopardize it by participating in stupid (and highly fucked up) activities...
Whatever, I'm glad we got Ryan
yeah im happy for ryan as well, and yeah i dont think dog fighting is cool, because i have seen this this take place out in the country and its crazy. but how much was vick really involved in this, i have not seen any video or photo evidence. but yeah he is paying his debt to society so i think he deserves to come back and earn his living. i cant stand folks who still asking for his head, you know.I'm not one of these people who thinks Vick should be killed because of his actions, but I will say that he deserved every bit of time he served (and then some). I just hope he's learned his lesson and turned his previously garbage life around. To have such a gift of athleticism and then jeopardize it by participating in stupid (and highly fucked up) activities...
Whatever, I'm glad we got Ryan
Perfect post! Reps.I'm not one of these people who thinks Vick should be killed because of his actions, but I will say that he deserved every bit of time he served (and then some). I just hope he's learned his lesson and turned his previously garbage life around. To have such a gift of athleticism and then jeopardize it by participating in stupid (and highly fucked up) activities...
Whatever, I'm glad we got Ryan
I agree with this as well. Let him pay his debt and, if he's truly repentant, let him be. But Vick is purely responsible as it was his property. Just like riding in a car with occupants. If your passenger does throws something out the window or is disruptive to an illegal extent, then the driver is ultimately responsible. Later, QD.
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ive said this all along, he WILL play in the NFL again. Do the falcons still own his contract? if they do, they will try to get top dollar for him i bet.
I cant see him being a QB though, i think hes going to end up as a wide receiver if he fails at his next QB job.
Personally i think he will go play european ball for a season to see if hes still got it. then he will come back to the NFL.
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oh and he was an idiot and deserved all this IMO.
He was a MILLIONAIRE, why would you associate yourself with these kind of illegal and inhumane activities.
it was like Allen Iverson getting caught with guns and weed, in his BENTLEY. I mean, how stupid do you have to be to crawl out of the slums and be a millionaire set for life and still tote illegal firearms and drugs.
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You can get out of the hood, but you can't get the hood out of you lol. When someone grows up with that lifestyle it never changes.
And with Vick, the guy got what he deserved plain and simple. I think he should be allowed to return, he really is one of the greatest athletes to play the game. It would be interesting to see him with the new and improved Falcons, but I think Atlanta has definitely moved on for the better. And the Lions wanting him wouldn't surprise me, but they are going to need a lot more than Vick to save their asses. It was terrible to see that happen to him, however it was worse to see that he was dumb enough to involve himself with something so stupid.
Damn. You edited it to what I was going to say about your comment, lolol. Later, QD.
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Send Calvin Johnson down and they can have Vick.. absolutely.
I think he'll end up with the Raiders though.. in a dream world I wish he would go to Tampa Bay but Atlanta would never allow that.
The thought of Matt Ryan connecting with Calvin Johnson makes me happy.
Holy shit....Calvin Johnson on the Falcons would be SICK. White+Johnson+Finneran=win.
this is no excuse for Vick's actions but if his cousin never violated his probation, the police would never have came to his property that day to get his cousin (next thing you know, the Police are all over the house)
This is true and even though dog fighting is wrong, come on!! There are WAYYYY Other worse shit than that!! Only the haters and freaking so called animal saviors prowl on this! Dont get me started on Brady and a certain falcon player! Murderers,Rapists,Kidnappers,Child Molestors etc,etc,etc those people are a REAL problem! but we all KNOW what that whole Vick thing was about anyway now dont we.
Anyway Vick and Calvin Johnson is a much better combo than ryan and Johnson IMO.
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if you are trying to say this was racially motivated you are barking up the wrong tree.
You do know this wasnt just about Dog Fighting right? there was illegal gambling too. This was not just 1 incident, this was an ORGANIZED ring of thugs.
JULY 17--NFL star Michael Vick was indicted today on a federal conspiracy charge for his alleged role in a dog fighting venture that operated from a Virginia property owned by the Atlanta Falcons quarterback. A copy of the indictment, filed today in U.S. District Court in Richmond, can be found below. The 27-year-old Vick, whose nickname is listed as "Ookie" in the indictment, allegedly established the Bad Newz Kennels in early-2001 in Smithfield, Virginia. It was this property, for which Vick paid $34,000, that the star athlete and his codefendants used as the "main staging area for housing and training the pit bulls involved in the dog fighting venture and hosting dog fights." According to prosecutors, Vick and his cohorts began purchasing pit bull puppies in late-2001 and would eventually "sponsor" individual dog fights with purses as high as $26,000. In the indictment's most harrowing parts, federal investigators describe what happened to some Bad Newz Kennels dogs that either lost matches or did not perform well in test fights. After a March 2003 loss by a female pit bull, codefendant Purnell Peace, "after consulting with Vick," electrocuted the animal. In April, prosecutors allege, Vick, Peace, and Quanis Phillips, "executed approximately 8 dogs that did not perform well in 'testing' sessions." These animals, the indictment claims, were killed "by various methods, including hanging, drowning, and slamming at least one dog's body to the ground."
