Question for those who carry a gun in the car

**tony** · 12-05-2005, 09:55 AM

Two scenarios..

One.. you're stopped at a red light blocked in from the front and another car pulls beside you, the passenger gets out and walks over to your door and tells you to get out of the car while showing you a pistol but it is not pointed at you, what are you going to do?

The second scenario is the same but the pistol is actually pointed at you. Just curious..

**WTF..kebe** · 12-05-2005, 09:58 AM

dump that shit in reverse n get the hell out of there...truthfully i would have no clue what i would do in a situation like that ...

**AtifSajid** · 12-05-2005, 10:00 AM

If I was by myself or with the family, I would get out of the car and tell him have a great time in the car and let him have my car..aint nothing worth more than my life or my families.

**B16a2 Civic** · 12-05-2005, 10:00 AM

the one not pointed at me, i'ld pull mine out and tell him to back up (this is see'n he has teh only gun and is the only threat)
now with teh gun pointed at me, i'd let them get th ecar and hope teh red light has a camera in it.

**Julio** · 12-05-2005, 10:02 AM

depends really.. sometime is just better to let them take the car...

Also, depends where the gun is located too.. you never know, one dumb move can get you blasted.

**AznTraitor** · 12-05-2005, 10:02 AM

well, if I was at a traffic light and stopped and there was no traffic going in any direction, I'd probably run the light....if there was traffic and no one behind me, I'd throw it in reverse and punch it. In any case, I know for a fact that I wouldnt have had my gun locked and loaded and pointed at person before he fired at me seeing me reach for it.

but if I had to run thru the intersection, I'd probably go up about 100yds and then stop and reach for my gun and unload the first clip into his car, and then load up the second one and get ready for him.

if I had to backup, same thing, I'd go about 100yds and unload about a clip into the car, and have the second mag ready for him.

**Nitro** · 12-05-2005, 10:03 AM

since i daily drive with a 9...................i keep 1 in the chamber for situations like this..........shoot the closest one...or most threatening. i.e...with gun.
not to kill but to wound pretty badly......he has to be alive when the cops get there....& hopefully they will see the car set-up/trap.....ya dig?

**Jon00** · 12-05-2005, 10:03 AM

let the fucker take my car so i can get a new one

**AznTraitor** · 12-05-2005, 10:04 AM

my gun is stuffed between myseat and my center console in a soft case, so it's pretty close, but I'd still make it a point to put some distance between myself and the attacker.

**The Golden Child** · 12-05-2005, 10:04 AM

well for the 1st one id pull it in reverse if i was alone, but if i was with friends and family id let them take it. for the second one they won.

**B16a2 Civic** · 12-05-2005, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by AznTraitor

my gun is stuffed between myseat and my center console in a soft case, so it's pretty close, but I'd still make it a point to put some distance between myself and the attacker.

same with me....

**AznTraitor** · 12-05-2005, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by nitrodon1

since i daily drive with a 9...................i keep 1 in the chamber for situations like this..........shoot the closest one...or most threatening. i.e...with gun.
not to kill but to wound pretty badly......he has to be alive when the cops get there....& hopefully they will see the car set-up/trap.....ya dig?

shit son, you better step it up and drop that 9 and get at least a .40!

tests and studies have shown that you can take multiple hits with a 9mm before going down.....1 hit with a .40 is usually plenty to take the person down.

**Nitro** · 12-05-2005, 10:06 AM

i get pulled over way to much anyway........just keep it on the passenger seat when you're on the road

just incase.

**Nitro** · 12-05-2005, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by AznTraitor

shit son, you better step it up and drop that 9 and get at least a .40!

tests and studies have shown that you can take multiple hits with a 9mm before going down.....1 hit with a .40 is usually plenty to take the person down.

+1 hook up hook up....lol

**chnco** · 12-05-2005, 10:09 AM

Did you guys see that police chase in California just recently?

Dude was running from the cops, got out of his car to jack another car, held the other car at gun point, and the other guy just floored it.

**AznTraitor** · 12-05-2005, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by nitrodon1

+1 hook up hook up....lol

you can get a Smith & Wesson SWSV40E (their copy of a GLOCK) for under $300 brand new at any gun show. I bought two, just for the hell of it because they were so cheap, and they fire perfectly. Trigger is a little heavy, but other than that, a solid performer. I've put about 2000rnds thru both, and they've fired the cheapest of ammo with no problems....my old rutger was a piece....it would never fire walmart ammo...always jammed....but with the SWSV40E's no sweat. Disassembly and cleaning are a breeze, because there's only like 4-5 parts....

**Julio** · 12-05-2005, 10:12 AM

Now that I think about ... I think most of us would be scared as shit hahahahaha..

Sucks to see your life flash inf front of you.. so... hnmm..

**B16a2 Civic** · 12-05-2005, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by AznTraitor

you can get a Smith & Wesson SWSV40E (their copy of a GLOCK) for under $300 brand new at any gun show. I bought two, just for the hell of it because they were so cheap, and they fire perfectly. Trigger is a little heavy, but other than that, a solid performer. I've put about 2000rnds thru both, and they've fired the cheapest of ammo with no problems....my old rutger was a piece....it would never fire walmart ammo...always jammed....but with the SWSV40E's no sweat. Disassembly and cleaning are a breeze, because there's only like 4-5 parts....

hey Peter, wanna see one of em?

**AznTraitor** · 12-05-2005, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Julio

Now that I think about ... I think most of us would be scared as shit hahahahaha..

