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    County Prosecutor Plans to Indict Vick

    By HANK KURZ Jr., AP Sports Writer

    document.write(getElapsed("20070925T032000Z"));2 hours agoUPDATED 19 MINUTES AGO

    Atlanta Falcons football player Michael Vick leaves federal court ...


    RICHMOND, Va. - The prosecutor in the rural county where Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick has admitted to bankrolling a dogfighting operation plans to present "a host of bills of indictment" regarding the case to a grand jury on Tuesday.

    "Yes, I'm presenting matters to the grand jury that involve dogfighting at 1915 Moonlight Road," Surry County Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald G. Poindexter told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Monday night.

    Moonlight Road is the address of the two story home on 15 mostly undeveloped acres that has been host to "Bad Newz Kennels" since 2001. It's where dozens of pit bulls were found in April, and where they were trained, fought and brutally executed.

    "Most of the matters that I'm presenting have already been admitted in sworn statements authored by the defendants in the federal proceedings," Poindexter said.

    He couldn't detail the exact indictments he will pursue, but said the local investigation and the federal investigation largely focused on different crimes.

    "The killing of dogs is one of those statutory prohibitions. Dogfighting is a crime, the mistreatment of animals is a crime, so you could take your pick, or take them all," Poindexter said before cutting the conversation short. "I don't have anything else to say about it. I'm through with it. Hopefully it's coming to an end."

    Vick, his co-defendants and lawyers will not attend the closed proceeding.

    Efforts to reach Vick's lawyers by telephone and e-mail were not successful.

    Vick and three co-defendants have already pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges in the case, and all are awaiting sentencing in federal court before the end of the year.

    Vick, who faces up to five years in prison, also has been indefinitely suspended without pay by the NFL and been dropped by all his major sponsors, including Nike.

    The local charges, and a conviction, could spell an end to any hope he has of resuming his NFL career after serving a likely federal prison term. An animal cruelty charge in Virginia is punishable by up to five years in prison, and he admitted in his written plea to helping kill six to eight pit bulls days before the first raid.

    That alone could expose him to as many as 40 years in prison.

    Vick, in his written plea, also admitted to supplying money for gambling on the fights involving Bad Newz Kennels dogs. He said he did not personally place any bets or share in any winnings, but gave his three co-defendants all those proceeds.

    The co-defendants, all of whom pleaded guilty before Vick and detailed what they said was his involvement, agreed to testify against him had the case gone to trial.

    The case began in late April when authorities conducting a drug investigation of Vick's cousin raided the former Virginia Tech star's property and seized dozens of dogs, most of them pit bulls, and equipment commonly associated with dogfighting.

    Six weeks later, with the local investigation perceived to be dragging and a search warrant allowed to expire, federal agents arrived with their own search warrants and started digging up dog carcasses buried days before the first raid.

    Poindexter, who had been widely criticized for the pace of the investigation, reacted angrily when the feds moved in, suggesting that Vick's celebrity was a draw, or that their pursuit of the case could have racial overtones. He later eased off those comments, saying that the sides would simply be pursuing parallel investigations.

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    Good, I hope he gets the maximum sentence.

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    im so sick of this shit, hes obviously being singled out, he made a mistake just like every american does, GET OVER IT PEOPLE let the man pay his debts and continue with his life. people didnt get this fired up when that drunk ass hockey player killed his team mate, they didnt take his career from him, and obviously a mans life is waay more valued than a muthafukin dog who could really give two shits about its owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshonda2004[b
    ]im so sick of this shit, hes obviously being singled out, he made a mistake just like every american does[/b], GET OVER IT PEOPLE let the man pay his debts and continue with his life. people didnt get this fired up when that drunk ass hockey player killed his team mate, they didnt take his career from him, and obviously a mans life is waay more valued than a muthafukin dog who could really give two shits about its owner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad
    x2

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    uh what you saying no for, its the truth, human life is more important than a fuckin dog, come on dont be a idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshonda2004
    uh what you saying no for, its the truth, human life is more important than a fuckin dog, come on dont be a idiot
    not always

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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad
    not always
    i.e. Michael Vick

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshonda2004
    uh what you saying no for, its the truth, human life is more important than a fuckin dog, come on dont be a idiot
    Inhuman behavior eventually strips you of your humanity, in a metaphysical sense.

