i have to say on the abortion side, dont matter how you look at it its wrong.
i have to say on the abortion side, dont matter how you look at it its wrong.
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Originally Posted by geoff
of course you think that, but I tend to disagree...woman's choice plain and simple. I just don't agree with late term abortions except in extreme situations or emergencies, but a 3 week old snot ball of congregated cells is not a human.
your not a human until you have a social security number or your in my phone list.
of course you think that, but I tend to disagree...woman's choice plain and simple. I just don't agree with late term abortions except in extreme situations or emergencies, but a 3 week old snot ball of congregated cells is not a human.
your not a human until you have a social security number or your in my phone list.
x Infinity.
To impose ones beliefs on someones else's due to someones elses moral convictions is more wrong than the act itself and is the problem with the country today. More people need to worry about THEIR problems, because nothing that these people getting abortions will ever effect the people trying to get abortion made illegal. Morality and Legality need to be separated more than they are now.
so who is anyone to term what actual life is? that an embryo is not alive? its murder plain and simple
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Woman' decision.
Not yours.
GOD DAMN YOU ARE SUCH A FAGGOT.
I kill many things much more significant than a group of cells; like insects.
Who are you to judge???? Remember it is your god that is supposed to judge people for their actions, right? You can think it's wrong, but that is all you can do. I'll be the first to say I'd murder a human embryo.
I believe it is the woman's choice and as long as the baby is inside her it is still her decision. That baby doesnt have rights until its breathing its own air
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Aren't you fighting the same fight? Don't you have a belief in nothing? Without proof of God's existence, you believe in a nothing yourself. And you have a distorted view of words and their definitions. So you think without God, you can't have hope? Faith? Morals? Values?
Every day I hope I wake up and have a great day. I hope to that my children have a great life ahead of them.
I have faith in myself that I can go to work, do my job satisfactory and get home to see my family.
Morals and values? I was taught, by my grandparents and Mom, never to hit a woman. To say yes ma'am and no sir. Taught never to steal. Taught to treat people right. I don't make fun of the handicapped. I don't make fun of people in dire situations.
I bring these attributes upon myself without the aid of God. Contrary to your beliefs, you don't need God to have hope, faith, morals and values. You only need a mind.
I completely disagree. You're a human as soon as you develop human-like qualities.but a 3 week old snot ball of congregated cells is not a human.
your not a human until you have a social security number or your in my phone list.
I agree and disagree. I think it should be the woman's choice. I think it should be ok in extreme situations. If a woman is raped and gets pregnant. And I mean raped. Not like going home drunk with someone and getting laid or whatever. I mean walking in your home and someone attacks you and does the evil deed. If the woman is in a life-threatening position because of the baby. Incest. Those are the only legit (to me) reasons to opt for abortion. Later, QD.
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your not a human until you have a social security number or your in my phone list.
This was a joke...
Like saying "your not a human child until you start making my life miserable"
I don't want children, I never have...I admit I am far too selfish to want to give up my own goals and desires for children, and I find most of them repulsive and annoying. And most every woman I have ever been with long-term has felt the same way, and if she didn't, then she got a stern talking-too from me and was strongly encouraged to go bark up another tree.
Some of the women I have been with did not even view their bodies as something that could produce another human life, they would have felt something "alien" would be growing inside them and were disgusted by that. But as a responsible adult I want the option there just in case. If a condom breaks, if my partner forgets to take her pills....
I would hate to have to kick a bitch down a flight of stairs to keep her from bringing another mewling child onto this planet
but this is just my personal opinion and not to be taken as any valid point.
Last edited by StreetHazard; 02-19-2010 at 10:01 AM.
Wow.This was a joke...
Like saying "your not a human child until you start making my life miserable"
I don't want children, I never have...I admit I am far too selfish to want to give up my own goals and desires for children, and I find most of them repulsive and annoying. And most every woman I have ever been with long-term has felt the same way, and if she didn't, then she got a stern talking-too from me and was strongly encouraged to go bark up another tree.
Some of the women I have been with did not even view their bodies as something that could produce another human life, they would have felt something "alien" would be growing inside them and were disgusted by that. But as a responsible adult I want the option there just in case. If a condom breaks, if my partner forgets to take her pills....
I would hate to have to kick a bitch down a flight of stairs to keep her from bringing another mewling child onto this planet
but this is just my personal opinion and not to be taken as any valid point.
+99. Later, QD.
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what, was it something I said?
yeah, it's wrong in a way, but like everyone has said it's usually up to the chick... not always though, like in my case. many years back I had this one chick have an abortion - not because i didn't want a kid, but because i knew that we weren't ready.
I was young and so was she
of course she felt like crap, but watta are you gonna do? it had to be done.
men will never understand what it feels like to have an abortion, so we'll always say that its okay and whatnot, and that its the best thing to do in a situation where you cannot support the child, BUT the females will be the ones to do it - we're just "supporting" them till they recover and then we say "see ya." how is one to say that an abortion is wrong though? would you give birth to a kid knowning that it was going to come out a retard? would you give birth to a kid if you knew that it would be born with three legs? why bring something out to this harsh world a loser with no chance at ever finding happiness?
