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    Default IF Obama...

    Wins and is our president...

    would it help or hurt racism? not only against blacks, but everyone white/black/asian/hispanic etc....








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    "White people like Obama because he makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SE-Rious1
    "White people like Obama because he makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X."


    i very much disagree with that


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    Same with Hillary if whoever wins the election and becomes President.....If they do absolutly good then it wont matter but if they slip and make a mistake that the American people dont like thats when the rasict or sexist comments come.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Terrance
    Same with Hillary if whoever wins the election and becomes President.....If they do absolutely good then it wont matter. but if they slip and make a mistake that the American people dont like, that's when the racist or sexist comments come.......
    ~spell checked~ but your opinion is mine...



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    isnt obama muslim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by northsydedc
    isnt obama muslim?
    no, where would you get an idea like that
    *COUGH* FOX NEWS *COUGH*

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    Quote Originally Posted by northsydedc
    isnt obama muslim?
    muslim is a religion, not a race


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    Quote Originally Posted by northsydedc
    isnt obama muslim?
    does it matter?

    this country is made up of people from all walks of life, religions, and races.
    yet all of the presidents have been of one race. don't get me wrong, as long as they performed with the best INTEREST of the american people, and as the figurehead of america, to the world, i have had no problem with that.

    but i dont care if we had an indian president, who worships krishna. so long as he does a good job for american people, who put him in office, and in representing america to the world.



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    I think it will be great for race relations, and give Blacks and other minorities (national) another role model (he should be considered one now, as with NUMEROUS other blacks in politics). Im glad we are finally to this point on our country. But....

    This is 2008 people, there is no large white supremists group anymore. The klan everyone likes to throw in all other whites faces all the time is essentially no more. There are more black "supremists" now by far that want special treatment for thier race. How many white marches have you seen in recent history? How many black? The government gives special treatment to minorities, which should have never happened. As long as any race gets special treatment IN ANY FORM there will be rampant racism.

    Racism is not just whites hating blacks, its also blacks hating whites (and other minorities of course). Blacks get away with more than whites now, which will have to change to eliminate racism. What do you think Sharpton would say about white only awards? or about whites marching for a white that almost killed a black kid by beating? Or a white only scholarship? There has to be a happy medium, and there isn't. All races need to accept responsibility for our current race problems and stop looking to the past for which race is to blame. I HATE racists of any fashion, which is just ignorance to me.

    But to finish my answer, Obama will not help racism IMO. To do that he will have to remove government policy that gives special treatment to minorities and immigrants, but as mentioned by another "old schooler" like me on here, if that happens he will most likely be labelled as an Uncle Tom and considered a sale out.

    As long as we compare him to his prodecesor, he is bound to be a great president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StupidBikerBoy
    I think it will be great for race relations, and give Blacks and other minorities (national) another role model (he should be considered one now, as with NUMEROUS other blacks in politics). Im glad we are finally to this point on our country. But....

    This is 2008 people, there is no large white supremists group anymore. The klan everyone likes to throw in all other whites faces all the time is essentially no more. There are more black "supremists" now by far that want special treatment for thier race. How many white marches have you seen in recent history? How many black? The government gives special treatment to minorities, which should have never happened. As long as any race gets special treatment IN ANY FORM there will be rampant racism.

    Racism is not just whites hating blacks, its also blacks hating whites (and other minorities of course). Blacks get away with more than whites now, which will have to change to eliminate racism. What do you think Sharpton would say about white only awards? or about whites marching for a white that almost killed a black kid by beating? Or a white only scholarship? There has to be a happy medium, and there isn't. All races need to accept responsibility for our current race problems and stop looking to the past for which race is to blame. I HATE racists of any fashion, which is just ignorance to me.

    But to finish my answer, Obama will not help racism IMO. To do that he will have to remove government policy that gives special treatment to minorities and immigrants, but as mentioned by another "old schooler" like me on here, if that happens he will most likely be labelled as an Uncle Tom and considered a sale out.


