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    Quote Originally Posted by DarwinsA32
    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. A normal T-cell reading isn't unheard of with a good cocktail. It's modern medicine not your ghost man.

    He was crucified for being a nutjob who claimed to be the savior of man and "Rex Judei" (king of the jews) a dumb fuckin thing to do given the time frame in which he chose to.

    don't try to educate me with Old testament quotes, that book is a book of stories not to be literally translated like you're doing. I was raised catholic until 15 after my confirmation when it was my choice to follow or not. i chose not, because it's all bullshit.

    I tell you what, when we both have cancer, you can take the bible and your crucifix, i'll take the Chemo and interferon. We'll see who wins.
    I won't get cancer, it doesn't exist in my body.

    I normal T cell count? He had HIV for 5 years, that's not just bull. He no longer has it. If modern medicine is your answer then why is there no cure?
    Nothin yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BallerDave04
    I won't get cancer, it doesn't exist in my body.

    I normal T cell count? He had HIV for 5 years, that's not just bull. He no longer has it. If modern medicine is your answer then why is there no cure?

    Why don't you ask god?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarwinsA32
    Why don't you ask god?
    Dude, really...God is the cure.
    Nothin yet...

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    Did god tell you yet?

    Because you know, billions of people are waiting, if he's such a good god why the fuck can't he be so kind as to share with the ones he lets suffer.

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    Like I said before, my best friend had HIV for 5 years. Now he doesn't. How do you explain that? It's God brother.
    Because it progressed to AIDS now, or it was a false positive, or not HIV, it doesn't go away, and if it did, they need to get his DNA because his DNA would be quite valuable in the fight for a cure. BTW was your friend gay by any chance, or just had loose morals?

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    That's our job brother. We must share the good news. There is a radical movement about to happen. Look around you.

    If you don't have anything positive to say, please just keep your opinion to yourself. You are interfering with the work God has put on my life. If you aren't saying anything positive, it is automatically negative. The fact is, I'm not gonna argue with you anymore. I know the truth and the truth is you can NEVER disprove that God exist. So keep trying if you wish to, it will be in vain.

    I think a lot of people don't believe in God or have there indifferent opinions because they feel it justifies their actions. The ones that think this life is just supposed to be lived and then you die. There is more to it. I think those people just don't want to answer to a higher power. It's sad really. Being a Christian is not easy, I'm not gonna lie. It's hard overcoming temptations everyday. In the end, I know it's worth it. God shows His many blessings now and I will walk with Him after I pass. Makes life worth living knowing that I am doing something right. I live a life of serving others. Get right with the One that made you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starrfire
    Because it progressed to AIDS now, or it was a false positive, or not HIV, it doesn't go away, and if it did, they need to get his DNA because his DNA would be quite valuable in the fight for a cure. BTW was your friend gay by any chance, or just had loose morals?
    Had it for 5 years and was tested many times. Not a false negative. Tested many times after he was healed and its not there anymore. NO HIV or AIDS in his body. NOTHING is impossible with God.
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    I'm just going to throw out some thoughts of mine to you, Dave, in a casual non-threatening way.

    Quote Originally Posted by BallerDave04
    It would have been rather difficult to fit them [dinosaurs] all on the Ark...
    Wouldn't it be rather difficult to fit most creatures on the ark in the firstplace? Also considering the fact that there are many many species of creature. And did Noah take plants onto the ark as well? Because a lot of plants will die if they are suspended underwater.

    Quote Originally Posted by BallerDave04
    I have personally experienced Him in my life.
    How? And how to do know its "Him"?

    Quote Originally Posted by BallerDave04
    It says in the Bible you pray for your enemies.
    How come in the Bible God says to do horrible things to people?

    Quote Originally Posted by BallerDave04
    the Bible should be our guide for Good and evil.
    Psalm 137:9

    "Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."

    Is that in the "guide"?

    Quote Originally Posted by BallerDave04
    How do you explain all the healings, miracles, etc?
    What healings, miracles? Specifically.
    "Only what can happen, does happen."

    Quote Originally Posted by BallerDave04
    Jesus took 39 lashes on His back before He was crucified for you.
    how does that work?

    Quote Originally Posted by BallerDave04
    Like I said before, my best friend had HIV for 5 years. Now he doesn't. How do you explain that?
    If you had HIV and now he doesn't, does that mean he has AIDS now? Because there the only documented cases of HIV curing is through use of bone marrow transplants, transfusions, heavy medicine, stem cells. Not god.

    Quote Originally Posted by BallerDave04
    I won't get cancer, it doesn't exist in my body.
    You can get cancer if you try hard enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimabog
    I'm just going to throw out some thoughts of mine to you, Dave, in a casual non-threatening way.


