DB8-2NVY....BAD/LIAR!!!!!!!!

[SL33P3R]

ok i was just amking sure.

but something does sound fishy, either taylor didnt buy what he thought he bought, or someone is stealing his parts.

either way, good luck getting to the bottom of this shit

Both, Likpaki, your so full of shit its not even funny, ANDREW TOLD ME THAT HE TOOK YOUR CAR AROUND ATL WITH MY TURBO ON IT, AND YOU SAY THAT CAR NEVER CAME UP HERE, IT WAS ALWAYS IN FLORIDA.



Oh and LILPAKI you did have a h22 with 834WHP?



FIMotorsportsTJM (7:34:20PM): Does your sister have a 834WHP hatch
FIMotorsportsTJM (7:34:26PM):did*
CrAcK PoT DeSi (7:34:40PM): LOL
CrAcK PoT DeSi (7:34:41PM): no




PWNED

[SL33P3R]

oh, and CrAcK PoT DeSi is LILPAKI's brother

[Vteckidd]

I DID have a conversation with Andrew where he claimed MY TURBO (the T3/T67) that Taylor sold him was "burning oil" but yet he is no claiming he never ran the turbo.

someone is lying

[drmcivicsi]

damn taylor i dont like you at all but, but u doing a good job now. atleast u aint the one getting owned this time around!

[SL33P3R]

Andrew said something like this about the t3/t67 i traded him

"We put it on my girlfriends hatch, and it ran fine, but a little laggy" and he mentioned where he took it, and it was smoewhere in the Gnet area, NOT FLORIDA

[Vteckidd]

they are full of shit, if they had a 800whp car, i would know about it.

dont you think its convieniant that they magically sold the car an it never drove?
dont you think its funny how they claim a 300whp Del SOl and its never been dynoed?
this is the same crew that XXEXTxxs12 dude hangs out with. ALl i hear from that camp is "blahblahblah" never any results.

whether the kid stole your cams or not, i dont know, but he is lying about the turbo thats for sure, and i wouldnt trust this lil paki or anyone else either. They seem thick as theives.

[SL33P3R]

Funny thing is, I saw taht andrew was viewing this thread, and he didnt post, HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[SL33P3R]

LIKPAKI so you bought andrew the $1,100 FULL RACE TURBO? YOUR SUPPOSIDLY HIS WIFE SO YOU MUST HAVE BOUGHT IT FOR HIM, WHAT A NICE WIFE

[an0therh22]

**grabs popcorn**

[UpSideDownDesi]

sleeper...you talk a lot outta your ass than your mouth. Andrew is a 100% strainght up, trustable person. I have known Andrew for a while and have trusted him nuff to leave my cars with him and at his disposal (without insurance) and got them back perfect (not a part missing). I don't understand that they have reciepts for the stuff they bought and you still don't get it. If you didn't trust him...why did you leave your stuff with him the first place?? If he was doing you wrong...why didn't you pull out the first time...you went back 3 times...even a dumbass will understand the first time that someone is rippin him off?? He has plently of vouches and i am just smelling something fishy from your side. You fucked up and now just want to blame someone else.

[SL33P3R]

All this happen at ONE TIME at my buddies house. IT WASNT EVEN AT ANDREWS HOUSE. It was at BUCKY's HOUSE. I dont even know who you are but you need to just shut the fuck up. Andrew comes off as a real nice guy I know. But Im an easy target. Its easy to steal from a 16 year old girl. HE TOLD ME THAT HE PUT CROWER 404 CAMS IN MY HEAD, I SOLD MY HEAD SAYING IT HAD CROWER 404 CAMS AND IT ENDED UP HAVING STOCK LS CAMS, HE FUCKED ME. Ive had 2 people tell me they saw him walk to his car WITH MY TURBO that night.

