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    hey, ive been a health nut lately...i been doing a water cleanse along with fasting, drinking a little more than half my weight in water with 1 meal a day plenty of grain/protein.

    i weigh 144 pounds, 5'11'' (usually weigh in around 140), but im guessing 5 pounds of just water weight because of how much i have been drinking.

    i want to start working out , i have always been strong for my size, but not cut. i have been doing 10 push ups, 10 crunches and 10 sit ups, trying to work my way up to almost 500 a day. just need some advice if anyone knows this type of diet/workout routine on what is the outcome.

    i can definitely see a difference with the water cleanse, and hoping to gain 15 pounds of muscle.

    also to add, my metabolism is insanely fast.
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    your a damn stick....only advice i can give you cuz i was in the same boat as you before. just eat, dont worry about cutting unless your trying to define and get big at the same time. that takes longer. if you want to gain wait, just eat as much as you can and lift heavy, you can worry about cutting later.
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    dont want to lift heavy, dont want to bulk up, im looking for a lean/cut body. that was horrible advice, if you were in the same boat as me you would know your skin fat actually acts like a vacuum and sucks it to the muscle when you lose it.

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    got dayum...6 feet and 144??? jeebusim 2 inches taller and almost 100lbs heavier and im skinny as ****

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    Quote Originally Posted by japan4racing
    got dayum...6 feet and 144??? jeebusim 2 inches taller and almost 100lbs heavier and im skinny as ****


    yeah i know, im 6'3 and i used to way like between 156 and 160 like a year ago, and i put on about 30 to 35 lbs and i still feel skinny. im stronger then i ever have been but im damn near not what i want to be. im lookin for lik 220 or so. i got like 40 lbs to go or something
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    if your already skinny as hell tho, wont being lean/cut make you look more skrawny? i know you'll have definition and everything. but it just seems like you would look weird. i dunno, but yeah, thats what im doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacknightteg
    if your already skinny as hell tho, wont being lean/cut make you look more skrawny? i know you'll have definition and everything. but it just seems like you would look weird. i dunno, but yeah, thats what im doing.
    shoulders are key there

    my chest is also big naturally

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benefit
    shoulders are key there

    my chest is also big naturally

    shoulders are only key to an extent, i mean you might like you have broad shoulders. but it wont look right if a few parts of your body are somewhat big and everything else is more so smaller and defined. i dunno, for me, i'm looking for getting bigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by japan4racing
    got dayum...6 feet and 144??? jeebusim 2 inches taller and almost 100lbs heavier and im skinny as ****
    lol really 5'10 240lbs?

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    yea im looking for around 155-160tops at this height

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benefit
    yea im looking for around 155-160tops at this height

    but thats the thing man, im not saying i know your body or anything, but if your 6'0, your only 3 inches shorter then me and i still look skinny and i weigh 186lbs
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    yea its mostly based on frame size, so thats why i want a lean/cut

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    i guess, i dunno. lean/cut on tall skinny guys to me just looks weird. but yeah if you do want that just make sure you do high reps low weight.
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    yea i dont look skinny though , no one would be able to guess im 140

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    First off... Your a skinny ****. lol

    But basically you have a high metabolism. I do too. I am 6'3'' about 190 lbs and somewhat cut.

    I actually just started the P90x workout. Its an ass kicker. The best I have used yet.

    Anyways, in your words you just want to keep being cut but put on weight. Its very hard. Its not a walkin the park at all. Gaining lean muscle takes the longest. Ive tried it, and it takes wayyy to much time/diet/planning with my busy lifestyle. I highly suggest bulking up a little with heavy weight, then cutting back up. Its much easier and youll have a stronger back that can support a bigger body structure later on.

    But, if your set on doing it your way I would reccomend the 300 spartan workout. Its an endurance workout, takes about 45 minutes and it will destroy you. Drink ALOT of water, try to eat a little more to compensate for your metabolism and stay away from Sweets/cake/junk food and you will improve.

    http://www.menshealth.com/cda/articl...0012281eac____

    Or just google "300 spartan workout".

    Good luck. If you really want to do this I suggest getting some supplements. For you, Try an N20 based product. When I do endurance stuff I use Superpump 250. Its more energy and oxygen to your muscles, you can push yourself harder and accomplish more.

    Do that workout for about a month, then change it up to a bulk style workout. Then swap back again.
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    TALK TO REAPER...

    THAT P90X LOOKS LIKE A BEAST FOR REAL..I WANT TO TRY IT..BUT I FEEL I WILL FAIL LOL



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    Eat lots of protein and lift weights........use a weight range that makes you work, but are able to complete 10-12 reps in sets of 3.

