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    I listen to the CB all the time while driving wherever I'm going and I get to listen to a lot of "political experts" talking their shiit on the radio. It's funny to listen to because every last one of them swears they know all about everything political. I love listening to the white redneck fuccs hollering NOT to vote for Obama...."Nobama" is what they bellow.

    I'll be honest and tell you that I'm voting for Obama. And it's not for really any political views because, honesty prevails again, I don't know shiit about politics. Part of me is voting for the dude because I can only imagine what the stupid, white trash people's faces are going to look like when (if) they hear the announcement of Obama's winning. It would be worth four years of whatever just to have that satisfaction of knowing that a black man ran the country. The other part of me votes for him because, I think everyone can agree, that the USA needs a makeover. Badly. Why not start at the top? Obviously the white folks aren't getting it done. Let a black dude run the country and see how it fairs. Make a change at the top of the mountain and watch a possible trickle down effect. It may be good or it may be bad. One way to find out.

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    So you are telling me that you have no clue about where Obama stands on any issues but, are willing to vote for him because the country needs a makeover? I agree that the Bush admin. has been a failure. Bush has acted just like a democrat and doubled the size of government. McCain is not for growing government, he is for reducing government involvement in the economy and letting the private industry regulate itself.

    If Obama gets elected the "change" we get is higher taxes on the rich and more government. Higher taxes on the rich = more jobs moving overseas. If Obama gets elected we also get those higher taxes on the rich passed down to the poor poor pittiful poor that are poor because THEY CHOSE TO BE! In this country everyone has the same opportunity to get an education and live the American dream, some just chose to be lazy and only work their 40 hours a week living paycheck to paycheck. Most of the "evil rich" came from nothing, they didnt inherit the money and they didnt win the lottery. Most of the evil rich worked 80+ hours a week trying to start their own business and become a job provider to the community, wealthy and then get punished for making money!

    Please stay away from the poll's if you have no knowledge on where the candidate you are voting for stands on the issues. Don't believe all of the hype and "change" talk.

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    obama will get shot if he gets president status, thats for sure. by the way, i dont know anyone who will do such a thing, but theres someone out there that will.

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    The most ignorant thing Ive ever seen QD post....To vote for Obama simply because he is black or because out of spite is the exact opposite of what this country needs. If you would of said you agree with his political views then all would be fine because you are entitled to your own opinion and have the right to vote for what you believe in. I hope you are alone in your mindset on politics. You are better off not voting at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6.0GTO
    The most ignorant thing Ive ever seen QD post....To vote for Obama simply because he is black or because out of spite is the exact opposite of what this country needs. If you would of said you agree with his political views then all would be fine because you are entitled to your own opinion and have the right to vote for what you believe in. I hope you are alone in your mindset on politics. You are better off not voting at all.

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    I would also like to add that Obama said that he would eliminate capital gains taxes on small business. This shows his ignorance and inexperience. Small businesses do not pay capital gains taxes!!!!!! This man wants to run a country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JConner
    I agree that the Bush admin. has been a failure. Bush has acted just like a democrat and doubled the size of government. McCain is not for growing government, he is for reducing government involvement in the economy and letting the private industry regulate itself.

    If Obama gets elected the "change" we get is higher taxes on the rich and more government. Higher taxes on the rich = more jobs moving overseas. If Obama gets elected we also get those higher taxes on the rich passed down to the poor poor pittiful poor that are poor because THEY CHOSE TO BE! In this country everyone has the same opportunity to get an education and live the American dream, some just chose to be lazy and only work their 40 hours a week living paycheck to paycheck. Most of the "evil rich" came from nothing, they didnt inherit the money and they didnt win the lottery. Most of the evil rich worked 80+ hours a week trying to start their own business and become a job provider to the community, wealthy and then get punished for making money!