Why hasnt he posted then? I saw him looking in here, stay outta the thread, this is a thread for ANDREW, not you. As soon as parts started getting lost, i went to buckys house and took all my parts until it was time to do the install

I didnt fuck up and im not blamming anyone, stop swingin on his nuts

[Vteckidd]

I guess andrew needs to speak up about why:

Taylors head had no 404 cams in it
Why was his turbo stolen

I think taylor needs to have the guy who bought his LS head with 404s post on here as well to state the cams were not 404s

[thepolecat]

**grabs popcorn**

[SL33P3R]

Only thing that makes me mad is when i asked him and told him my strut bar was missing after i put it in his matrix, he acts like its no big deal and trys to drop it

But the cam thing is totally shady, he knew they were stock cams all along, i didnt because i was new with hondas and didnt knwo the difference, cams were cams to me

[SL33P3R]

I guess andrew needs to speak up about why:

Taylors head had no 404 cams in it
Why was his turbo stolen

I think taylor needs to have the guy who bought his LS head with 404s post on here as well to state the cams were not 404s

Ya, Im waiting on the guy to get on AIM so I can ask him to register and post the pics and stuff. He isnt a member on here

[SL33P3R]

And for the turbo, according to andrew and MIKE (bucky on the boards) they were the only ones who knew where my turbo was (on the floor board of the passenger seat) they were the only ones, then all of a sudden its gone. Then BUCKY feels responsible and bought a turbo from andrew. So if BUCKY stole my turbo then why would he go out and buy me another turbo? makes no sense, and then Andrew just keeps saying "i dont know what to tell you man" etc. so mike(bucky) bought me another turbo


either way, look at the strut bar incident. where is my strut bar? I PUT IT IN ANDREWS car, and now its gone? and he has no idea where it is?

[soplocar]

yo, taylor and vteckidd, i am the one to take the blame for the t3\t67 turbo, by the way it was not the H.O like taylor stated... it was the regular t67. anyways, i am the one that ran the turbo and it leaked oil, but i i found out that i was not the turbo, it was my head.... now i am the one responsible for it...
now what else do u wanna say?? about your strut bar, we went to nopi one day, me paki and andrew, and we bought the skunk2 bar plus some other things, and i have proff of purchase.
next!!!!!!

[Vteckidd]

ok, lets keep it about the ISSUES. your making this too confusing. he said she said, i left it at a buddies house it wasnt my buddies house, etc.

All i want is :

1) Andrew to come on here an explain politely the allegations that he stole your cams

2) Andrew to come on here an elaborate on when an where your turbo was stolen, and if it was stolen.

3) Id like to know why they claim the T3/T67 was NEVER RAN even though i myself had a CONVERSATION WITH ANDREW claiming that the turbo was bad, and that i ripped him off. THen he said it wasnt MY fault.

4) Id like a receipt posted for the Strut Bar in question.

5) Id like the person who purchased Taylors head to come on here, and post that the cams he got were indeed NOT 404s .

Other than that, please keep the posts to a minimum. I will be checking LOG IN times, if Andrew logs in an reads this thread an doesnt respond, then i will take that to be an admission of guilt.

If no receipt is posted for the strut bar, i will take that as an admission of guilt.

If a response is given that conflicts with Taylors reasoning, then i will consider this issue over with an delete the thread.

[UpSideDownDesi]

He comes up as a nice guy because he is a nice guy. Ever wondered that the person who bought head prbly fucked you over... head had 404, but BSed you it didn't??? Oh my bad you are 16...still in maturing stage..don't wry you'll hit VTEC soon lol. HMMMM 2 ppl saw him walk to his car with a turbo....damn they must have digital zoom in there eyes to idetify it from a distance (or where they escorting him??) or see your laser etched name on it right?? Now can you tell me why are you basing your BS story on "what people said or saw"......i see lotta people walking around with parts and put it in their cars...does it mean they stole it?? I guessing he hasn't posted because of your cryin lil ass who just doesn't understand and is basing his story from "What people have told you". As we all know if we start believing on "What people say" won't it be a great world. Well here's one for you.... someone stole my parts... funny thing is "they saw you walk outta Bucky's house with them...they looked EXACTLY like my parts. So i guess you got my parts huh?? Let me make a thread about you now. Hahah "This thread is about ANDEW, not you." So i guess i don't have the right to take a honest person's side. Seeing is believing son or daughter...whoever you are. Well guess what... you rant doesn't change a shit about him...i still trust him. Tank you, come again.

[Vteckidd]

yo, taylor and vteckidd, i am the one to take the blame for the t3\t67 turbo, by the way it was not the H.O like taylor stated... it was the regular t67. anyways, i am the one that ran the turbo and it leaked oil, but i i found out that i was not the turbo, it was my head.... now i am the one responsible for it...

Ok that clears that up.

now what else do u wanna say?? about your strut bar, we went to nopi one day, me paki and andrew, and we bought the skunk2 bar plus some other things, and i have proff of purchase.
next!!!!!!

