600 dollars stolen!

[Mr.MuayThai]

ok now i know im not supposed to mention any names, but i was wandering if anyone on IA has been scammed by this kid? His name is Brandon Thompson, he lives in Cedar Falls Iowa. he's 20 years old and lives with his mom! i bought a LS swap from him over 3 months ago and i haven't seen it yet, his phone number isn't working anymore either! If im in the wrong section please let me know! I just need to know what i can do and if anyone has had to deal with this kid! Thanks oh and his number is 319-269-0619. Someone help!


Update: 7-23-07

All of which is true, I did call!
I sent him another email today, this time it states. . . and i quote

"I want my money back now Brandon! I've been waiting on your ass for too long now! I've pm'd you on multiple sites, I've email you in just about every email you have! You can try to ignore this is you wish but i promise you it's going to come back and bite you in the ass!
I want my 600 dollars back! I've called the city of Waterloo's police department and filed a police report, They even said this isn't the first time they have had someone report your ass! They have had 6 or 7 other people call about you! They put a warrant out for your arrest, and do you know what else is funny? you stole 600 dollars of mine! That is a felony in the US!
Im sure im not the only person you have stolen this much money from! so im sure you have multiple felony's in your name! Im willing to forgive and forget if you send me my money back! All 600 dollars of it! no a penny short! I will call the police department and tell them to drop all the charges on you and tell them it was a misunderstanding! what do you say brandon? I have your street address, your tag number, and your work address if i want to talk to you i will!
you'll be hearing from me soon! I can promise you that, I need that money because Im off to thailand in september for the World Muay Thai Championships, and If i don't have that money, I can't go! This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for me! And if you fuck it up, well im sure you can guess what's going to happen!"



Update: 7-24-07 ok so i sent him the email that is above. Sure enough i got a responce, keep in mind this has been 3 almost 4 months! He sent me this and a few others.

#1- In plan text!
"I apologize I never received the remaining and I still have the motor
waiting for you as well. And I would be more than happy to go ahead and
refund not a problem give me a call on my new cell phone number. What
is
your number again? I apologize I switched my service. I was not
intending running out on you. What is your number I will call you this
weekend? I apologize one again Carey not trying to flake out on you. I
never received the remaining of the funds for the motor that I have
been
holding. Thanks again and I apologize. "



#2- In bigger letters and red text! Not kidding!

I will be getting you that refund I apologize again and will be sending that over to you the same way I receive the funds. And I understand you have a trip going. I actually moved out of town for work… thanks and I apologize




#3- Big text and red!

Oh and I need all your contact information again as well because when I moved I lost all of my information.
Currently I moved to Omaha, NE so if you would get me the information I will go ahead and send that to you more than likely mail because it will be easier to track and make sure it gets to you Carey Thanks again for emailing as I didn’t have your information.

Please send your information so we can resolve in a timely manner, one again I apologize a lot has been going on.

[Kyle]

Why did you give him $600 for nothing?

[addandrew]

Why did you give him $600 for nothing?

Werd

[Mr.MuayThai]

I didn't. . .i think you have misunderstood me? I sent him the money for him to send me the swap. . . He's not sending me the swap! his phone isn't working either! So what can i do?

[japan4racing]

sadly you cant do much of anything..how did you pay???? if you paid with a credit card you may be able to recover the money..but if it was transfered from your bank or if it was cash you are fucked. should have escrowed that shit

[puregroove]

escrow

+1 or paypal buyer protection. I know it's too late already, though. GL with that.

[Kyle]

I guess the lesson is, sadly, you can't trust people.

[addandrew]

I would hunt him down...lol.

[Mr.MuayThai]

I would hunt him down...lol.

I know where he lives! I have his address, and the best part is i have a Muay Thai tournament in Iowa in 3 weeks! I pay him a little visit that he wont forget :idb: ! I'll come back with more than 600 bux ! So is there nothing i can do? I sent the money with Money Gram through wal-mart. . . So is there anything i can do?

[AnthonyF]

I know where he lives! I have his address, and the best part is i have a Muay Thai tournament in Iowa in 3 weeks! I pay him a little visit that he wont forget :idb: ! I'll come back with more than 600 bux ! So is there nothing i can do? I sent the money with Money Gram through wal-mart. . . So is there anything i can do?

PLEASE bring another person with you that has a camera!!!!

[Mr.MuayThai]

PLEASE bring another person with you that has a camera!!!!

Yeah my girl is coming with me, She bringing the camera for the fights. . .but no that you say something about recording "the other fight" thats a damn good idea! +1 for you!

[iloveboost]

First mistaken: Buying an LS motor.

Second mistake: Paying with no form of recourse whatsoever.

Hope it somehow works out for you.