    Please stay away from the poll's if you have no knowledge on where the candidate you are voting for stands on the issues. Don't believe all of the hype and "change" talk.
    You make your arguments with all the acumen of Eric Cartman. Very, very few of the wealthiest 5% in America worked their way up from nothing. Bill Gates sure, but.... who else? Once you start talking about multi-billionaires, thats just more wealth than one person can accrue in a lifetime without starting from an inheritance.

    And most poor people don't choose to be poor. There are a lot of uneducated people in this country due to our horribile education system (math and science have just gone down the ****ter), our draconian criminal justice system, and a job market that make it damn near impossibile for lower level workers to earn a living wage. Sure, there are leeches in the system and there probably always will be. But to make a blanket statement that the entire population of poor people in America are poor because "they choose to be" is just a dumbass thing to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender
    You make your arguments with all the acumen of Eric Cartman. Very, very few of the wealthiest 5% in America worked their way up from nothing. Bill Gates sure, but.... who else? Once you start talking about multi-billionaires, thats just more wealth than one person can accrue in a lifetime without starting from an inheritance.

    And most poor people don't choose to be poor. There are a lot of uneducated people in this country due to our horribile education system (math and science have just gone down the ****ter), our draconian criminal justice system, and a job market that make it damn near impossibile for lower level workers to earn a living wage. Sure, there are leeches in the system and there probably always will be. But to make a blanket statement that the entire population of poor people in America are poor because "they choose to be" is just a dumbass thing to say.
    the whole bit on blaming public education is a load of crap..... i can speek from personal experience...... came up in a poor family, didn't go to college and i graduated from the worst school system in georgia clayton county..... now take a look at me.... i have a car i own free and clear, i owe 50,000 dollars left on my 130,000 dollar house and to top it off i am 23 years old..... if you are poor, in jail, or have 300 baby daddy's or baby mama's thatr is a personal desicion.... the opertunities are out there you just have to get off your lazy ass and work for what you have... i did it and yeah i started off doin **** work but hell you got to start off somewhere.... i have friends that started off bussing tables at resturants and now make good money as a manager..... today people have the mentallity that they are way to good to do some low work and work their way up to the top...... so you sir are the dumbass for blaming the school system, criminal justice system and "impossable job market"
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6.0GTO
    The most ignorant thing Ive ever seen QD post....To vote for Obama simply because he is black or because out of spite is the exact opposite of what this country needs. If you would of said you agree with his political views then all would be fine because you are entitled to your own opinion and have the right to vote for what you believe in. I hope you are alone in your mindset on politics. You are better off not voting at all.
    Lolol @ you. Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
    I listen to the CB all the time while driving wherever I'm going and I get to listen to a lot of "political experts" talking their shiit on the radio. It's funny to listen to because every last one of them swears they know all about everything political. I love listening to the white redneck fuccs hollering NOT to vote for Obama...."Nobama" is what they bellow.

    I'll be honest and tell you that I'm voting for Obama. And it's not for really any political views because, honesty prevails again, I don't know shiit about politics. Part of me is voting for the dude because I can only imagine what the stupid, white trash people's faces are going to look like when (if) they hear the announcement of Obama's winning. It would be worth four years of whatever just to have that satisfaction of knowing that a black man ran the country. The other part of me votes for him because, I think everyone can agree, that the USA needs a makeover. Badly. Why not start at the top? Obviously the white folks aren't getting it done. Let a black dude run the country and see how it fairs. Make a change at the top of the mountain and watch a possible trickle down effect. It may be good or it may be bad. One way to find out.

