Religion vs Ghosts/Demons

[Blitanicle99]

So story in a nut shell, I like to explore haunted places. Places that I am absolutely sure are haunted, I have seen ****, heard ****, been touched got physically hurt going places, its kind of a hobby.

Anyways... I have a real religious friend. This person (who shall stay unnamed) is a Baptist Christain. According to the Bible, speaking the words of god will immediate rid evil spirts (ghosts/demons/spirits) away immediately.

Well, story in a nutshell more he wants to prove his faith. He wants to go on a really really bad night, the nights that I know if I go certain places I will be physically hurt. (Yes there are places like this) He then wants me to piss something off big and prove that his words of the Bible immediately ward off evil spirits. I told him that I would definatly accept Christianity into my life if that happens.

Aside from the "Theres no such thing as spirits/ghosts/demons whatever you wish to name them" comments, thoughts on why this could be a terrible idea?

I have been to church like 10 times in my life, I am not religious. I believe christianity is more possible because exorisms are only allowed to be done by catholic priests. I read a story about two rabbis attempting an exorism and the little kid that was possessed started laughing and then said in perfect latin something along the lines of "You have no power here, do you honestly think you are protected?" That kind of made me lean towards Christainity.

[Benefit]

research jinn's...in islam its true , demons as you call them...

[ISAtlanta300]

So story in a nut shell, I like to explore haunted places. Places that I am absolutely sure are haunted, I have seen ****, heard ****, been touched got physically hurt going places, its kind of a hobby.

Anyways... I have a real religious friend. This person (who shall stay unnamed) is a Baptist Christain. According to the Bible, speaking the words of god will immediate rid evil spirts (ghosts/demons/spirits) away immediately.

Well, story in a nutshell more he wants to prove his faith. He wants to go on a really really bad night, the nights that I know if I go certain places I will be physically hurt. (Yes there are places like this) He then wants me to piss something off big and prove that his words of the Bible immediately ward off evil spirits. I told him that I would definatly accept Christianity into my life if that happens.

Aside from the "Theres no such thing as spirits/ghosts/demons whatever you wish to name them" comments, thoughts on why this could be a terrible idea?

I have been to church like 10 times in my life, I am not religious. I believe christianity is more possible because exorisms are only allowed to be done by catholic priests. I read a story about two rabbis attempting an exorism and the little kid that was possessed started laughing and then said in perfect latin something along the lines of "You have no power here, do you honestly think you are protected?" That kind of made me lean towards Christainity.

Don't mess with things you don't understand.... just an advice.....

QD could probably give you the skinny on it...

[quickdodge®]

QD could probably give you the skinny on it...

Thanks for the shout out, lolol.

Blitanicle, I'm not calling you a liar but I have to strongly doubt your claims of "physical attacks." These are very rare, if ever proven true, and according to you, you have these often. When you say you absolutely know that a plcae is haunted, how do you absolutely know this? I have been an avid ghost hunter for 7 years and have never known for sure in advance that I will see/hear/feel anything, let alone know I will be physically harmed. There is NO WAY to know this in advance. I just don't really get your post. I think it's great that you are interested in this subject, but I just feel that you haven't done enough research on the hobby to really know the full deal. Later, QD.

[BKgen®]

you put spirits/ghosts/demons in one category, but i disagree. Ghosts don't exist IMO. I'm a Christian and I've a firm believer in the idea that once you're dead, you either go to Heaven or Hell... you don't remain here. I do believe there could be demons though... but not "stranded" spirits or people who "haven't crossed over". As far as the physical harm thing with your friend though, if his faith is strong enough yeah I believe he can't be touched by these spirits or whatever. On the other hand, if he's just jumping into it not taking it seriously....

[quickdodge®]

Ghosts don't exist IMO.

Heheh.

Not a diss laugh there. Later, QD.

[Blitanicle99]

Heheh.

Not a diss laugh there. Later, QD.

Hes one of them you love taking them somewhere and they get scared ****less in about 5 minutes and start freaking out. Hahahha

[BKgen®]

Hes one of them you love taking them somewhere and they get scared ****less in about 5 minutes and start freaking out. Hahahha

hey f*cktard i never said i didn't believe there were things creepy things out there that would most definitely scare the living sh*t out of me... i just said i don't believe they're ghosts. demons, yes. f*cking learn how to read.

