Evolutionist's.....care to discuss?

[Echonova]

Echonova- does it bother you to see many church folk and those that claim to believe in God alter their beliefs to fit in with modern science? I see creationists and I.D.proponents stating that the Bible is irrelevant for modern times, or they say it is not meant to be interpreted literally, or they try and fit God/Jesus into a form of "logic" that the modern philosopher can digest. My point in this thread was simply this; the beauty and diversity in nature, the complexity of life, and the mystery surrounding the universe can equally be seen as evidence of an All Mighty Gods' signature.


You and I among others were such swine not long ago. "How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?" romans 10:14

What bothers me is people that think that the God that created this universe, is somehow bound to those rules as we understand them.

I never claimed to be a preacher, however... If you're going to preach, do it to those that are at least willing to listen. Otherwise preach to a wall in your house. It's the same thing.

[Echonova]

When you look at a sunset, can you see the magnificence? Or do you just see light refracting off the atmosphere at a certain angle combined with water particulates in the air?

[Echonova]

FYI: I'm half-asleep and going to bed. I will double-check my posts for coherency tomorrow/today.

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When you look at a sunset, can you see the magnificence? Or do you just see light refracting off the atmosphere at a certain angle combined with water particulates in the air?

This, but despite my lack of belief in a god, I can still see the beauty in things like this.

[geoff]

Blank cd- what beauty is there in life for one who believes their entire existence is without purpose, with out meaning, without inspiration? What beauty is there in such a short life span? The world is not pretty and life is not a fairy tale. Life is hard and full of disappointment. It is full of death and sorrow. Sure there are some good things to life....but in the end....to an atheist....it is all for nothing. You are born, you live ( either successful or not), maybe have some children and hope to leave them something behind. That to me, is empty. To me God is life, light, direction, peace and hope. This thread and the couple like it recently have really made me take a second glance at my own life, my own beliefs, and my own purpose. I now know i have been lacking...that i have much to catch up on. I truly hope blank that some day you too can come to see life how I and so many others see it.

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Blank cd- what beauty is there in life for one who believes their entire existence is without purpose, with out meaning, without inspiration? What beauty is there in such a short life span? The world is not pretty and life is not a fairy tale. Life is hard and full of disappointment. It is full of death and sorrow. Sure there are some good things to life....but in the end....to an atheist....it is all for nothing. You are born, you live ( either successful or not), maybe have some children and hope to leave them something behind. That to me, is empty. To me God is life, light, direction, peace and hope. This thread and the couple like it recently have really made me take a second glance at my own life, my own beliefs, and my own purpose. I now know i have been lacking...that i have much to catch up on. I truly hope blank that some day you too can come to see life how I and so many others see it.

you definitely have the wrong idea about being atheist. This stereotype is the reason we're still the most hated group of people in the world, despite being the happiest group of people in the world.

[Benefit]

lightning bolts

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lightning bolts

Gods warriors

[Benefit]

Atheist warrior

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Atheist warrior

We have warriors, but they look more like this


Guys with nice suits and intellectual prowess

[Benefit]

Im sorry , you have proof of god but still refute it

I would try to outsmart god with google too

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Im sorry , you have proof of god but still refute it

I would try to outsmart god with google too

You still haven't shown me that proof bro, my challenge is still on the table

[Benefit]

They will look like this in hell

[Benefit]

You should ask those guys what they think about a book written 100's of years ago about a man who will be born with a slight concavity while simultaneously a double solar eclipse happens

See what they say

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They will look like this in hell

According to your holy book, you'll have a nice warm spot just for you right next to them. Lol

[Benefit]

Ha, if only you were informed

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You should ask those guys what they think about a book written 100's of years ago about a man who will be born with a slight concavity while simultaneously a double solar eclipse happens

See what they say

I know exactly what they think about the Quran and the Holy Bible. I've heard both of them speak.

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Ha, if only you were informed

So you think it says differently. Have you read the Quran, or the bible? I know they candy coat it pretty good, but you're going to hell. Hate to be the bearer of bad news.

Why dont you give the whole book a good read. Just once.

[Benefit]

The bearer of bad news? of course you know more than me and god combined, shit you control it because you can use google

Ive read the quran 4 times, only read the revelations of the bible

how does the quran know neurology before you knew what neurology was?

You must not know what i mean by slight concavity, mr bearer of bad news

[Benefit]

God has said in the Quran about one of the evil unbelievers who forbade the Prophet Muhammad from praying at the Kaaba:

No! If he does not stop, We will take him by the naseyah (front of the head), a lying, sinful naseyah (front of the head)! (Quran, 96:15-16)


So, this area of the cerebrum is responsible for planning, motivating, and initiating good and sinful behavior and is responsible for the telling of lies and the speaking of truth

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A neuroscientist would disagree with you

[Benefit]

Im pretty sure a neuroscientist wrote that

[Echonova]

Ive read the quran 4 times, only read the revelations of the bible

Wait, wut??? You do know the Bible isn't one of those books you can just skip to the end and read the last few pages right?

[Echonova]

I mean, there are people that have dedicated their entire lives to studying that book... When all they had to do is skip to the end????

[Benefit]

lol...

[Echonova]

Your ignorance is not funny.

[Benefit]

I read some other parts, there are flaws so i only read the end

[geoff]

Benefit- So the Bible has flaws but the Quran does not?

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Apparently there is some division even in the atheist camp.....is there gonna be a seperation of denominations now?

[RL...]

Echo's "gift" with strategically and comically posting the right picture at the right moment is almost enough of a reason for me to believe in god. Bravo sir.

[Echonova]

Echo's "gift" with strategically and comically posting the right picture at the right moment is almost enough of a reason for me to believe in god. Bravo sir.

[bodhi]

heh

[bodhi]

i had forgotten about this thread, but um i see no real reason to continue.

echo has posted his opinion, and so has everyone else. benefit is... well... i dunno kinda weird. i dont get him or what hes saying. anyway, gg, mt.dewds

[Benefit]

Not a single dot of the quran was ever changed


Oxygen + gravity, you cant see it , it does not EXIST!

[geoff]

Not a single dot of the quran was ever changed

I could debate with you with great length about the quran....im guessing youre muslim?

[Echonova]

Not a single dot of the quran was ever changed


Oxygen + gravity, you cant see it , it does not EXIST!

I cannot comprehend stupidity on this level.

















Let's just accept your statement as being true... What does that prove? So what if it's never been changed? How does that make it right or wrong?


And your other statement about oxygen and gravity, I know you thought you were being clever.

You weren't.

[Benefit]

Its ok, you are going to heaven man, i am not going to debate it

and i love how you call someone stupid then agree with them, adding stupid images to emphasize your statement, real mature

if you had a little clue, probably wouldnt be talking to me

keep face palm'ing your saggy jaw

[alpine_aw11]

I believe in God, but the concept of organized religion is fucking dumb, and there isn't a single thing anyone could ever say to convince me otherwise. Creationism and evolution can work together....a creator laid the foundation, and the devil magic we know as scientific laws took over and gave us what we have today. Seems really simple to understand in my opinion.

[Bamboozler]

^^^I agree with this guy

[Aeroscout977]

I'm also one than has no problems accepting the laws of science and existence of God. Science to me does not disprove God but explains the means. An all powerful creator and designer will also have the intelligence to create a universe that works the way ours does. Darwin and God just work for me. I do agree with one of the posters above about organized religion. While I attend a Baptist Church it's also one that reflects my belief that church is not required but is a great tool when used correctly.

[Benefit]

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