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    do some research on bodybuilding.com a bunch of great articles and workout routines.

    how many meals do you eat a day?

    are you taking any supplements?

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    P90x is a great workout...but just for extra info...

    You need to be eating 5-6 times a day...3 part carbs, 2 part protein, 1 part fat.

    Go to gnc or wherever and get you some protein. NOT MUSCLE MILK AND NOT THE GENERIC CRAP! Get Goat Whey...its REAL protein!!!

    You need to be taking a protein shake between breakfast and lunch, and between lunch and dinner and also 25 minutes after a workout.

    Your at a dangerously low body weight for your height. You NEED to gain weight, in a healthy manner so your going to "bulk" but it'll take quite some time for you to ever get huge. BUT since you don't want to get there your goals shouldn't take too terribly long to achieve. Your going to get ripped considering your size, but your muscles need growth.

    Idk if you do the following but I'm just going to go ahead and say it anyways.

    -Quit drinking or keep it to 1 night a week
    -Sleep atleast 7-8hrs a night
    -Eat 5-6 times a day
    -Cardio should be walking on a treadmil for 30 minutes at a slight incline.
    -EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT


    Another thing...All your reps should be low to mid. NOT HIGH REPS, YOUR NOT TRYING TO RIP YOUR TRYING TO GAIN. 5-8 reps max and sets of 3 tops. PUSH YOURSELF, but BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT WEIGHT YOUR LIFTING, FOCUS ON FORM!!! I would normally say do less weight and higher reps except when doing abs....HIGH REPS low weight if any.

    Pushing- mondays
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    Shoulders- Thursdays
    Mix it up-Fridays

    Abs every other day...Keep cardio to a minimum

    Also change your exercises each week...


    As far as supplements are concerned....different ones work for different people. I don't suggest anything from MuscleTech(noxplode, cellmass) or MRI(NO2, CE2).

    I'd personally suggest Superpump250 and Size On...Do exactly what the directions say and it'll help with endurance and focus during a workout...You'll see your gains MUCH faster with this, especially if your eating right


    Hope this helps, I'd give you more information but I'd need more details etc...PM me if you'd like. I'm a personal trainer, so I'd be glad to help.
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    i was doing the 300 spartan workout before but it was kicking my ass, and i wasnt seeing results...

    im at a point right now where anything i do contributes DIRECTly to my body and i can see results almost immediately.

    like i said , i have a different frame , my shoulders are broad and my chest is large naturally , i just need to work a little on them, but my ab area is getting into shape , if i flex i can see riblets.

    and im not trying to eat right now since im trying to do a cleanse first...

    i have been looking up fight club workout , but it looks wayy too intense...

    my BMI is 19.5 , which is perfect

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    yea i was waiting for reaper to input on this...i want to talk to you a little more man

    like i said , normally, when i was not on this water cleanse...i would be eating atleast 12 small meals a day....i have weighed 140 since 9th grade...fluctuating 4-5lbs in between bowel movements lol.

    right now im trying to lose the skin fat because i wont be able to see any improvements if theres a layer of fat over my muscle.

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    something like this



    he weighed 155 at 5'11 in that movie, and said to have put on 15 pounds of straight muscle...so he was somewhere around 140ish before?
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    LOL STFU you weigh like 120lbs wet benefitx... you have the frame of a 12 year old vietnamese girl.

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    hahaha yea rite

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    Eat a lot of protein, and do these exercises 3-5 times weekly:

    do atleast 10-15 sets in a row.(if you start off from 15, then do 14,13, 12,etc.)

    1. Stand up and put your hand in air
    2.duck down, put your hand on the ground and kick your leg back(pushup position)
    3.Then do a push up.
    4.Kick your leg back in
    5.stand up again
    (this **** gets you strong and you dont need any equipment)
    I have seen a lot of people do this exercise up river in florida. If you did atleast 15sets there you were considered strong.

    i'm guessing you want upper body like that dude in the pic. so do as much push up as you can. and increase that number little by little each day.

    after that do sit ups.

    also start bench pressing and do butterfly.(need equipment for those)

    For best result get a gym member ship. L.A fitness will give you free lesson with a instructor. Listen to what he tells you and do that every day. without the proper equipment theres only few things you can do.

    i'm only 5''7 but with all those for year or 2 i was able to bench 245 the max and started off benching 110. of course i got lazy now and cant bench 245.