[Lownismo17]

I'm with him ^^^

[95alty]

Muay Thai his ass lol and bring me back some money too

[Mr.MuayThai]

Muay Thai his ass lol and bring me back some money too

Yeah Im thinking of doing something like that when i get there. . .

But i wont be bringing back just money, Im getting my parts. . .if they even exist? But seriously. . . what can i do? i mean asap! I need the money at this moment!

[TIGERJC]

I hope you can Muay Thai your cell mate off your ass if you do that

[Mr.MuayThai]

I hope you can Muay Thai your cell mate off your ass if you do that

Cell mate, Im only going to be there for. . . 2 days? something like that? I can do my thing and get the hell outta there!

[DRFTR]

Cell mate, Im only going to be there for. . . 2 days? something like that? I can do my thing and get the hell outta there!

that was until your dumbass posted it all over the net...have fun and don't drop the soap
-dave

[Mr.MuayThai]

that was until your dumbass posted it all over the net...have fun and don't drop the soap
-dave

Nah, Im just gonna shake him up a bit. Im not going to attack him or anything, but Im going to let him know that Im not fucking around! Who said i was going to kick his ass?

[thepolecat]

I dont think there is much you can do with a money order. A little vigilante justice will do him some good.

[Mr.MuayThai]

I dont think there is much you can do with a money order. A little vigilante justice will do him some good.

thats what i was thinking!

[seniosoul]

bought sense is the best sense

[JDMJAYDC2]

yeah i def would have used paypal cant count how many times its saved me. I think money grams have a number you can call for fradulant ppl though check you little receipt that you have to tear off on the side of the money order. If he lives with his mom just stop by his house and talk to her im sure she will make him get his act together ebarrassment FTW!

[AnthonyF]

appreciate it. record for your own viewing pleasure and of coarse ours! if we do this enough maybe people will stop stealing...hmmm....

[Mr.MuayThai]

appreciate it. record for your own viewing pleasure and of coarse ours! if we do this enough maybe people will stop stealing...hmmm....

Dude, I love making examples of people! Then show everyone they know! embarrass the fuck out of them, and then move on! I doubt he would ever steal again, and if he does then they can contact me! I go to Iowa ever so often to fight, so It wont be my last time up there!

[i4_garage]

fuk him up! *end of comment*

[integra82786]

I'm with the freelance merceneries. If I had an oportunity to be in the same town as the guy who robbed me, damn straight he's getting paid a visit! I got robbed in my own house and caught the dumb fucker before the cops could, and you better believe he remembers my name! And yes.... do bring a camera for all our viewing pleasure. Just make sure you don't show your face on film and the cops aint got shit!

[EG6]

Honesetly i'd get in touch w/the local pd and see if there's a way to trace it. It'd probably be helpful if you have some sort of reciept b/c technically it's a felony since it was more than $500. See if they can give you better legal advice. Sure it'd be nice if you beat his ass but that assualt charge would probably cost you more than $600 bucks. Good luck!

[Mr.MuayThai]

Honesetly i'd get in touch w/the local pd and see if there's a way to trace it. It'd probably be helpful if you have some sort of reciept b/c technically it's a felony since it was more than $500. See if they can give you better legal advice. Sure it'd be nice if you beat his ass but that assualt charge would probably cost you more than $600 bucks. Good luck!

Yeah i know it's a felony for more than $500 but if Im going to be in the same town as the unlucky bastard that stole my money Im going to MAKE him remember my name! Like the dude above you said^^^ I like his advice! Thanks though.

p.s. the only reason your advice wouldn't work is because i didn't get a receipt.

[o_bomb]

did you look up the info on the money order?? You can find out where he cashed it and when IF YOU STILL HAVE THE RECEIPT!!

[DRFTR]

hate to break it to you but you may as well kiss that money good bye...sorry that you had to learn the hard way...but i'm sure most of us have been had before...if you do do something...keep it to yourself and thats it...the more people that know about it the more mouths you have to worry about it...be smart
-dave

[BABY J]

Take it from a 2nd degree (JKD). You do not want to fight this guy - especially after posting this thread (pre-meditated). Even if you make a "nice" visit and things go down, you're in more trouble b/c of this thread. Furthermore, we (martial artists) get enuff shit from people JUST for being versed in a discipline. I've had total strangers approach me in a club JUST b/c people like you feel the need to flex your skills against some1 w/ minimal/NO fight experience and they wanna find out the hard way... they wanna take down some1 on the Nat'l Black Belt Registry b/c they think it's all smoke and mirrors or wanna look kool. WHAT'S THE POINT?? He's outsmarted you once - and unless you want a cell mate like some1 said he will do it twice by the time his lawyers are done w/ you - all for $600. There are ways to put the pressure on w/out laying a finger. Start w/ MoneyGram - if he has cashed his end of it then he is on paper WITH a signature. Also, print out all emails, IMs, and get your phone records of every call you have made w/ him (even if his number doesn't work). You can end up w/ a lot more than $600 (fees, travel fees, court costs, missed days from work, etc) if you do it quick and legally. My .02. GL bro - if you do pay him a visit, let it just be that unless you are threatened. Dunno who your MT teacher/mentor is, but unless he a wannabe hardass he'd be dissapointed in this plan to lay this guy out. That's BASIC rules of martial arts (restraint).... use your head, and stay kool.

