ABOUT TIME CREFLO DOLLAR

[Julio]

Under investigation.... I can't wait to see/hear the outcome on this investigation...
I wonder where he got all that money.

[thatS2Kguy]

I would not trust a minister with the name Creflo $

[BTLFED]

BAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAA!! And people wonder why I don't believe in organized religion!

You know, I am actually an ordained minister for the Universal Life Church.

[BABY J]

Details? This is on my radar now.

[Kamikaze]

His pal Eddie Long is also under investigation. So is Kenneth Copeland.

[1439/2000]

Food for thought. If you have a church in a rural town and you bring in 2k a month which is a small percentage of whats given at your parish (lets say 10% for the pastor) for the offering to pay for lights and air conditioning and the pastors family then you are not shady.

If you take the same percentage (10%) as your church grows and grows and grows and pretty soon you have millions of dollars using the same formula BUT NOT taking more from your patrons, whats wrong with that?

I'm not saying they are into something they shouldnt be, I dont know all of their business I'm just saying you dont know what they did to make that church what it is. They have 5k + people in their congregations so I think if they are being straight with what their fair cut is I dont see what the big deal is about. They should be paid well.

[Glides]

Anyone who follows the religious teachings of a man with the words Dollar and Flo in their name is a moron anyway.

Creflo Dollar is actually on the governments Cult list.

[Lizbiz101]

I would not trust a minister with the name Creflo $

AMEN!!! +1

[BABY J]

Funny - I have seen the Brat, Evander Holyfield, and hundreds of other celebs fund his message. Not my place to judge him. There is nothing "cultish" about his message, i will say that. Copeland owns his own airport, used to be a military base... and Creflo congregation has a dome that will rival a pro football stadium. THAT is why they are under the gov radar, and more than likely for no other reason - LOL. And LOL @ people who laugh at his name, I'm SURE he can help that - ha ha. If they are found to do any wrong-doings I hope they are prosecuted - but it's highly unlikely.

[Dracc]

I remember when i 1st moved here earlier this year and i got a chance to play for Eddie Long's church ( cause j one of the dummers was out so i filled in) and i was like DAG a 48 million dollar church.. i never liked creflo like that any way.. when he came to columbia.. all 9 of his BODY GAURDS drove H2 hummers and he was a in a s500 benz.... my thing is... if you walk by faith you dont need body gaurds to be a preacher.. and why do they all drive hummers to follow you.. why is there a hellicopter pad on you church grounds... and about bishop eddie long.. J makes 1700 a week to play the drums... 1700 a week to play the fawkin drums.. WHY... the minister of music makes 4 grand a sunday.. how do i know this.. because J told me.. and i've seen the check he gets on sundays after second service..

[Bballjamal]

All it is is suspected tax evasion....

We were over creflows house the other day talking with his assistant about it and they weren't worried...

[Dracc]

All it is is suspected tax evasion....

We were over creflows house the other day talking with his assistant about it and they weren't worried...

he's a cool dude all in all but i just dont get the way he rolls man

[BABY J]

I remember when i 1st moved here earlier this year and i got a chance to play for Eddie Long's church ( cause j one of the dummers was out so i filled in) and i was like DAG a 48 million dollar church.. i never liked creflo like that any way.. when he came to columbia.. all 9 of his BODY GAURDS drove H2 hummers and he was a in a s500 benz.... my thing is... if you walk by faith you dont need body gaurds to be a preacher.. and why do they all drive hummers to follow you.. why is there a hellicopter pad on you church grounds... and about bishop eddie long.. J makes 1700 a week to play the drums... 1700 a week to play the fawkin drums.. WHY... the minister of music makes 4 grand a sunday.. how do i know this.. because J told me.. and i've seen the check he gets on sundays after second service..

People take faith so literal - 1st of all, we are talking about Columbia - God (if he exists) ALSO gives us common sense - security is a must, i DO remember some1 walking around w/ 12 "deciples" before there was even hand-guns. There is a heli-pad on the church grounds to bring in other ministers - when TD Jakes travels and you are paying him to come to your church - why make him deal w/ ATL traffic? I made quite a bit to play bass/drums at churches- and the reason why is b/c I could have been playing in any R&B band in the metro - to keep solid musicians on staff is hard - and YES it's a job, but one I would have also done for free. But I feel that my talent is God-given, then why not be compensated for it? How rude is it to have hired "help" watch the collection plate go around and then not show them that they are appreciated? I have played for small churches that could barely afford to pay me but they did. There is balance in all of it - people stand around talking about "let go and let God" and "I am just waiting on God to move" when they have been given a BRAIN by God to get themselves out of trouble, or keep themselves from being homeless - it seems rediculous to ask the invisbile for more when you have health and strength and brain to shape your own life.

