Which military branch?

[95alty]

--> As far as the ladies go --- tell you what, ask a grunt or Marine what branch has the nicest looking ladies overall (generally speaking). They will say 1) AF and 2) Navy. PERIOD. How do I know this? I've heard it a few hundred times from a few hundred grunts and Marines. Furthermore, there is nothing more wrong w/ "sticking your wang" in a military woman than there is a woman you meet at the mall. A high percentage of women in the military are smarter than you - I know this JUST by based on your post and I don't even know you.

--> There is no such thing as a "combat" MOS. EVERY job in ANY branch of the military can place you in harms way... whether you serve food or carry a rifle. You are either literally fighting or literally supporting the fight.

--> You're obv no better than a Jr. in high school as well. Don't take a thread in a direction that it doesn't need to go in.

hell ya... i dont care what anyone says... those air force girls are FREAKS!!! best looking girls in the service... marines---- EWWW, army- Baby Mama Drama--- navy- MANLY----- air force--- THATS WHERE ITS AT !

thanks for calling out the grunts baby j

[mitch lab]

Getting your degree first allows you to get a commission in the military which in turn has much better opportunities, pay, and also better jobs.(well at at least for me because i want to be a pilot and in order to be a pilot you have to be an officer.)

even tho you have a degree first dont mean they can go to ocs. Gotta have a 4 years degree, then they make you take a test to see if you even qualify. So having a degree doesn't mean you get to go to ocs.

[Motivation]

BTW... for the few of you that feel like this thread is to bash other military branches, you are wrong. So if you are looking to do so, gtfo or stfu... U.S.A. needs and benefits from all the branches. If one of them is out of the spectrum, everything changes.

[Dietcoke]

I'm in the Army, but the Air Force takes the best care of its troops, in and out of service. They also have the best facilities.

[BABY J]

how about I know what the f I am talking about, because it's in black in white for you to see aka military.com, goarmy.com, rpi's.

People are throwing out left and right about how AF pays more. Which is far from true. Your opinnion is going to be biased as you are AF. You know just as well as I on the 2008 Pay Scale which is not biased to any branch

Who the f*ck is "people"? Show me where I said that any branch pays more than another. My opinion is not an opinion - MY opinion is fact. I served. And I served alongside seaman, grunts, jar-heads and any other name you can come up with. The things I mentioned in this thread is the very things we stayed up in Saudi, Baghdad, D'jbouti, Cairo and the million other places I've been and discussed amongst each other. Another thing internet guy... the websites u speak of is marketing --- just like a recruiter. Keep believing everything you read on the internet -- in fact, that's what those sites are designed for - for you to THINK you know what you're getting into. Looks like the machine is working as advertised.

So no E-5 AF makes more than a E-5 in Navy, Marines, Army. Time in grade yes...but you put ANY same time in grade and rank, and they will make the same.

Keep talking and make yourself look stupid... you're proving my point perfectly. I was aircrew - I got flight-pay. If you were not aircrew you didn't get that. That's just ONE example of MANY how the same grade in the same service (or difference services) can make different pay. You still wanna argue or are you gonna shut what they call the f*ck up while you are behind?

There ARE COMBAT MOS's and SUPPORT MOS'S in the ARMY and MARINES. AF and Navy, there are as well....Combat Controller, PJ's, Seal's, etc. For example, in the ARMY. If you choose a support MOS that is open to all genders....most cases you will goto Ft Jackson for basic training. IF you are COMBAT MOS such as Infantry/CAV/Combat Engineer you will head to FT Benning which is a more oriented towards Combat MOS's.

Once again - propaganda. When you have personal friends that are COOKS, SECRETARIES, FINANCE TROOPS, PEST CONTROL come home in body bags while you have other personal friends that are f*ckin INFANTRY and Spec Ops come home w/out a scratch, THEN you tell me that there is a difference between a combat and a support MOS. The only difference is on paper. I hope you go in the Army as a cook and I hope you believe the recruiter when he tells you that you will be fine b/c you have a measly "support" MOS. Keep talking Sherlock.

I'm sorry that you can't find a woman outside the military because, theres plenty of them that are hotter and smarter.

LMAO!! You OBVIOUSLY have no clue who you are talking to. I get more pu$$y on accident than you get on purpose. And nothing you say/do will change that. That was the case when I was in the military, and that's the case today. I always wondered why I saw those frogs down by the swamp w/ your ugly a$s face on it --- it's from all the sperm you send down the drain in the shower.

