oh lol..
whats god's role then?
haha. >_<
oh lol..
whats god's role then?
haha. >_<
Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
1 John 5:7
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
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I don't know if you're too old to process that I am just asking a GODdamn question because I don't know or if you're just too busy trying to be the smartest guy on IA to realize that I am just asking a GODdamn question because I don't know, but there is no GODdamn reason to emphasize that I don't know much about this GODdamn shit. So quit with the GODdamn "you too evidently" bullshit and just try answering the GODdamn question. Or is that too GODdamn hard?
Now, if you can see that I am just asking a GODdamn question here:
The scenario from what you guys are saying (the way I am reading it) is that God impregnated Mary and nine months later (or whenever Mary has this kid) she gives birth to God and they call God Jesus.
Check this out: I DON'T UNDERSTAND!
There. Now you don't have to point it out to me that I don't get it. Later, QD.
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I'll answer the question any way I see fit. But thanks for your input.
I would also add that my statement was clearly not a jab at you but simply placed you in the same boat with all the rest of us. Thats not an insult.
The fact you seem to find it so is your problem really. There's no intention there.
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"God" is 3 entitys that are One. The role is unified.
Youre correct in that the Father (Ancient of Days) is judge. Its also correct that Christ is judge. The Unity of the Godhead was all I was pointing out.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
John 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
As to the question, how did God impregnate Mary?
How does any miracle happen? The fact that its not explainable by human reasoning is itself an answer, but alas there is a reason.
Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Whats the "sign"?? A virgin will concieve. Thats when you will know its the Messiah, the Christ. No other person has or will ever be concieved in this same way.
As to the how...the Bible says this....Luke 1:26,27 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
Matt 1:18-20 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
ANSWER - the miraculous conception occured by the power of God through His Spirit. There is no earthly answer for it, thats what makes it a miracle. The method was a sign to any who would believe of the end result.....the arrival of the Saviour.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
Contrary to popular notions Mary, although a virgin, was NOT immaculate in the sense of being without any sin or sinless.
Rom 3:10-12 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Rom 3:23,24 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Luke 1:46,7 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour
Clearly Mary understood her need of a Saviour.
There's no need to "place me in the same boat." It was unnecessary to point that out. I never claimed to know everything or most anything about this crap. That's why I asked. Not to be told that it's obvious I don't know. So I guess you're just too goddamn old to realize shit, huh? Fucking dummy. Learn how to speak to others and they may not take you "the wrong way." Later, QD.
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Interesting that you didnt seem to understand the plain english of my post yet call me a dummy...oh well. Like I said, I answer questions as I see fit. Thanks anyway.
I did seem to understand your English. I just didn't understand the stupidity in your reply. And I'll refer to you as how I see fit. Later, QD.
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*yawn*
As I will construct my posts and wording as I see fit.
As I will refer to you as I see fit. You keep on using Google to make you feel more superior to others so that you can "justify" talking down on some people. Later, QD.
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LOL youre amusing.
Mission accomplished. Later, QD.
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Hey if you (or anyone) wish to engage in intellgent discussion of religion, which is supposed to be the topic I think, I am always here for that.
As long as you don't put my intelligence(or lack of) down. I'm up for it. That' why I tried to join in this one. Later, QD.
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Like I said QD, I never put you down, only in the same class with all the rest of us, which I think is pretty good company in generalNor was that intention ever there.
Whatever. I'd much rather discuss matters of Bible/religion/beliefs etc in this forum than your various faults, mine or someone elses.
Ok, man. Whatever you say. It seems you're always the right one. Later, QD.
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Why does it matter who is right? Shouldnt the focus be on WHAT is right??
I care not WHO I learn a fact, tidbit, or piece of info from. The person stating a fact or giving their understanding has no bearing on what the facts actually are or might be.
Your question was...
How is Jesus God, when he is supposed to be the son of God? Is he his own Dad?
That would mean that the people in Alabama had it right all along and the rest of the world was wrong that incest is best....in some weird way. Later, QD.
Making the point that NO ONE truly UNDERSTANDS the exact nature of how God became a man, or fully comprehends the nature of the Godhead (even the Bible calls it a mystery) I answered it honestly with what I do know and understand. Thats all anyone can do, especially given the gravity of this specific subject.
If someone has further insight into it I'd like to hear it.
Yep. Later, QD.
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