    The End...of my political involvement. Later, QD.
    You have got to be kidding right? You are pretty much showing you are as bad as the truckers you listen to. Dizzle, You need to check facts son. You wanting a black dude to run it as you say is no different than the truckers saying they wont vote for him cause he is black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6.0GTO
    The most ignorant thing Ive ever seen QD post....To vote for Obama simply because he is black or because out of spite is the exact opposite of what this country needs. If you would of said you agree with his political views then all would be fine because you are entitled to your own opinion and have the right to vote for what you believe in. I hope you are alone in your mindset on politics. You are better off not voting at all.
    I actually will agree on that one.
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    OMG! You scare me... I'm not a person that follows politics, but the presidential election is like the super bowl, everybody gets into it and picks a team. Voting for a canidate without at least a fraction of research is just plain ignorant and your vote is just as bad, actually worse, than those rednecks bellowing Nobama. At least the Rednecks could have researched and found something they like about their canidate that matters besides saying, hey let's roll the dice on the black guy and see what happens. You and people like you scare the sh*t out of me. Your vote and one's like yours are the votes that get the rest of us Screwed in the back by our government.
    I'm not saying you should vote for McCain but if you are gonna vote at least research your canidate and know something that matters about him/her so that your not just rolling the dice. Just plain scary...
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    You know, at first I was gonna critisize him for his sloppiness in decision making as far as politics goes. But if you truely think about it, it was honest. He spoke his mind. He made his point as to why he's doing what he's doing. The sad part about this is that he's not the only one who feels this way as far as 1 particular party goes. We all know that theres always gonna be a group out there who's gonna either always vote (d) or vote (r). Either way, no matter how much it bothers you, you have to respect their decision. That's just like the people who's voting for McCain because they don't wanna see a black man in office. What can you honestly do about it?

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    honestly i don't think there is anything different from QD and the majority of republican posters on this board... i've read so much BS FLUFF and spin to last a lifetime. Republicans haven't established any bit of policy in their speeches or interviews yet. Republican pick for VP was even strategy over who was best for the job. Those are the type of people you want in office - the ones who over promise and don't deliver? Well after 8 years of this sh!t we need a democrat in office.

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    Those of you who think QD is alone in this mindset are blindly being ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogi08
    obama will get shot if he gets president status, thats for sure. by the way, i dont know anyone who will do such a thing, but theres someone out there that will.
    With that being said..... It will show us how "United" Uinted States America really is. Pimpin we really do need a make over McCain honestly isn't a bad pick(besides his health issues) and if I was rich. Using common sense will tell you we dont need any more years of the same policies
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
    I listen to the CB all the time while driving wherever I'm going and I get to listen to a lot of "political experts" talking their shiit on the radio. It's funny to listen to because every last one of them swears they know all about everything political. I love listening to the white redneck fuccs hollering NOT to vote for Obama...."Nobama" is what they bellow.

    I'll be honest and tell you that I'm voting for Obama. And it's not for really any political views because, honesty prevails again, I don't know shiit about politics. Part of me is voting for the dude because I can only imagine what the stupid, white trash people's faces are going to look like when (if) they hear the announcement of Obama's winning. It would be worth four years of whatever just to have that satisfaction of knowing that a black man ran the country. The other part of me votes for him because, I think everyone can agree, that the USA needs a makeover. Badly. Why not start at the top? Obviously the white folks aren't getting it done. Let a black dude run the country and see how it fairs. Make a change at the top of the mountain and watch a possible trickle down effect. It may be good or it may be bad. One way to find out.

    The End...of my political involvement. Later, QD.
    Reps to QD for speaking his mind. Now to pick apart his controversial post, the way I took it.

    His second paragraph foreshadows the Obama plan for change. This country is not respected by many on the homefront, and abroad due to its foundation. Obama himself said we are the greatest nation, no doubting that. This the place that you can come to make your dreams easier to unfold. Yet our dirty past and current do not allow the country, AMERICANS, to harness the complete dream. We are a society of hatred, greed, etc. The notion of getting away from the norm is a great feeling for many, and a disgusting feeling for many more.

    Do you all honestly really think that Obama is going to do that bad? Or is it that you fear the "not so normal" is going to do great things? He is not a spearheaded person. If he makes a call that his cabinet does not agree with they will advise him, and Obama will listen. Bush, not to slam him, but he worked his own agenda. Even his biggest supporters admited it. Think about this: Did Bush work on everything that he proposed? Did the things that he did work on come to pass? No and No.

