i don't normally post in here but here you go, there was a really annoying sounding 90 box style civic hatch running w/ a b16 making tons of noise speeding up slowing down over and over again...
needless to say i pulled up on him and didnt have to change gears before seeing him in the rear view, i figured the weight would of made a difference but it didn't. i straight walked that civic; torque wins!!!