    Wouldn't it be rather difficult to fit most creatures on the ark in the firstplace? Also considering the fact that there are many many species of creature. And did Noah take plants onto the ark as well? Because a lot of plants will die if they are suspended underwater.


    How? And how to do know its "Him"?


    How come in the Bible God says to do horrible things to people?


    Psalm 137:9

    "Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."

    Is that in the "guide"?



    What healings, miracles? Specifically.
    "Only what can happen, does happen."


    how does that work?






    You can get cancer if you try hard enough.
    Ok, I was just joking about the dinosaurs on the Ark, I understand it wouldn't have happened like that. The dinosaurs probably died before that time. I can't say what happen for sure, I do know that these creatures were mentioned in the Bible.

    How do I know it's God? I feel His presence. He makes me feel great. He does what He says He's going to do. He blesses the people that follow His direction. That's how I know.

    You can't take the Bible out of context like that. If you look at the Psalm you are referring to I will direct you to Isaiah 13:16 which is referring to a prophecy about Babylon. You have to look at the Old Testament and New Testament a little different from one another. The OT is a very violent book. The NT is a guide for how we should live. Don't take the Bible out of context or you will get pwned.

    The Healings and Miracles. The ones that my church experiences all the time. People being healed of sicknesses. Not having to take medicine anymore because God has healed them. Be being obedient He is blessing us.

    "If you had HIV and now he doesn't, does that mean he has AIDS now? Because there the only documented cases of HIV curing is through use of bone marrow transplants, transfusions, heavy medicine, stem cells. Not god."

    Like I said, He never had AIDS and doesn't now. He had HIV and doesn't now. He didn't have any transfusions or transplants. It was all God and His power to do the "impossible."

    I won't get cancer, why would I want to try? That's not a very smart statement.

    -Dave
    Nothin yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballerdave
    You can't take the Bible out of context like that. If you look at the Psalm you are referring to I will direct you to Isaiah 13:16 which is referring to a prophecy about Babylon.
    How convenient, a quote to contradict another.

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    This is getting out of hand, NOTHING can be proven, TARDS. But wishful thinking won't change anything for the better if say you have cancer.Yes, it can just go away. The human psyche is a very powerful tool but there and it will actually help someone pull out of a rut, and sickness and depression can also be evaded buy such, but don't press your luck. Your Congregational Holiness tail is a bit more simple minded than you think MR. Macon. And as for 2012, don't get your hopes up. I can't prove anything, but at the same time neither can you and I'm not expecting anything. Hope for the best but expect the worst.

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    I can logically prove that Heaven/Hell can't exist without referring to anything related to religion or metaphysical (except for heaven/hell)

    Also,
    "I won't get cancer, why would I want to try? That's not a very smart statement."

    But you must understand that you are physically capable of developing cancer. You most likely wont get it if you have no recent family history of it, and you keep your body clear of cancerous stuff. But you are capable of getting it. Don't tell me you can run naked through a highly radioactive area smoking cigars on a hot sunny day while drinking toxic liquids without getting cancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by §treet_§peed
    but srsly. you don't think there are other things out there you narrow minded fuck
    How am I narrow-minded? I have lived in more countries than you have visited (if you have ever left the U.S.).. I have visited 5 countries in South America, 4 in Central America, at least half the countries in Europe and Asia, and this summer I am going to Tahiti..

    Not believing in the ridiculous is narrow-minded? People said the world was going to end in 2000..

    You believing that the world is going to end in 2012, believing that Aliens visit the earth in their Alien Spacecrafts, and ignoring common sense, logic, and science IS narrow-minded..

    And in the quoted post, if you are referring to "other life forms out there" I already answered that question more than once.. Yes, there is life out there! Just 20+ million light years away.. How does that not click in your head? Do you grasp what 20+ million light years away means?

    I don't think you do, because if you did, you wouldn't think aliens come visit earth in their Alien spacecrafts..
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    wow this is supposed to be about 2012, and as far as religion goes you can go back 20000 years and throughout times there have been several different saviors. they all have the same birth date, same number of deciples(astrology reference) dies, resurected blah blah bla. all of it is astrology references. the story of christ can also be found at the pyramids in eqypt, same story but his name aws horace. the moral of the story is all of them relate to the SUN. the sun is what brings us life and goes through cycles and a new cycle starts on dec 21st 2012. there have been many ancient civilizations with great technology and all of them have important messages about our SUN, but they all mysteriously vanished. you guys can stay here and wait for god, im gonna go make sure the fucks with all the knowledge don't start another bad cycle like we are in now. did you know that our presidents/rulers/kings/bankres bloodlines can be traced back to babylon, they have always been in power and there are symbols of this and the importance of the sun everywhere, we are just to stupid as a population to figure it out.
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    also dave and others, do you have a jesus fish on your car, if you do it stands for jesus is in the age of pisces, its amazing how it all points to the sun and stars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPOOLIN
    quit talking about religion, this thread is about astronomical events. lol.
    lol thats what i intended the thread to be about. but of course everyone is gonna associate it with religion. cause i believe something is gonna happen. never did i once say anything about god. just said i think something is gonna happen. might be like day after tomorrow, who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frög
    How am I narrow-minded? I have lived in more countries than you have visited (if you have ever left the U.S.).. I have visited 5 countries in South America, 4 in Central America, at least half the countries in Europe and Asia, and this summer I am going to Tahiti..

