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  1. 09-24-2007, 11:46 PM #1
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    Default sr20det - full build style ????

    just curious, i was talking with someone the other day, and they tried telling me that its possible to build a sr20(240 style) around 600rwhp at max boost lvl and still be reliable even with a fully built sr20 tranny. All the research i have ever done says that anything over 500rwhp is VERY VERY unreliable and might only get a few passes out of it! THis argument started when i said for the money its smarter to just put a 2jz motor into a 240, and be very very very reliable at 600rwhp! becuase i now that it would take 15-20k to build a very strong and reliable motor, which would also be around the same for a 2jz swap.

    Just seeing what others think, and if my thoughts on the sr20 are incorrect!?!?!?!?!
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    thats very untrue. theres many setups with 550-600whp on stock internals. i think the record was 630 on stock block and internals...

    500 should be reliable , and reliability always depends on how it is built/tuned/quality of parts...

    http://pittspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18072
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  3. 09-24-2007, 11:56 PM #3
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    A few passes? If everyone would quit thinking in a straight line we might get somewhere

    Lets think about this, if you want a reliable 600hp do you start with a 200hp 2.0 liter or a 320hp 3.0 liter?
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    of course if you want all horsepower, go with the 2jz...

    i still dont see why people always compare inline 6 twin turbo to inline 4 single turbo...and about 4k in difference of price.

    sr holds its own even against that...

    and wtf is "max boost lvl"

    but seriously though , reliability claims can not be held against the engine. its all about the tune and the build.
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    max boost level? 600+hp can be very reliable, or can be a time bomb, depends on who built it, and the tune. This is true for for any car/engine combination, the 2jz could be built to 400hp and explode its first drive if someone f-cks up the build/tune.
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    I can tell you first hand since I have built a 450whp and a 850whp 2jz240 that if 600whp with reliability is the goal, the 2jz wins hands down. Without going into a 5 page report on the subject at hand think of it this way. Which would last longer, A fully built 2jz making 1200whp that is acually driven or a stock bottom 2jz that is making 400whp.

    Now do the dame with the with the sr. YOu want a 200whp motor to make 3 times its original safely and more reliable than the 2jz that only wants to double its hp with a block that can triple it without modification OK I am done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutling
    max boost level? 600+hp can be very reliable, or can be a time bomb, depends on who built it, and the tune. This is true for for any car/engine combination, the 2jz could be built to 400hp and explode its first drive if someone f-cks up the build/tune.

    All things equal, oem bottom end from a 2jz plus just a single and fuel will last longer than a fully built everthing modded sr motor and tranny. I loved my sr but there is 200 2jz's making 600ish whp to every 1 600whp sr. Why is that?
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    I wasnt comparing the two, or putting them on equal levels. just answering his question that you could have a reliable hi-hp sr

    more 600+2jz because its easier, a single and fuel like you said would do it. takes a lot more for a sr, and a lot of people dont want to do that
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    Im very curious as to whether people have been able to make big power with the sr stroker kits. I know there is BC kit out and I think a tomei kit. The BC is like 2.31 stroker and the tomei kit is like a 2.2. When I graduate from college Ive been thinking of treating myself to a decent car or having a stroker motor sr just because with the right exhaust that thing has to sound flat out nasty. A little off topic but I just put the buddy club spec 2 exhaust which is basically a straight pipe on my 280whp sr and it sounds sick!
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    fuck tha SR...RB26deTT!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    A few passes? If everyone would quit thinking in a straight line we might get somewhere

    Lets think about this, if you want a reliable 600hp do you start with a 200hp 2.0 liter or a 320hp 3.0 liter?
    lol hey i do what i am best at! lol when you going to be back on there anyways!

    also thanks....alot of people put up the same argument i did. I figured it was smarter that spending 15k on a 600rwhp sr, like veryone said prefect tune, build and everything, was jsut smarter and WAY more realiable to put that into a 2jz and not have to worry about it fucking up or almost going all the time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wunquikser
    fuck tha SR...RB26deTT!!!
    lets be realistic jackass
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    Quote Originally Posted by 350ZFTW
    lets be realistic jackass
    who you calling jackass punk bitch!! it was just a suggestion homie..

    i've seen it happen with less than $15k..
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    rb26 not unrealistic but not practical for what he is trying to do. he will come out cheaper wit a 2jz.

    Tell your bud to go 2j. he will be very happy. i have a built SR and for the money if i had to do it over, 2jz ftw. I am like Jeremy, i love my SR but in reality the 2J is just a better buy hands down. wish i had known
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    check out this link. Its a s13 with a t66.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQkiapklSiI
    same guy on highway on pump gas
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDzomql1wEE
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