    Perhaps behavior like that conducted by Michael Vick question mark, hmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshonda2004
    im so sick of this shit, hes obviously being singled out, he made a mistake just like every american does, GET OVER IT PEOPLE let the man pay his debts and continue with his life. people didnt get this fired up when that drunk ass hockey player killed his team mate, they didnt take his career from him, and obviously a mans life is waay more valued than a muthafukin dog who could really give two shits about its owner.
    Maybe he is being singled out because he is GUILTY. Has that ever occured to you? Let me guess you believe he has found god and is still a good person.

    Also, a mistake is something that you do 1 time and learn from it. A mistake is NOT something you do over a 6+ year timeframe.

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    i hear you, but im just sick of the overkill in this case, its getting crazy.
    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    Maybe he is being singled out because he is GUILTY. Has that ever occured to you? Let me guess you believe he has found god and is still a good person.

    Also, a mistake is something that you do 1 time and learn from it. A mistake is NOT something you do over a 6+ year timeframe.

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    alot of people dont understand that this is a sport, dog fighting has been around for a long time, its still going on as we speak, but i do feel that vick should have known to seperate himself from this stuff considering his high profile

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshonda2004
    alot of people dont understand that this is a sport, dog fighting has been around for a long time, its still going on as we speak, but i do feel that vick should have known to seperate himself from this stuff considering his high profile
    no,its a crime.......where peices of shit get off on hurting animals...

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    yeah its sad man, i dont condone that at all. ive been around a few rottweilers whose purpose was to fight, and its not pretty.
    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad
    no,its a crime.......where peices of shit get off on hurting animals...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshonda2004
    alot of people dont understand that this is a sport, dog fighting has been around for a long time, its still going on as we speak, but i do feel that vick should have known to seperate himself from this stuff considering his high profile
    where is the sport in it? Where do the participants in this 'sport' profit? How about this, we put you in a cage with a starving pit bull, and we will see if you still think its a sport.

    I would also like to see 1 example of overkill. If anything he is getting off easy because of his money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshonda2004
    im so sick of this shit, hes obviously being singled out, he made a mistake just like every american does, GET OVER IT PEOPLE let the man pay his debts and continue with his life. people didnt get this fired up when that drunk ass hockey player killed his team mate, they didnt take his career from him, and obviously a mans life is waay more valued than a muthafukin dog who could really give two shits about its owner.
    Thank u !! This man knows what hes talking bout

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshonda2004
    yeah its sad man, i dont condone that at all. ive been around a few rottweilers whose purpose was to fight, and its not pretty.
    Their purpose is to guard

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshonda2004
    uh what you saying no for, its the truth, human life is more important than a fuckin dog, come on dont be a idiot
    Hes right again
    Human life is more important than a dog. Aint no dog going to change the world. But 1 person can

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    ..............sigh

    guess u should been at the outside the lines live show,to boo like all the other ATL people..and make the city look like its full of retards

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    Mr. Big, since you wanted tog et involved in this, why dont you answer my questions. They shouldnt be all that difficult to answer.


    Hypno,
    no shit, the rest of the country now thinks of ATL as a bunch of knuckle dragging morons because of it. It really is sad that some people actualy believe what he did is ok. Makes me wonder what happened to the morals of this country.

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    Whats ur question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    where is the sport in it? Where do the participants in this 'sport' profit? How about this, we put you in a cage with a starving pit bull, and we will see if you still think its a sport.