LOOK AT THE STAGES AFTER THE WHOLE EMBRYO STAGE
CUTE HUH??? GUESS WHA! IT'S STILL AN IRRELEVANT LIL CREATURE THAT SERVES NO PURPOSE TO THE SURVIVAL OF THE HUMAN RACE!!
be realistic geoff - FOR ONCE!!! open your lil mind and try to view the world in a different prespective. an embryo is technically "living" (though so are the maggots that live ontop of garbage bags) but does not have a conscious. a prostitute giving birth to a HUGE MISTAKE is fucking stupid and should definitely get an abortion.
if you think something as small and helpless as an embryo is alive and kicking and feel horrible about abortions then try only eating fruits and vegetables from now on, because all the meat you eat is alive and kicking too (or at least was once).
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"get with the Gs, or get on yo knees"
This was a joke...
Like saying "your not a human child until you start making my life miserable"
I don't want children, I never have...I admit I am far too selfish to want to give up my own goals and desires for children, and I find most of them repulsive and annoying. And most every woman I have ever been with long-term has felt the same way, and if she didn't, then she got a stern talking-too from me and was strongly encouraged to go bark up another tree.
Some of the women I have been with did not even view their bodies as something that could produce another human life, they would have felt something "alien" would be growing inside them and were disgusted by that. But as a responsible adult I want the option there just in case. If a condom breaks, if my partner forgets to take her pills....
I would hate to have to kick a bitch down a flight of stairs to keep her from bringing another mewling child onto this planet
but this is just my personal opinion and not to be taken as any valid point.
you're just as big of an idiot as geoff is, minus the belief in a white bearded cracka whos watching me type this post down...
eventually you'll come to want a child of your own, this unfortunately happens to everyone.
when you're 60 years old and see that you're alone, you'd wish you had someone to feel miserable about the fact that you will one day be dead - to not be here to watch a movie with or walk at the park, laugh, ect. being selfish doesn't mean anything. EVERYONE is selfish, some just are plain greedy
I too hate fucking kids and are annoyed by them
but they do change your life
oh and the cunts that are too afraid to feel something "alienish" in their belly are fucking morons... go out and find yourself some more intelligent bitches cause the ones you are describing sound like a couple of blockheads
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"get with the Gs, or get on yo knees"
yeah the bad thing about the world, is they keep making better idiots.
I am glad you are able to pass your judgement onto others so freely, your bitterness and hate does fill me with glee and joy and I look forward to more of it. Yet you still fall short because it would require for me to actually give a flying fuck about your opinions, or what you think, or what you believe to actually care. Which I don't...
I can actually argue the pros and cons of "breeding" if you care to indulge, but your "opinions" are equally worthless
Last edited by StreetHazard; 02-19-2010 at 01:47 PM.
why did you delete your post skreethaztard?
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"get with the Gs, or get on yo knees"
im downloading some porn right now
so yeah, shows how much i give a shit about your pathetic banter
ps; tori black is a bad-bad bitch
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"get with the Gs, or get on yo knees"
you sure like to edit your posts a lot
haha, dummy
your wasted effort with that post was as effective as minnie's wet farts, except they're 10x more masculine and virile.
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"get with the Gs, or get on yo knees"
I would be too but im at work
Unfortunately it's not that simple. People don't agree at what point human "life" begins and they don't all put the same value on life. Some people say life begins with a heartbeat, others with brain function. Ethical standards vary greatly between societies and individuals. Why do you expect everyone to have the same values and morals that you do?
It's fine to state your opinion but you have to give logical reasons if you want to change anyone's mind.
there is no reasoning with geoff... he's too far deep in jesus' rectum to be pulled back to reality
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"get with the Gs, or get on yo knees"
your gunna scare away all the christians! almost the only one that still posts is Geoff.
I m well on my to all fucked up, I just wanted to share.
I found this vodka that comes in a glass skull...it's called "crystal skull vodka" I had to special order...the vodka is pretty good, but the bottle sold me on it
Last edited by StreetHazard; 02-19-2010 at 05:38 PM.
im still here and wont go away. someone has to keep up the other side right? and as far as the abortion goes, no one is to say when an embryo is considered life. life itself forming is something of a miracle. the way it happens the sensitivity and frailty of it. life begins when the cells start to split, thats the first step. when you plant a seed in the ground and it buds, do you not call that life even though it hasnt become a plant yet? i understand rape, ect cases. that still doesnt make it right. the act is disgusting but that cell will eventually mature into a living breathing child that is helpless. the baby itself is the innocent one. they have no say in the matter. abortion is an excuse for those " slip ups " that occur. the act of rape itself doesnt always lead to a pregnancy. and for those that say im not ready or cant provide for a child then keep your mini me in your pants. each time you unload you realize there is a chance of a baby coming later. for those who worry about deformities or retardation, the child itself does not realize they are disabled. i worked with special needs kids for about a year and not one of them asked me why am i retarded or why am i different. they are actually the happiest and carefree people in the world. so to me abortion is an excuse. give life a chance. how can we be a nation that says save the ozone, trees, animals, but says kill the children? how can there be organizations where the government will prosecute you if you abuse animals but nothing happens when you kill a baby? this world is messed up
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animals behave better than children do, I got this friend that has like 4 kids. his youngest son is like 3 and still shits all over the place, I went over there to hang out and he was chiseling dried shit off of his door handle that his kid smeared everywhere.