Everyone can think what they like and be biased and such because everyone has a brother,mother,cousin,sister,uncle that was in the military. Do your own research, because it's out there. All over the internet.

Holy sh*t yoo arrr a jeanious!! Do my own RESEARCH?? LMAO!! Yeah - "it's on the internet" - LOL!! I served kid --- I don't need to research on the internet. That's your job.

Baby J, I suggest you do more research....because your trying to "regulate" on me but you don't even have a leg to stand on because of what you heard from a few hundred marines and navy seamen...please. So 1........f'in relax before you try and regulate on things you obviously know nothing about except AF.

I'm not even gonna pick you apart. Just think a lil bit b4 u try to regulate on people who were just offering their view (even tho he was wrong about a few things). B/c you ended up being wrong about more.

[BABY J]

What do I know? Nothing at all. You win -- everything I said I found on the internet.

[tony]

he was referring to officers being payed more than enlisted. and also look at years of service compared between the 2, year for year and advancement for advancement and officer will always make more than enlisted.

Thanks, I don't think he even read my post. As you said.. I stated that officers are paid more than enlisted.. not one branch making more than the other.

I got a good idea of the contrast between the Army and Air Force since I grew up on Elmendorf AFB and Ft. Richardson is right next to the base. I cannot say one is better than the other since it really depends on the individual, my cousin did extremely well in the army (as an officer) and is now the VP of a fortune 500 company and I believe it has a lot to do with his service, from my understanding it is easier to gain rank in the Army as well. The Air Force is trying to cut their force down so it may be harder to get in.

[BABY J]

^^ Very well said Tony. It is also easier to lose rank the Army as well.

[95alty]

its the easiest to gain rank in the marine corps... all you have to do is get combat... my cousin is a 17month NCO... its crazy... we have 22 year old e-6s all due to combat time... we are combat oriented so thats how we get our rank...

[Spektrewing386]

kind of looks like Denzel Washington.


anyway.. my grandpa's brother was a F-100 fighter pilot.. grandpa was on some navy ships. and great grandpa in the army!

im going air force.

[yeaiwonder88]

its the easiest to gain rank in the marine corps... all you have to do is get combat... my cousin is a 17month NCO... its crazy... we have 22 year old e-6s all due to combat time... we are combat oriented so thats how we get our rank...

e-1/e-5 combat service has nothing to do with picking up in the Corps....And if i remember correctly MCI, PFT, RIFLE RANGE, PROS CONS, help you pick up CPL. And its BASED OFF YOUR MOS!!! some have harder time picking up if there mos is closed or open....I mean I wouldnt know i just got back 2.5 weeks ago so IDK...

[CopyRight]

hey baby j nuts.

I am in the Army. My second re-enlistment actually.

Calling me a kid? ha....good one.


Of fvcking course you got flight pay dumbass! you're AIRFORCE. You don't get SDAP or Drill SGT pay do you?! Why? because you are neither. READ WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU. EACH BRANCH HAS THEIR OWN SPECIFIC SPECIAL EXTRA DUTY PAY. Do you get submarine pay? no. That doesn't mean they get paid more.

BASE PAY is the SAME for everyone. AGAIN, only difference in each branch is their special pay....not everyone in the AF gets flight pay, do they?


You want to know why cooks, carpenters and truck drivers are getting hit? Because our enemy has "intel" as well and do understand the fact that hitting non combat mos's are easier targets than an infantry or tank formation. Why do you think the Army has re-vamped the whole basic training schedule? Everyone learns convoy live fire now...everyone learns how to take down and clear a room. 8 years ago, that was only combat mos specific.

I've been in country, I've been in,around, all over the Sunni Triangle.....where I am quite sure you never have been....you've been where? Kuwait? Baghdad?

I've also been to Bosnia and Dijibouti for peace keeping missions.

I wasn't ordered to go anywhere, I VOLUNTEERED for every deployment I have ever been on. I've been in plenty of units because I wanted to go places and learn new things, not just stuck in an Infantry or MI Bn. So I've been in support units and first line units.


If you think the govt is such a propaganda war machine and everyone is out to lie to you....then why are you even here? Apparently America is so bad and President Bush is the devil. I bet you are probably voting for Obama like the rest of the liberal sheep who believes his crap on "change"....what's gonna happen? He's gonna get in office and do what the hell he wants...because he suckered everyone just like everyone else does to get into office.