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i still dont think he should be allowed in the NFL,these guys make top dollar to play a game and be children's role models and heros.........vick set a hella of example for them
all igot to say if he comes back,he better stay away from my Bills and the Falcons
Who said anything about race?
i thought it was an automatic ban from the nfl to participate in any form of illegal gambling or anything that reflected poorly on the league? maybe i never heard the followup to the nfl's decision on vick but i figured his career was toast
Read Much?Who said anything about race?
Notice how i said: IFbut we all KNOW what that whole Vick thing was about anyway now dont we.
i dont know what his last sentence was supposed to mean, so i said IF.
calm down
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Dog fighting and illegal gambling?
It looks as if you're trying to implicate race in the situation, and if that is the case, I'm implicating that you gtfo.
Until someone shows so actual evidence that vick was the ni99a behind it all, placing bets and organizing the fights, I say its bullshyt!
A dog is a phucking petty animal! There is no way you can justify amost 2 years in jail, stripped of your rights, for "being involved in dog fights & illegal gambling"!
Were any peopel hurt? Would you consider him a threat 2 society? If T.I. Can get off, then any ni99a can get off. They made an example out of him, but that don't make it right.
And vick WILL play QB, and fucking dominate at that. His attorney said he we benching 460 when he saw him last... that monkey is gunna be playing like his freedom depends on it!
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You know that's what that dude was implying.Who said anything about race?
It happened on his property. He is ultimately responsible for everything that goes on there.
If it was A dog, you might be right about his time served. But it wasn't just A animal. He deserved everything he got. And to you, life may not be that precious for other species but, thank goodness, you don't run the part of government that handles this stuff.
BTW, TI didn't get off. He served time as well. Some people really need to get off the Vick Dick. I'm not against Vick at all. I hope he makes a return to the NFL. And I hope he does well. I also hope he doesn't get himself mixed up in this bullshit again. He needs to maintain a better vigil on his extracurricular activities from now on. Later, QD.
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Ryan sucks cockI'm not one of these people who thinks Vick should be killed because of his actions, but I will say that he deserved every bit of time he served (and then some). I just hope he's learned his lesson and turned his previously garbage life around. To have such a gift of athleticism and then jeopardize it by participating in stupid (and highly fucked up) activities...
Whatever, I'm glad we got Ryan
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Eh....I agree with most of this threads responses.
I will say, not in a racially motivated way, that Vick was an example for ALL athletes. It needed to be done! As Mike said earlier, you are a MILLIONAIRE x2! There is no reason at ALL that you should be doing dumb shit. Hell, if I liked dog fighting that much, I would have someone biuld me the baddest interactive dog fighting game EVER! Online play across the world!
Ok, a little over board, but you get my point. Now maybe all the other knuckleheads will stop and realize that it can happen to ANYONE!
lol i really dont think ryan is all that great either
same damn thing i was thinking throughout this whole ordeal, just like all these other idiot ball players who are doing stupid 'hood' things just to keep up their street cred? i mean come on its ridiculous. but i do agree in him getting a second chance, if he screws up twice, then thats on him
You are a idiot. You act so cavlier about dogs being murdered...
Yeah I'm definitely going to have to disagree.
Of course he's not the absolute best right now, but in time he's going to be a beast. But even now I'd say he's doing pretty damn good. The Falcons have a rookie QB starting and they have a winning record. Yeah he's horrible...
okay every time Ryan is pressured he chokes, the teams they have beat aren't great. The teams they loose to are beating his ass, so falcons still won't make the playoffs and Ryan sucks in my book.
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Yeah I guess the Bears game would be the best example of this...
this thread has more nutswingers than the GTR threads
ryan is ok nothing too special, but i see what he saying, look what happen in the buccs game, carolina, and now eagles. these teams are teams in the nfc that we must be able to beat. and about the whole race thing. i dont think this whole vick getting took down was racially motivated, but i do believe that him being a young rich black man added more fuel to the fire, you understand?
if its all bout race...y isnt 75% of the nfl locked up an fined?
and ryan is a rookie QB,and so far one the best rookie QBS in NFL history
maybe u dont like him cause hes white
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whoa, Mike Vick is black?
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all this ranting and raving with no reliable source what so ever.
Vick will come back to the NFL but as for right now arthur blank owns his rights and basically owns his ass.
I thought mick vick was warren moon.. Ok j/k yea that sig is funny.
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