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    Alright...first of all, i dont want to seem like a crazy us hater. i love bein in the US and all its freedoms that we have or think we have. But the more and more i read, and learn about things that have happened in the past. And the things, that are happening now with our government, and how americans let so much stuff go without being questioned its crazy and scary. There are sooooooo many unanswered questions about 9/11. And this whole North American Union, and One government plan, sounds a little far fetched for the near future. But the more you think about what they are tryin to do, and what they are actually doing. It actually makes sense. And how much of an affect the media has on how we all think, and how we rather listen to what they say on the news rather than investigate the true facts ourselves. Im guilty of this myself, but now i have found myself questioning everything.....even.. religion.. a little. Growing up so long and believing one thing so long and slowly finding holes and less facts about something is scary to me. I have almost lost hope in the government and feel like its a lost cause..as it is... i mean if such a big event like 9/11 was able to happen and the falling of the towers etc, was never questioned, and still hasnt been very much as far as the physics of the whole situation with all 3 crashes. Than they can pretty much get away with everything.. I am waiting to see what happens with the ID cards..that are said to be released and fully functional by the end of the year. And I can see the whole North American Union plan almost being done simply by using the illegal immigrant issue as a stepping stone to achieve it...

    thats my rant/outlook.....

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    A more direct question would be, are you retarded or not?

    You'd have to be to trust the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The12lber
    A more direct question would be, are you retarded or not?

    You'd have to be to trust the government.
    im starting to agree..

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    Quote Originally Posted by The12lber
    A more direct question would be, are you retarded or not?

    You'd have to be to trust the government.
    At the same time you'd have to be retarded to think it's as simple as trusting or distrusting.

    No government is a white/black organization. Rules have to be bent and even ignored to ensure prosperity in the long run, even if people ***** and moan about the short-term effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    At the same time you'd have to be retarded to think it's as simple as trusting or distrusting.

    No government is a white/black organization. Rules have to be bent and even ignored to ensure prosperity in the long run, even if people ***** and moan about the short-term effects.
    It is pretty simple. Does the Government routinely act against our interests subversively? Yes - Does it often act in in our interests? Yes - Often, in acting in our interests, does the Government do amazingly distasteful things that cause more problems in the long run? Absolutely

    If it doesn't always do the second, you don't view the government's actions, motivations and statements without skepticism. THAT'S WHAT TRUST IS AND IT IS A VERY SIMPLE CONCEPT.

    If you honestly think that the rules are usually "bent and ignored" in an (I assume you think) somewhat tasteful manner in order to serve the interests of typical U.S. citizens you're retarded.

    Yes, that's right, I turned that one back around on you because you were so clever in trying to do it to me. zzzz

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    Quote Originally Posted by The12lber
    It is pretty simple. Does the Government routinely act against our interests subversively? Yes Does it often act in in our interests? Yes

    If it doesn't always do the second, you don't view the government without skepticism. THAT'S WHAT TRUST IS AND IT IS A VERY SIMPLE CONCEPT.

    If you honestly think that the rules are only "bent and ignored" in an (I assume you think) somewhat tasteful manner you're retarded.

    Yes, that's right, I turned that one back around on you because you were so clever in trying to do it to me. zzzz

    LOL, whatever kid. You assume you can run the government better, that says enough in itself. YOU DONT KNOW **** ABOUT RUNNING A COUNTRY. YOU PROBABLY ARENT EVEN OUT OF HIGHSCHOOL YET. But I can't be mad at you, everyone goes through a phase where they think they know everything. You'll grow out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    LOL, whatever kid. You assume you can run the government better, that says enough in itself. YOU DONT KNOW **** ABOUT RUNNING A COUNTRY. YOU PROBABLY ARENT EVEN OUT OF HIGHSCHOOL YET. But I can't be mad at you, everyone goes through a phase where they think they know everything. You'll grow out of it.

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    Oh, my mistake. I don't know **** about mistakes we've made in foreign or domestic policy past and present because you don't like me. You've made your point well.

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    lol bending the rules?

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    it blows my mind on how much money is spent on our military..

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    Why don't you try to throw that info at an economist or political science major (my roommate is one and he already got a good laugh out of this)? Your bias is evidence enough of your immaturity and your inability to do your own research (watching the news and reading the WSJ is not research). What's even funnier is you probably don't even recognize your bias.

    I'm done debating with uneducated fools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    Why don't you try to throw that info at an economist or political science major (my roommate is one and he already got a good laugh out of this)? Your bias is evidence enough of your immaturity and your inability to do your own research (watching the news and reading the WSJ is not research). What's even funnier is you probably don't even recognize your bias.

    I'm done debating with uneducated fools.

    i really really want to know what ur roommate has to say..PLEASE...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    Why don't you try to throw that info at an economist or political science major (my roommate is one and he already got a good laugh out of this)? Your bias is evidence enough of your immaturity and your inability to do your own research (watching the news and reading the WSJ is not research). What's even funnier is you probably don't even recognize your bias.

    I'm done debating with uneducated fools.

    YOU DID NOT DO ANY DEBATING ****TARD.
    Fortunately I'm an econ major with a minor in PolSci. Notice you didn't debunk my statement, you just said "LOL UR WRONG" and insulted me, which is basically the only thing you EVER do. I'm surprised you actually replied this time though, in the other thread when I pointed out that regardless of what a few academics say that the factors influencing your SAT scores are too numerous and complex for you to derive IQ reliably from it you just stopped replying.

    As always though, nothing of any substance, just a basic statement without any facts and some insults. (The difference here is, at least I've given myself some foundation with which to say this, unlike yourself). If I'm such an uneducated fool you should be able to shoot holes in my argument no problem. You are a ****ing moron with a chip on your shoulder because you're in a decent school.

    Edit: No reply, lawl, what a joke. Not backing yourself up on the internet represents the depths of cowardice.
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    ^F*cking awesome post.

    reps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deke

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    Negative, just written now.

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