You can call me names all day...I'm not the slightest bit mad or offended...I thank you for your service, because all branches are essential...but I strongly believe in military service for all our young people...hell, I want it to be mandatory for at least 2 years, but it won't happen and my fellow brothers will continue to die for people who abuse their rights and freedoms that people in the military protect.

I want everyone to be informed. Conspiracy theories are just that....theories. Every branch has a website which gives you pay scales, jobs, etc. Military.com covers it all.....and it seems to me they have more AF related stuff pic/vids than any other branch....I don't see how that website is made to lie to anyone.

[95alty]

e-1/e-5 combat service has nothing to do with picking up in the Corps....And if i remember correctly MCI, PFT, RIFLE RANGE, PROS CONS, help you pick up CPL. And its BASED OFF YOUR MOS!!! some have harder time picking up if there mos is closed or open....I mean I wouldnt know i just got back 2.5 weeks ago so IDK...

Your right... but combat always helps... my pft stays steady between 280-295, rifle is expert, and my fitreps are usually 4s and a few 5s... but your right... i apologize for not telling the army and airforce kids... plus what do they know about a real pft?

[SixSquared]

Air Force... I only say that cause I'm *ahem* good friends with a girl in the Air Force so I know more about it than any of the other branches.

And Air Force girls... holy... HELL...

[Spektrewing386]

yeah, they dont get sand in their vagina like the other girls (literaly)

[jumpin800agl]

This thread is honestly one of the worst military threads I have read. Most of the people posting have horrible information.

[The12lber]

You can call me names all day...I'm not the slightest bit mad or offended...I thank you for your service, because all branches are essential...but I strongly believe in military service for all our young people...hell, I want it to be mandatory for at least 2 years, but it won't happen and my fellow brothers will continue to die for people who abuse their rights and freedoms that people in the military protect.

You mentioned your service in Iraq.

No Americans who died in Iraq died defending America's sovereignty, the safety of our nation's people or anyone's rights but the Iraqi's. If you disagree you're welcome to it but it would be best that you explained this - considering there were no Weapons of Mass destruction in Iraq for some years and Saddam Hussein's secular government never played host to any Islamic extremist movements such as A.Q. and Saddam/Osama were enemies (the alternative rhetoric back in the day - 2002/2003 - was that if WMDs weren't good enough for you, there's terrorists too!).

If the military, you know, was exclusively about defending ourselves then you could make a logical argument for compulsory military service. But when the military is being used to service special interests, not so much.

Don't get me wrong, your service is admirable, but the notion that Americans should be forced into combat to preserve interests that are not their own is kind of offensive.

As a side note, I don't know, but it seems unlikely to me that you understand enough about politics to throw around the word "liberal" like that in and of itself is derogatory.

[FasTech]

Well, got to go with the army..... #1. Army pays more, knowing this because I have three friend in the military, one's in the army, one's in the navy, and the other is in the air force. I also have a cousin in the marines. #2. They offer more jobs..... I back my answer, because I plan to join the army in about 9 months... So I have checked everthing within all the branches

[soul]

i have friends in family in all service but i prefer army, brother has the best stories lol, he is exranger,specops, did a little delta and currently works/contracts for Triple Canopy,

[Schugg]

Navy and Air Force both have technological advantages and will serve you better for when you get out. Still, some of us didn't join to sit behind a desk and play Command & Conquer. We actually wanted to be in the fire.

im in the airforce, do you know what you are talking about? i dont think so, yeah alot of it is desk jobs, but i dont see why no one wants to recognize that the airforce still has all the other jobs that people find other services so admirable for and recognize them for. we have all the "hardass" jobs whatever you want to call them that every other services positions for, but people only seem to see that we also have desk jobs, and think thats all we are. sure all the services are going to always talk **** about each other, but we still have all the other jobs people join other services for.

[Schugg]

Well, got to go with the army..... #1. Army pays more, knowing this because I have three friend in the military, one's in the army, one's in the navy, and the other is in the air force. I also have a cousin in the marines. #2. They offer more jobs..... I back my answer, because I plan to join the army in about 9 months... So I have checked everthing within all the branches

i thought basic pay was the same for all services, only differences is in special pays. im guessing that high ass enlistment bonus sucked you in

[Schugg]

Thanks, I don't think he even read my post. As you said.. I stated that officers are paid more than enlisted.. not one branch making more than the other.