[Bballjamal]

he's a cool dude all in all but i just dont get the way he rolls man

Bruh I can take you on the tour of pastors homes around the A. I've been to half of them and none are under the 1-2million mark. Straight up

Also, my pastor was rollin a e550 lowered on 22" TIS's also and his wife has the CLS 55 on 22" Lowenharts

[Glides]

People take faith so literal - 1st of all, we are talking about Columbia - God (if he exists) ALSO gives us common sense - security is a must, i DO remember some1 walking around w/ 12 "deciples" before there was even hand-guns. There is a heli-pad on the church grounds to bring in other ministers - when TD Jakes travels and you are paying him to come to your church - why make him deal w/ ATL traffic? I made quite a bit to play bass at World Changers - and the reason why is b/c I could have been playing in any R&B band in the metro - to keep solid musicians on staff is hard - and YES it's a job, but one I would have also done for free. But I feel that my talent is God-given, then why not be compensated for it? How rude is it to have hired "help" watch the collection plate go around and then not show them that they are appreciated. I have played for small churches that could barely afford to pay me but they did. There is balance in all of it - people stand around talking about "let go and let God" and "I am just waiting on God to move" when they have been given a BRAIN by God to get themselves out of trouble, or keep themselves from being homeless - it seems rediculous to ask the invisbile for more when you have health and strength and brain to shape your own life.

Lol, this post was so full of win I had to read it twice.

1. Bodygaurds and Disciples are totally different things. The 12 that followed Jesus were not armed and trained to deal with people who got too close to him with force. Jesus was prepared to die for his faith, I highly doubt Creflo Dollar is. So much so that he employs bodygaurds, supplies them with Hummers and surrounds himself. Big difference.

2. I love this one "How rude is it to watch the collection plate go around and not show them they are appreciated". Yea, Ho rude for the congregation to tithe their hard earned money and someone not get their cut. Your statement only reaffirms that religion is a business, a business that is designed to seperate a person from their money as fast as possible. A fool and his money are soon parted, if you don't believe me, go tour some of the 1-2 million plus homes owned by todays black televangelists.

3. "It seems rediculous to ask the invisible for more more" Damm straight, Creflo doesn't ask the almighty, he asks the congregation, and they pay, in large amounts. It's sad to watch him prey on the foundation of religion to further his own gains. There is a special spot in hell reserved for televangelists and it will start filling up soon. An all star cast, Creflo Dollar, Binny Hihn, TD Jakes will join Jim Baker and Tammy in an ass****ing hodown.

These guys may be cool, but they are pimps. Pimping religion. I'll be the first one to laugh out loud when they bring Dollar and his goon squad down.

[Crazy Asian]

my dad's a pastor and he drives and 07 Acura MDX. That's balling. Yes we scam our patron and what not. LOL. Nah but though some pastor's really think there higher in superiority and therefore want like protection and 5 star treatment. It sickens me.

[Crazy Asian]

And also pastor's gets insane gifts. Seriously trust me the church patrons dont joke around on the gifts. His damn customer give him insane gifts too.

[Nomad!]

I heard about this. There are several other minister of "mega churches" under this investigation, including several pastors/ministors in the mid west.

One of the things I heard senator Chuck Grassley say that stood out in my mind is, one of these pastors/ministers (I believe he was referring to Creflo Dollar) had a $20,000 marble toilet in his house. That is ridiculous! Many of the members of these churches may not make $20,000 a year. I'm sure it'll be justified by some mindless sheep, just as they justify the private jets & $100,000 cars.

[BABY J]

Yeah - bodyguards and diciples are different, connect your mind back to the time. What do you think the average Joe was thinking when Jesus was walking around w/ a football team by his side? They were thinking the same sh*t that you are thinking about Hummers - dumba$s. As far as Jesus being prepared to die for his faith, if he was then why didn't he? HA HA. A sacrifice is not a sacrifice if you "undo" it (I do remem some talk about him rising right? ) LOL. Obviously you have not read my posts on what I think about religion - go educate yourself. Search the forum for everytime I have used that word. As far as if Creflo is ready to die for his faith, I can give 2 sh1ts - he's gotta answer to some1 - and that person is not on this message board - lol.

