There are SO MANY MORONS posting in this section!
People who believe in God and those who don't. This section has had no real debates with real knowledge from either side and consist of nothing but fucking opinions and random words that posters somehow think 'make goddamn sense.' Do I believe in God? Eh, not really. Do I believe in a possibility that there is a higher being? I can accept that there are things I don't and will never know, it's just that I simply don't care.
I think the Bible sets out a good moral code to follow.
In my opinion, Christanity is simply the most recent in a long line of religions dating back to when neanderthals/early humans quelled their anxieties about existence and death through made-up 'supreme beings.' The 'gods' of ancient Rome and Egypt were no more invalid as today's incarnations at the time. Egyptians had no knowledge of 'Christ' or the Christian 'God' because that particular religion had not been invented yet. But their gods of the time suited them just fine. There was no Christian heaven or hell during that epoch but I can bet you Ra and his fellow Egyptian gods had the same promises of delight mixed with damnation.
I do 'believe' there is life elsewhere in the universe. And in, perhaps, multiple universes. Just think for a minute on the possibilities of life in our own Milky Way galaxy. Our galaxy is light years long and contains billions among billions of stars and planets, suns, moons, ect. You can use the Drake Equation(remember, it's just an equation. Something to work with not be taken as hardcore actual fact) and arrive at around 10,000 unique and technological civilizations in our Milky Way galaxy alone. Multiply that by the number of galaxies in our obsevable universe (200 billion, give or take) and I think you can see that life is most likely abundant in the cosmos.
I also see talk about Evolution that people type with no knowledge of it.
For those that say that it hasn't been proven you are wrong! Yes it has been proven. Fruit flies can mutate at an incredible rate. Which is a reason why they're so popular with researchers. Mutation is the backbone on which Darwin's work was based. A slight genetic mistake that would turn out to be either beneficial or, at worst, fatal to an organism. Those that accidently received a 'good' mutation perhaps gained bigger wings as to avoid predators more efficiently. This allowed the newly-mutated bird a greater chance of surviving and passing on this new advantageous gene. Those with a newly-acquired 'bad' gene mutation (again, by chance alone)would be more susceptible to disease or deformity and would not be as likely to procreate succesfully. Genes don't care if they give you the prettiest blue eyes or a huge tumor. They just do what they're programmed to do.
I have already posted that post above with one of my alteregos(Fuhrer) and know that it deserves to be in here...
Now, lemme continue.
People might ask if chimps are still evolving and if they will become homo sapiens in X number of years? And if fish are still evolving and if they will all be eventually be pulling themselves out of the sea? The answer is, yes, chimps and fish (and every other life-form including plants) are still evolving. Given several million additional years, chimps could approach something like modern humans. But not homo sapiens, of course. They could become their own unique hominid species with intellegence rivaling modern humans. People need to wake up and realize that if the killer asteroid had not wiped out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago, humans would not exist today. The Earth would probably be populated by an upright-walking, technologically-advanced reptilian species rather than we warm-blooded mammals.
The thing is that species evolve over millions or tens of millions of years. Not fast enough for us to observe directly in its natural form. It's like looking at a sky full of stars and saying; 'see, they don't move.' If you could view a time-lapse over millions of years you'd see all the constellations changing shape and positions in front of your eyes. For us it's very difficult to imagine such large spans of time. We're only alive for maybe 75 years. Compare this to 3.5 billion. That's 3.5 million times 1000. A thousand years seems very long to us. Now take that single millenium and times it by millions. A lot of time for things to happen spontaneously.
A single species can split into two once they develop enough physiological differences through random mutations. And once they do split off they will continue to evolve autonomously on their own unique path and will eventually become two distinct species. But according to religious people - evolution isn't real? C'mon guys. You gotta stop being so fucking stupid.
I admit. Science does have it's flaws. Take the big bang for example. An atom exploded in the nothingness to spread out the universe. That takes power!
Unseen laws rule the entire process. The law of gravity, orbital laws, thermal dynamics. Who made the unseen laws? Some may say that God made it. Gravity, orbital laws (again, gravity) and thermodynamics are simply physics at work. The religious side likes to use 'unseen laws' as a retort to disproving a chance of the big bang being real yet they are more than willing to accept an 'unseen god' as the designer? Hahahaha, really?
Shit who knows? They might be right. A bearded supreme being sitting on a throne in the clouds did it. Haha, can you explain how it all really happend? Besides the hand-waving bit? I don't need an answer because the only REAL logical anser is NO. No one can. Not scientists and especially NOT your church.
... through my years of living which have not been many. I've come to realize that many things simply cannot be answered. Faith is something that I wish I could have. But I don't. Belief or 'faith' in a higher power is inspiring and without inspiration you have apathy. If you are apathetic, chances are you might me depressed, but for sure you are cynical. This isn't necessarily true but it is to an extent. Faith or belief is embedded in our very genetic structure. The question is, to what can one 'look up to' in order to find themselves smaller and vulnerable to. Science has found a multitude of answers to that question, even some with the notion of 'God.'
The problem goes back to the book of 'rules' and stories written and re-written or not written at all but passed down generation to generation to suit the author and purpose and to mold societies. There lies the real problem.
The natural world presents the biggest of the 'higher powers' as evidenced by the as much as ability of dust to form planets as the human ability to heal oneself and proliferate. Humans, being the 'top of the food chain' are actually weak in that sense as we have the vanity to think that we are superior. Some lack humility more than others. Authors of passages and commandments of the Bible recognized human weakness and sought to bring humility closer to human function, but, we are rebel by nature and the war will continue to rage on.
Individuals claim 'THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING!' But why? Why does there have to be something? Because you can't just sit there and think? Because you want an easy answer to why we were created? Why we are here? Grow up and read a book. And no, the Bible does not count.
Religion is destructive, violent, harmful and just plain abusive to our species. Sure, there is good that comes out of it but religion is just plain idiotic and immature. It's time to wake up and stop living in a fairy tale.
Think for YOURSELF.
... now before I finish up I would like to share an experience with you all. A church experience that took place in Virginia a few weeks ago. I'm just gonna get straight to the 'funny' part. Haha, so I went to church up there with my girlfriend and her grandma -- cute, I know. It wasn't a big church but it contained your normal family, normal pastor, and me. A brown spiky haired mexican. I admit. It was a little awkward when I walked in but I kept my cool and didn't let any of the glares get to me. :p lol the ceremony only lasted 45 mins and by then I was ready to get the fuck outta there and be on my way back to georgia but not before I left the church where the pastor was shaking the peoples' hands, blessing them, and telling 'em to leave with god -- except when it was my turn. He looked at me with disgust when I passed through him. I noticed it and so did my girlfriend. Hah, I wasn't going to be an ass and just walk out so I gave him my hand and said 'glad I could make it today.' And what did he say? NOTHING! I'm not even joking! Haha what an asshole, huh?
... God. Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirt.
The real truth of the matter is that no one knows for sure if they are real. Science has actually confirmed more religious dogma than it has disproved. I personally prefer to wait and see as opposed to relate things to others that are merely my own formulated opinions.
So with that I'd like to say; FUCK YOU ALL FOR BEING COMPLETE FUCKING TARDFUCKS WHO KNOW NOTHING AND HAVE NO REASON POSTING IN THIS SECTION! THE MAJORITY OF YOU ARE CLUELESS FUCKS AND NEED TO GET EDUCATED!
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