    Whether you want to see Barack as white, black, 50/50, or 60/40 he is no different from many other politicians. Similar policies, beliefs, and education as so many candidates before him. 2 things set him apart from 98% of them, compassion and color.

    I feel that QD's reference to the trickle down effect is what will spark this country.

    Do I completely agree with ALL of Obama's politics, no. Do I completely disagree with all of McCain politics, no. I read and re-read their plans alot. I choose not to post big arguements like Mike, Tony, Paul, and other because I am still picking them apart. Also, I appreciate the discussions because whether or not you want to accept it, there are probably 35% more people on IA involved in the political process than before....Change There is probably 65% more Americans involved in the political process than before....Change This is only the beginning of more Change.

    With all that stuff I just said, QD please learn a little about politics, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 93ludew/h22a
    the whole bit on blaming public education is a load of crap..... i can speek from personal experience...... came up in a poor family, didn't go to college and i graduated from the worst school system in georgia clayton county..... now take a look at me.... i have a car i own free and clear, i owe 50,000 dollars left on my 130,000 dollar house and to top it off i am 23 years old..... if you are poor, in jail, or have 300 baby daddy's or baby mama's thatr is a personal desicion.... the opertunities are out there you just have to get off your lazy ass and work for what you have... i did it and yeah i started off doin **** work but hell you got to start off somewhere.... i have friends that started off bussing tables at resturants and now make good money as a manager..... today people have the mentallity that they are way to good to do some low work and work their way up to the top...... so you sir are the dumbass for blaming the school system, criminal justice system and "impossable job market"
    Some reading material for you. The 1% of Americans who don't fit the definition of "literacy" provided by the US Census are therefore most likely to be the lowest earners. Also, keep in mind that the definition of literacy is skewed and is just a basic competence test in reading a couple hundred words at maybe a fourth grade level. It is estimated that 20% of Americans lack functional literacy skills (AKA a Fourth grade education)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literac..._United_States

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    And:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty..._United_States

    Only about 3% of Americans are on Welfare now. But 15.2% are below the poverty line. Being poor does not equal being a leech on the system, as the majority of poor aren't even recieving Welfare.

    Notice in the table in the Wikipedia link I provided the correlation between the poverty index (HPI-2) and the percentage of the population lacking functional literacy skills.

    I could go on about the high percentage of people in the penal system over B/S like canabis posession, etc.

    If it is true that people who are poor are poor because they choose to be then you must surely have some data or sources to back it up. I appreciate your vitriol and all that but the data will prove you wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
    The other part of me votes for him because, I think everyone can agree, that the USA needs a makeover. Badly. Why not start at the top? Obviously the white folks aren't getting it done. Let a black dude run the country and see how it fairs. Make a change at the top of the mountain and watch a possible trickle down effect. It may be good or it may be bad. One way to find out.

    The End...of my political involvement. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender
    If it is true that people who are poor are poor because they choose to be then you must surely have some data or sources to back it up. I appreciate your vitriol and all that but the data will prove you wrong.
    lol good post


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    so basically, youre voting for him because hes black.

    thats stupid as ****. race shouldnt have ANYTHING to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jesse4846
    so basically, youre voting for him because hes black.

    thats stupid as ****. race shouldnt have ANYTHING to do with it.
    For you to think people arent voting for that man cause he is black, is stupid as ****.


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    Quote Originally Posted by umairejaz
    Those of you who think QD is alone in this mindset are blindly being ignorant.
    I dont think he is alone with his ignorant mindset on politics, I just wished he was. Its sad that a lot of people will be voting for Obama because they want some "miracle" change to happen to this country and because Obama changechange they think he will get the job done. Its equally sad people will vote for him just out of spite from the Bush administration.
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    Ill be honest and say I'm voting for Mccain. If Obama wins. I'll be pretty pissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender
    Only about 3% of Americans are on Welfare now. But 15.2% are below the poverty line. Being poor does not equal being a leech on the system, as the majority of poor aren't even recieving Welfare.