Do you believe? Do you think that if you give your money to a homeless man who happens to be a millionaire that it will affect your "blessing?" Do you think it's trickery? Do you think that these people/priests are f*ckin hypnotists?? LOL. They are regular f*cking people with problems just like you - so the whole "woe is me" mentality that you are presenting is a copout - that's why I LOL @ bible thumpers to start w/. I am more interested in why people wanna be the judge and jury than I am about his guilt - what the f*ck are you doing in YOUR life? LOL. As far as his security detail, it's basically non-existant in ATL. Go to Columbia as a millionaire w/out security and tell me if u feel safe. Many preachers would say that area is too rough and decline the invitation altogether. And WTF are you talkin about "black" televangelists - the last time I checked they are outnumbered by "you know who" - turn on TBN and let me know what you see.

I tell you what - Malachi 3 is your friend - read that, and then let me know how you think getting the message across is funded. A million dollar home is nothing in ATL, I know 4 people on this forum w/ a million dollar + home and you can't even google them and find anything on the net about 'em.

You're just a regular goon who can't stand to see some1 make it - typical media a$sclown who likes it when a person w/ perceived power or $$ is taken down a notch. And when/if there is wrong-doing proven, I will be the 1st to LOL @ Creflo. I'll laugh at any idiot who does wrong-doing while flying the flag of religion... and I will laugh at any1 who puts a PERSON (preacher or not) above a pedestal and think that they can't do wrong. ANYONE can do wrong - so I am never suprised when it happens. But to judge b/c he is under investigation is just idiocracy.

Carry on. LOL

[thinkfast®]

baby j gettin gangsta in the club AND ia

[Kelly]

First of all, TD Jakes is for sure not one of these people who beg for money.
Him and Jentzen Franklin are my all time favorite pastors. Love them!

Yeah, some of the pastors are 'loaded'. It's a big church, it's gonna happen. I feel compelled, not because of my preacher, but because of my faith that I need to tithe 10 % of my paycheck to my church. The church I attend only has around 300 people and I can tell you right now, my pastor isn't hurting. But all aspects of the church are being taken care of also. So I can imagine that a huge church like Creflo's is going to help take care of the funds even more (granted their are bigger bills to pay also). However, if he is using the churchs share, then their is a problem.

I do think God tests some people though. Which is hard, but He can help you perservere. Look at Job (in the bible)... He had EVERYTHING taken away from him (even his kids died). His wife told him to "curse God and die" but he didn't... He was miserable for weeks on end. But he stuck with it, praising God thru it all and what did God do? He gave it back to him 'ten fold'. There were several men in the bible that were wealthy so we can't say that it's not necessarily of God.

I'm not taking sides... If he is in the wrong, he needs to be punished. I'm just simply saying that probably not every pastor who has a Benz is necessarily in the wrong.

[Spectic Tank]

WAIT!!!

Churches and organized religion are corrupt?!?!?!

GET THE **** OUTTA HERE!!!!

[Crazy Asian]

ahahha

damn kelly oyu want to be a pastor or a pastor's wife LOL!!!??

[Kelly]

ahahha

damn kelly oyu want to be a pastor or a pastor's wife LOL!!!??

Lol, well ya know... I'm down for whatever comes my way.

You silly pastor's kid. They say your kind are the worst

[Crazy Asian]

oh you dont know us that well. Especially the west coast pk's. There the worst pk kid's in the united states.

[Vteckidd]

Lol, this post was so full of win I had to read it twice.

1. Bodygaurds and Disciples are totally different things. The 12 that followed Jesus were not armed and trained to deal with people who got too close to him with force. Jesus was prepared to die for his faith, I highly doubt Creflo Dollar is. So much so that he employs bodygaurds, supplies them with Hummers and surrounds himself. Big difference.

2. I love this one "How rude is it to watch the collection plate go around and not show them they are appreciated". Yea, Ho rude for the congregation to tithe their hard earned money and someone not get their cut. Your statement only reaffirms that religion is a business, a business that is designed to seperate a person from their money as fast as possible. A fool and his money are soon parted, if you don't believe me, go tour some of the 1-2 million plus homes owned by todays black televangelists.

