I didnt understand 1 word you typed...Please either go back to school or stop falling asleep in class..... dayumQuote:
Originally Posted by bus-a-vtec
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I didnt understand 1 word you typed...Please either go back to school or stop falling asleep in class..... dayumQuote:
Originally Posted by bus-a-vtec
i can promise that hatch would have pulled whatever you have.Quote:
Originally Posted by bus-a-vtec
im mexican nd our ppl arent the only race on this earth so plz dont be asses nd point the finger directly at us. just because alot of mexicans live in east point, everyone begins to assume, "O mexicans did it!" p.s. not every hispanic person is mexican so get that thru ur heads!!! im just sayin. n e wayz im sorry about the loss bro. i live in east point nd around here its RARE when i see another honda guy that acutally knows what he has. so if i see something suspecious it shouldnt be hard to point out. in fact PM me ur number so that if i do see something one of these days, ill call you right then and there!
Viva la mexico!
But seriously, phuck them theives. If you do find em, shot em. :rolleyes:
DAMN bro!! I don't even know you but I just read thru all 8 pgs here and all I can say is wow! Sorry they jammed your whip up like that!!
Furthermore, I have been a resident of Clayton County for 3+ yrs now and I keep my whip in my garage everyday. I rarely even bring it out but I know the feeling of having your car violated and for them to do that much damge(judging from the before & after pics) someone had it out for you and I jsut mean they had to be hating on you for one reason or another! (MOFO's!!)
Someone broke into my whip last year in front of my job!! Tried to get the whole car but failed(dorks) but they got away with some pretty good stuff. Ever since then, she's been sleeping in the garage.
But g/l on your next whip. If I see you around, i'll give ya a yell!!
i wish i had a garage.
There's a thief in Clayton county that was caught red handed with a stolen B16A2 engine/transmisison, and other stolen parts on his car. He got busted at my shop when he tried to get an alignment with a stolen carbon fiber hood THAT BELONGED TO THE GUY ABOUT TO DO THE ALIGNMENT!!!
Best part is his buddies browse AND post right here on good ole IA.com.
When I've got more time I'm going to post a detailed topic including a link to the guy's arraignment/pending charges, dates, etc.
Basically unless you've got a garage or some serious anti-theft measures (not just owning a gun lol) you should avoid posting anything about your car here, or really anywhere. Especially never post pics of your car in the driveway of your home. All it takes is a thief to say "oh shit I know that neighborhood!" and it's bye bye car.
lol, more info please
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Originally Posted by B18C5-EH2
Oh shit! I'm happy he's off the streets! Please post the detailed thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by B18C5-EH2
Well dude hasn't been convicted yet, but it should be a clear cut slam dunk. I was wanting to wait until he was convicted, but a few topics on IA are making me itch to go ahead and post it. One of them is a "show us your engine" topic in which a known associate of this thief is taking part. Perfect example of a guy lurking this forum in order to write up a "shopping list."Quote:
Originally Posted by Xtreme
Long story short this guy shows up at my shop with a hood stolen the previous few days before from one of my techs whom just so happened to be performing the work on the car. The hood had been etched with my tech's name and last 4 of his SSN so there was no denying it was his. This tech lives about 5 mins from our shop too.
Popping the hood revealed a B16A2 swap with removed VIN tags, and that alone is a felony. A detective was still able to trace the engine to a Civic Si that had been stolen in Clayco a few months prior and found stripped in Clayco as well.
All of this was documented extensively by the Clayton Co. PD in our shop on Christmas Eve day 2008. Dude spent Christmas in jail but mommy (who showed up and was arguing that her son would never steal parts) bailed him out.
This guy used to freqent our shop with a "crew" of which most of them post here and lurk here on IA.com. I'm nice to everyone, but I always had my suspicions when these guys came by my shop. From a set of way too cheap wheels, to removed VIN plates on a few of their vehicles it was obvious to me that they were shady. They seemed like "nice guys" but I'd defnately not want them knowing where I live. They were always inquisitive about my car(s) too.
Anyone reading this:
Where's the best forum here on IA to post the whole story so that it gets the most traffic? It really mosty applies to Honda Civics/Integras, but I want as many people as possible to see the topic when I'm done. I will not mention any names other than the actual accused/soon to be found guilty party as all else is speculation.
