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    Default clutch question, input needed.

    alright, so ive been going back and forth on a clutch setup for my swap.

    IA, would you run a badass clutch with a stock flywheel? pros and cons would be nice.

    would keeping the stock heavy ass flywheel defeat the purpose?
    just throw some opinions at me.


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    Like a 6 puck clutch or something along those lines?

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    a lightweight flywheel will just make the engine rev a tad bit quicker. it will not effect how well the clutch grabs. but if you do wind up using a stock/used flywheel i do recommend having it turned.
    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    And I do drive a Miata, so I am gayer than a three dollar bill...

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    yeah pretty much.

    i was thinking about a competition clutch stage 2 six puck, with a stock flywheel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeAOne View Post
    yeah pretty much.

    i was thinking about a competition clutch stage 2 six puck, with a stock flywheel.
    If you plan on DD'ing it as much as you do, then i'd recommend you stay with a full disc. If you do get a lightweight flywheel, you may lose a little top end too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by slostang View Post
    a lightweight flywheel will just make the engine rev a tad bit quicker. it will not effect how well the clutch grabs. but if you do wind up using a stock/used flywheel i do recommend having it turned.
    if i did go oem i was going to get a brand new one so i dont think that would be needed. i just feel like if i get a new one might as well spend a little more and go aftermarket.


    thanks for the input sir.


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    if i did go aftermarket on both, this is what i was looking at. cant afford CompClutch on both clutch and flywheel..lol

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...=STRK:MEWAX:IT


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeAOne View Post
    if i did go oem i was going to get a brand new one so i dont think that would be needed. i just feel like if i get a new one might as well spend a little more and go aftermarket.


    thanks for the input sir.
    if you are gonna replace it with a new one, i say spend a little extra bread and get the lightweight. alot of aftermarket flywheels have replaceable contact pads so in theory you will never have to buy another flywheel or have it turned, just buy a new pad. plus of course its gonna help unlock a couple ponies.
    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    And I do drive a Miata, so I am gayer than a three dollar bill...

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    Quote Originally Posted by slostang View Post
    if you are gonna replace it with a new one, i say spend a little extra bread and get the lightweight. alot of aftermarket flywheels have replaceable contact pads so in theory you will never have to buy another flywheel or have it turned, just buy a new pad. plus of course its gonna help unlock a couple ponies.
    good points from both of you guys.


    i think i may just suck it up and spend some money. what do you think of that link i posted?


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    looks like a good deal

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    I've heard either great or horrible feedback on the F1 and xtd clutches like that on ebay. I haven't ever bought one, so i can't really say for m.. haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dallasb84 View Post
    looks like a good deal
    And that my friends, is how they reel you in. Lol.

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    lol. i had an xtd stage 1 with 11lb flywheel in my old accord, and it was alright. grabbed ok and the pedal wasnt too stiff or too soft. then again i only drove it about 100 miles before i sold it. lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeAOne View Post
    lol. i had an xtd stage 1 with 11lb flywheel in my old accord, and it was alright. grabbed ok and the pedal wasnt too stiff or too soft. then again i only drove it about 100 miles before i sold it. lol
    1/5 of the break in.. Lol.

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    well i got an xtd...... n its just fine so what of it only diff is i payed 90 bux 2 my door

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    any flywheel lighter than 11 lbs is annoying to drive.


    anything higher than stage 2 clutch is a fucking annoyance to drive.
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    what does a really light flywheel feel like to drive?

    ive always had either stock or the 11lb i talked about.


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    i bought that ebay kit but i went with the stage 3 because i read on honda tech that ne thing lower than stage 3 are crap.

    but my clutch lasted about 5 months tops and i only drive mine for racing. its not a DD.

    i just bought a comp clutch that i am about to install and bought a new friction plate for my lightweight flywheel for $60 at summit



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    Like others have said, if you DD this vehicle, keep the full disc and stock flywheel. I drove my friends boosted Si with a light ass flywheel...it SUUUCKED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeAOne View Post
    what does a really light flywheel feel like to drive?

    ive always had either stock or the 11lb i talked about.
    it just revs pretty fast and the response is quick..

    but i say get that one stock fw that was lighter than the others and a stock clutch..

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    Plus, lighter flywheel better for say...auto-x. Stock flywheel better for drag. Lighter flywheel will make you lose some on your launch.
    97 DX Civic w/ H22 FS

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    thanks for the opinions guys...reps to who i can get.

    after some more searching, i think im going to go with this:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

    its only stage 1 so its basically a stock clutch, and its the same price as a stock clutch from autozone. i will probably run this and a stock flywheel.


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    yeah that should be just fine......

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlipKing View Post
    Plus, lighter flywheel better for say...auto-x. Stock flywheel better for drag. Lighter flywheel will make you lose some on your launch.

    yes.

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    The ligher flywheel puts less strain on your crank and is better for faster shifting. but it also makes your revs drop much faster also.
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    why wood you lose on the launch??^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMGRNAV6 View Post
    why wood you lose on the launch??^^^^

    less momentum from the flywheel?


    it makes sense, a 18lb object spinning has more snatch than a 8lb object spinning.



    if it were me, id 8lb that flywheel and get a 6puck with a strong pressure plate, makes future drivers miserable lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMGRNAV6 View Post
    why wood you lose on the launch??^^^^

    more spin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Power View Post
    less momentum from the flywheel?


    it makes sense, a 18lb object spinning has more snatch than a 8lb object spinning.



    if it were me, id 8lb that flywheel and get a 6puck with a strong pressure plate, makes future drivers miserable lol

    sounds like a bitch of a setup for daily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humphries View Post
    sounds like a bitch of a setup for daily.

    yeah it was... i had it, for a whole year it was harsh. but it made me look cool

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    i bet.. i drove my friends b13 sentra ser with a 6 puck and 7lb fidanza.

    i wanted to kill the car. it was sooooo fucking annoying.
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    yeah i dont want to have back pain everytime i get done driving my car. also a huge left calf. lol


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    my knee starts to cramp when im done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlipKing View Post
    Plus, lighter flywheel better for say...auto-x. Stock flywheel better for drag. Lighter flywheel will make you lose some on your launch.
    no, wrong:.

    its all about clutch control

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    i'd like to hear some actual reasoning as to why a lightweight flywheel is not good for drag racing....


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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmastertech View Post
    i'd like to hear some actual reasoning as to why a lightweight flywheel is not good for drag racing....


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    Maybe I'm wrong, but I've always heard that like was mention before, the lighter flywheel will bog off the line in a launch, while the heavier flywheel snatches harder.
    97 DX Civic w/ H22 FS

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    my old car with 8lb'er and a 6puck felt faster going from 1st - 3rd than stock, but then again.. my buttcheeks could be lieing to me

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    hell, i've got a CC stage 2 with a stock flywheel.... drives just fine



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    Quote Originally Posted by FlipKing View Post
    Maybe I'm wrong, but I've always heard that like was mention before, the lighter flywheel will bog off the line in a launch, while the heavier flywheel snatches harder.
    you have it reversed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    And I do drive a Miata, so I am gayer than a three dollar bill...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SandM View Post
    hell, i've got a CC stage 2 with a stock flywheel.... drives just fine
    i had the same setup in my ef. it was fine till you got to sit in some traffic. then it was cable clutch + 2200lb pressure plate = in traffic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
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