3. "It seems rediculous to ask the invisible for more more" Damm straight, Creflo doesn't ask the almighty, he asks the congregation, and they pay, in large amounts. It's sad to watch him prey on the foundation of religion to further his own gains. There is a special spot in hell reserved for televangelists and it will start filling up soon. An all star cast, Creflo Dollar, Binny Hihn, TD Jakes will join Jim Baker and Tammy in an ass****ing hodown.

These guys may be cool, but they are pimps. Pimping religion. I'll be the first one to laugh out loud when they bring Dollar and his goon squad down.

CAN I GET A AMEN

[Kelly]

Lol, oh I know... Even in church camp.

They were always the ones getting caught making out on the swingsets, etc...
At like 9. lol

[Crazy Asian]

OOO I got caught...well there's too many too count. Seriously way too many to count.

[Echonova]

Under investigation.... I can't wait to see/hear the outcome on this investigation...
I wonder where he got all that money.

Bunch of haters in this thread... This man is a vessel, who God speaks thru to give us his word. Shouldn't we make sure that the messenger is well taken care of? $23,000 for a toilet to cushion the ass of this great orator of God is money well spent. So his charity raised 6 million and he kept half, He got God's message thru under-budget, that's all. Rolls Royce??? Jesus rode a donkey, which was comparable to a Rolls given the time period. 1.3 million for a house??? He needs room for when God comes to visit. And the 173,000 in landscaping??? Jesus likes a nice lawn. Everything can be explained, ya'll are just hatin cause he's rich and on TV.

[Dracc]

Bunch of haters in this thread... This man is a vessel, who God speaks thru to give us his word. Shouldn't we make sure that the messenger is well taken care of? $23,000 for a toilet to cushion the ass of this great orator of God is money well spent. So his charity raised 6 million and he kept half, He got God's message thru under-budget, that's all. Rolls Royce??? Jesus rode a donkey, which was comparable to a Rolls given the time period. 1.3 million for a house??? He needs room for when God comes to visit. And the 173,000 in landscaping??? Jesus likes a nice lawn. Everything can be explained, ya'll are just hatin cause he's rich and on TV.

[black]

WAIT!!!

Churches and organized religion are corrupt?!?!?!

GET THE **** OUTTA HERE!!!!

Exactly. Who knew!?

[BTLFED]

CAN I GET A AMEN

AFU.CKINGMEN

[Glides]

Yeah - bodyguards and diciples are different, connect your mind back to the time. What do you think the average Joe was thinking when Jesus was walking around w/ a football team by his side? They were thinking the same sh*t that you are thinking about Hummers - lol. As far as jesus being prepared to die for his faith, if he was then why didn't he? HA HA. A sacrifice is not a sacrifice if you "undo" it. LOl. Obv you have not read my posts on what I think about religion - go educate yourself. Search the forum for everytime I have used that word. As far as if Creflo is ready to die for his faith, I can give 2 sh1ts - he's gotta answer to some1 - and that person is not on this board - lol.

Do you believe? Do you think that if you give your money to a homeless man who happens to be a millionaire that it will affect your "blessing?" Do you think it's trickery? Do you think that these people are f*ckin hypnotists?? LOL. They are regular f*cking people with problems just like you - so the whole "woe is me" mentality that you are presenting is a copout - that's why I LOL @ bible thumpers to start w/. I am more interested in why people wanna be the judge and jury - what the f*ck are you doing in YOUR life? LOL. As far as his security detail, it's basically non-existant in ATL. Go to Columbia as a millionaire and tell me if u feel safe. And WTF are you talkin about "black" televangelists - the last time I checked they are outnumbered by "you know who" - turn on TBN and let me know what you see.

I tell you what - Malachi 3 is your friend - read that, and then let me know how you think getting the message across is funded. A million dollar home is nothing in ATL, I know 4 people on this forum w/ a million dollar + home and you can't even google them and find anything on the net about 'em.

You're just a regular goon who can't stand to see some1 make it - typical media a$sclown who likes it when a person w/ perceived power/$$ is taken down a notch. And when/if there is wrong-doing proven, I will be the 1st to LOL at any idiot who does wrong-doing while flying the flag of religion. But to judge b/c he is under investigation is just idiocracy.