    Notice in the table in the Wikipedia link I provided the correlation between the poverty index (HPI-2) and the percentage of the population lacking functional literacy skills.

    I could go on about the high percentage of people in the penal system over B/S like canabis posession, etc.

    If it is true that people who are poor are poor because they choose to be then you must surely have some data or sources to back it up. I appreciate your vitriol and all that but the data will prove you wrong.
    you mistook my post i was saying that if you are poor, in jail or you have alot of baby mama's or baby daddy's that is a personal choice you are that way.... i scooped it all in one clump.... i never said if you are poor you are a leeches.... the leeches are the people who stay in jail or have 20 kids and make minimum wage..... i said i speek from personal experience and the oppertunities are out there all you got to do is choose to not break the law, do with out the nicer things in life for a while, work hard, and use birth control you can easibly obtain a good paying job and then you can afford the nicer stuff.... like i said befor it is a choice nobody forces you to be poor... reps for a good post anyway you must have misread my original post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender
    You make your arguments with all the acumen of Eric Cartman. Very, very few of the wealthiest 5% in America worked their way up from nothing. Bill Gates sure, but.... who else? Once you start talking about multi-billionaires, thats just more wealth than one person can accrue in a lifetime without starting from an inheritance.
    What about the Walton family? Steve Jobs? Oprah? I could go on and on and on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6.0GTO
    Its equally sad people will vote for him just out of spite from the Bush administration.
    I don't think that Obama realizes that Bush isn't running for office this year! All he does is criticize Bush in his speeches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett
    You have got to be kidding right? You are pretty much showing you are as bad as the truckers you listen to. Dizzle, You need to check facts son. You wanting a black dude to run it as you say is no different than the truckers saying they wont vote for him cause he is black.
    White folks blindly elect white politicans because they white as well, thats why u hear so much Nobama stuff everywhere and the sudden urgency to vote republican just to stop him from becoming President. Dont give QD or anyone else voting other than repub a hard time.

    Give a new face and a new chance to someone wanting to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JConner
    I don't think that Obama realizes that Bush isn't running for office this year! All he does is criticize Bush in his speeches.
    And all u never hear is Bush in the Republicans speeches cuz they are trying to make themselves "different" and to show that they can "change" and dis-associate themselves from Bush and the Republicans...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6.0GTO
    I dont think he is alone with his ignorant mindset on politics, I just wished he was. Its sad that a lot of people will be voting for Obama because they want some "miracle" change to happen to this country and because Obama changechange they think he will get the job done. Its equally sad people will vote for him just out of spite from the Bush administration.
    You must be a dumbass. Seems it comes natural to you and a few others who didn't catch the drift. You seriously did not see what my post was about? I yanked your cord with a lazy rhetoric that would make Dr. Seuss look at me and say, "Ooop bobble gook gak deks green eggs and fucced you up!" Lolol @ you taking my post seriously.

    There's an age old saying that goes as follows: Read between the lines.

    You should hear all the garbage I hear on that radio every single day. You'd hear more racial shiit spouted out about Obama it would make you turn around and slap your own ass so hard, you'd like it and ask them to repeat themselves just so you could slap yourself again. I was honest as hail in that I think it would be funny to have Obama win the election so I could see all the ignorant rednecks squirm and fidget for the next four years. Is that why I would vote for the man. Hail no. Brett, i thought you knew me better than that out of all these people on that. But I am willing to go for the change that a black man may provide for the country.

    BTW, 6.0, you probably think I'm some black dude saying all this and I really am voting for Obama because he's black. Right?

