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    Default for all the people against the fair tax

    before flaming just read the actual bill in plain english and then decide for yourself if it is a bad idea...no flaming the thread just read it and discuss
    http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/PlainEngl...TaxAct2007.pdf
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    umm... 36 pages you want us to read and discuss? lol Good luck with that one...
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    Fair tax makes since, plain and simple! Will never happen though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carbon_crash
    Fair tax makes since, plain and simple! Will never happen though.
    how is it supposed to happen when people like you say "Great idea....but it'll never happen"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbon_crash
    Fair tax makes since, plain and simple! Will never happen though.
    It will happen eventually, at least in some form. It wont be for quite a while though. GA is in good shape though. There are several state lawmakers that said they will push for the fairtax in GA as soon as it is eacted federally. Personally I think that if it was enacted in GA it would help the push for a federal bill.


    For all of the people that are against the FairTax. I urge you to only mention those things that you feel would have a negative impact compared to the current system. Its not perfect in every respect, but it is BETTER in every respect compared to the current system.



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    those that support it, sign the petition in my sig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy

    those that support it, sign the petition in my sig.
    done

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    Even if we all disagree I just have to say I'm pretty impressed with the content and discussions on this site recently.

    I like the fair tax in theory, my only issue is it requires the people to remain informed and keep the government accountable... (to keep them from raising the tax rate) and when the people are more concerned with American Idol than the dealings of their government.. I'm a bit skeptical. With that said I'd still vote for the Fair Tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    Even if we all disagree I just have to say I'm pretty impressed with the content and discussions on this site recently.

    I like the fair tax in theory, my only issue is it requires the people to remain informed and keep the government accountable... (to keep them from raising the tax rate) and when the people are more concerned with American Idol than the dealings of their government.. I'm a bit skeptical. With that said I'd still vote for the Fair Tax.
    agreed with every word but the skeptical part
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    i like the idea of a level playing field period i do kinda miss my 200+ bucks i lose out on every check if not more i just get mad looking at it. but yeah I agree with Tony the Discussions here have been a lot better recently.

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    well you 2 just jinxed it. All the morons are going to come out of the woodwork now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    Even if we all disagree I just have to say I'm pretty impressed with the content and discussions on this site recently.

    I like the fair tax in theory, my only issue is it requires the people to remain informed and keep the government accountable... (to keep them from raising the tax rate) and when the people are more concerned with American Idol than the dealings of their government.. I'm a bit skeptical. With that said I'd still vote for the Fair Tax.
    The thing is, the people should be informed and empowered as it is, the FairTax shouldn't force them to do that. A government should be afraid of its people, not the other way around, which is seemingly whats going on in the present day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchef
    A government should be afraid of its people, not the other way around, which is seemingly whats going on in the present day.
    Amen. This is the largest problem in America today. Our citizens have forgotten that government is meant to work for us, rather than us being subject to any one person or particular idea.

    The FairTax allows us to choose when to pay taxes rather than the IRS stealing income from hard working and successful Americans.

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    My turn to be impressed. No one has been in here spouting off moronic reasons to hate the FairTax. What is coming of IA now a days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    My turn to be impressed. No one has been in here spouting off moronic reasons to hate the FairTax. What is coming of IA now a days.
    When you logically think about it, there are no moronic reasons to hate the FairTax.

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    **** everyone hates taxes to begin with and the tax code sure as hell isnt understandable in the least so why not make it simple and like earlier stated in other threads it would make illegals pay taxes at some point because they have to buy something so sure the average person may look at prices of things go up but if you keep more money does it really matter in the end? even big companies cant complain on that one. I just dont see why ppl dont like it in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchef
    When you logically think about it, there are no moronic reasons to hate the FairTax.
    The only reasons I have ever heard given that the fairtax isnt an improvement over the current tax code are moronic.

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    we are not even supposed to be taxed out of our checks at all. a lot of people have quit the irs because they could not find the law. look it up, there are several videos and court cases that bring this up, they just want us to be quite and pay the private bankers(rockafellas) and hope this never becomes popular. so spread the word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by preferredduck
    we are not even supposed to be taxed out of our checks at all. a lot of people have quit the irs because they could not find the law. look it up, there are several videos and court cases that bring this up, they just want us to be quite and pay the private bankers(rockafellas) and hope this never becomes popular. so spread the word.
    interesting... link?

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    the 16th amendment to the constitution gives the govt power to tax our income and take it directly from our checks. This is why one of the main points in the fairtax is to repeal the 16th amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0p7!mu5
    i like the idea of a level playing field period i do kinda miss my 200+ bucks i lose out on every check if not more i just get mad looking at it. but yeah I agree with Tony the Discussions here have been a lot better recently.
    I wish i was only missing 200 bucks on a pay check lol i sure to miss my 800+ bucks on every pay check. Atleast i dont get rapped when tax returns come around.

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    Imo the fair tax would be the best thing that ever happened to this country. I do have to agree that it will never happen though, b/c it forces everyone to be on the same level. The wealthy will be forced to pay more in taxes for their yachts and private jets, and they won't have any tax shelters to make up for it. We all know that the "top 1%" run this country, and they won't allow a law to pass that might make them an equal in any way with the average person on the street that lives paycheck to paycheck. Call me cynical but I calls'em like I sees'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nissangeek
    Imo the fair tax would be the best thing that ever happened to this country. I do have to agree that it will never happen though, b/c it forces everyone to be on the same level. The wealthy will be forced to pay more in taxes for their yachts and private jets, and they won't have any tax shelters to make up for it. We all know that the "top 1%" run this country, and they won't allow a law to pass that might make them an equal in any way with the average person on the street that lives paycheck to paycheck. Call me cynical but I calls'em like I sees'em.
    the working rich would actually SAVE money by going to the fairtax.

    The ultra rich that make their money from capital gains would probably save money also, but in the end I think they would break about even.

    The real benefits would be for those in the lower and middle classes. And they ahve the real power in the country even though they dont have a clue how to use that power.

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