I got a good idea of the contrast between the Army and Air Force since I grew up on Elmendorf AFB and Ft. Richardson is right next to the base. I cannot say one is better than the other since it really depends on the individual, my cousin did extremely well in the army (as an officer) and is now the VP of a fortune 500 company and I believe it has a lot to do with his service, from my understanding it is easier to gain rank in the Army as well. The Air Force is trying to cut their force down so it may be harder to get in.

yeah people are getting kicked out of the airforce left and right. one girl i went through BMT and tech school with just got out/wanted out and said she was gay, next day she was gone. we have another kid who i personally think is mentally challenged and he is getting kicked out cause he is stupid/off in the head

[ussredcrown]

id say go with the navy, they garuntee your job and under no circumstances can they change it without your consent (marines, army, and airforce all have stipulations in thier contract saying that if your mos is full and needs noone else the branch may then choose your job.) also, base pay is not better in the army, at that, army really doesnt have that much going for them, marines would be my second choice, mainly because marines get more respect then any other branch, so marines or navy, its a tossup, you either want glory or education


(real quick edit: im not insulting the army, they're just as needed as any other branch, but being in the navy, and im sure others in their own branches will agree, your officers and everyone else kinda force ya to believe that your branch is superior)

[ussredcrown]

I don't know the specifics but I do know with a degree you go in as an Commissioned Officer rather than enlisted.. it opens up a lot of doors for you in the Air Force.

Lets just put it this way, my dad spent 23 years in the Air Force.. he entered without a degree and he made me promise if I was to ever join the Military that I would obtain a college education first. At the end of his service, even with his rank he had to take orders from new Commissioned Officers fresh out of college.

The pay is higher as well.. of course.

navy offers a program called seaman to admiral, which allows new recruits who excell in a school and show community service to attend college completly free for 4 years, with navy pay of your mos, and no shore duty, and once you recieve your degree you becom an NCO.....i believe that all branches have a program like this, the armed services can make you a rich mother****er, you just have to know how to use it right and not go become a manican they controll

[soul]

id say go with the navy, they garuntee your job and under no circumstances can they change it without your consent (marines, army, and airforce all have stipulations in thier contract saying that if your mos is full and needs noone else the branch may then choose your job.) also, base pay is not better in the army, at that, army really doesnt have that much going for them, marines would be my second choice, mainly because marines get more respect then any other branch, so marines or navy, its a tossup, you either want glory or education


(real quick edit: im not insulting the army, they're just as needed as any other branch, but being in the navy, and im sure others in their own branches will agree, your officers and everyone else kinda force ya to believe that your branch is superior)

i was agreeing with all that till u got to the marine part, and said cause they get more respect

[95alty]

Well, got to go with the army..... #1. Army pays more, knowing this because I have three friend in the military, one's in the army, one's in the navy, and the other is in the air force. I also have a cousin in the marines. #2. They offer more jobs..... I back my answer, because I plan to join the army in about 9 months... So I have checked everthing within all the branches

My sig is proof the army doesnt "PAY MORE".... everyone gets paid the same... e1-e9 , 01-010... its the incentives of flight pay, hazard pay, jump pay, etc... that come into play... im an e2 making more than e4s

[ussredcrown]

well, its not that they deserve the extra respect, but if you took a member of each branch in their uniforms to a public place, each one saying what branch they represented, the marine would normally pull more of a crowd, but i believe that a marine is no more special then an army grunt, they both do the same job, and both are expected to uphold the same codes.

[burnout1990]

We all take the same oath of enlistment....we all choose are own paths... the "my branch is better than your branch because" **** is getting old. We enlisted for some reason no matter what it was...

[soul]

My sig is proof the army doesnt "PAY MORE".... everyone gets paid the same... e1-e9 , 01-010... its the incentives of flight pay, hazard pay, jump pay, etc... that come into play... im an e2 making more than e4s

whats your sig have to do with nething? i know people that work at mcdonalds that drive the same car.... so your not saying much, bad awy to prove your point....

[khaxnguyen]

Army National Guard. After training you only have to go to drill duties once a month for one weekend. you can go to shcool and they'll pay for college. good deal! you can live in GA too!

