Haiti is hellbound

[StreetHazard]

According to Pat Robertson, the evangelical Christian who once suggested God was punishing Americans with Hurricane Katrina, says a "pact to the devil" brought on the devastating earthquake in Haiti.

"Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it," he said on Christian Broadcasting Network's "The 700 Club." "They were under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon III, or whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, we will serve you if you'll get us free from the French. True story. And so, the devil said, okay it's a deal."

Robertson said that "ever since, they have been cursed by one thing after the other" and he contrasted Haiti with its neighbor, the Dominican Republic.

"That island of Hispaniola is one island. It is cut down the middle; on the one side is Haiti on the other is the Dominican Republic," he said. "Dominican Republic is prosperous, healthy, full of resorts, etc. Haiti is in desperate poverty. Same island. They need to have and we need to pray for them a great turning to god and out of this tragedy I'm optimistic something good may come. But right now we are helping the suffering people and the suffering is unimaginable."

[djpikachu1]

okay

[StreetHazard]

I give up, im going to bed

[5speed]

EL OH Fucking EL LOL

[Total_Blender]

Every time theres a disaster in the world Pat Robertson will blame the victims. He did it with 9/11 and now he's doing it to Haiti. Robertson is truly one despicable human being, and his name should not be spoken in polite society anymore.

Even though I'm an atheist, sometimes I really wish there was a hell for people like Pat Robertson. One thing is for sure, he will use the money people send him to fuck Haiti's shit all up.

Years ago when he called for aid for Africa, he used the money his donors sent to buy helicopters and hire goons for the diamond mines operated by his Africa Development Company (ADC). Through ADC he also funneled money to the evil dictator of Zaire, Mobutu Sese Seko.

AKA this guy:


So I can only assume he has some nefarious purpose in mind for the money sent to him for aid to Haiti. Its one thing to encourage people to pray for Haiti, but to ask them to pay your company to pray for Haiti is beyond fucked up.

Hopefully the Haitians will send some voodoo zombies after him.

[punkr6]

Jibbeeeerish ....

[Glides]

Pat Robertson is an idiot. I rank him right up there with Rush Limbaugh, Neil Boortz and that guy OUTLAW, the Face Rolling Torture Specialist.

People like Pat Robertson will have their own hell and the punishment will be so small and insignificant that it will drive them mad. See those are the best punishments, the ones that when you look at them initially, they are so trivial that you laugh. But after awhile.....over time.....they are hell.

That is why Chinese Water Torture was so effective.

[Hulud]

this shit is stupid. if you honsetly listen to robertson you probably also join with the westboro people prostesting colleges and military personels funerals

[punkr6]

this shit is stupid. if you honsetly listen to robertson you probably also join with the westboro people prostesting colleges and military personels funerals

your sig is too funny....

[Hulud]

your sig is too funny....

haha thank you, i thought so too when i stole it from another forum

[98blackcivic]

i hate pat robertson

[Total_Blender]

i hate pat robertson

I don't hate him, its kind of amusing to see what kind of crackpot shit he will come up with next.

It sucks that people take him seriously and send him money though. I feel bad for those people that they could be that stupid. They are fools, and I'm sure Mr. T pities them.

[bodhi]

Fault lines, tremors, tectonic plates, Satan... whatever. It's all bullshit I can't see or understand anyways. You say potato I say Satan.

Science is just some wizard shit anyways.

[bu villain]

Thank God for Pat Robertson... otherwise we would all forget how much people deserve to die. His ability to decipher between God's punishment of sinners and just normal natural distasters is quite impressive.

[Total_Blender]

His ability to decipher between God's punishment of sinners and just normal natural distasters is quite impressive.

Basically any time a disaster happens anywhere its either the liberals, the gays, or the blacks.

In other news, I think we all know who the Antichrist really is....

[djpikachu1]

its an urban legend

[sti_cham]

Since the recent tragedy that has befallen the proud and persevering nation of Haiti, there has been an outpouring of support followed by a few disturbing falsities being spread about the history of the island and its people. I wrote the following to shed some light on events during and around the Haitian Revolution. Please remember memorizing and reiterating should never pass for learning. Deciphering the significance of individuals and events is what truly teaches us not just about history, but also about ourselves.