Well Tom Hornsby I am one of his buddys and yes I browse and post here on IA.And for you to try to come to my thread and call me a thief is bullshit.Yes I posted a thread say "show off your engine bay".And what they do it on Honda-tech all day,And no one catches slack just think for one second how many motors and items you see on craigslist for sale with no vin plate. The guy you are talking about does stay in clayton county and the motor and hood that he had was stolen from clayton county as explained by Clayton county officers.If he had stolen the hood why would he return to the place where the guy worked.He also gave all the info on who he purchased the hood and motor from.There are 4 witnesses that were in the walmart parking lot when he removed his Certifit hood in a trade for the hood that was stolen off your alignment techs car.And for you to say you had suspicion its kinda funny when I remember my friend was trying to sell his Volks to you and your friends for 500$ after he was in a pinch.And you bought them until one of the guys said the rims werent the right width that you all were needing for a track car.If you thought that we were Shady its funny how everytime we came around you were being all buddy buddy.Obviously if you thought we were shady you wouldnt have gave my friend a joyride around in your hatch.So before you try and call someone a thief please get your fact straight.Quote:
Originally Posted by B18C5-EH2
And for you to say that Vin plates on a few of the car brought to your place of employment had no vins is straight bullshit.Because only cars that you have serviced or looked at was a prelude and my friends SI which both had vin plates on them.So before you try to make up some bullshit about our crew or friends being shady you better make sure you have your got damn facts straight.Because any bullshit you try to say or make up rumors.I will check every last bit of that shit because I hate when people dont know the whole story and try to add their own twist.They were shady guys and shit.But everytime we came around you were talking to us for ever and wouldnt shut the fuck up. Also if you thought we were so shady I remember you stayed through your lunch break to do my friends alignment now if we are that shady I dont think you would have done that.:goodjob:Quote:
Originally Posted by B18C5-EH2
So you're defending a guy who buys stolen shit? Really? The thought never occurs to you that buying obviously stolen engine/tranny combos with missing VIN plates isn't the least bit shady?
First of all nobody bought a damn thing. I bRought one of the wheels into the shop to discuss the deal with my friend.Quote:
And for you to say you had suspicion its kinda funny when I remember my friend was trying to sell his Volks to you and your friends for 500$ after he was in a pinch.And you bought them until one of the guys said the rims werent the right width that you all were needing for a track car.
The more thought was put into the cheap Volks the less we thought it was a good idea to have my friend buy them. When I took a wheel into the shop we discussed the possibility of them being stolen, so the best way we could turn them down after your friend brought them up there was to say that they were too narrow and that he needed wider wheels with a more agressive offset.
At first the $500.00 pricetag didn't seem to shady because it was a really screwed up size and offset (14x5) but the more we thought about it the less it seemed like a good idea.
You could talk shit if he bought the wheels, but the fact of the matter is that it didnt seem right.
You're obviously having some sort of guilty conscience here to come in raging about this. I was only going to name the actual guy who is being tried this upcoming week for receiving stolen property, altered VIN plate, etc. but I guess you just aired out some dirty laundry for you and your other friends.Quote:
Obviously if you thought we were shady you wouldnt have gave my friend a joyride around in your hatch.So before you try and call someone a thief please get your fact straight.
The guys that came up with the thief seemed like nice guys - I already said that. I'm nice to everyone, and until given reason to think otherwise I'll extend a bit of trust and friendship. I let people ride in my car just the same as I allow pics of my car to be circulated on the internet - small time thieves stealing unprotected cars is a little different than getting past security measures and taking a car from someone who is armed.
At the end of the day you associate yourself with a guy who is either a straight up thief, or just makes some really ignorant, poor choices when it comes to buying shit with no VIN plates.
You're defending yourself before anyone has even mentioned you.
Guilty conscience?
BTW:
The level of shadiness is obviously stepped up once one of your crew rolls into my shop full of stolen shit on his car. It immediately makes one think "oh yeah come to think of it is was shady when those guys were selling Volks for so cheap..." I wonder if that guy's engine was stolen too...I wonder if those sets of different wheels on those cars every time you see them were all legit?
There's a simple solution if you don't want people to think you're shady:
Stop hanging out with people that steal shit or buy stolen shit.
Pretty simple really.