[Blitanicle99]

hey f*cktard i never said i didn't believe there were things creepy things out there that would most definitely scare the living sh*t out of me... i just said i don't believe they're ghosts. demons, yes. f*cking learn how to read.

Chill out dude. My bad. And thats also why I did the ghosts/demons/spirits thing. I generally associate with things that scare the living **** out of me with demons. Ghosts not so much as with spirits. My grandfather died in my house and I swear I have seen him before or thought I heard him talking however I never got scared.

[YoTa_BoX]

I really believe there are Ghosts, spirits,Apparitions what ever you want to call them. I my self have seen one. Oh and QD i think you should take KDM on a ghost hunting trip make him a believer lol, you wont have to say a damn thing...just let them do all the work for ya lol.

I have a few ghost stories that have happened to me ....hearing them seeing them exe...

[Repost Squintz]

So story in a nut shell, I like to explore haunted places. Places that I am absolutely sure are haunted, I have seen ****, heard ****, been touched got physically hurt going places, its kind of a hobby.

Anyways... I have a real religious friend. This person (who shall stay unnamed) is a Baptist Christain. According to the Bible, speaking the words of god will immediate rid evil spirts (ghosts/demons/spirits) away immediately.

Well, story in a nutshell more he wants to prove his faith. He wants to go on a really really bad night, the nights that I know if I go certain places I will be physically hurt. (Yes there are places like this) He then wants me to piss something off big and prove that his words of the Bible immediately ward off evil spirits. I told him that I would definatly accept Christianity into my life if that happens.

Aside from the "Theres no such thing as spirits/ghosts/demons whatever you wish to name them" comments, thoughts on why this could be a terrible idea?

I have been to church like 10 times in my life, I am not religious. I believe christianity is more possible because exorisms are only allowed to be done by catholic priests. I read a story about two rabbis attempting an exorism and the little kid that was possessed started laughing and then said in perfect latin something along the lines of "You have no power here, do you honestly think you are protected?" That kind of made me lean towards Christainity.

sounds like a fun place..... hmmm ghost hunt anybody?

[Blitanicle99]

QD, I know we are not trying to start an arguement over whether I am full of it or not. Oh and you have a PM.
I am coming up on 3 years doing this and have definately had my fair share of adventure. We all know there are good nights and there are bad nights. Good meaning you happen to see alot and bad nights means you dont see crap and nothing seems to want to come out. And there are those occasional nights that **** seems to be alot worse and whatever you wish to call ghost/demons/spirits are without a doubt doing a hell of alot more than usual.

The nights that I have been physically hurt are those nights. I have walked away with scratches that bled and bruises. Now, these do not seem like huge wounds but I am postive that they were not there before and I seemed to notice them after I went to that place.

Now more over on what I was going with, I don't do much research on this on the internet and ****. I go more by experiance and a personal friend that got me into the hobby. I trust him completely on the issue, and hes kind of the person I go for questions and when I have questions on the issue.

Personally I think the whole using the Bible to ward of spirits is a terrible idea just from a personal point of view. I figured I would ask around if anyone had any other thoughts.

[Maniac1]

I just made a thread about religion acouple days ago, so im not going to get to into this one.

Your friend is a moron, plain and simple. I say you dress up as a demon one day. Find him alone and scare the hell out of him. I bet you he wouldn't even start saying things about god or jesus, lolol. Nah but seriously.

I don't know much about ghosts or anything super natural because I haven't had any in real life encounter with anything of that level. But I strongly doubt your friends words will have any affect, if, you do come across any type of super natural object.

Where the hell do you see these things anyways? Lolol I know you blaze so are you sure you're not high when you head to these places? You must be smoking some good sh!t to make you feel things. Lol

[Blitanicle99]

Maniac...
I would not go as far as a moron in general, but in this situation not too bright. Im somewhat willing to do it, and then again it seems like a horrible idea. I think it would probably just piss whatever is out there even more.
And places? Theres places all around GA that are known for being haunted if you wanna drive up this way sometime Ill take you there.
And hell no I dont blaze beforehand. God thats a bad idea lol. I think I would freak the fawk out haha

[GIXXERDK]

Maniac...
I would not go as far as a moron in general, but in this situation not too bright. Im somewhat willing to do it, and then again it seems like a horrible idea. I think it would probably just piss whatever is out there even more.
And places? Theres places all around GA that are known for being haunted if you wanna drive up this way sometime Ill take you there.
And hell no I dont blaze beforehand. God thats a bad idea lol. I think I would freak the fawk out haha

Let me go with you.