There is a wide spectrum of beliefs behind what has caused Haiti to suffer ceaselessly over the years. Some see the problem as being mostly political, bad governance, modern day colonialism, or the perceived necessity to make an example to the world of what a successful slave revolution will get you. There are even those on the fringe who cling to an ancient superstition that the island was freed by a mythological pact with Satan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5TE99sAbwM In order to shed light on the issue I am forced to go back in time. Obviously not to the beginning of occupational history, but far enough to give a realistic perspective on Haiti and it’s struggle.
We may sometimes point to these historical figures and attribute superstitious characteristics to them in order to either justify or vilify their position. My main problem is when it starts becoming obvious that our own government uses complete and utter falsities to promote a military objective. The following is an account written by a Soldier who participated in the ousting of then President Aristide, it sheds light on the deliberate dissemination of such information:

http://www.ibiblio.org/prism/May96/haiti.html

If he (Dessalines) really made a pact to deliver his nation to absolute evil then why only the leader of the one successful slave revolt on the hemisphere? Why just him and not every other military commander throughout history that faced insurmountable odds? And when is that sort of such vindictive and violent force ever justified? See, that my friends is at the very core of what Haiti and it’s historic Revolution truly represent. That undiluted tactic of delivering oneself from slavery and oppression through physical force. The French Revolutionaries beheaded their King and did not pay his family restitution. The American Revolution gave Britain no reparations and in fact collected the land of it’s Indigenous allies after England ceded it without so much as a word to the Native American’s still living there. Yet only in modern history have enslaved people of color been trained to think suffering through the worst of what an oppressor can punish them with is the only way to gain legitimacy or victory.

Are we “tragically Mulatto?”

Are we as Black and Indigenous people only noble and righteous in an emasculated form of confrontation against such a fate? Are we only correct in our undertaking of a non-violent approach to confronting Imperialism or Fascism? More of white America praises Martin Luther King Jr. as peacefully resistant and the preferable alternative to Malcolm X’s truth without modesty. More would rather hear the scholarly Fredrick Douglass than experiencing the fear-invoking Dessalines. I do not seek to discredit the legacy of either Douglass or King. We are all indebted to the vital parts of the struggle for freedom that they played historically. But why are Europe and American spared the same constant criticism by present day historians. Would we turn the other cheek to Hitler? What would a non-violent march and a hunger strike against the Confederate South have accomplished? Without colonial militias, Native American Warriors, and the French & Spanish Armadas, wouldn’t the U.S. Constitution have ended up as British toilet paper? As a matter of fact, if Gandhi’s tactics had been used in the American Revolution, wouldn’t he have been lying in a ditch in Virginia some 234 years ago? Without the purchased attention of a global media outlet, is shaming the world even possible? And even if we managed to procure one, how could a profit margin be replaced by a soul, when that’s the one thing that a multi-national news corporation will never have?

I believe a balance is always necessary, and that might never makes right. It just makes right now. Having the power to take land, force payment or enslave others doesn’t make your cause justified. In fact I would argue that an oppressor who lies to his slaves about their ten thousand year old history, and presents them as a fraction of a human being to all, is in truth more savage than that which he has reduced his fellow man to. Strength and power are the tools that can reinforce a document, a government, a people and a nation. Without them there is only the word, and unfortunately we are not as evolved as we would like to believe because we do not respect words, not even the words of God when we write them in our own image. We are taught to only respect fear and violence.

I am not arrogant enough to claim to have all the answers, but I come rather humbly myself to pose these questions so that you may discover the answer. May we repay the slave master by acting like the slave master? Or have we already gone this route before? Perhaps in our forgotten history we have already employed these strategies amongst ourselves. Can it be that we treated each other this way when Rome was yet to be conceived and Greek civilization was still an adolescent student of Egypt? Why is violent Revolution coupled with diplomatic conflict settlement only the recourse of the Super powers alone? Why is it presented to us as fruit from the tree of knowledge in the Garden of Eden? Perhaps it was our oppressor’s pact with the devil that made it so. These are question that are easy to answer only if a personal bias already exists within us, they are harder to answer when they speak to all of humanity, and what it reflects about the future of our species.

The earthquake itself did not discriminate by skin color when deciding who would die in the collapsing buildings. It cared nothing for their religion, family connections, or politics. Corrupt diplomats have perished within the same epicenter as innocent hard-working families, and dedicated public servants. The old and the young perish together subtracted from both sides of the equation. Our evolution is the rediscovery of the past, not an invention of a mythical future. Will we always be a small, petty people as a complete and single human race that we do not look beyond what is obvious in our faces as opposed to what is obvious in the actions that our hearts strive us towards?

As I look at the proud, resilient and suffering nation of Haiti. I have heard every sort of theory for this tragedy, an act of God, HAARP, and even superstition backed by the hands of social senility wielding faith. In the end I am left to ponder what role did the world’s super powers play in burying Haiti before the Earthquake, and what sort of role will we now play in digging her, and our own collective human soul, out of the rubble?

Beyond this though, I think we should begin to seriously change the way that we look at each other around the world. We are a global community, a single race of people who might one day all become Haitians.

To all my brothers & sisters: Those that I know personally, and those I do not, who have lost family and are suffering…

My Condolences along with Revolutionary Love & Respect,

[choiiiiiiiii]

not a fan of 99% of televangelists. pat robertson is up there.