    Agree 100% You said everything I would have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northsydedc
    isnt obama muslim?
    No his father was. As far as Not being behind a candidate because of not supporting welfare, Anyone that wants to live soley off of the Govt. should be cut off. They need to implement a Trade learning incentive for everyone on welfare with a cut off clause tied to completion of said program or a certain time period. Bluntly put, you have X amount of time to learn something to elevate you and your family or you are cut off A.S.A.P. The thing that kills me is that people still think that Its mainly Black people on welfare. We don't even make up that big a percentage of people in this county period.
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    I'm sure if he loses we will hear the ''He lost because he's black'' ****. But that's going to come anytime there is a race between races(lol), there are too many people in the US for some of them not to believe that's it.

    Bozzio for president.

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    I think its quite progressive as far as race relations go because it proves that whites as well as other races are able to look past the color of a persons skin. I'm already impressed by how far he has come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    I think its quite progressive as far as race relations go because it proves that whites as well as other races are able to look past the color of a persons skin. I'm already impressed by how far he has come.
    x2 but I personally think that the white supremacist people are not going to handle it well

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    wow noone can give a decent response..

    *edit; spoke too soon!

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    ^here ya go id rather have him then that b*tch hillary

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    I don't see your ungodly awesome answer. You made the question but have no opinion of your own? Fck you.

    Bozzio for president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revmaynard64
    I don't see your ungodly awesome answer. You made the question but have no opinion of your own? Fck you.

    lol wow... the point of asking a question like this for me, is to hear what other people think. i could give a hot **** what i think.. i want to hear others opinions.

    now read ur response and tell me if its even about what i asked?

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    Might I remind some that this isn't the "anything goes" whoreslounge so keep it civil please.

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    Ok, let me break my answer down a little. (sorry about that Tony)

    I see it as this, if there is racism it's no good, the only thing that is good for racism is there not being any. What would you say is a good quality of racism? So I don't know how it can hurt what's already here and bad enough. It might help because maybe some of the intolerant will realize that other races are just as equal and qualified for positions such as Presidency.

    Bozzio for president.

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    He'll win. He's got Hillary under a barrel. In a general election versus McCain, Obama is young, energetic, intelligent, eloquent and charismatic. McCain is old, grungy and in general an uncouth/coarse person. Who's going to win that?

    There's never been a prominent black authority figure in the U.S. besides Colin Powell - and he was only secretary of state. I'd say its a no brainer that it would go a long way towards creating a perception of greater racial integration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The12lber
    There's never been a prominent black authority figure in the U.S. besides Colin Powell - and he was only secretary of state.
    If I recall correctly, Colin Powell had considered running for president. When he did, the black community was right behind him until he said he was going to do away with welfare. At which point, they stopped supporting him and he just quit.

    I would have voted for Colin Powell in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ran
    If I recall correctly, Colin Powell had considered running for president. When he did, the black community was right behind him until he said he was going to do away with welfare. At which point, they stopped supporting him and he just quit.

    I would have voted for Colin Powell in a heartbeat.

    I was thinkig the same thing, Colin kicks ass. Although I would not have done away with welfare, but rather augmented the poilcies and provisions of it.

    Some people make simple bad decisions that put them in a financial bind, but try hard to do better and get back on their feet. Others ride the freaking welfare wave and are lazy as hell!

    It should be sort of like the HOPE scholarship, fall below a certain set of standards/goals/guidelines and take it away!

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    I believe it will not do too much at all for the racial issues we have in the U.S. Bigots will hate him whether he turns the economy around and ends poverty, or if he sits on his ass for 4 years. Non-bigots will either like him or dislike him based on his performance as President. I do think you will see a whole lot of hate towards him simply because he is black, whether people like to admit it or not.

    I also think he has a huge chance of being assassinated by some crazy ass right-wing militia group if he does get elected. You know the type, the ones that insist on having .50 cal sniper rifles and automatic weapons to protect their homes and families.


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    i dont see it helping racism...i see obama getting assainated if he wins though..the white supremacy wont like that sh*t at all...period



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    Quote Originally Posted by phatboislim
    i dont see it helping racism...i see obama getting assainated if he wins though..the white supremacy wont like that sh*t at all...period

    now im glad im not the only one lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
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    would it help or hurt racism? not only against blacks, but everyone white/black/asian/hispanic etc....