Please scan or post the receipt from NOPI so we can close that issue as well.

[UpSideDownDesi]

ok, lets keep it about the ISSUES. your making this too confusing. he said she said, i left it at a buddies house it wasnt my buddies house, etc.

All i want is :

1) Andrew to come on here an explain politely the allegations that he stole your cams

2) Andrew to come on here an elaborate on when an where your turbo was stolen, and if it was stolen.

3) Id like to know why they claim the T3/T67 was NEVER RAN even though i myself had a CONVERSATION WITH ANDREW claiming that the turbo was bad, and that i ripped him off. THen he said it wasnt MY fault.

4) Id like a receipt posted for the Strut Bar in question.

5) Id like the person who purchased Taylors head to come on here, and post that the cams he got were indeed NOT 404s .

Other than that, please keep the posts to a minimum. I will be checking LOG IN times, if Andrew logs in an reads this thread an doesnt respond, then i will take that to be an admission of guilt.

If no receipt is posted for the strut bar, i will take that as an admission of guilt.

If a response is given that conflicts with Taylors reasoning, then i will consider this issue over with an delete the thread.

good post

[SL33P3R]

Ok, even a receipt wont clear up the strut bar issue, I put it in andrews car and BOOOM its gone, and andrew has NOOOOOO idea where it went

The guy i sold my head to is sending me my cams and cam gears back, he is legit, he took pics of my cams next to stock LS cams and they are stock. he sent pics of the cams to crower and crower said if they dont have the part number or CROWER on them, they arent crower. He also said he took it to a machine shop and measured the duration and lift and they were the same specs as stock

I called him, he is goin to register tomorrow, and post pics of my cams that i sent him, and then when his crowers get there, he is gonna post pics of CROWER 404 cams

[SL33P3R]

I never said that Andrew STOLE cams from me

He told me he had some 404's he was gona put in there

and i sold the head saying it had a full crower valve train with 404 cams, it did have a crower valve train minus the cams, and i sent the guy the head, and he told me they were stock cams, and i had to pay 400 out of pocket so he wouldnt use paypal to get all his money back from me. so basically i got fucked by andrew, and then i fucked the guy over i sold them too, then i got fucked again because i had to pay him 400 bucks, but the cams i sent him ar eon the way back to my house

[UpSideDownDesi]

I never said that Andrew STOLE cams from me

He told me he had some 404's he was gona put in there

and i sold the head saying it had a full crower valve train with 404 cams, it did have a crower valve train minus the cams, and i sent the guy the head, and he told me they were stock cams, and i had to pay 400 out of pocket so he wouldnt use paypal to get all his money back from me. so basically i got fucked by andrew, and then i fucked the guy over i sold them too, then i got fucked again because i had to pay him 400 bucks, but the cams i sent him ar eon the way back to my house

i just think you are making this shit up or the guy to whom you sold ur head to..... just gonna pop some stock LS cams and say "yup these are the one's my head came with". Why didn't you get the head checked before you sold it?? A smart person will get everything check after they get something done and time they are selling something. Like you don't believe Andrew how are suppose to believe you?????
P.S Even a dumb ass noob can tell diff between stock cam gears and after market

[SL33P3R]

i just think you are making this shit up or the guy to whom you sold ur head to..... just gonna pop some stock LS cams and say "yup these are the one's my head came with". Why didn't you get the head checked before you sold it?? A smart person will get everything check after they get something done and time they are selling something. Like you don't believe Andrew how are suppose to believe you?????
P.S Even a dumb ass noob can tell diff between stock cam gears and after market

Im not talkin about cam gears you fuckin noob, im talkin about the CAMS, NOT CAM GEARS

I will admit, andrew loaned me the cams and he told me when i got the money i could pay him, and supposidly they were CROWER 404's and i sold the head, and ended up having to pay 400 dollars for stock LS cams

[Vteckidd]

http://forums.importatlanta.com/show...2&page=4&pp=20


in that thread alot of "im getting XXXXXX" were claimed by taylor, but never happened.

so whose to know what actually happened, if you didnt buy your parts from a STORE an they werent BNIB, and now your saying that andrew LOANED them to you, you never even paid for them, i consider this matter closed.

Seems like you need to learn who to trust or do business with.

