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    what is christianity




    A. In the USA: A dangerous political movement dominated by right-wing conservative extremists and fanatics who use religion as a smoke-screen to intimidate, manipulate, control and hurt people and our government. They are bent on destroying our democracy and replacing it with a theocracy to have us live much like an oppressive country such as Iran where people have few if any rights and laws are dictated by religious leaders. They bully mainstream politicians much like gangsters to do their bidding and frequently take tirades when they don't get their way and make threats like in the Terri Schiavo case.

    B. Describes an organizaton of usually mentally unstable social terrorists or fascists who try to dupe people into believing they only are following the will of god to justify their atrocious actions. They seek to take away your civil rights or deny them to you by manipulating the Republican party, through special legislation in Congress, amending state and federal constitutions, by manipulating the courts or pushing for ballot initiatives to decide your rights when all else fails. Their tactics and goals are much like the Nazi party's in Germany during WWII in regards to the Jews except they can't get away with mass murder here or establish concentration camps for groups they marginalize and detest. At least not yet.

    C. Something that oppresses and marginalizes. Something that is intolerant. Something that imposes itself on your life like it or not. Something that is often in your face and shoved down your throat. Something that typically shows little if any compassion, love, respect or care for people that are different.

    D. A religion whose followers mistakenly think they can invoke as an excuse to justify their actions against other people. They arrogantly believe their faith in itself trumps anything else including your privacy, civil rights or saftey. It's followers often use select bible passages to hurt others and justify their obnoxious behavior!

    E. A religious movement of fanatics that thinks it can justify bombing abortion clinics or gay bars and killing innocent people in the name of faith much like a Muslim may think their faith justifies sucide-bombings that kill innocent people for different political reasons. They often like to scapegoat people. They pretend to fight for democracy while actually doing everything in their power to destroy or undermine it. They want people to be tolerant of them but refuse to tolerate anything or anyone that they claim is against their religious beliefs.
    Everthing is Black and white to them. There is no compromise. They often try and justify their actions as freedom of religion and free speech while doing all in their power to stifle the free speech of people that disagree with them.


    Christianity threatens our democracy by its followers attempts to replace it with a theocracy of the religious elite.

    The Neo-nazis, KKK and militia men call themselves followers of christianity and use it to justify the horrific acts they commit against racial minorities, Jews and gays.

    Hitler said he was like Jesus, a messiah of christianity fighting against the communists and Jews in Europe and the world. He subsequently murdered millions while many church leaders including the pope looked the other way to appease the Nazis and keep their power.

    The fanatical christian preacher and his followers callously picketed the funeral of a gay man that was murdered holding up signs that read...GOD HATES FAGS and SODOMITES BURN IN HELL...all while the dead man's family and friends looked on in disgust and disbelief. A fine example of christianity and its compassion for others.

    Christianity is responsible for the deaths of many people often women burned as witches who threatened the male-dominated hierarchy of the church!

    Jews and Muslims who refused to convert or were accused of practicing their relgion in secret after converting to christianity were frequently tortured, forced into exile or murdered!

    Homosexuals were frequently murdered by the church. Burning them at the stake was the typical form of execution because of the intolerance, ignorance and lack of compassion of christianity! The Knights Templar were murdered by the Pope and a European king for practicing homosexuality but in reality the murderers feared their power and wanted their gold!

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    come on man. all religions have extremists . to believe that all christians are like this is very ignorant. this new post is about as ignorant as the one Echo made about Islam.

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    hey assclown..did i say "all" no i didnt ..i said debate this..not come up with an excuse....i understand extemists are in every religion..its easy for you fuckers to totally ignore the fact that some evil shit has happened due to your religion and/or beliefs.... debate...come up with a logical thought to disprove whats written

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    maybe you should go find a religon form to go to. you obviously have a problem with "Christians" in particular. maybe a socialist left-wing hate site or some islamo-facist(extreme) kill the infideles site. you would probally feel more at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by {X}Echo419
    maybe you should go find a religon form to go to. you obviously have a problem with "Christians" in particular. maybe a socialist left-wing hate site or some islamo-facist(extreme) kill the infideles site. you would probally feel more at home.

    i would feel more at home if ..i was to walk in my front door every night,know ing that you swallowed a bullet...its not just christians..just all ignorant people

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    i'm not gonna debate something that will be flamed and locked down. i'm not a christian but i do respect all religions. Anyone who use religion to better themself and to treat others well is fine with me. just don't try to force it on me.

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    I think I've said this plenty of times. There's a right way to do things, and a wrong way. Standing up for what you believe in one thing. To force it and then cause harm to others to get your point across is another. Those that do that are wrong. Christianity shouldn't be condemned for the acts of those who go about doing things the wrong way.

    Are people going to stop being agnostic because other agnostics have also murdered people because they believe they have no God to answer to? With or Without a religion, there are tons of people who do bad stuff. That doesn't make you switch to another.

    This same list can be replicated for every race, every religion, every state, etc.


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    ouch! and agian, someone will get neg repped from echo LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by cherry kool aid
    ouch! and agian, someone will get neg repped from echo LOL
    been there already!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherry kool aid
    ouch! and agian, someone will get neg repped from echo LOL


    I'm not going to do it now just b/c you said so
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    True. But where's my sig?!! (lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by {X}Echo419


    I'm not going to do it now just b/c you said so
    no you will just report it LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by b@d @pple
    what is christianity?

    A dangerous political movement dominated by right-wing conservative extremists and fanatics who use religion as a smoke-screen to intimidate, manipulate, control and hurt people and our government. They are bent on destroying our democracy and replacing it with a theocracy to have us live much like an oppressive country such as Iran where people have few if any rights and laws are dictated by religious leaders. They bully mainstream politicians much like gangsters to do their bidding and frequently take tirades when they don't get their way and make threats like in the Terri Schiavo case.

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    There is a religious "movement" bent on destroying our democratic republic, some in this movement know what they are doing, others are just completely mislead. Its been around and in action in various forms for a long time. It involves many types and groups including the vatican, the right wing "religious" pseudo-christians, the misguided who want to "bring this country back to God", various uninformed christians who don't know their Bibles, and others. That being said, ABSOLUTELY NONE of that represents TRUE Biblical Christianity. NONE!

    The principles of Scripture and of Jesus Christ for whom Christianity is named do NOT allow for force of concience in this context. On the contrary, freedom of concience, freedom to choose EVEN THE WRONG CHOICE is included. Any Christian that does not stand for that freedom is not a Christian in whole.

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    god hates you!

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    huh.. where the fuck did you get all that bullshit?
    i dont understand what your question is.

    debate about what?
    debate about bullshit?
    alot of those things happened but most have been altered to fit whoever wrote it.

    also, because some christians made some STUPID decisions to do some picketing about a gay guy doesnt make every christian a homosexual-hater.
    i'm a christian, i'm not gay, i dont hate gays, but i dont love them either.
    its called being neutral.

    i dont know how many christians are out there, but some of the things you posted were about the ignorant few, from old and new.

    many people use religion as a scapegoat to do things they feel is right in their opinion.

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