    Oh yeah the most important thing!! Dont get lazy!!! Work out Every day or every other day. Especially if your body frame is small. You will have to work out twice as hard as the big people. they get stronger way faster with less work out.

    g/l with everything hope it helped.
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    im hearing a whole bunch of bull**** so far. I am studying exersice physiology and have been working out for around 4 years. At your weight and height you need to start weight training and eating healthy food..lots of carbs and protein b4 workout and lots of protein after..drink a protein shake b4 u go to sleep also..you need to set up a workout where you do high reps and decent weight, what that will do is get you cut while gaining size.you dont need to be on the water cleanse..drink a little more than a gallon a day. IF YOU WANT A WORKOUT PROGRAM LET ME KNOW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fulloboost
    im hearing a whole bunch of bull**** so far. I am studying exersice physiology and have been working out for around 4 years. At your weight and height you need to start weight training and eating healthy food..lots of carbs and protein b4 workout and lots of protein after..drink a protein shake b4 u go to sleep also..you need to set up a workout where you do high reps and decent weight, what that will do is get you cut while gaining size.you dont need to be on the water cleanse..drink a little more than a gallon a day. IF YOU WANT A WORKOUT PROGRAM LET ME KNOW.
    Good to know that my profession was just cut down to "bullsh*t". Glad your "studying" exercise physiology...But before you cut someone down...read the whole tread douche waffle. Your right about what you said, but you can't give a true assessment unless the person is standing in front of you. So before you act like you know wtf your talking about, read first

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    also G.C says do a lot of pushups everyday..WRONG each muscle that you workout needs at least 72 hours of rest between workouts..not tryin to call anyone out but i have decent knowledge about working out
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    fulloboost, i also live in suwanee...im drinking 70oz of water...i eat a small breakfast and then once at 8PM, and maybe a little snack later, like a bowl of granola cereal with almost 4g protein...and usually chicken for the meal...then i just look on the label of everything to get the right nutrients.

    but i think im pissing out everything

    im doing the water cleanse mainly for my skin as it got really dry and i started breaking out...and its working so far

    its i see a major difference in my midsection by doing it also...from what i have read, you can lose almost 5-10 pounds of fat and waste...thats when i will probably start getting outlined...then all i need to do is workout to get cut

    i havent touched any sweets or saturated fats, anything unhealthy basically...
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    everyone's body is different. you have to find what works for you. i'm 6'5 and 230 pounds. pretty solid to. i was cell-tech and nitro-tech for about a year and a half. 3 months on, 3 months off.

    built up matabalism and alot more protien.

    did this when i got out of high school 2 years ago. i was 185 when i started out. ended up at 220 and was ripped cuz i stayed at it.

    now i need to tone up and get back in the gym.

    good luck man. i know how hard it was to build some muscle with me being tall and all.
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    yea, i mean i been just doing 10 push ups , 10 sit ups and 10 crunches , and i can feel those...so..either i have been extremely lazy ass neglectful to my body or its just alot more affective right now.

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    lol YOU ARE NOT 6 FEET TALL LOL

    but why dont you tell these guys who are trying to help you that you smoke? lol

    you gotta quit that before you try anything dude.... thats the main reason why I dont work out lol.. that and the fact that i'm lazy....

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    i am most certain i am 6''...5'11 at the LEAST

    and im good on the quitting bro, cigarettes dont affect me like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benefit
    i am most certain i am 6''...5'11 at the LEAST

    and im good on the quitting bro, cigarettes dont affect me like that
    ****, I smoke like a fiend and I run like 3 miles a day. But I don't smoke cigarettes lol
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    Ive tried the 300 work out, and kicked my ass. I am 5'9'' 215lbs getting to the point of where I want to be. I am all over the gym, and it's hard to describe what my work outs could be called...LOL But I joined up almost 3 months ago, started benching 250, and now I am up to 315lbs I have always been wicked strong, and if you don't believe me let's go to the gym. I am using Goat Whey, and drinking about 125oz of water a day...cut out all junk food, and sodas. Mind you this as well, when I started out, I weighed 243...I did lots of cardio (running 2 miles a day) to loose most of the fat, and then started at the gym to bulk, and tone.

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    yea...**** im not even working out and im getting a tighter stomach everyday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benefit
    yea...**** im not even working out and im getting a tighter stomach everyday
    Yeah I didnt do abs when I started as you can see in that pic, but now, I have the outline of a 4pack....i do abs everyday, and run atleast 1-2 miles a day.
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    yea stamina is goood

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    benefit. why don't you post up a pic (not gay) so we can see what you are starting with. that way advice can have some depth to it.

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    will do in a couple days

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