[BKgen®]

hell i'll go. where is this so called "haunted" place you go to?

[Blitanicle99]

Theres quite a few of them. Where I usually go is a place in Canton mainly because the majority of nights end up good. Maybe those interested would be willing to drive... However I really don't take over 4-5 people just as the more people you bring, the less **** seems to happen.

[GIXXERDK]

Theres quite a few of them. Where I usually go is a place in Canton mainly because the majority of nights end up good. Maybe those interested would be willing to drive... However I really don't take over 4-5 people just as the more people you bring, the less **** seems to happen.

Give me the address and I'll go myself

[NAG2I]

i believe in God and in jesus
and i also fully believe in demons
i've had personal accounts and very trustworthy friends accounts that make me sure of them
i also believe with the right faith you can shun them away in a certain way
its not easy though as i just made it sound

[Brick]

Theres quite a few of them. Where I usually go is a place in Canton mainly because the majority of nights end up good. Maybe those interested would be willing to drive... However I really don't take over 4-5 people just as the more people you bring, the less **** seems to happen.

Where in Canton? I have a little ghost hunting hobby and have been to everywhere I know of within ~1hr driving distance, nowhere seemed all that good.

[bu villain]

Theres quite a few of them. Where I usually go is a place in Canton mainly because the majority of nights end up good. Maybe those interested would be willing to drive... However I really don't take over 4-5 people just as the more people you bring, the less **** seems to happen.

I wonder why **** doesn't seem to happen when more people go? I guess ghosts hate groups huh? Know what they hate even more? Cameras!

[quickdodge®]

I wonder why **** doesn't seem to happen when more people go? I guess ghosts hate groups huh? Know what they hate even more? Cameras!

Wrong.

If in any way you're talking about me, we will have some problems.

Lolol @ problems. Having a problem with you is like having a problem getting my shoelaces tied. And I was referring to you.

none of us here has it in them to post up something with some actually knowledge on this subject, please, show us. What you have to say about it.

I have been doing this avidly for almost 8 years. Every weekend, going wherever I could. Learning what I can. Some people in here are on the right track with what they think they know, but not exact. I'm not a thorough expert, but to know what I have to say? I think my previous posts and my website spoke for me.

It might seem like I dont know about this, but I do.

You've got some of the theories down a bit, but reading a few things on the Net and going to a house and taking pictures isn't even half the "work" it takes to get better learned about this. Later, QD.

[Maniac1]

Lolol @ problems. Having a problem with you is like having a problem getting my shoelaces tied. And I was referring to you. Later, QD.

How could you callout my post as to not having knowledge when I said it myself I had none when it came to this subject?

[quickdodge®]

How could you callout my post as to not having knowledge when I said it myself I had none when it came to this subject?

Sorry. I mean to say I was NOT referring to you. Later, QD.

[SLOWLYbtngU]

I have seen weird! I mean WEEEEEEEIIIIIIRDDDD things in the Pentecostal church. I dont play around with demons and things that I do not understand. I am Christian and therefore do believe that nothing can be done unto me unless God permits. Just because you profess and call on Jesus for help does not guarantee you will survive or win some kinds of battles with the unknown creatures on this earth. That is like sayin, "I am going to do 100+ into this wall but I am going to call on Jesus right before impact and he will save me." Not saying that He cant save you, just more along the lines of why attempt it? I sound looney right now, but seriously... Why even do this? I have seen people levitate, foam at the mouth, speak latin fluently and have never studied it, I have seen people's eyes roll into the back of their heads and seen them cry blood...Not once did I think, "Sweeeeet" while it was happenning.

You can call me an idiot for having my beliefs or what not, but seriously. I wouldnt play with stuff like that. If you can get physically hurt...Babe those arent ghosts you're messing with. That is something else.