But me and my girlfriend have a big ass cat...his name is "bull" and we trained him to shit in the toilet, no joke! now he doesnt flush it but he shits and pee's in the toilet! which is a little disconcerting when I gotta piss at 3am in the morning and there is a big ass black cat in the way.
my buddy wants me to come over and train his son to shit (atleast) in a litter box.
BTW im fucked up dont pay attention to me
I'll give you a scenario. Your wife goes to the mall and goes shopping. She comes back out and 2 guys beats her ass, kidnap her ass and they all take turns raping her and blow all their baby gravy in there. She gets dumped out and left for dead but the police find her and nurse her back to health. After a few tests they also find she is pregnant. Would you seriously raise a kid that is not yours that was due to rape.im still here and wont go away. someone has to keep up the other side right? and as far as the abortion goes, no one is to say when an embryo is considered life. life itself forming is something of a miracle. the way it happens the sensitivity and frailty of it. life begins when the cells start to split, thats the first step. when you plant a seed in the ground and it buds, do you not call that life even though it hasnt become a plant yet? i understand rape, ect cases. that still doesnt make it right. the act is disgusting but that cell will eventually mature into a living breathing child that is helpless. the baby itself is the innocent one. they have no say in the matter. abortion is an excuse for those " slip ups " that occur. the act of rape itself doesnt always lead to a pregnancy. and for those that say im not ready or cant provide for a child then keep your mini me in your pants. each time you unload you realize there is a chance of a baby coming later. for those who worry about deformities or retardation, the child itself does not realize they are disabled. i worked with special needs kids for about a year and not one of them asked me why am i retarded or why am i different. they are actually the happiest and carefree people in the world. so to me abortion is an excuse. give life a chance. how can we be a nation that says save the ozone, trees, animals, but says kill the children? how can there be organizations where the government will prosecute you if you abuse animals but nothing happens when you kill a baby? this world is messed up
The results of a this conversation went 2 different routes with 2 christian men. It was presented the same way.
Man #1 said yeah he would keep it, unconditionally, no matter what color it was
Man #2 which was a deacon said he would do 2 things, get her to get an abortion and kill the assholes that did it.
Why don't you go ahead and say that the woman should have never left the kitchen? A fucking "slip up?" So a woman that goes to work to support herself or her family comes home to an attacker that beats and rapes her and just "slips up?" Are you really that delusional? The ONLY thing you've said about this subject that makes complete sense is the "I can't take care of him/her" or the "not ready" excuses. Later, QD.
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I do not know how this got on the topic of abortion, but my view about it is this:
1) It is the womans choice
2) I think it is acceptable, ESPECIALLY in extreme situations such as rape/incest
3) Even if a girl gets pregnant because of not taking the right precautions(or perhaps even while taking the right precautions, my best friends wife got pregnant while taking birth control) I believe she should be allowed to make the choice to abort or to keep it.
4) I do not believe a child should be brought into this world by ppl who are unfit emotionally/spiritually/financially to properly care for it. Honestly it is unfair to the child to be raised by ppl who are broke and have no idea what the hell they're doing.
5) I believe everyone deserves second chances, one person should not have to let their whole life be defined by one mistake if you could have had a choice about it.
starfire- in that case i would keep the child as i know my girlfriend would want to also, if the pain of the act was too much we would give it up for adoption. all life is precious. i would never take a life.
qd- say what you want. i gave my personal oppinion. its a sad day that we life in a world where some sicko would do something like this. but, that doesnt change the fact that there is a completely innocent life growing and is in the hands of others.
riding for God crew member #1
IA Domestic Alliance
^^^I'd take a life under the right circumstances, and abortion is one of them. Next is someone that wouldn't back down from robbing me. What a waste of time to have a kid and spend all that time, effort, self to let the kid go up for adoption. Just get it aborted and save everyone a lot of pain. Just wonder what if for the rest of your life. It would be way easier on the kid too. Then have one when you are ready. The world is full of second chances.
And also, Life is not a miracle, it happens every day and pretty much anyone can do it making it very common. Something more miraculous would be when a kid is born and all the learning and adapting begins, not simply creating life. Fucking flies give life to maggots=Miracle
Child birth is no more of a miracle than eating food and having a turd slide out of your ass. My elequence sometimes astounds me.
^^^See, miracles happening every day. lol
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