Yea I actually am defending someone that bought stolen shit.Just because someone made a poor chose on purchasing something doesnt mean that you have to be a fucking tick stuck on there ass everywhere.And for you to try to say I put myself out there yes I did because I'd rather have the truth about the situation out there than one thats half ass fabricated.And for you to try to say he is a thief and has been caught red handed and wrong.Because he bought the stolen items doesnt make him a damn thief.I know the guy and he works for a living and is out of town 5days of the week working.And for you to try to judge someones character and label them as a thief is stupid.Just because someone purchased a motor with out a vin last time I checked half the motors on IA didnt still have Oem vin plates like they were from Honda.All they have is block codes go to the for sale section and you will see half the motors and I bet your 5$ you cant find a gsr or a b16 that still has the vin plate on it.And there are still people buying them so I guess they are thieves also.Like I said know what you are talking about before you try to talk shit.:goodjob:Quote:
Originally Posted by B18C5-EH2
Damn TOM Hornsby ,why are you spreadin rumors with out any facts, im a close friend of southside and the guy you called the police on who was gettin his alignment done, beacuse you,ve done all his other alignments and where so freindly, and i can vouch for everthing southside jus said about tom giving wild rides around his shop in his hatch, him buying the white volks from my other friend, i didnt see you and your buddys trying to find out if they where stolen since you always thought me and my friends were so shady, then you go and bring my friends mom into this sayin, mommy came and bailed him out which she did but with his hard earn saved up money from his construction job, and im pretty sure he gets payed more than you for answerin those phones up there, and why are you being so bold and bad now when we where up there you stayed in the farthest bay until the police came, when your always at the front by the door, your wrong for trying to be mr.judge and jury tom, and my friend knows how it feels to get your car stolen when its your pride and joy, his red h22 prelude wit lsd, and red sportmax was stolen out his driveway, so stop pointing the finger TOM, you dont know my me or my friends, even though we thought we knew you
First of all you said you thought the crew was shady from the jump now your saying after one of the guys from the crew had stolen parts the whole crew steals.:thinking: Im confused so just because someone sells cheap wheels. They have to be stolen>? Is that what you are saying as many different sets of wheels that you find for cheap price are stolen is what you are saying>?Really like I said man the guy didnt know the items was stolen or he wouldnt have bought the items.And if he had seen your friends name on the hood and last 4 digits of his ssn.What does that mean I have my name carved in the back of one of my fat fives that I sold a year ago.So two years from now when someone trys to buy them they are suppose to see my name and automatically say they are stolen??????As much as stuff is sold,traded,swapped and other bs with Hondas man you never know.And this is the reason why Me and Him and a few others write bills of sale when we purchase stuff now.Quote:
Originally Posted by B18C5-EH2
This is the nasty underbelly that is associated with being in the Honda "scene" I suppose.
See I can tell you the name of the guy I bought my ITR parts car from back in 2000. His name was Steve Kipisz, and I knew him personally. I bought his totalled ITR and even got the title so as to avoid the accusations at that time for having an ITR swap back then. There were lots of accusations going on back then because ITR swaps were going for $6,500.00 or so. I know not everyone has the luxury of being able to buy his swap from a friend who was the original owner of the wrecked car, but not wanting VIN numbers on an OBD2 engine that should always have them? That's shady.
There is no other reason to remove a VIN plate other than the shit is stolen. If you turn your head and buy the shit still then you are stupid. You deserve the punishment because no matter what you say you KNOW it's stolen shit.
...and just because "everybody else does it" doesn't make it a valid argument. If you're telling me that right now you'd buy a swap with removed VIN tags just because "it happens all the time" then yes you in FACT ARE A THIEF TOO.
Knowing what you know now would you still buy a swap with it's VIN plates removed? Knowing that you too could be charged with a felony would you still do it? Is having an upgraded engine for much cheaper than the going rate worth a felony on your record?
First off good for you TOm that you had info and title for all the shit you bought.Everytime you find a motor it isnt always stolen and everyone doesnt always have proof/papers to prove the stuff is legit.Like I said now he knows and I know and what about if it still did have a Vin on any motor you purchase.Its still a risk unless you know a cop then you still have to take a chance unless the motor is still in a car.That way you can match vin on tranny and motor to the chassis.Other than that your fishing in the dark like the rest of the unfortunate people that buy upgrades for there car and dont know where it came from.Because everyone isnt always going to keep receipts and records of where stuff came from and that sucks ass but Guess What?The shit happens!Quote:
Originally Posted by B18C5-EH2
And now that I think about it he also has the title or whatever papers needed to prove the motor is legit now.So since he has done the right thing by contacting the insurance company and agreeing the pay the balance they wanted for the motor and tranny is he still wrong.And that isnt something a thief would do now is it.And I thought you said you bought your motor straight from HOnda.
Can you not see how this looked from our perspective though? I'll admit that I could be wrong about intent, but damn man a stolen hood, engine, tranny, etc.
Like I've said a few times now I wasn't going to post you or any of your other crew guys' names because you aren't the ones that had the stolen stuff. I still haven't posted that info in the first place.
What are you trying to accomplish by arguing with me though?