[GSRteg®]

So story in a nut shell, I like to explore haunted places. Places that I am absolutely sure are haunted, I have seen ****, heard ****, been touched got physically hurt going places, its kind of a hobby.

Anyways... I have a real religious friend. This person (who shall stay unnamed) is a Baptist Christain. According to the Bible, speaking the words of god will immediate rid evil spirts (ghosts/demons/spirits) away immediately.

Well, story in a nutshell more he wants to prove his faith. He wants to go on a really really bad night, the nights that I know if I go certain places I will be physically hurt. (Yes there are places like this) He then wants me to piss something off big and prove that his words of the Bible immediately ward off evil spirits. I told him that I would definatly accept Christianity into my life if that happens.

Aside from the "Theres no such thing as spirits/ghosts/demons whatever you wish to name them" comments, thoughts on why this could be a terrible idea?

I have been to church like 10 times in my life, I am not religious. I believe christianity is more possible because exorisms are only allowed to be done by catholic priests. I read a story about two rabbis attempting an exorism and the little kid that was possessed started laughing and then said in perfect latin something along the lines of "You have no power here, do you honestly think you are protected?" That kind of made me lean towards Christainity.

Interesting I might say... I have experienced things also, but never physically hurt though. As you say you know were ghost are hmmm... might agree, but remember spirits/ghost/demons/ect, they choose you not you choose them. They will show them selfs to you when there ready too. Btw I am catholic and firmly believe in this things.

[quickdodge®]

Interesting I might say... I have experienced things also, but never physically hurt though. As you say you know were ghost are hmmm... might agree, but remember spirits/ghost/demons/ect, they choose you not you choose them. They will show them selfs to you when there ready too. Btw I am catholic and firmly believe in this things.

Not a lot of knowledge in this post. Or in the whole thread. Later, QD.

[Maniac1]

Not a lot of knowledge in this post.

Lolol. After reading his post, I felt even more confused about this subject. The post didn't have any real point nor did it make sense. Sounded like something my 13 year old cousin would say... And sadly he's not a very bright little kid. Lol

Or in the whole thread. Later, QD.

If in any way you're talking about me, we will have some problems. I even said I didn't have much knowledge when it came to this topic. So if you think none of us here has it in them to post up something with some actually knowledge on this subject, please, show us. What you have to say about it. And it better be more than what you posted in page 1, that didn't prove much nor did it make much sense.

So please, continue...

[GSRteg®]

Not a lot of knowledge in this post. Or in the whole thread. Later, QD.

Knoweledge lol well It might seem like I dont know about this, but I do. As far as what Maniac said he believes not in this things or in God as he told me. So ofcourse he has nothing to say in this thread. There are things that cant be explained, even if studied for years. As you might know as you claim to be a ghost hunter part time. You of all people will know that ghost, spirits, demons, etc... are unpredictable and you never know when they will show themselfs, But I would love to go on one of your hunts QD to see what you find.... As I would like to go with the guy who started this post.

[blackDAHLIA]

Awesome thread. I believe, i have seen a ghost/spirit before. Every time i think about that incident i get goosebumps. It was in my buddies house where his Mom died. We think it was her. Me and one other person saw the same thing, it was the figure of a person standing 10 feet in front of us in a basement so it was dark. We thought it may have been someone standing in the room so i ran to get our dogs (pits) they searched the basement and found nothing.

I dont really have any beliefs in religion vs ghosts. I just know that they do exist and that tells me that there is something beyond life.

Anyone been watching that paranormal state show on disc. channel???

[Maniac1]

Knoweledge lol well It might seem like I dont know about this, but I do. As far as what Maniac said he believes not in this things or in God as he told me. So ofcourse he has nothing to say in this thread.

It's actually spelled like this,---> knowledge. Lolol. And yeah, you're right. I don't know much about this topic, nor do I believe in the almighty god that the current texts call the lord and savior. You're hispanic, right. Well like you and so many ignorant hispans, are so gullible when it comes to super natural events.

Don't you believe this the, gosh how do you say it in spanish? The crying lady, the one who drowned her babys and goeas around crying at night looking for kids? Or something along those lines? Lolol. I personally haven't seen anything out of the ordinary, but I too would like to go with this red neck truck driving hick on one of these ghost hunts.