    Not believing in the ridiculous is narrow-minded? People said the world was going to end in 2000..

    You believing that the world is going to end in 2012, believing that Aliens visit the earth in their Alien Spacecrafts, and ignoring common sense, logic, and science IS narrow-minded..

    And in the quoted post, if you are referring to "other life forms out there" I already answered that question more than once.. Yes, there is life out there! Just 20+ million light years away.. How does that not click in your head? Do you grasp what 20+ million light years away means?

    I don't think you do, because if you did, you wouldn't think aliens come visit earth in their Alien spacecrafts..
    forgive me for being born without a silver and gold spoon up my ass. mommy and daddies money is nice to have i bet. I just thought 20 million light years means its the time it would take light to travel from a one place to another. you have no imagination is your problem. imagination is what created everything you know today jack ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPOOLIN
    yeah i can't stand the people that just can't believe there was dinosaurs and that they and the earth was around 65ish million years ago. The proof is in the science there. They refuse the findings. I mean thats like refusing to believe that water is wet, and the sun is hot.

    btw dinosaurs are still alive today, they are just damn birds. the university of wisconsin stumbled on this a few years ago, but they can actually add protien to the dna while forming and the chicken has t-rex teeth. there is also a chicken in china that has the same feathers as a velociraptor. a chicken actually looks like a dinosuar while it's in the egg, they just evolved like every other creature on this planet. if you get a flu shot you believe in evolution, we are getting taller and bieng born without organs both, or one parent had removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by preferredduck
    btw dinosaurs are still alive today, they are just damn birds. the university of wisconsin stumbled on this a few years ago, but they can actually add protien to the dna while forming and the chicken has t-rex teeth. there is also a chicken in china that has the same feathers as a velociraptor. a chicken actually looks like a dinosuar while it's in the egg, they just evolved like every other creature on this planet. if you get a flu shot you believe in evolution, we are getting taller and bieng born without organs both, or one parent had removed.
    http://www.answersingenesis.org/crea.../dinosaurs.asp
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    lol are you guys talking about magic johnson? He went over seas and got a "non FDA Approved" cure for that shit!

    A light year is the distance light travels in one year. Its a lot. LOL.

    If something is going to happen, I don't believe its going to be of the light switch variety, i believe it will be something that we can adapt to as it happens. I feel for the people that are near major faults and such.

    I knew birds are the descendants of dinosaurs.
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    http://hubpages.com/hub/Will-Man-Eve...Dinosaur-Again

    photos of some funky chickens.

    http://www.animalliberationfront.com...nesisTake2.htm

    chickens with tails, embryos

    http://biotechfiles.com/2008/06/ther...hicken-genome/

    and the tooth buds. btw i liked the article you posted. ever watched monster quest? lol i don't think we know everything about our planet and i think the knowledge structure keeps us from knowing whats up
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPOOLIN
    lol are you guys talking about magic johnson? He went over seas and got a "non FDA Approved" cure for that shit!

    A light year is the distance light travels in one year. Its a lot. LOL.

    If something is going to happen, I don't believe its going to be of the light switch variety, i believe it will be something that we can adapt to as it happens. I feel for the people that are near major faults and such.

    I knew birds are the descendants of dinosaurs.
    im with you on that every ancient culture says a time of dna evolution, etc, so we won't like just die instantly, has anybody seen the commercial for a star being seen in the sky day or night and that its the savior coming back, could be planet X instead. lol. no bs i really have seen that commercail on cnn.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gkCT...t-and-day.html

    this is what im talking about, its all major religions
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPOOLIN
    lol are you guys talking about magic johnson? He went over seas and got a "non FDA Approved" cure for that shit!
    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by preferredduck
    also dave and others, do you have a jesus fish on your car, if you do it stands for jesus is in the age of pisces, its amazing how it all points to the sun and stars.
    No it doesn't. I hate god, and i know that the fish represents the 2 fish jesus magically turned into 1,000's

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarwinsA32
    No it doesn't. I hate god, and i know that the fish represents the 2 fish jesus magically turned into 1,000's
    a lot of things from most religions, including ancient ones got there crap filled lies from astrology. like the birth dates, died and ressurected 3 days later, all relates to the winter solstice and the coming of spring. it's all based on the SUN. we can trace this back like thousands of years. as george carland said its the best bullshit story ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarwinsA32
    No it doesn't. I hate god, and i know that the fish represents the 2 fish jesus magically turned into 1,000's
    Well at least acknowledging God is a start

    The fish sign you see on people's cars was use as a message to other members of the early church.

