Suicide...
What are your views on this as far as the church goes? Am I right in thinking that it is a major sin? I've heard it was very wrong(church-wise) because you are basically killing something God made in his own image, which, in turn, says you are killing God, himself. Later, QD.
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I can't really explain my position on suicide... but I do feel it does keep you out of heaven... Any non-uncontrollable death... For instance if somebody REALLY wanted to die... just go to a bad part of town and start throwing punches, somebodies gonna kill your ass... but still suicide. Can't explain why I think it's an instant "no heaven" move.. but i feel that it is.
I feel no matter what suicide is the worst of all sins. I got different views on it but i don't feel its forgivable. Catholics believe all sins are forgivable except suicide.
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Originally Posted by SwiftGTiRacer
Yeah, Priests molesting innocent alter boys is forgivable.
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Yeah, Priests molesting innocent alter boys is forgivable.
Lol...
My unlce hunged himself last week. Crazy shit. I guess we know where his going then.
Seriously Man?
lol @ the preist joke.
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If the priest is sincere about it and redeems himself, yes. Killing is also forgivable and along with other things. Hard to believe but i guess thats where faith comes in.Yeah, Priests molesting innocent alter boys is forgivable.
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you sure you are NOT a priest?
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I don't think priest has a lot of damn time to be posting on the internet..they have church to run and prayers to be said.
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Wait but wasn't it brought up before that suicide is unforgivable because you are killing something in gods image? Committing a murder is no different is it not... well I guess after you commit a murder you can repent where as after someone commits suicide they cannot.
I think it's a selfish and pussy thing to do, but some people who are spending their lives in extraordinary amounts of pain deserve to be able to choose when they want to go. (an example here would be the people who jumped out of the twin towers after they were hit. They jumped to their death rather than burn to death in agony I feel they should be forgiven, but following the rules of the bible they technically committed suicide.)
There are so many religious beliefs and takes on the afterlife that it's not even worth worrying about anymore. I used to be a catholic... now a days I dont really believe in anything. Lead a clean true life and youll have nothing to worry about in the end... plus you wont feel like dick when you're on your deathbed and look back on your life.
I really dont think you should base the "consequences" for suicide on one religions reachings... In the end... youll see what happens.
True dat
Suicide=Rot in Hell. People that kill themselves are the biggest pussies to ever walk the planet. The funny thing is is for someone to "escape" LIFE they kill themselves for a ETERNITY of damnation. LMAO
^^^ Lolol. That's a good way to put it.
If you go to Hell for suicide and you commit suicide because your life is hell.....hmmmmmmm. WTF?!?!? Lolol. Later, QD.
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if this was true why would 'god' let someone kill themselves?
why would god let there be genocide?
why would god create katrina and kill hundreds or thousands of people?
why would god let priests live who molest people yet let innocent people die in random accidents?
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god gave man free will
NATURAL SELECTION MAYBE ??COULDNT TELL YOU.why would god let there be genocide?
DONT KNOW..why are we born to die ?why would god create katrina and kill hundreds or thousands of people?
i dont know but the saying "the good mostly die young" comes to mind though...why would god let priests live who molest people yet let innocent people die in random accidents?
God does not let them kill themselves. Free will. Just like God does not let you "not believe' in him. That is your choice.
That would be like asking the question "Who do God let people kill each other / murder each other". Again. It is not God that does it.
See: Revelations
He has something different in mind for those priests.
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those questions are improper, it's not about god "LETTING" anything happen!
There are answers to us that are unfathomable to our minds, we are not supposed to understand the reason for every occurance!
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and why would god let you post?
lol
ok now stop this shit... this post needs to die a slow painful death.
but on the subject of suicide...for me personally, no matter how bad things may get in the world, self termination is never,NEVER an option i'd use.
suicide shows u have no respect for life and it is wrong.
^^The only thing it shows is you have no respect for the lives around you, I dont see how killing yourself show you have no respect for anything living. It just shows how selfish a person is to think of thier needs only and not care how it will affect the family and friends arund them.
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I feel that suicide is the easy way out...
for some reason i dont agree... i think suicide is straight stupid. Again i think someone has to have some marbles loose to even contemplate it. No matter how bad shit gets... logically... having shit to begin with is better than not having any shit at all... whether it be good shit or bad shit..
anyone catch my drift?
god allows us free will. he cany interfere with everything. kevin u are wondering why god permits suffering. i got alil something that can explain that. pm me one day
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That was DULUTH AKA HULUD inquiring not me!
I have a general understanding of why things are the way they are.
What lead you to think that i asked the ?'s (just wondering) But thanks though Brandon.
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I've asked that question several times on here. Later, QD.
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DULUTH? wtf? lol???
That was DULUTH AKA HULUD inquiring not me!
I have a general understanding of why things are the way they are.
What lead you to think that i asked the ?'s (just wondering) But thanks though Brandon.
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unfortunately without suffering there would be no compassion
Come on man HULUD Reverse is DULUH add a "T" Between the "U" & "H" Nah Mean?
I think God allowing a person to commit suicide is the same as God allowing us to choose our denomination. "Free Will" as previously stated, is a variable in our lives.
We're not just puppets in a play people.
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very well said Kevin
^ very true!
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Maybe it's just my Bible, but I can't find any place where it says that suicide sends you to hell. I think that whole thing was made up to keep the Christians from killing themselves when they went through persecution. Suicide is a sin. Just like everyother sin Jesus died on the cross for. Not unforgivable.
its fucking stupid religiously or not
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The answer...
Some people believe that all who commit suicide go immediately to Hell. However, the Bible never says if this is the case. The Bible is silent on this issue. God probably did not address it in black in white for a good reason. If we knew that we would still go to Heaven if we killed ourselves, there would probably be a lot more suicides taking place than there already are. However, if we knew that all who killed themselves were automatically banished to Hell, no matter what their situation, it may be too much for the grief-stricken family and friends to bear. Murder and suicide are not unpardonable sins. The only unforgivable sins are rejecting Christ (Mark 16:16) and blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
(Mark 3:28-29 KJV) Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
All other sins can be forgiven. However, anyone contemplating suicide may be in danger of going to Hell, as their relationship with the Lord is not intact at that point. Those who would consider suicide may have a severed relationship with Christ and therefore they would enter the real Hell--which is worse than the hellish feelings they are experiencing at the moment.
LaurenK a.k.a. Mrs. Nixon
good answer
+1
if you really think about it, suicide is the same as murder.. both don't keep you out of heaven
"Thou shalt not kill" which means not even yourself...
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Actually, the commandment is 'Thou shalt not murder'.
Anyways, I'm kind of surprised everyone is viewing suicide through such a narrow lens.
You're all thinking of the depressed teen or the distraught businessman who's stock just hit a low and left him with nothing.
What about the 70 year old with a debilitating and chronically painful condition that's left him bedridden, rotting away from bedsores, unable to even shit or piss on his own, barely able to talk?
You think it's an unforgivable sin for this person to want to end his life, because his existence can only tenuously be called living?
This person, who could have done great things, good works throughout his entire life, wanting an extra-heavy dose of morphine so he can finally go to sleep forever and let the pain stop, will be condemned to eternal damnation in a lake of fire?
Give me a break.
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[QUOTE=LaurenK]The answer...
The only unforgivable sins are rejecting Christ (Mark 16:16) and blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
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How abt the non-beleivers or non-christian...are they = to rejecting christ?
Are all of them going to hell in that case?
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[QUOTE=ruah_23]that is where interpetation gets funny...
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