Sucks to see your life flash inf front of you.. so... hnmm..

hell nah son.....I get M-16's, and AK's, an AT4's pointed at my ass every now and then.....you dont sweat the small stuff anymore...haha

**4dmin** · 12-05-2005, 10:14 AM

if the gun is pointed at me i would let them take the car... if the gun wasnt i would pull my gun... but i don't know in the heat of the situation i may pull no matter what... just b/c you give the guy your car doesn't mean you aren't going to get shot... so like they always say a good defense is a good offense

**AznTraitor** · 12-05-2005, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by B16a2 Civic

hey Peter, wanna see one of em?

what? are you asking me a question or do you want to show me something?

**tony** · 12-05-2005, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by chnco

Did you guys see that police chase in California just recently?

Dude was running from the cops, got out of his car to jack another car, held the other car at gun point, and the other guy just floored it.

Damn, I'm not going to say its useless to carry a gun in the car because there are other scenarios but some people are so bold it seems like it would just aggravate the situation even more. I've been doing some reading and in most carjackings the gun is mainly used to persuade, as if to say the carjacker really wouldn't use the gun.

I remember here in college park there was a cop that was carjacked in his driveway, he ended up dying but he was also able to shoot one of the carjackers as they tried to get away.

**AznTraitor** · 12-05-2005, 10:18 AM

this is what I'm usually carrying.

**B16a2 Civic** · 12-05-2005, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by AznTraitor

what? are you asking me a question or do you want to show me something?

Lol, i meant to say sell .....my bad
oh yeah, Bills girlfriend brother (adrian) said he is gonna throw a party for new years at his crib out on county road....you goin?

**A.P. Photography** · 12-05-2005, 10:23 AM

In the first scenario if my gun was easily accessible then I would shot to kill (read headshot) the guy closest. Odds are after I shot the other guy will run, but if not blast him as he is getting out of the car. Seeing as how I drive a bone stock civic I don't think I have to worry.

Second scenario, they can have it.

**AznTraitor** · 12-05-2005, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by B16a2 Civic

Lol, i meant to say sell .....my bad
oh yeah, Bills girlfriend brother (adrian) said he is gonna throw a party for new years at his crib out on county road....you goin?

nah, my friends back in ATL are having a party and I've promised them already.

**tony** · 12-05-2005, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by GA_Teg

In the first scenario if my gun was easily accessible then I would shot to kill (read headshot) the guy closest. Odds are after I shot the other guy will run, but if not blast him as he is getting out of the car. Seeing as how I drive a bone stock civic I don't think I have to worry.

Second scenario, they can have it.

Does self defense hold up in court if you shoot though? Not criticizing what you've said, its just something that has been on my mind lately.

**AznTraitor** · 12-05-2005, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by tony

Does self defense hold up in court if you shoot though? Not criticizing what you've said, its just something that has been on my mind lately.

yes, in the state of GA, if you are being car jacked, you are authorized to protect your property at your discretion.

**Big Baller** · 12-05-2005, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by nitrodon1

since i daily drive with a 9...................i keep 1 in the chamber for situations like this..........shoot the closest one...or most threatening. i.e...with gun.
not to kill but to wound pretty badly......he has to be alive when the cops get there....& hopefully they will see the car set-up/trap.....ya dig?

You dont ever shoot to wound. That is retarded. If you are going to shoot someone you shoot to kill.

Matt

**Nitro** · 12-05-2005, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Big Baller

You dont ever shoot to wound. That is retarded. If you are going to shoot someone you shoot to kill.

Matt

note i said....................PRETTY BADLY....not really interested in killing someone unless my wife & son is with me & the situation requires it.

**A.P. Photography** · 12-05-2005, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by nitrodon1

note i said....................PRETTY BADLY....not really interested in killing someone unless my wife & son is with me & the situation requires it.

Regardless, you never shoot to wound in a two person set up. You can't watch both people so there is a greater chance of you getting killed. First guy that comes up if you can, head shot, he is down no need to worry and you can focus on the second guy or try getting away. Your life is worth more at that point than wounding someone and them possibly killing you. Think about your family if they are with you or not, you would not want them to be with out you in either case.

**chnco** · 12-05-2005, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by nitrodon1

note i said....................PRETTY BADLY....not really interested in killing someone unless my wife & son is with me & the situation requires it.

If you aren't going to shoot to kill, why don't you just give him a hug and tell him his father still loves him?

**A.P. Photography** · 12-05-2005, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by chnco

If you aren't going to shoot to kill, why don't you just give him a hug and tell him his father still loves him?

so true

**The Golden Child** · 12-05-2005, 10:46 AM

so you can kill someone in georgia and get away with self-defense ??

**Pher** · 12-05-2005, 10:46 AM

It would be easy... get out and tell them to enjoy the new ride with a smile on my face. I'm not going to lose my life for some stupid car. F that.

**A.P. Photography** · 12-05-2005, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by nolimitsteveo

so you can kill someone in georgia and get away with self-defense ??

If it was truly in self defense, yes.

**The Golden Child** · 12-05-2005, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by GA_Teg

If it was truly in self defense, yes.

yea in that matter of course but thats crazy taking a life but i guess it all turns up the same at the end when he obviously wanted urs for a car.

**Nitro** · 12-05-2005, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by GA_Teg

Regardless, you never shoot to wound in a two person set up. You can't watch both people so there is a greater chance of you getting killed. First guy that comes up if you can, head shot, he is down no need to worry and you can focus on the second guy or try getting away. Your life is worth more at that point than wounding someone and them possibly killing you. Think about your family if they are with you or not, you would not want them to be with out you in either case.

u right tho dawg.....

**The Golden Child** · 12-05-2005, 10:53 AM

for tony did this happen to you or just thought about it ??

**Rican219** · 12-05-2005, 10:54 AM

So who here would go out like Kane's Cousin Harlod?

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