    I would also like to see 1 example of overkill. If anything he is getting off easy because of his money.
    Man deer huntin is a sport!! Tell u what put u with those wild deers
    and have someone hunting ur ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    Hypno,
    no shit, the rest of the country now thinks of ATL as a bunch of knuckle dragging morons because of it. It really is sad that some people actualy believe what he did is ok. Makes me wonder what happened to the morals of this country.
    What he did was wrong, but let him pay his debt and get over it already. What sshonda said is sooo true. Dany Heatley was driving drunk, crashed his ferrari and killed his team mate. He gets 3 years PROBATION. So if i kill a person I'll just get probation, but if i kill a dog, then I could go to jail for years. Its not right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick
    What he did was wrong, but let him pay his debt and get over it already. What sshonda said is sooo true. Dany Heatley was driving drunk, crashed his ferrari and killed his team mate. He gets 3 years PROBATION. So if i kill a person I'll just get probation, but if i kill a dog, then I could go to jail for years. Its not right.
    Yea its bullshit!! And there are people on this site that think a dog life is worth more than a human!! come on now!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Big
    Man deer huntin is a sport!! Tell u what put u with those wild deers
    and have someone hunting ur ass

    when did I ever say hunting was a sport? On the other hand there is a purpose towards hunting. I know many hunters and every single one of them kill for the meat. Was Vick eating the meat? On top of that he was torturing the dogs.

    You still didnt answer me though, how is dog fighting a sport? What do the participants of this 'sport' gain?

    Heatley pleaded guilty to 2nd deg vehicular homicide. He was well under the legal limit so drunk driving wasnt the issue. Only sppeding and reckless driving. So yes I do see purposely torturing and killing dogs is worse than speeding and getting into a wreck that kills someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    when did I ever say hunting was a sport? On the other hand there is a purpose towards hunting. I know many hunters and every single one of them kill for the meat. Was Vick eating the meat? On top of that he was torturing the dogs.

    You still didnt answer me though, how is dog fighting a sport? What do the participants of this 'sport' gain?

    Heatley pleaded guilty to 2nd deg vehicular homicide. He was well under the legal limit so drunk driving wasnt the issue. Only sppeding and reckless driving. So yes I do see purposely torturing and killing dogs is worse than speeding and getting into a wreck that kills someone.
    man u sound dumb.
    And i know that u didt say noythin bout deer huntin but I did!!

    So u speakin for all hunters or ur friend?
    I know for a fact that all these deer hunter dont kill for meat

    Just like everybody fightin these dogs aint just doing it for the money
    Last edited by Mr.Big; 09-28-2007 at 03:03 AM.

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    So yes I do see purposely torturing and killing dogs is worse than speeding and getting into a wreck that kills someone.[/QUOTE]




    U cant be 4 real!! So a person thats kills someone in a car wreck cause they was drunk . is worse than what those type of dog (pitbull)was breed to do??

    How dare u put a dogs life in front of a humans

    There will never be a dog thats will change the world
    Last edited by Mr.Big; 09-27-2007 at 05:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Big
    So yes I do see purposely torturing and killing dogs is worse than speeding and getting into a wreck that kills someone.
    U cant be 4 real!![/QUOTE]


    torturing animals mean u are very fucked up in the head,and probbly need to be on meds in a mental hospital

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    Motherfucker i aint say it was right to fight dogs
    So shut ur bitch ass up talkin to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Big
    Motherfucker i aint say it was right to fight dogs
    So shut ur bitch ass up talkin to me
    wow,your real showing your high IQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad
    how your real showing your high IQ
    I dont get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Big
    I dont get it?
    point proven



    and again getting into an accident and killing someone is not worse than purposely torturing and killing dogs.

    Yes he was speeding, but no he wasnt drunk.

    and you know that all hunters dont kill for meat how? again I never said they did, just the ones I know. But there are plenty of others that hunt for the trophy (head and rack) and according to the guy I buy my deer meat from most of those are slaughtered and the meat sold.