    (this is only if...we dont care who u are voting for just answer)
    Will it hurt or help. hmmm

    I think the country is ready for a black president, i dont think it will do anything. Obama (even though i would never vote for him) is intelligent, articulate, and definetly a good speaker and can gather support.

    To be honest, im a republican, and i wont vote because i cant stand any of the candidates. Obama an hillary are so far left and mcain is so far right, none of them excite me.

    on the subject of racism, i think it would actually help the black community to have a REAL figure to look up to. That is if they dont bastardize him like they did condoleeza rice. I wont care if a Black man is president, as long as he does a GOOD JOB.

    Racism wont happen unless people make an issue out of it. If this becomes the "we finally got our guy in" then we are in trouble.

    The problem is, can Obama win, and still keep the respect from the minorities (not just blacks). Or will he be categorized as an uncle tom or "selling out" if he doesnt keep it "real".

    I know that sounds harsh, but if you are older you know what im implying.

    If Obama wins, he has some pretty hard years ahead of him, a dwindling economy, housing market, recession, trade, racism, healthcare, etc. I think racism is last on the list of those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batlground
    The problem is, can Obama win, and still keep the respect from the minorities (not just blacks). Or will he be categorized as an uncle tom or "selling out" if he doesnt keep it "real".
    I think this is a very realistic question...I believe minorities will eventually lose respect for Obama. He is a very articulate, charismatic man, but he appeals to a very diverse group of people. He could lose support by trying to help the "wrong" minority in someone else's eyes. I would love to see a difference in the way our country is being governed, don't get me wrong (I voted for Hillary.) I was just trying to add some of my own insight!

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    I don't think what race he is matters.It more of what he is capable of.
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    i personally hope he doesnt win, for his own safety. im not racist, i just see it as we dont a first black president, because he will more than likely become the first black president.......assassinated. there are to many dumbass racist that will not accept it and im sure atleast one is willing to do something about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schugg
    i personally hope he doesnt win, for his own safety. im not racist, i just see it as we dont a first black president, because he will more than likely become the first black president.......assassinated. there are to many dumbass racist that will not accept it and im sure atleast one is willing to do something about it.

    I think by running he's already accepted the possibility of that.. it makes the step he has taken that much more admirable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    I think by running he's already accepted the possibility of that.. it makes the step he has taken that much more admirable.
    I agree.

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    I think it will be the same as it was if he wasn't the president, because i feel now race relations is prob as good as it going to get right now. There are too many bigots who live their life to be racist and teach their kids the same way and you find more than half of them are in trailer parks.


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    mccain maybe old and grungy but what president really hasnt. If you read his stories about him being a POW you'll see some moral values that are priceless.

    not voting because you don't like the list of candidates is useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPOOLIN
    mccain maybe old and grungy but what president really hasnt. If you read his stories about him being a POW you'll see some moral values that are priceless.

    not voting because you don't like the list of candidates is useless.
    Im well aware of mccain and his POW stories, and as a military brat, i respect him greatly.

    But he is pretty right wing, im more moderate.

    I personally think there are no candidates that really coincide with my views.

    I wont vote democrat, thats for sure, as a republican, unless someone else gains momentum, or mccain changes some of his views, im not really interested in either party.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SPOOLIN
    mccain maybe old and grungy but what president really hasnt. .
    Its time for a change...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPOOLIN
    mccain maybe old and grungy but what president really hasnt..
    Which president hasn't been old and grungy? Well, since Hoover...

    FDR
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    NIXON BELIEVE IT OR NOT
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    Basically, most of them. McCain is also kind of an r-tard and a bold faced liar.

    He went into a Baghdad market last year, and after returning from the city and witnessing no violence declared it safe on national T.V.

    McCain visited the market whilst wearing a helmet and bulletproof vest. He was accompanied by 100 troops, 4 Humvees, 2 Apache Gunships and 4 Blackhawk helicopters.

    I'm sorry, but even an insurgent on crack wouldn't make a move with that kind of firepower rolling around. McCain is a liar and more over retarded for thinking anyone would believe him.

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