Carry on. LOL

Thats a lot of LOL's in your post. I read it all but all I got out of it was "Boo hoo, i'm all mad now because somebody doesn't agree with me and is making fun of my buddy Crapflo". That's ok, give yourself a hug, everything will be alright. Crapflo will get off with a slap on the wrist and you can keep on "getting your cut" from the collection plate on sundays.

As for Black televangelists, Crapflo IS black right? Ok then, because he was the point of this thread and I didn't want to get him confused with "You know who".

And whenever did I present a "Woe is me" attitude? Laughable. As for what I do in my life, I gots mine man, you don't have to worry about me because I don't suck the golden d!ck of the Dollar ministries like you apparantly do so I have nothing to worry about if they tumble. I can also think of many better things to spend 1 million bucks on, like my business, not on a house. But thanks for your concern.

On a final note, I never judged him on the charges brought against him. I merely pointed out that he makes his money off of religion and the money of his congregation. He is nothing more than a charismatic showman using religion as his tool for making money. But it's all good in the hood if people "get they cut" right? Sure it is. But you took it to heart and got all hurt in the rear about it and tried to turn this into a jealousy thing. All I got to say on that is LOL.

[BABY J]

Thats a lot of LOL's in your post. I read it all but all I got out of it was "Boo hoo, i'm all mad now because somebody doesn't agree with me and is making fun of my buddy Crapflo". That's ok, give yourself a hug, everything will be alright. Crapflo will get off with a slap on the wrist and you can keep on "getting your cut" from the collection plate on sundays.

As for Black televangelists, Crapflo IS black right? Ok then, because he was the point of this thread and I didn't want to get him confused with "You know who".

And whenever did I present a "Woe is me" attitude? Laughable. As for what I do in my life, I gots mine man, you don't have to worry about me because I don't suck the golden d!ck of the Dollar ministries like you apparantly do so I have nothing to worry about if they tumble. I can also think of many better things to spend 1 million bucks on, like my business, not on a house. But thanks for your concern.

On a final note, I never judged him on the charges brought against him. I merely pointed out that he makes his money off of religion and the money of his congregation. He is nothing more than a charismatic showman using religion as his tool for making money. But it's all good in the hood if people "get they cut" right? Sure it is. But you took it to heart and got all hurt in the rear about it and tried to turn this into a jealousy thing. All I got to say on that is LOL.

Yeah - that' was a lotta LOLs b/c I was laughing as I typed that - and I am laughing as I type this one as well. Me - get "mad" at an ignorant post on a message board - not so much. You're more likely to toss a boomerang shaped dildo and butt_phuck yourself into a coma before that happens Lady. If he does get a slap on the wrist - go ahead and tell us why - why would he? B/c he "pays off" the government? Another conspiracy right? Truth of the matter is -- you hear what you want to hear, and what you say sounds even stupider. As I stated - if he's guilty he should be taken down a notch or 10. ATL fought him on getting the dome built - then the cost of steel magically rose millions of dollars for the project - these are things that I got to catch wind of when I went there.... which mind you, me playing bass @ churches was business for me -- push button, get bannana - or in my case, play bass - get paid. Imagine that - there are other businessmen in the world besides you - whoda thunk? Steel costs MAGICALLY rising?? ATL changing the zoning b/c he bought 1/2 a city block JUST so they could make a buck?? THAT'S pimpin' the church!!!! When he and his staff were being flown to other states to speak, airlines charged them more b/c they knew he was buying 100 tickets at a time to get people there ---> THAT'S pimpin' the church!! The solution - buy the god d*mned plane, and that's what he did. I can give 2 sh*ts about that too - just stating the facts. TBN charges more airtime to bring religious messages to your TV than PLENTY of other major networks - THAT'S pimpin' the f*ckin' church... get a clue. If you wanna talk about pimpin' the church/religion you gotta go higher than some black ass big forehead preacher in Georgia homeboy. You can start w/ the gov for starters. As I stated - I could careless either way - I left ATL in 1997, and I can sleep well at night w/ a clear conscience w/out feeling the need to give my raggedy a$s negative opinion about a man (who claims to be a man of God) before due-process has taken its course.