[soul]

Army National Guard. After training you only have to go to drill duties once a month for one weekend. you can go to shcool and they'll pay for college. good deal! you can live in GA too!

yup, get a easy paycheck/school paid for cant complain, and runa very low % of actually getting called n for nething

[Truegiant]

I spent the time reading through most of the comments in here. From what I can gather almost all of these comments are coming from people who have never served. All branches serve a purpose. The "mines better than yours" doesnt really apply unless your talking about job specific percs or benefits. I can tell you first hand that even though the air force doesnt have an infantry force they still get all the newest latest and greatest tactical gear. Just coming back from a deployment I can tell you my MOS (military occupational specialty) pride kicks in and I will tell you I love the army. I can also tell you I hate the army. Its a large enough force that if your not a ****bag you can pretty much pick and choose where you want to go and to what job you want. Alot of the jobs in the army are based on asvab scores and the like. If your not a dumbass you can do whatever you want! YES! YOU CAN! All you have to do is tell the MEPS personal that if they dont give you the job you wont enlist. Trust me.. thats what i did. They need you more than you think. At times your going to do things you dont want to do but thats part of the job. I am leaving for selections (Special Forces Selections) in a couple of months and am looking forward to getting the crap smoked out of me for long durations of time. The air force personel that had to deploy to iraq that I met only had to do three month tours and they lived in the nicest barracks i had ever seen. Their barracks are better than my joes barracks here at stewart. Anywho.. but its like someone prior mentioned, some of us did not join to play "war games" on the computer behind a desk.

But I will be the first and not the last to tell you, if your not in now or have served in the past, please do not give mis-guided info to other potential applicants that are interested in joining. I will tell you that I do not get paid the best , but getting up everyday and putting on the uniform and representing the flag and my country does make me feel a little proud. And i get to yell at dirty privates.. that never gets old!

[soul]

I spent the time reading through most of the comments in here. From what I can gather almost all of these comments are coming from people who have never served. All branches serve a purpose. The "mines better than yours" doesnt really apply unless your talking about job specific percs or benefits. I can tell you first hand that even though the air force doesnt have an infantry force they still get all the newest latest and greatest tactical gear. Just coming back from a deployment I can tell you my MOS (military occupational specialty) pride kicks in and I will tell you I love the army. I can also tell you I hate the army. Its a large enough force that if your not a ****bag you can pretty much pick and choose where you want to go and to what job you want. Alot of the jobs in the army are based on asvab scores and the like. If your not a dumbass you can do whatever you want! YES! YOU CAN! All you have to do is tell the MEPS personal that if they dont give you the job you wont enlist. Trust me.. thats what i did. They need you more than you think. At times your going to do things you dont want to do but thats part of the job. I am leaving for selections (Special Forces Selections) in a couple of months and am looking forward to getting the crap smoked out of me for long durations of time. The air force personel that had to deploy to iraq that I met only had to do three month tours and they lived in the nicest barracks i had ever seen. Their barracks are better than my joes barracks here at stewart. Anywho.. but its like someone prior mentioned, some of us did not join to play "war games" on the computer behind a desk.

But I will be the first and not the last to tell you, if your not in now or have served in the past, please do not give mis-guided info to other potential applicants that are interested in joining. I will tell you that I do not get paid the best , but getting up everyday and putting on the uniform and representing the flag and my country does make me feel a little proud. And i get to yell at dirty privates.. that never gets old!

you forgot raping and pillidging that the funnest part........ lol j/k

[Truegiant]

Your right... but combat always helps... my pft stays steady between 280-295, rifle is expert, and my fitreps are usually 4s and a few 5s... but your right... i apologize for not telling the army and airforce kids... plus what do they know about a real pft?

hahahahahahahahahaha.... you guys do crunch's... and pull ups... wow.. those are real hard!!!! I wish they would change our run to a three mile though. that would help those of us in shape out!

[Z33_kid]

id say airforce i believe u can learn a few things that help when your out of it plus u get paid more

[soul]

id say airforce i believe u can learn a few things that help when your out of it plus u get paid more

holy f.cuk have you read ne f.ucking thing in this thread?

[jumpin800agl]

I was going to make a long post explaining some stuff about the Army from a Recruiter's knowledge but now I am not. . . it's too much effort for a Sunday.

[soul]

I was going to make a long post explaining some stuff about the Army from a Recruiter's knowledge but now I am not. . . it's too much effort for a Sunday.

are you a recruiter or from "your" recruiter? either way, im sorry, but recruiters are full of **** 95% of time

[Truegiant]

the only thing that wasnt a lie that came out of my recruiters mouth was, the fact that the only two things i would want when i graduated basic was a cold beer and some pusssy. and that was spot on!

[95alty]

I was lied to... soul have you served? or you heard things... truthfully, i feel that my service is great... but it has its bad sides... everyones does... or it wouldnt be the military...air force has the money... we know that... navy has some money too... army... too many good soldiers and more dirtbags... marines... well we are the most respected in the public eye... but we also have dirtbags... thats life...

And soul... find me a picture of someone at mcdonalds whipping my car and ill believe you