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    yes, it told other members that they had a car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soul
    2012 is in alot of different text, there is only one certain thing that is going to happen, a pole shift, and what that can bring no one knows yet. If we want to get biblical, Jesus said" i will be with you till the end of the AGE" not the end of the world. 2012 is also the end of an age, Pisces (the fish/jesus) ushering in a new age auqeries*sp, the water bearer, represnting a great flood, not of actual water, but of knowledge,understanding,spirituality,war etc...

    But like i said the only true thing we know will happen is a pole shift.... only time will tell
    very true, many of the bible's notions, prophecy's, stories, and even characters are all astrological personification/references. but the Age of aquarius doesn't start until about 2050. 2012 means nothing.


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    I think the complexity behind this is to much to simply chat about over a computer screen. If your interested in it, go to a discussion group or talk to some philosophers. You'll learn a lot and I guarantee you'll have a new outlook if your not very familiar with the subject. I had a room mate who was quite smart and literally dropped out of school because all he did was research Myan philosophy. I have a feeling if he ever grows up he may change his habits so he can succeed with his education and balance the time he spends on his interests instead of constantly talking about it.
    I am a very "by the fact" type of person, so his extremely open mind and my way of thinking brought together some great conversation..

    What I can tell you is simple......
    Based on the Myan calendar, what's "known" evidence and my beliefs, I think around the year 2012 there will be significant change. It may not be obvious, and probably not anything life threatening (for now), but something in the universe and the world is going to change that's going to alter how we view our current future. It probably won't affect us much, or our kids, or our kids kids but it may be something that'll eventually lead to a different Earth or a lack there of, maybe thousands of years from now. I don't believe in an "end of the world" or an "antichrist" or "global destruction" because there just isn't enough evidence to support it (that I know of). However, I do believe there may be a "change" that'll occur do to their amazingly successful studies in astronomy in the past and I think it's a theory that's reasonable to consider true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnURleft
    I think the complexity behind this is to much to simply chat about over a computer screen. If your interested in it, go to a discussion group or talk to some philosophers. You'll learn a lot and I guarantee you'll have a new outlook if your not very familiar with the subject. I had a room mate who was quite smart and literally dropped out of school because all he did was research Myan philosophy. I have a feeling when he grows up he may change his habits so he can succeed in his education and balance the time he spends on his interests.
    I am a very "by the fact" type of person, so his extremely open mind and my way of thinking brought together some great conversation..

    What I can tell you is simple......
    Based on the Myan calendar, what's "known" evidence and my beliefs, I think around the year 2012 there will be significant change. It may not be obvious, and probably not anything life threatening (for now), but something in the universe and the world is going to change that's going to alter how we view our current future. It probably won't affect us much, or our kids, or our kids kids but it may be something that'll eventually lead to a different Earth or a lack there of, maybe thousands of years from now. I don't believe in an "end of the world" or an "antichrist" or "global destruction" because there just isn't enough evidence to support it (that I know of). However, I do believe there may be a "change" that'll occur do to their amazingly successful studies in astronomy in the past and I think it's a theory that's reasonable to consider true.
    i like your thoughtsw on that, very good. i dont think the earth is going to blow up and jesue is coming back but something is up. i noticed that throughout history several wars and other events were done a certain astrological times. hte universe has a pulse which is connected to us. we have seen the science behind the cycles of the earth and one thing that gets me in ancient civilizations just dissapeared but left us clues or what not. i keep an open mind b/c in my eyes thats the only way to be. i hate hard core cosed minded people that even if you have a valid point they cry BS, like extreme christians for example.. i laughed when i heard abt donations for bibles for iraq, big waste of $$ if you ask me. that and everything on the planet is made on energy, where does it come from and where does it go. next jehova's witness that comes to my house is gonna be told planet X is coming to get them. lol i love messing with some people. i will never tell someone what to believe in but throwing around theories never hurts either. after 15 yrs of these types of conversations(sometimes on LSD when younger) i keep an open mind on what people say, but i got annoyed at a few christians at athens tech who tried to ram it down my throat. you know according to new info given to the LEO's christians are actually labeled as a form of militia/domestic terrorist these days. good post man.
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