[xlilvi3tx]

i believe in ghost and they personally scare the sh!t outta me lol

[Reaper]

I've had 1 experience with some kind of spirit/ghost or what have you...It freaked me the hell out. Honestly, I have never been more scared in my life. QD, Ill be pm'ing you about it, just to see what you think.

Have any of you ever been to the insane asylum near Millidgeville???

[Blitanicle99]

As I am terrible at quoting everyone and replying to everyone....

Knowledge of this stuff really cannot be found on the internet or read in a book. Sure you can get the general idea down but really understanding it is more of a hands on thing. I learn more every time I go, and as dumb as this sounds I seem to pick up on more things going on. Granted at certain places I know where certain "entities" usualy are but then again their presence becomes more recognizable.

As with the whole the ghosts/demons pick you thing... I agree and disagree. For example, I went to my place in Canton last Thursday. I took two of my female friends with me they had never been somewhere haunted before and threw some gas in my tank so I took them there. Well, when we first got there, it seemed as if it might be a boring night. Both of the girls were freaked out a little bit because of how creepy the place is but never saw anything really or heard much of anything. Well they both wanted to see something so we went further back where it starts getting creepier or worse where you tend to see things. Walking back to one of the "Barriers" (only few will understand) both girls completely froze white face. Both saw the exact same thing, a man in a hooded robe or sweatshirt, hood over his blank face, holding a candle starring at both of them.
So in that part I agree, "Candleman" wanted to find the girls for whatever reason.
I did not see him for atleast 20 seconds, both girls saying he was still there only as if he were pacing back and forth to show movement. I spotted him by the very light glow of the candle or whatever it may be and it did seem as if he were starring directly at the girls.

However, going past this "Barrier" with a group of friends we have all been run off as a group. 7 people got run off. I had that "something is following us" thing going on and whatever made the noise, was A no less that 8-10 feet away and B not even possible something human or animal created that noise. Much as the noise you would imagine if a child got his soul forcfully ripped out of his body. Quite freaky. So in that case, the "entity" did not choose someone, he went after all of us. Apparently he/she did not like where we were.

So in a nut shell, I am up and down about getting picked out.

[Brick]

As I am terrible at quoting everyone and replying to everyone....

Knowledge of this stuff really cannot be found on the internet or read in a book. Sure you can get the general idea down but really understanding it is more of a hands on thing. I learn more every time I go, and as dumb as this sounds I seem to pick up on more things going on. Granted at certain places I know where certain "entities" usualy are but then again their presence becomes more recognizable.

As with the whole the ghosts/demons pick you thing... I agree and disagree. For example, I went to my place in Canton last Thursday. I took two of my female friends with me they had never been somewhere haunted before and threw some gas in my tank so I took them there. Well, when we first got there, it seemed as if it might be a boring night. Both of the girls were freaked out a little bit because of how creepy the place is but never saw anything really or heard much of anything. Well they both wanted to see something so we went further back where it starts getting creepier or worse where you tend to see things. Walking back to one of the "Barriers" (only few will understand) both girls completely froze white face. Both saw the exact same thing, a man in a hooded robe or sweatshirt, hood over his blank face, holding a candle starring at both of them.
So in that part I agree, "Candleman" wanted to find the girls for whatever reason.
I did not see him for atleast 20 seconds, both girls saying he was still there only as if he were pacing back and forth to show movement. I spotted him by the very light glow of the candle or whatever it may be and it did seem as if he were starring directly at the girls.

However, going past this "Barrier" with a group of friends we have all been run off as a group. 7 people got run off. I had that "something is following us" thing going on and whatever made the noise, was A no less that 8-10 feet away and B not even possible something human or animal created that noise. Much as the noise you would imagine if a child got his soul forcfully ripped out of his body. Quite freaky. So in that case, the "entity" did not choose someone, he went after all of us. Apparently he/she did not like where we were.

So in a nut shell, I am up and down about getting picked out.

again...where is this place exactly? PM if you don't want to post it for everyone and the cops to see. But, I've been to everywhere I know of around Canton and am not sure where you're talking about.