[Mr.MuayThai]

Take it from a 2nd degree (JKD). You do not want to fight this guy - especially after posting this thread (pre-meditated). Even if you make a "nice" visit and things go down, you're in more trouble b/c of this thread. Furthermore, we (martial artists) get enuff shit from people JUST for being versed in a discipline. I've had total strangers approach me in a club JUST b/c people like you feel the need to flex your skills against some1 w/ minimal/NO fight experience and they wanna find out the hard way... they wanna take down some1 on the Nat'l Black Belt Registry b/c they think it's all smoke and mirrors or wanna look kool. WHAT'S THE POINT?? He's outsmarted you once - and unless you want a cell mate like some1 said he will do it twice by the time his lawyers are done w/ you - all for $600. There are ways to put the pressure on w/out laying a finger. Start w/ MoneyGram - if he has cashed his end of it then he is on paper WITH a signature. Also, print out all emails, IMs, and get your phone records of every call you have made w/ him (even if his number doesn't work). You can end up w/ a lot more than $600 (fees, travel fees, court costs, missed days from work, etc) if you do it quick and legally. My .02. GL bro - if you do pay him a visit, let it just be that unless you are threatened. Dunno who your MT teacher/mentor is, but unless he a wannabe hardass he'd be dissapointed in this plan to lay this guy out. That's BASIC rules of martial arts (restraint).... use your head, and stay kool.

You know what? Your right. . . I have learned better than this, Im just really pissed off right now! I lost my job thanks to this! So i mean there is way more to the story than what I've stated! My car isn't running, lost my job, and out 600 bux! Im really pissed at this kid! If given the chance to kick his ass would you if you where in the same situation as i? A lot of other people would agree with me in my situation! and about the whole thing with the IM's and emails is a good idea! I'll post them up! Thanks

[BABY J]

TRUST ME man... if you hurt this guy it will NOT be as rewarding as you think once it's all done. Not to mention, you'd still be out of $600. When I was in Okinawa there was an Army guy who had about 3 years Kenpo experience and talked $100 worth of shit. I instructed (JKD) at the Banyan Tree on Kadena 3 nights a week and he was one of the most popular regulars, but didn't want to train at the speed of the slowest person in the class and verbally made that known (he was good, but a hothead). I told him he was not welcome in my class unless he had something positive to offer. To make a long story short he-said she-said and we ended up at a bar outside of Kadena called The Hideaway where full-contact fights went down. I knew I had him covered, but agreed and hurt him pretty bad - I didn't feel good about it AT ALL and I still don't. Make sure you have a COOL HEAD when you go out there or your decision to fight may come back to haunt you. I am not telling you anything you don't already know. In that case the good guy (you) would lose in the end and I'd hate to see that. Think it out homey. Just use good judgement.

[ahmonrah]

kid.

you've got 3WEEKS to build up a solid case against this idiot that took you for 600 dollars. if you do show up make sure that you are flanked my L.E.O'S and a manila envelope.
beating the shit outta him would've been great in the 70's-90's, but at this point in time, with the judicial system handing out felonies like free cheese, it's best to use the time you have PRIOR to your arrival to:

1) gather all information of you and his interactions,
2) the deal that was made and
3) the proof that you sent money to him.
4) contact the local PD in his area, inform them of what took place
5) speak with a detective in his area PD and inform him of what is bringing YOU to his town, your tourney, which happened to be where the thief is from. and ask that someone accompany you to the guys house.

[ahmonrah]

you've got 3 weeks and NO JOB!!

there's no excuse for you not to get the smart way done.

[osiriskidd]

yea man i agree with ahmonrah and baby j. you should be above the fact that you just wanna flex on him. do it legally. i've done martial arts for about 10 years, and its at the point where you don't really ever wanna fight.

besides if you beat his ass, you're still out 600 dollars, and still out of a job, and car. bruises and broken bones heal. in the end he'd still have your 600 dollars.

do it the right way.

[BABY J]

Ahmonra - always a pleasure when you post. +1

[Mr.MuayThai]

Yeah i know, I've done some shit i regret too! I can talk all the shit i want. . . but in the end i probably wouldn't do anything to this kid! When i get mad i have this habit of getting really pissed when my shit gets stolen, there in lies my problem. . . But I like the list of advice thanks! Greatly appreciated guys!

[civic1hb]

what goes around comes around Mr.MuayThai and if u beat him up u will get charge with using a weapon cuz u know MuayThai