    Lolol @ all you folks getting riled up. My work here is done. Later, QD.
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    I realize you aren't black QD. I'm just sick of all the Obama hype. If his name was Jon Smith and he was white, he wouldn't even be running. He would still be a nobody that hasn't done anything for this country. I hate to hear people are voting for anyone out of spite. Its equally bad that people are voting for mccain because they cant handle a black man running this country. Politics should have nothing to do with race/age/sex, but the government has been ran by rich white men for a very long time, change is uncomfortable to a lot of people. Oh well, ive said my peace. Its not like Obama will get elected anyways....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6.0GTO
    I realize you aren't black QD. I'm just sick of all the Obama hype. If his name was Jon Smith and he was white, he wouldn't even be running. He would still be a nobody that hasn't done anything for this country. I hate to hear people are voting for anyone out of spite. Its equally bad that people are voting for mccain because they cant handle a black man running this country. Politics should have nothing to do with race/age/sex, but the government has been ran by rich white men for a very long time, change is uncomfortable to a lot of people. Oh well, ive said my peace. Its not like Obama will get elected anyways....
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    I personally will not vote for him because he doesnt put his hand over his heart when they said the pledge. Thats unpatriotic and disrespectful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 93ludew/h22a
    you mistook my post i was saying that if you are poor, in jail or you have alot of baby mama's or baby daddy's that is a personal choice you are that way.... i scooped it all in one clump.... i never said if you are poor you are a leeches.... the leeches are the people who stay in jail or have 20 kids and make minimum wage.....
    What I'm saying is that there are opportunities, but it is very easy for someone to screw up. Get busted with a joint and end up with a criminal record. End up pregnant when a condom breaks, etc. A big problem is that people aren't expected or even encouraged much to make the right choices (especially in the education system). I know when I was in school, the people in charge didn't offer me a whole lot of support when it came to making choices and I had to find out a lot for myself. Our schools and our culture need to start holding people to higher standards. The opportunities are out there but people aren't being given any encouragement to go after them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6.0GTO
    I realize you aren't black QD. I'm just sick of all the Obama hype. If his name was Jon Smith and he was white, he wouldn't even be running. He would still be a nobody that hasn't done anything for this country. I hate to hear people are voting for anyone out of spite. Its equally bad that people are voting for mccain because they cant handle a black man running this country. Politics should have nothing to do with race/age/sex, but the government has been ran by rich white men for a very long time, change is uncomfortable to a lot of people. Oh well, ive said my peace. Its not like Obama will get elected anyways....
    Dude, its hype because its taboo! Be sick of it all you want. There was hype with Hilary too. The thought of something DIFFERENT running this country is going to get hype.

    If an Asian or Hispanic ran next term, and they appeal to the people, and are qualified.......YOU ARE GOING TO GET HYPE. Also, again as QD pointed out, the white folk are not going to accept it either way, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender
    What I'm saying is that there are opportunities, but it is very easy for someone to screw up. Get busted with a joint and end up with a criminal record. End up pregnant when a condom breaks, etc. A big problem is that people aren't expected or even encouraged much to make the right choices (especially in the education system). I know when I was in school, the people in charge didn't offer me a whole lot of support when it came to making choices and I had to find out a lot for myself. Our schools and our culture need to start holding people to higher standards. The opportunities are out there but people aren't being given any encouragement to go after them.
    The problem with the education system is that there are a lack of teachers WHO CARE. ANYONE can go get an education certificate, pending you have some sort of degree. The schools are begging for more teachers and they do not have a quality pool to choose from. There are VERY few caring teachers who are willing to put it all out there for even the most stubborn of children.