It would be different if you bought brand new cams, had a receiept, had this guy install them, then you sold the head an there was stock cams in it.

but now, the word is that you BORROWED some cams, that were 404s, and they ended up bineg stock. so you never paid for them in the first place.

sounds like the noob is you man, sorry.

LET THIS BE A LESSON TO ALL, DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON A CAR BUILD, TAKE IT TO SOMEONE WHO IS REPUTABLE AND WHO YOU CAN TRUST. IF ITS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT USUALLY IS.

LOCKED because the truth will never be known.

[SL33P3R]

It doesnt matter dude, MY STRUT BAR IS MISSING, PERIOD

[SL33P3R]

I want andrew to post, he was lookin in this thread

[BTEC]

ill post in here. what now?

[SL33P3R]

me 2

[Vteckidd]

they say they have a receipt for the stut bar.

But if this the case, you have had your car back for some weeks now, why wait until now to talk about it? why wait WEEKs later to bring it up?

[SL33P3R]

You need to keep this up so andrew can post mike, Just let it stay open, either way, my strut bar is missing, and he has NO idea where it is, thats a problem and i want this thread to stay open

[SL33P3R]

they say they have a receipt for the stut bar.

But if this the case, you have had your car back for some weeks now, why wait until now to talk about it? why wait WEEKs later to bring it up?

I asked him liek 2 days after i got it back, when i realized it was missing, and he had no idea where it was, and seemed like he didnt care

then i found out about the cams


and with the cams, i know he loaned them to me, but he lied to me about the cams, and then i sold them as i was told they were, and got fucked and had to pay 400 bucks, so thats shady

[Vteckidd]

its called BUYER BEWARE not seller BEWARE.

you should have known what you were buying

[SL33P3R]

Well i asked where was the crower stamping and he said "Some have them some dont" and i said " oh, i thought they all did" and he said "no" so i trusted him

[sohcd16y8]

Ok everyone, I was the one who bought the head from taylor and will give the whole story about what I got. When I took off the valve cover the first thing that struck me was the cams. They did not say crower on them or anything. I asked taylor about it and he said that some crowers or not marked. Now I was unsure of this so being the OCD guy i am i took them to a machine shop and had them gauged along with some stock ls cam I had. They were EXACTLY the same. SO then I was like WTF and called up tuners choice and had them pull some off the shelf to check them. The crower cams on the shelf not only had the name crower stamped in it, but also the part number. So then I called taylor and told him everything and he got me my money back and I shiped the cams back out. Now some of you may be thinking, hey, taylor prolly switched them out and is blaming someone else. I highly doubt that howver because everything else was as described. The valves, springs, retainer, intake, dist, where exact and those he all bought new. Th eonly thing that he bought from someone else was the cams, and thats all that there was a problem with. And seeing as he was unsure at first and that this seller has had a problemedd past I find it very likely that he lied and screwed taylor.

Props to taylor for being a good guy and taking care of his customers.

Here are the pics of the cams I got and stock Ls cams. I will post up pics on wed or thurs when I get my genuine crower 404's in and show how they should have been


The only diff between them at all is the top part of the cam, you can see that the stock one on the right has a lil ridge in it, whereas the "crower" on the left does not. Other then that they are exact. Hell the "crower" even has the factory 75 IN on it.

[IntegraXTR]

so......next?

[Vteckidd]

im not debating that YOU didnt get 404s, what im saying is:

Taylor BORROWED some cams from some guy. THe guy said they were 404s. Obviously they were not, but taylor never paid for them in the first place so.,...

you didnt get scammed, you got your money back, Taylor , whether he was scammed or not , only he an Andrew know. So there is no proving who did what to whom. and i find it odd that he is speaking up now WEEKS after he has had his car back.

What im saying is, if someone said to me "here is some ITR cams i had laying around, pay me for them when youy get some money". i take those cams, and just turn around an sell them to someone else for $400, an the new seller says "these arent ITR", whose fault is it?

Why didnt Taylor try to take care of this in person , why make a call out thread? something on BOTH sides doesnt sound right, someone isnt telling the whole truth, and with Taylors track record, i guess we will never know.

LOCKED.

[SL33P3R]

Thakns for posting Andy

[Vteckidd]

again this whole thread is based on 2 peoples words, and hear say. there is no proof on either side, its a he said she said.

so i would beware of both parties LOL