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    yea whatever yall think or think yall know
    Aint bout to argue bout how u think bout dogs having more of a
    right to live more than ur own self
    Last edited by Mr.Big; 09-27-2007 at 09:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Big
    yea whatever yall think or think yall know
    Aint bout to argue bout how u think bout dogs having more of a
    right to live more than ur own self

    what did you just say? Try english this time.

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    I understood exactly what he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick
    I understood exactly what he said.
    would you mind translating?

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    man let me ask you this jimmy, if someone killed one of your family members because he wanted to show out and be a badass in his car, how would you honestly feel if all they got was a slap on the wrist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Big
    yea whatever yall think or think yall know
    Aint bout to argue bout how u think bout dogs having more of a
    right to live more than ur own self
    Despite whatever you think you know. I'm not going to argue about you view of a dog having a right to live, rather than a person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad
    County Prosecutor Plans to Indict Vick

    By HANK KURZ Jr., AP Sports Writer

    document.write(getElapsed("20070925T032000Z"));2 hours agoUPDATED 19 MINUTES AGO

    Atlanta Falcons football player Michael Vick leaves federal court ...


    RICHMOND, Va. - The prosecutor in the rural county where Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick has admitted to bankrolling a dogfighting operation plans to present "a host of bills of indictment" regarding the case to a grand jury on Tuesday.

    "Yes, I'm presenting matters to the grand jury that involve dogfighting at 1915 Moonlight Road," Surry County Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald G. Poindexter told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Monday night.

    Moonlight Road is the address of the two story home on 15 mostly undeveloped acres that has been host to "Bad Newz Kennels" since 2001. It's where dozens of pit bulls were found in April, and where they were trained, fought and brutally executed.

    "Most of the matters that I'm presenting have already been admitted in sworn statements authored by the defendants in the federal proceedings," Poindexter said.

    He couldn't detail the exact indictments he will pursue, but said the local investigation and the federal investigation largely focused on different crimes.

    "The killing of dogs is one of those statutory prohibitions. Dogfighting is a crime, the mistreatment of animals is a crime, so you could take your pick, or take them all," Poindexter said before cutting the conversation short. "I don't have anything else to say about it. I'm through with it. Hopefully it's coming to an end."

    Vick, his co-defendants and lawyers will not attend the closed proceeding.

    Efforts to reach Vick's lawyers by telephone and e-mail were not successful.

    Vick and three co-defendants have already pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges in the case, and all are awaiting sentencing in federal court before the end of the year.

    Vick, who faces up to five years in prison, also has been indefinitely suspended without pay by the NFL and been dropped by all his major sponsors, including Nike.

    The local charges, and a conviction, could spell an end to any hope he has of resuming his NFL career after serving a likely federal prison term. An animal cruelty charge in Virginia is punishable by up to five years in prison, and he admitted in his written plea to helping kill six to eight pit bulls days before the first raid.

    That alone could expose him to as many as 40 years in prison.

    Vick, in his written plea, also admitted to supplying money for gambling on the fights involving Bad Newz Kennels dogs. He said he did not personally place any bets or share in any winnings, but gave his three co-defendants all those proceeds.

    The co-defendants, all of whom pleaded guilty before Vick and detailed what they said was his involvement, agreed to testify against him had the case gone to trial.

    The case began in late April when authorities conducting a drug investigation of Vick's cousin raided the former Virginia Tech star's property and seized dozens of dogs, most of them pit bulls, and equipment commonly associated with dogfighting.

    Six weeks later, with the local investigation perceived to be dragging and a search warrant allowed to expire, federal agents arrived with their own search warrants and started digging up dog carcasses buried days before the first raid.

    Poindexter, who had been widely criticized for the pace of the investigation, reacted angrily when the feds moved in, suggesting that Vick's celebrity was a draw, or that their pursuit of the case could have racial overtones. He later eased off those comments, saying that the sides would simply be pursuing parallel investigations.
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