    My cousin pulled his son from a North Ga school b/c the teacher gives an assignment EVERY DAY and sits back in the chair sipping coffee. His theory is teach on Monday, BS Tues-Thurs, test on Fri. Oh, he is in the 5th grade, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6.0GTO
    I'm just sick of all the Obama hype.
    Well that's because you're all over the "McCain" hype, man. This is just part of the election process. My point is that while a lot of people are saying that black folks are voting for Obama because he is black, I guarantee you that a lot of white folks are voting for McCain because he is white. Tell me I'm wrong. There are a lot of stupid, ignorant white folks out there that would rather have the country torn to shreds rather than have a black man run it. (Not saying McCain will tear the country up/just making a blanket statement). Had I just posted that I was voting for Obama and put my valid reasons down, you still would have tried to tear me down. You still would have called me ignorant (for some other reason). That's all part of the Democratic/Republican debacle. So it all boils down to you "attacking" me because I said I was voting for Barrack. It doesn't matter why I am, it just matters (to you) that I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteboy572
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    I personally will not vote for him because he doesnt put his hand over his heart when they said the pledge. Thats unpatriotic and disrespectful.
    Wow are you serious? At least QD said he'll vote for him because of something that is true.. you're basing your vote off of a chain email that you know absolutely no facts about.

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    man i said it b4 and i'll say it again. McCain had his moment in time in the last few elections. I have respect for the man but this year he really shouldnt be up there. I feel his choice with Palin is more of an "if obama didnt pick hillary then why dont i get chick on the ticket?" Really if hillary didnt get as much hype as she did there woulda been a dude up there. Republicans are scared this election and they have full reason to be.

    Think about it one of their own will go down as one of the worst presidents in U.S history, they are losing seats across the country and their old terrorism argument is not nearly as strong as it was four years ago. Their last out to me has been to jump on Obama because he got way more attention that anybody thought even from his own party.

    While I may not be all for Biden I do kinda think it was an okay choice because for all of you jumping on how green he is an experienced Vp would give him more clout for when and if he does try to change things. its like tryin to build a motor with no concept of how it works ya gotta have someone who knows something to teach you how to do so you know what to fix later.

    I agree with Qd to a point. 9/10 he is pretty much on point. Honestly I have my own views like waiting for the day when one of these guys pushes for the fair tax act and quit complainin about taxes going up. Its going to happen regardless. How do you think teachers and police get paid and roads get built : taxes! Its just wasteful spending that needs to change. Im not saying hike up taxes like crazy i just say realize it comes with the territory. belive me as much as i hate the 300 bucks that comes out of my check every two weeks Im glad that part of it goes to making sure my siblings have a better future than i do.

    To change that wasteful spending dont just vote for a president go vote for every level of government. The pres can only do but so much ya gotta go for congress too. I dont agree on 100% of the things eigther choice is for but I just feel the republican party needs to do a lot of reform before they take office again.

    just my thoughts /rant

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    I'm not on the mccain bandwagon, so if you would of said you are voting for Obama for valid political reasons I wouldn't of bothered posting anything, it was just the sheer fact that you wanted to see the redneck hill billies squirm in defeat if Obama is voted into office. I too will find it funny reaction wise, but I would prefer mccain over Obama any day of the week. I like one less then the other which is where i stand in the votes. The government is all corrupt no matter how you shake the dice, and both are puppets of their political parties, I guess my vote goes to the republican puppet

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    Realistically you only have 2 choices. Sure there are indpendent parties that could grow if people supported them and you can write in Ron Paul if ya want but really, this election is going to go to either the Dems or the GOP. The other parties are just not organized enough yet and haven't been since Ross Perot. With a few exceptions America has almost always been a 2 party system, which has done more harm than good IMO.

    That being said a lot of bad stuff has happened on the Republican watch. I won't go into detail but a lot of people who don't necessarily follow every issue are ready for new leadership and they don't see anything new or exciting about John McCain or the Republican party. And since they basically have only one other choice....

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    ^ You cant put Bush's failures on McCain just because he is a republican. So your argument means nothing. And last time I checked the bubble started under Clinton's watch. It had to burst sooner or later, just happen to while bush is in office.

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