And as far as his accomodations?? Weak argument. Dammit if I take a church from 10 members doing bible study in my living room to over 25,000 strong you godd*mn right I am gonna have a nice house for my wife and kids - believe that sh1t!! Does the bible that you Christians live by NOT speak of wealth?? I mean if ya daddy is a King w/ streets of gold then why aren't his kids??? Are you not a Kings son?? LOL. Is the reward for tithing that you get to walk around w/ sandals and no shirt like Jesus and ask people to house you for the night - LOL. Is the "reward" for being a preacher and putting programs in place for people who would have otherwise NEVER heard who Jesus is/was just a meager condo in Atlantic station?? Hmmmm. Doesn't make me any less of a believer (that's just an example, every1 who's been on here longer than 10 minutes knows how I feel about religion and the idiots who believe in it). If that's your thing, then that's your thing. There are people who can't get to church b/c they don't have a baby-sitter - at World Changers, that's taken care of on-site. Can't get there b/c of your job - webcast - taken care of. 70million annual budget ain't SH*T to "pimp" w/ when your organization is stretched thin - setup a mission or a food/AIDS/medicine drive in the middle of nowhere just ONE per year and see how much it sets you back. I am not here to defend him - or NE1 else b/c I couldn't give 2 $hits - but what I CAN do is give an arbitrary view on it and let time tell. Buschur drives around in a 9 second capable (but 10 sec DD on street tune and pump gas) Evo - lol, I guess he is "pimpin' the parts" from his Mitsu "congregation" as well. LMAO!!! Does he go to Africa and open up free oil change shops? Does he donate cars to homeless people? MAybe he should drive around in a chevette instead. To be a businessman you sound like a dumbass. There is no mistake about it - there are some shiesty preachers - there are some shiesty doctors, there are sheisty speed shops - as long as there are men then there will be grimy men.


As far as charges brought against him - there ARE none. An investigation is an investigation. And if there are charges, I'm gonna LOL @ Creflo for being a dumba$s and write 3 more paragraphs about how much of a dumba$s he is. If he is doing wrong, then Richard Simmons should personally butt_phuk him in the pulpit right there in front of God and his grandmom.

It's simple -- if you want to attack a "man of God" - then show where his message is not backed up by the book that he is preaching from. Show where his message(s) is not backed up by the book that you oh-so believe in. It's a new f*ckin day, and idiots can't even see that. "We shall overcome" is dead - 15 year olds smoking pot are not gonna listen to some busted ass quartet on the corner singing "jesus is lord" for tips - they'll look at 'em say well SH*T if you're following Jesus and you're homeless then f*ck Jesus, I'll take my chances w/ the devil - LOL. But they will buy Kirk Franklin, and if they are getting the message - then it's a success - EVEN while Kirk parades around in his Rolls. You're not gonna buy a turbo kit from some dude in busted ass mini-van w/ the bumper falling off - get a clue. The guy started from nothing, and now he has a little bit - but you're is in the wrong d*mn town if he thinks 70million annual operating BUSINESS costs is "balling" - there are people w/ PERSONAL fortunes worth more than that in this town - and that's not a "budget", that's profit or hard cash. Once again - SWING AND A MISS. No response needed pumpkin - mmmkay? Bye bye.

[Echonova]

[Bruce Leroy]

My experience with church (especially the black church) has been nothing but a big popularity contest .ANd IMO Pastors that ride around balling out of control are they most popular. And that sends the wrong message. Every kid I know that wants to be a pastor, wants to be one "Beacuse they get paid." Even tho I don't go to church, That does not seem like a good reason to become a pastor to me.

[BABY J]

LMAO @ ECHO - I gotta steal that image. HAHA

[1000cckiller]

Bunch of haters in this thread... This man is a vessel, who God speaks thru to give us his word. Shouldn't we make sure that the messenger is well taken care of? $23,000 for a toilet to cushion the ass of this great orator of God is money well spent. So his charity raised 6 million and he kept half, He got God's message thru under-budget, that's all. Rolls Royce??? Jesus rode a donkey, which was comparable to a Rolls given the time period. 1.3 million for a house??? He needs room for when God comes to visit. And the 173,000 in landscaping??? Jesus likes a nice lawn. Everything can be explained, ya'll are just hatin cause he's rich and on TV.

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[Echonova]

LMAO @ ECHO - I gotta steal that image. HAHA

[BTLFED]